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Cosmic Turf War: You'll never see the Old Testament the same again

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A bump with a summary


The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

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The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

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Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.
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Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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Well!

Thanks to all who watched the house while I was out. We had a nice evening.

Thanks also for prayers of protection, which I also prayed for you. I am confident that though the hounds of hell snarl and hiss, nothing they "choose" will come to pass but only reflect back to them multiplied. An undeserved curse has no effect or power. And what God decrees to be proclaimed cannot be silenced. We have power they cannot fathom, and security they will never know, because we glorify not ourselves but our Savior, who is forever blessed!

Jesus is at the door!
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IT WILL NOT SAVE YOU FOOL!!!!!

I have chosen one. Is it you?

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Eat your words, demon. Everything you spit out will go down your own miserable throat. The Lion of Judah will rip you apart.
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Well!

Thanks to all who watched the house while I was out. We had a nice evening.

Thanks also for prayers of protection, which I also prayed for you. I am confident that though the hounds of hell snarl and hiss, nothing they "choose" will come to pass but only reflect back to them multiplied. An undeserved curse has no effect or power. And what God decrees to be proclaimed cannot be silenced. We have power they cannot fathom, and security they will never know, because we glorify not ourselves but our Savior, who is forever blessed!

Jesus is at the door!
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Welcome Back :-) Glad to hear you had a good evening and I hope you had a chance to rest a bit as well.

Our Sister from NewYork has me looking into Jonathan's web site but I've been a bit distracted. Plan on watching a couple of his video's tonigt as I go to bed.

It would appear this topic needs Bumped yet again as I see yet another thread on the validity of the ancient alien program has found itself on the main page. I hope those reading there will come here as well with an open mind and heart and search for truth.

Back soon my Friend

God Bless
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Welcome Back :-) Glad to hear you had a good evening and I hope you had a chance to rest a bit as well.

Our Sister from NewYork has me looking into Jonathan's web site but I've been a bit distracted. Plan on watching a couple of his video's tonigt as I go to bed.

It would appear this topic needs Bumped yet again as I see yet another thread on the validity of the ancient alien program has found itself on the main page. I hope those reading there will come here as well with an open mind and heart and search for truth.

Back soon my Friend

God Bless
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Thank you once again, good friend. This outpouring of support is something I've never experienced in all my years online. I'm overwhelmed.

I'm also "movied-out" and will try and check out more videos tomorrow. Lots of great material out there.
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Agreed Friend. In these times we really need to stand for Jesus and those who share Truth. I'm saving the videos for my night viewing but will share any that I find that are on subject. It would appear there is so I hope to be able to share.

Now it's time for dinner and a bit of family time. I'll drop in later a bump again. :-)

God Bless
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Agreed Friend. In these times we really need to stand for Jesus and those who share Truth. I'm saving the videos for my night viewing but will share any that I find that are on subject. It would appear there is so I hope to be able to share.

Now it's time for dinner and a bit of family time. I'll drop in later a bump again. :-)

God Bless
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Thanks again. :-) Getting near bedtime here, so I'll see you tomorrow. hf
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Probably missed you K2. Have a good night Brother. See you tomorrow.

God Bless
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Probably missed you K2. Have a good night Brother. See you tomorrow.

God Bless
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Not quite yet, though I'll probably hit the sack within the hour.

I just took a quick look at that pro-AA thread, where you continue your courageous and irenic comments. What strikes me there, as is typical, is how unaware people are to their own "just so" beliefs, even as they belittle the same in others. We read in Prov. 18:17 that "the first to present their case always seems right, until they are cross-examined". How true that is! But even the most anti-Christian "enlightened" (means same as Illuminati, basically) people are steeped in the same kind of deliberate blindness to their own dogma.

They also mistreat people who merely disagree, as you so gently pointed out there. To disagree with an idea is not to attack the person. Yet here, clearly, it is the people being attacked, though they seem oblivious to what they're doing.

Two threads on the same topic, one in favor of the standard AA dogma and the other against, and one gets approval while the other gets demonized. This is to be expected of course, but the point is the glaring double standard on the part of the proponents of AA theory.

And, honestly, I don't think it's any coincidence that the other thread is active right now. They couldn't destroy this one, so they finally made one of their own. Now if only they'd be content to express their viewpoint and let us express ours, so that whoever is truly open-minded and undecided can read each one and make an informed choice.

Well, good friend, you have a great night as well, and be at peace; Jesus is very near and I am convinced that the battle is practically over. See you soon, one way or another! God bless.
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I came across this video lecture a few hours ago and just finished watching it. It's a 1-1/2 hour lecture on the Old Testament from Michael Heiser, someone I've never heard of before but who seems to know what he's talking about. He sheds such bright light on the texts as to blow away a lot of things that didn't quite add up before or were hard to figure out. Subjects the lecture impacts include:

-- The Nephalim, the Watchers, and the Giants
-- What Jesus meant in Mat. 24 by "marrying and giving in marriage"
-- The REAL reason God had Israel wipe entire nations off the map, including children and animals

I strongly urge you to give this video priority over all the crap people usually watch, as it debunks people like Sitchin and beliefs like Gnosticism, which the lecturer calls "the theology of the Watchers".


 Quoting: Keep2theCode

I've heard Heiser's teachings. He's a Sitchen debunker. I agree with some of what he says, but then I disagree with him too. I suggest you search out the matter for yourself. Use your search engine. Look up and read what has actually been deciphered from the Sumerian's. Study the Hebrew translations of the scriptures. Read Enoch. Read JOB. Personally, I don't fully trust Sitchen. His interpretations are just that...his interpretations. When you read the writings they actually have, you'll see how some have added there own meanings to fill in the missing "pages". Don't believe what any one person tells you. Use your brain...do your own research. Time will tell.
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I've heard Heiser's teachings. He's a Sitchen debunker. I agree with some of what he says, but then I disagree with him too. I suggest you search out the matter for yourself. Use your search engine. Look up and read what has actually been deciphered from the Sumerian's. Study the Hebrew translations of the scriptures. Read Enoch. Read JOB. Personally, I don't fully trust Sitchen. His interpretations are just that...his interpretations. When you read the writings they actually have, you'll see how some have added there own meanings to fill in the missing "pages". Don't believe what any one person tells you. Use your brain...do your own research. Time will tell.
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Excellent advice on any topic. This has been my lifelong habit, and the reason I learned Greek just so I could see what the NT actually said.

But another thing I learned is that one must also be adept at grammar and logic, or even the best linguist or historian can misinterpret a text. Much of what Christians disagree about concerning the Bible is due to bad logic or misunderstanding of grammatical rules.
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Is this the post that deals with fractals?


Here are some fractal facts

A fractal is a mathematical set that has a fractal dimension that usually exceeds its topological dimension[1] and may fall between the integers.[2] Fractals are typically self-similar patterns, where self-similar means they are "the same from near as from far".[3] Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or, as illustrated in Figure 1, they may be nearly the same at different scales.[2][4][5][6] The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity per se to exclude trivial self-similarity and include the idea of a detailed pattern repeating itself.[2]:166; 18[4][7]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]







Although mathematical fractals contain an infinite level of detail with 'real world' fractals this is not the case, for example you can magnify the view of a coastline and at first there will be major estuaries and larger bays. Further magnification will reveal smaller estuaries and bays then down to coves and inlets and finanlly individual rocks and pebbles. At some point further magnification causes the previously observed fractal structure to breakdown. Fractals in the natural world are subject to this sort of limit. However because they have fractal structure over a range of scales fractal techniques can be used to successfully model them.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]
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Friends, please pray for safety during the intense storm forming over the midwest US. A wide area could experience strong, tornado-force winds all afternoon.
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Stay safe sweetheart
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Stay safe sweetheart
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hf Thank you; by God's mercy, I pray that all of his people will be safe.
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Today I received a post from a fan!!


"LOL

Fractalman returns!

Fractalman,you have quite a following!!
Willyou be starting your own thread?
I AM interested in fractals and recursion systems.

LMFAO."





In response I say


Thank you fractal fans!
I have changed my name to "FRACTALMAN", but I am mysterious.I will turn up on posts unannounced,just like Batman.
I will post interesting fractal facts,then disappear like a ninja,and people will say,"who was that man?"
IT WAS FRACTALMAN!!
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Good morning K2. Hope you had a good night. Feel well rested myself :-).

Fell asleep last night watching one of the longerJonathan kleck videos and not ready to give my impressions on that one. Watched 3 10 minute videos of his this morning regarding the nwo and nephilim. His referring to the fallen angels es aliens troubles me but his perspective is deffinately Biblical.

I get the impression when he says alien he means fallen angels. I just don't like the term as it seems misleading. He goes into great detail of many topics and all I can say is I'm still processing. :-).

I have a pretty busy day today but will return and bump this asap. I see the thread has slipped to page 3. Busy morning on GLP. Didn't look to hard but didn't see the other aa thread. :-)

Have a good day and be back later

God Bless
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Good morning K2. Hope you had a good night. Feel well rested myself :-).

Fell asleep last night watching one of the longerJonathan kleck videos and not ready to give my impressions on that one. Watched 3 10 minute videos of his this morning regarding the nwo and nephilim. His referring to the fallen angels es aliens troubles me but his perspective is deffinately Biblical.

I get the impression when he says alien he means fallen angels. I just don't like the term as it seems misleading. He goes into great detail of many topics and all I can say is I'm still processing. :-).

I have a pretty busy day today but will return and bump this asap. I see the thread has slipped to page 3. Busy morning on GLP. Didn't look to hard but didn't see the other aa thread. :-)

Have a good day and be back later

God Bless
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Morning, RAG, good to see you again.

I've only had a few min. to look at Kleck vids, and I do enjoy the ones on folding US notes, as I've seen those before. I looked briefly on one about Obama's name meaning "lightning from heaven" in Hebrew, yet Jesus is believed to have spoken this in Aramaic or possibly Greek. So that seems shaky to me.

Yeah, while threads like this get 1-starred and red karma and trolls, threads on how to make coffee get 5-starred and red pinned. Go figure.

We're praying for protection now from the intense line of storms moving in to our area over the next few hours.

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Good morning K2. Hope you had a good night. Feel well rested myself :-).

Fell asleep last night watching one of the longerJonathan kleck videos and not ready to give my impressions on that one. Watched 3 10 minute videos of his this morning regarding the nwo and nephilim. His referring to the fallen angels es aliens troubles me but his perspective is deffinately Biblical.

I get the impression when he says alien he means fallen angels. I just don't like the term as it seems misleading. He goes into great detail of many topics and all I can say is I'm still processing. :-).

I have a pretty busy day today but will return and bump this asap. I see the thread has slipped to page 3. Busy morning on GLP. Didn't look to hard but didn't see the other aa thread. :-)

Have a good day and be back later

God Bless
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Morning, RAG, good to see you again.

I've only had a few min. to look at Kleck vids, and I do enjoy the ones on folding US notes, as I've seen those before. I looked briefly on one about Obama's name meaning "lightning from heaven" in Hebrew, yet Jesus is believed to have spoken this in Aramaic or possibly Greek. So that seems shaky to me.

Yeah, while threads like this get 1-starred and red karma and trolls, threads on how to make coffee get 5-starred and red pinned. Go figure.

We're praying for protection now from the intense line of storms moving in to our area over the next few hours.
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My Prayers are with you and yours K2. I have sisters in PA, IN, and IL. My Prayers are for everyone.

Be back later to post on topic but for now I'm focusing on everyone's safety.

God Bless
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My Prayers are with you and yours K2. I have sisters in PA, IN, and IL. My Prayers are for everyone.

Be back later to post on topic but for now I'm focusing on everyone's safety.

God Bless
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Prayers also for your loved ones. hf
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FRACTALMAN RETURNS!!!
THE NINJA OF THE INTERNET!!

OP ONLY GETS GREEN FOR REPORTING POSTS-HE'S A WHINY SNITCH WHO CRIES TO HIS MOMMY.
MOMMY! BAD PEOPLE ARE NOT AGREEING WITH ME! BWAAAAAAAA!!

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Here are some fractal facts

A fractal is a mathematical set that has a fractal dimension that usually exceeds its topological dimension[1] and may fall between the integers.[2] Fractals are typically self-similar patterns, where self-similar means they are "the same from near as from far".[3] Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or, as illustrated in Figure 1, they may be nearly the same at different scales.[2][4][5][6] The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity per se to exclude trivial self-similarity and include the idea of a detailed pattern repeating itself.[2]:166; 18[4][7]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Although mathematical fractals contain an infinite level of detail with 'real world' fractals this is not the case, for example you can magnify the view of a coastline and at first there will be major estuaries and larger bays. Further magnification will reveal smaller estuaries and bays then down to coves and inlets and finanlly individual rocks and pebbles. At some point further magnification causes the previously observed fractal structure to breakdown. Fractals in the natural world are subject to this sort of limit. However because they have fractal structure over a range of scales fractal techniques can be used to successfully model them.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]
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And whatever pathetic incantations the troll is posting won't help them or their defeated master. His future, like that of his deceived minions, is eternal torment, and well-deserved.
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Care to back up that pagan doctrine of 'eternal torment' with the Greek/Hebrew scripture?
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Can't do it, because it's not in there. The subject matter of this thread is important, but unfortunately the OP has turned off a lot of people with his/her attitude.
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And whatever pathetic incantations the troll is posting won't help them or their defeated master. His future, like that of his deceived minions, is eternal torment, and well-deserved.
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Care to back up that pagan doctrine of 'eternal torment' with the Greek/Hebrew scripture?
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Can't do it, because it's not in there. The subject matter of this thread is important, but unfortunately the OP has turned off a lot of people with his/her attitude.
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You're totally ignoring the hateful attitude of others... and the off-topic comments... and your own lousy attitude. People can call me Satan, openly derail the thread, continually mock and judge me, but I'm the one with the attitude, eh?

Have a nice day.
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I only visit this thread to look for fractalman.
Fractalman you are a funny tard,OP you are a bigger tard.
You preach but dont listen, you sneer at other opinions and you are hateful in your nature.
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

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The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

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Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

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Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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And whatever pathetic incantations the troll is posting won't help them or their defeated master. His future, like that of his deceived minions, is eternal torment, and well-deserved.
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Care to back up that pagan doctrine of 'eternal torment' with the Greek/Hebrew scripture?
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Can't do it, because it's not in there. The subject matter of this thread is important, but unfortunately the OP has turned off a lot of people with his/her attitude.
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You're totally ignoring the hateful attitude of others... and the off-topic comments... and your own lousy attitude. People can call me Satan, openly derail the thread, continually mock and judge me, but I'm the one with the attitude, eh?

Have a nice day.
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I rest my case...
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And whatever pathetic incantations the troll is posting won't help them or their defeated master. His future, like that of his deceived minions, is eternal torment, and well-deserved.
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Care to back up that pagan doctrine of 'eternal torment' with the Greek/Hebrew scripture?
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Can't do it, because it's not in there. The subject matter of this thread is important, but unfortunately the OP has turned off a lot of people with his/her attitude.
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You're totally ignoring the hateful attitude of others... and the off-topic comments... and your own lousy attitude. People can call me Satan, openly derail the thread, continually mock and judge me, but I'm the one with the attitude, eh?

Have a nice day.
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FRACTALMAN sees OP's bad attitude with his fractal super-powers!

Have some fractal facts OP!!

Limitations also effect the computer generation of fractals. Even though the mathematical processes used as the basis of calculation are capable of being magnified forever without a loss of detail, a calculator, computer or (heaven forbid!) pencil and paper are not. When an image is calculated on screen it is limited to the resolution of the monitor therefore this process only provides a representation of the fractal. You could magnify and recalculate so that a small region of the previous image is now displayed on the monitor as the new image. At least this will show levels of detail which were not previously apparent but nevertheless any particular render will only be a representation of the fractal at a particular scale.
Another feature of fractals related to self-similarity is 'fractal dimension'. Going back to coastlines, how long is the coastline of say, Britain? Unfortunately, there is no straightforward answer as it depends on the size of the ruler used to measure it. The smaller the ruler the more details can be measured and the larger the answer will be. Measurements for different ruler sizes can be used to calculate the 'fractal dimension'. A coastline will have a fractal dimension between 1 and 2, compared to the topological dimension of 1 that lines have. All fractals will have a fractal dimension greater than the topological dimension.
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I rest my case...
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I only visit this thread to look for fractalman.
Fractalman you are a funny tard,OP you are a bigger tard.
You preach but dont listen, you sneer at other opinions and you are hateful in your nature.
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Hello K2. Been a long day. Just jumped in to say hello and check on you. Hope all is well. Found a possible video to ad and will do so after I have watched the whole thing.

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