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Cosmic Turf War: You'll never see the Old Testament the same again

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Hello K2. Been a long day. Just jumped in to say hello and check on you. Hope all is well. Found a possible video to ad and will do so after I have watched the whole thing.

God Bless
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Hey buddy! God was merciful once again, as our area had none of the severe weather that could have developed. This isn't the first time I've gone to the weather maps and watched storms split in two and go around us. Of course, we all grieve over those people mostly in Illinois who have lost everything, some even their lives, and pray for quick healing and restoration. I have relatives still in danger areas but pray God's mercy on them as well.
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Glad to hear Brother. Indeed a terrible day for many out your way. 2 of my 3 sisters have faired well but the other is in PA and is expecting the storm tonight last I heard. My heart goes out to all of the people dealing with this.

Kind of seems callous to stay on topic but feel driven to stay focused at the same time

The video I'll be watching is titled Unholly Communion if I remember correctly. Faith baised for sure. I'll link to it before I signoff for the night.

For anyone that may be curious in regards to the back and forth between K2 and the others claiming he is being unkind..... hogwash. If your brave just look back a couple pages to find how evil some have been. Even to the point of invoking very ancient satanic curses in Latin. Heck, scared one poster right out of the thread.

As for you fractal man.....Thanks for the free bumps. Slightly annoying but use full in your own silly way. ;-)

God Bless All. Be safe out there
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Glad to hear Brother. Indeed a terrible day for many out your way. 2 of my 3 sisters have faired well but the other is in PA and is expecting the storm tonight last I heard. My heart goes out to all of the people dealing with this.
 Quoting: RAG 49148771

Looks to me on the weather map that the danger of tornadoes has largely dissipated for the northeast. I hope everyone's allright down in KY; they seem to get a lot of severe weather there.


Kind of seems callous to stay on topic but feel driven to stay focused at the same time

The video I'll be watching is titled Unholly Communion if I remember correctly. Faith baised for sure. I'll link to it before I signoff for the night.

For anyone that may be curious in regards to the back and forth between K2 and the others claiming he is being unkind..... hogwash. If your brave just look back a couple pages to find how evil some have been. Even to the point of invoking very ancient satanic curses in Latin. Heck, scared one poster right out of the thread.

As for you fractal man.....Thanks for the free bumps. Slightly annoying but use full in your own silly way. ;-)

God Bless All. Be safe out there
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No problem staying on topic, and not callous at all. As you well know, the main issue I have with thread derailments has been the stated intent of those who have done it. Talking about conditions such as severe weather that may affect people here is perfectly legitimate; talking about fractals or demanding to debate the existence of God are not.

Sounds like an interesting video, thanks in advance. I don't stay up as late on weeknights but will certainly see it by tomorrow.

Thank you once again for standing up for me; it's a rare thing these days. Even one of the attackers gleefully told me via red karma that other Christians really hate me. But yeah... how people can ignore the haters and then label my calling them out as a bad attitude on my part... that's bizarre. True about the fractal freak; I think s/he is getting lonely because I don't pay attention to them anymore. Ego must be suffering terribly.

God bless you too, my good and brave friend. hf

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Hello K2. Been a long day. Just jumped in to say hello and check on you. Hope all is well. Found a possible video to ad and will do so after I have watched the whole thing.

God Bless
 Quoting: RAG 49148771


Hey buddy! God was merciful once again, as our area had none of the severe weather that could have developed. This isn't the first time I've gone to the weather maps and watched storms split in two and go around us. Of course, we all grieve over those people mostly in Illinois who have lost everything, some even their lives, and pray for quick healing and restoration. I have relatives still in danger areas but pray God's mercy on them as well.
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unfortunately, the erratic weather, as well as the chaotic behavior of people worldwid is part of the endgame scenario...

it will become even more so in the days to come... nothing anyone can do, except observe until this chapter of the game closes, and we move on to where we are suppose to be...
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unfortunately, the erratic weather, as well as the chaotic behavior of people worldwid is part of the endgame scenario...

it will become even more so in the days to come... nothing anyone can do, except observe until this chapter of the game closes, and we move on to where we are suppose to be...
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That's one thing we can agree on. There is much we cannot control, and thus much we must trust God to handle.
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unfortunately, the erratic weather, as well as the chaotic behavior of people worldwid is part of the endgame scenario...

it will become even more so in the days to come... nothing anyone can do, except observe until this chapter of the game closes, and we move on to where we are suppose to be...
 Quoting: William 47652865


That's one thing we can agree on. There is much we cannot control, and thus much we must trust God to handle.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


trust your god to handle for you and for you alone...
at some point, we may meet, and have a good laugh at this game...
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Hello William

Like K2 I agree with you on the condition of the world and the direction it seems to be leading. I know you and I don't see eye to eye on the entirety of the subject but we do seem to agree on good will towards others.

Glad you stopped in :-). Hope you stick around

Good to hear the storms are calming down K2. Still keeping the Prayers going for everyone.

Gona check a couple other threads then start watching that video. If I don't fall asleep I'll jump back in and put up the link :-)

God Bless
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Hello William

Like K2 I agree with you on the condition of the world and the direction it seems to be leading. I know you and I don't see eye to eye on the entirety of the subject but we do seem to agree on good will towards others.

Glad you stopped in :-). Hope you stick around

Good to hear the storms are calming down K2. Still keeping the Prayers going for everyone.

Gona check a couple other threads then start watching that video. If I don't fall asleep I'll jump back in and put up the link :-)

God Bless
 Quoting: RAG 49148771


certainly, i have no ill will towards others... everyone is playing the part, they need to play at this time... it cannot be any other way...
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Starting to listen a second time, and so far the point to add is that the speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Please explain this verse:

Genesis 3:20
21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


I think it goes without saying that "all the living" means human beings, as opposed to animals or any other non-humans. She is the first mother.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


and Cain went into the land of nod and took to himself a wife
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and Cain went into the land of nod and took to himself a wife
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Do you have a question?

If it's "Where did Cain get his wife", remember that the Bible did not record every single birth and name every single child Adam and Eve had. If there was a "land of Nod", there had to have been enough time for them to "multiply" as God said when he first created them. So there is no need for a pre-Adamic race to account for this, or a "gap theory" of subhumans, or anything else.

Next time, please add comment when you cite a verse.
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MOMMY! BAD PEOPLE ARE NOT AGREEING WITH ME! BWAAAAAAAA!!






Here are some very interesting fractal facts


A fractal is a mathematical set that has a fractal dimension that usually exceeds its topological dimension[1] and may fall between the integers.[2] Fractals are typically self-similar patterns, where self-similar means they are "the same from near as from far".[3] Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or, as illustrated in Figure 1, they may be nearly the same at different scales.[2][4][5][6] The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity per se to exclude trivial self-similarity and include the idea of a detailed pattern repeating itself.[2]:166; 18[4][7]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


THATS FASCINATING FRACTALMAN!!


Although mathematical fractals contain an infinite level of detail with 'real world' fractals this is not the case, for example you can magnify the view of a coastline and at first there will be major estuaries and larger bays. Further magnification will reveal smaller estuaries and bays then down to coves and inlets and finanlly individual rocks and pebbles. At some point further magnification causes the previously observed fractal structure to breakdown. Fractals in the natural world are subject to this sort of limit. However because they have fractal structure over a range of scales fractal techniques can be used to successfully model them.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]


THAT HAS BLOWN MY MIND FRACTALMAN!!


So fractals prove there is no God? WOW!!!!!!
FEAR NOT FRACTAL FANS I WILL RETURN
STAY TUNED FOR MORE FRACTAL FACTS!!!
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

============================================================



The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

============================================================



Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

============================================================



Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.

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MOMMY! BAD PEOPLE ARE NOT AGREEING WITH ME! BWAAAAAAAA!!









Here are some very interesting fractal facts






A fractal is a mathematical set that has a fractal dimension that usually exceeds its topological dimension[1] and may fall between the integers.[2] Fractals are typically self-similar patterns, where self-similar means they are "the same from near as from far".[3] Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or, as illustrated in Figure 1, they may be nearly the same at different scales.[2][4][5][6] The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity per se to exclude trivial self-similarity and include the idea of a detailed pattern repeating itself.[2]:166; 18[4][7]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]




THATS FASCINATING FRACTALMAN!!





Although mathematical fractals contain an infinite level of detail with 'real world' fractals this is not the case, for example you can magnify the view of a coastline and at first there will be major estuaries and larger bays. Further magnification will reveal smaller estuaries and bays then down to coves and inlets and finanlly individual rocks and pebbles. At some point further magnification causes the previously observed fractal structure to breakdown. Fractals in the natural world are subject to this sort of limit. However because they have fractal structure over a range of scales fractal techniques can be used to successfully model them.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]




THAT HAS BLOWN MY MIND FRACTALMAN!!





So fractals prove there is no God? WOW!!!!!!










FEAR NOT FRACTAL FANS I WILL RETURN
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

============================================================



The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

============================================================



Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

============================================================



Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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OP ONLY GETS GREEN FOR REPORTING POSTS-HE'S A WHINY SNITCH WHO CRIES TO HIS MOMMY.

MOMMY! BAD PEOPLE ARE NOT AGREEING WITH ME! BWAAAAAAAA!!






Here are some very interesting fractal facts


A fractal is a mathematical set that has a fractal dimension that usually exceeds its topological dimension[1] and may fall between the integers.[2] Fractals are typically self-similar patterns, where self-similar means they are "the same from near as from far".[3] Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or, as illustrated in Figure 1, they may be nearly the same at different scales.[2][4][5][6] The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity per se to exclude trivial self-similarity and include the idea of a detailed pattern repeating itself.[2]:166; 18[4][7]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


THATS FASCINATING FRACTALMAN!!


Although mathematical fractals contain an infinite level of detail with 'real world' fractals this is not the case, for example you can magnify the view of a coastline and at first there will be major estuaries and larger bays. Further magnification will reveal smaller estuaries and bays then down to coves and inlets and finanlly individual rocks and pebbles. At some point further magnification causes the previously observed fractal structure to breakdown. Fractals in the natural world are subject to this sort of limit. However because they have fractal structure over a range of scales fractal techniques can be used to successfully model them.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]


THAT HAS BLOWN MY MIND FRACTALMAN!!


So fractals prove there is no God? WOW!!!!!!
FEAR NOT FRACTAL FANS I WILL RETURN
STAY TUNED FOR MORE FRACTAL FACTS!!!
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

============================================================



The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

============================================================



Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

============================================================



Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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Keep2thecode- I love fractalman,he/she has totally derailed your thread.
I have read some of your responses to posters and you judge far too easily.You seem to have a lot of red Karma too. I see you also keep reporting people for abusive posts,why?
Its very funny.I feel a bit sorry for you but not much due to your petty attitude.
I LOVE fractalman and his fractal-facts.
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

============================================================



The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

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Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

============================================================



Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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Keep2thecode- I love fractalman,he/she has totally derailed your thread.
I have read some of your responses to posters and you judge far too easily.You seem to have a lot of red Karma too. I see you also keep reporting people for abusive posts,why?
Its very funny.I feel a bit sorry for you but not much due to your petty attitude.
I LOVE fractalman and his fractal-facts.
LMFAO
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FRACTALMAN thanks you for your kind words sir and wishes you a good morning.

Here are a few NEW fractal facts to digest with your breakfast!!




Ever wondered what fractals are? Were you puzzled when your friends talk about fractals and felt stupid to ask them? Well don't worry, you're in the right place! Read about the basics of fractals and why they exist. Find out why some of the fractals are so beautiful and colourful and more...!


Fractals can be seen in many places in the world. They particularly interest us because of the shapes produced, the colours used to fill in these shapes and at times, the basic and minor variations on the algorithm (see below to see why algorithms are involved in some fractals).
It should be noted that fractal images are not designed in advance. The shapes come out naturally as the results of simple (mathematical) processes. Slight variations of this process can create different fractals. Some examples of fractal images we see in reality and in our environment includes coastlines, mountains, waves and bushes.
[link to pages.infinit.net]


Okay, let’s start with the basics: what the hell are fractals?
Hold your breath for a moment. They’re basically graphs which, however much you zoom in, will always have a complex pattern. A curve for example will turn into a straight line if you zoom in enough but these things will stay curvy. You can also divide a fractal into lots of parts and each of these will look roughly like the whole thing.
[link to www.null-hypothesis.co.uk]




I will post interesting fractal facts,then disappear like a ninja,and people will say,"who was that man?"









IT WAS FRACTALMAN!!
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Video notes:

The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

============================================================



The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

============================================================



Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.

============================================================



Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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WHAT THE HELL ?
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To fractalman
You are totally nuts!!!
Welcome to GLP and the madhouse.What would you like to discuss?
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To fractalman
You are totally nuts!!!
Welcome to GLP and the madhouse.What would you like to discuss?
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FRACTALMAN loves to discuss fractal-facts but is willing to discuss anything.What would you like to discuss?
You must have LOTS of interesting facts to post (this is the only requirement).
Unlike OP,I listen to other posters opinions and am not obsessed with jeering at other posters.
Please post.



































I will post interesting fractal facts,then disappear like a ninja,and people will say,"who was that man?"


IT WAS FRACTALMAN!!
I lolled again
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Fractalman, what are your views on aliens pretending to be gods?








I am not sure.








Thoughts anyone?
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Hello fractalman.
I lolled also. I am at work but can you post facts about god being an alien,I am very interested also.
Love this thread.
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Hello fractalman.
I lolled also. I am at work but can you post facts about god being an alien,I am very interested also.
Love this thread.
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Hello fractal fans!

FRACTALMAN loves to hear from his fans and appreciates your kind comments.
I shall research the question,"Was God an alien?"
I shall return later and post.




Remember fractals are FUN.They are fractal-tastic!!!


Okay, let’s start with the basics: what the hell are fractals?

Hold your breath for a moment. They’re basically graphs which, however much you zoom in, will always have a complex pattern. A curve for example will turn into a straight line if you zoom in enough but these things will stay curvy. You can also divide a fractal into lots of parts and each of these will look roughly like the whole thing.
[link to www.null-hypothesis.co.uk]





WOW!






























I will post interesting fractal facts,then disappear like a ninja,and people will say,"who was that man?"


IT WAS FRACTALMAN!!
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LOL
I only come here to see you fractalman.You are the funniest poster on this thread.Luv you.Please posts on on Gods aliens.I too am very interested to hear your views.
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LOL
I only come here to see you fractalman.You are the funniest poster on this thread.Luv you.Please posts on on Gods aliens.I too am very interested to hear your views.
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FRACTALMAN loves to hear from fans.It boosts FRACTALMAN's super-hero powers!!







I will return with theories regarding "Is God an alien",within the next 24 hrs (or maybe the next hour.Who know?)












Thank you for your continued support and may the power of the fractal be with you. Safe journey fractal-fans!!!!!
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OP
Everyone is watching this thread.
You are a one star hero!
You have been totally bitch-slapped.
How does it feel?
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I also see your trying to push your other thread up the ratings.
You should be banned from doing this.

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