Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,712 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,495,833
Pageviews Today: 2,478,765Threads Today: 925Posts Today: 16,805
11:54 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26891224
United States
11/13/2013 05:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Meditation. Meditation. Meditation.
:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49359831


Yes. Meditation is what you do with the stone of the philosopher, but the cat is not out of the bag because in that context it could still be some sort of drug, a real stone to be smoked or ingested, but as i have been alluding to that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376



Being conscious while meditating/dreaming?
 Quoting: Laurent 44292486


Well that is something that will occur but is not the point of the stone. I will soon share, in bold, my "answer" as promised.

When one reaches a proper state of meditation their body will be asleep but the mind is always on, one will become aware that it never shuts off. It is uncomfortable at first to to expectations of sleep but the waking state becomes normal, as if the body and mind both had healthful rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


I know of this state of mind! It's the precursor to OBE/Astral projections/etc
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49882486
Estonia
11/13/2013 05:07 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
when u say that philosophers stone is black maybe the answer is : afroamerican?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:07 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


Physical eyes. What are they doing? You move the imaginary stone away from you, then closer, what do your eyes do? What must they do in order to see it clearly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


Focus
 Quoting: Laurent 44292486


By crossing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49359831


And you know when people do that? What are they doing crossing their eyes? The word has been used once in this thread already, again will help tie this all together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


making your two eyes into one?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
gosh OP

u just watched kubrick and now you give riddles?
monolith means there a symbol of alien presence that interrupted human evolution. its a symbol that we were "helped", that we were genetically manipulated.

also as u see monolith later in a movie, where it kills astronauts due to its higher vibration, is a reference what will happen when one tries to research something he doesnt understand or not ready for. as kid is playing with matches. something not to be touched by our scientific knowledge.

in the end we will see monolith again. its in the room where time dissapeares. its the answer that there is no time and there is no room really.

see it as a symbol of divine presence. see it as something you are not ready to comprehend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


Genetic modification of life on earth is a theory i could ascribe to or not and would not make a difference. But as for your description of the monolith being something we do not understand, you are very correct, if we attempt to meditate and are not prepared, as i mentioned, i am not an expert in what can happen then. Think, could it possibly be that the "ape" became entranced? I do not ascribe to the "ape-to-man" theory of evolution either but according to the Vedic texts there were monkey-men and "Haruman" was real and i accept that. It might have been experimental and not evolution, therefore i can personally accept it, although again it does not matter one's opinions, only truth which never fades.
Could it also be Bowman, who was deep in space, alone, also entered a trance, focusing on the philosopher's stone (monolith) of the mind?

You have not allowed me to explain what the philosopher's stone (monolith) is before coming to conclusions about what i think!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49763587
United States
11/13/2013 05:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Let me take a swing O.P and not trying to offend anyone here so don't be bashing on me.

Would your P.S happen to be Jesus Christ?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49882486
Estonia
11/13/2013 05:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
i think that u saying that stone is black due to that u watched kubricks 2001 and monolith was there black, i think that is huge misconception. it could have been pink there. or with zebra tripes. or with navyblue polka dots.

it doesnt matter what it looks like. it matters what it does.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
gosh OP

u just watched kubrick and now you give riddles?
monolith means there a symbol of alien presence that interrupted human evolution. its a symbol that we were "helped", that we were genetically manipulated.

also as u see monolith later in a movie, where it kills astronauts due to its higher vibration, is a reference what will happen when one tries to research something he doesnt understand or not ready for. as kid is playing with matches. something not to be touched by our scientific knowledge.

in the end we will see monolith again. its in the room where time dissapeares. its the answer that there is no time and there is no room really.

see it as a symbol of divine presence. see it as something you are not ready to comprehend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


I had similar feelings about the movie, especially when the characters were on the moon and tried to interact with the monolith. I though it was profound and you phrased it well, but perhaps the monolith only reflected the energy that came towards it thus hurting the people. Curiosity could be of a desire to understand but from which point of intentions - good or bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26891224


Good question.
Also, i did not mention the monolith on the moon scene. In that case i have no explanation as it being of internal allegory as external object, other than it is all symbolic either way.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
What are you doing to pretend something is there when it is not? You have to _____.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376



Are all the blanks supposed to be imagine? imagination?


please spill the beans already
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37629797


No. You need to use your imagination to fill in the blanks. I am making it a bit hard so that those who want to know will remember.

Imagine living 2k years ago and someone says, "There is a man, his name is Jesus, he does many miracles and claims to be one with God", what would you think? What if the same happened today? Some people hear and they just ignore, someone people care, some don't. Now if someone took the time to explain the many things this Jesus had done, and finally mentioning his name and that he "is alive today" and "you can meet him", then that may add some gravity to the subject rather than just saying, "There is a man named Jesus who performs many miracles, it's true".

So i am making a kind of game and story out of truth. No one wants to read a thread "1+1" and the OP is "2". Such is truth but it is so common that it is useless. The philosopher's stone is so uncommon that is is also useless. However, if i put it into context then it can be seen as the true power that is has imparted to many enlightened beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


The philosopher's stone is Christ, He turns water into wine and lead into gold. It's a spiritual concept
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


Also correct. Jesus did say he is the Truth, the Way, and the Life!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
What are you doing to pretend something is there when it is not? You have to _____.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376



Are all the blanks supposed to be imagine? imagination?


please spill the beans already
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37629797


No. You need to use your imagination to fill in the blanks. I am making it a bit hard so that those who want to know will remember.

Imagine living 2k years ago and someone says, "There is a man, his name is Jesus, he does many miracles and claims to be one with God", what would you think? What if the same happened today? Some people hear and they just ignore, someone people care, some don't. Now if someone took the time to explain the many things this Jesus had done, and finally mentioning his name and that he "is alive today" and "you can meet him", then that may add some gravity to the subject rather than just saying, "There is a man named Jesus who performs many miracles, it's true".

So i am making a kind of game and story out of truth. No one wants to read a thread "1+1" and the OP is "2". Such is truth but it is so common that it is useless. The philosopher's stone is so uncommon that is is also useless. However, if i put it into context then it can be seen as the true power that is has imparted to many enlightened beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


The philosopher's stone is Christ, He turns water into wine and lead into gold. It's a spiritual concept
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


yes but we become Christ when we take Gods heart and thoughts as Jesus...

and Jesus has given us all He received from the Father

but why are we talking like Jesus is not here,He is alive and present
furPete'sSake

User ID: 17439580
United States
11/13/2013 05:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
when u say that philosophers stone is black maybe the answer is : afroamerican?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


God's bride is black

Song of Solomon

I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

The bride, the church, is the one transformed through the stone, the Cornerstone, the Stone that was rejected, the Stone that will crush all men.
There's a transmutation involved. The ancients who knew nothing of Christ, nevertheless had esoteric knowledge of Him just because there is in mankind, a yearning and a quest for the spiritual.

the church is refined, gold from lead
"It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman)
Calm seas do not a sailor make,
Nor easy horses, a horseman.
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


why do people eat what is destroying them,because they dont like what they are and want to destroy it?

are we all unknowingly(or knowingly) executing Gods judgment on ourselves?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49899929


In a sense i would say yes. His "judgement" is more like a law, if you seek and desire ignorance instead of him, which is truth, then you will suffer yourself until you see the true way. When we accept the light and love and the righteous way then our suffering will cease. God does not willingly ever inflict suffering upon any being, God created and his creations are autonomous; it is not like God creates the grass after it is mowed, his creation abides by the laws he governed for them; primarily to multiply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


isnt it amazing how far away we are in this physical universe,yet our ideas and thoughts are so close to one another,you could almost say they are one the same,just expressed differently...hmm..i find that beautiful and fascinating at the same time

yes but everything you said still makes Jesus the way and the truth,yet we are not following it

what makes us so bound to our ego,do you think God has made it for our own good?

to see how our ego is nothing without the whole body and how we are never separate?

for example everything i do affects the world around me,so in a way i have a duty towards the world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


We make ourselves bound to our ego. God did not force us. We can trace everything back to being one with God, ego and all. God made this realm for our ego, that is for our own good!

You do have a duty towards the world and all beings, we should be "our brother's keeper", meaning we are responsible for the well-being of all. That is selfless and keeps the world balanced and people joyful, happy, content.

My quick story;
Before everything. God as a man. God decided to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God decides to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God turns around and sees himself looking back at himself. Then this "God" becomes confused, "Is that me or am i that"? Well now, God, the one true God, he only moved once and remained standing still, he never had desire to move again. It was the desire to move and literally step out in consciousness away from the one true God. God is all-knowing of himself so he was not worried. The ego which stepped out of God, because it desired to move more, it became unsure of itself, it was confused. For this expression of God did he create the universe that it may come back to realizing itself as one with the true God, and not need to worry or fear.
It could be explained better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


so God basically refuses to stay in a position as satan,and this reality is the result of that struggle?

what are your thoughts on this if i might ask
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1310161
Iceland
11/13/2013 05:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Please explain in plain terms your understanding of the philosophers stone and how that knowledge can benefit us.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
OP keep in mind Buddha himself wasnt a buddhist. he was a man like you or me. he never asked someone to follow him.
the thing that great knowledge is turned into monotheistic religion is last what he wanted. by obeying something you will give away your power. that is real agenda with every religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


I think you are wrong about religion being an agenda. I think you are right about where you are coming from in regards to religion being an agenda to take our power from us. It is a tool to bring about the good in us. If we fail to understand it that is due to our own ignorance, yet among many religions do many still become enlightened. Religion is but a stepping stone, it is derived from the truth of the enlightened masters and to such goodness the spirit of God, which dwells within us, is naturally attracted to himself, to truth, to goodness, to love.

Something to ponder: Could Jesus not be a Christian? Could Buddha not be a Buddhist? These adjectives entail the qualities of those beings. It is like saying Jesus is not Godly or not Godlike, while he is all the qualities of God. I think it is ok to say Jesus was Christian, or Christ-like, when he himself was Christ, the Messiah, and Buddha Buddhist, like the Buddha that is he.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26891224
United States
11/13/2013 05:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
i think that u saying that stone is black due to that u watched kubricks 2001 and monolith was there black, i think that is huge misconception. it could have been pink there. or with zebra tripes. or with navyblue polka dots.

it doesnt matter what it looks like. it matters what it does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


Perhaps however I doubt thats the main idea there. If you close your eyes to think, what color would all the thoughts be as opposed to their reality? (paradoxical in nature) for example a blind-folded person asked to describe something wont be as accurate as if he had full perception however he wouldnt be wrong with his descriptions because he's blind-folded and limited to that vs. the un-veiled notion.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49882486
Estonia
11/13/2013 05:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Could it also be Bowman, who was deep in space, alone, also entered a trance, focusing on the philosopher's stone (monolith) of the mind?

remember when bowman is alone in rocket and flies through the colourful dimensions?

Thats where he enters into astral realm. ive seen it like that too, ive been there too.

ok lets take this movie into pieces.
Symbolically:

Space rocket is nothing more than a vessel, the body of human being.
Bowman is SOUL not knowing yet that he is HIS true self.
HAL is MIND that tries to control everything. therefore its artificial and here i see Kubricks hidden message that our mind is genetically modified. think about junk-dna, do research about it - we were modified by some alien agenda.
MIND (HAL) tries to kill Bowman to get absolute control, but Bowman wins. he turns off his mind.
After that he can enter into astral to feel the true answers which is very difficult to describe.

its a story of how to turn off ur mind to see the truth.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


Focus
 Quoting: Laurent 44292486


By crossing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49359831


And you know when people do that? What are they doing crossing their eyes? The word has been used once in this thread already, again will help tie this all together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


making your two eyes into one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


Meditation. Those in a a state of meditation focus their eyes and when that happens, when they cross their eyes, between the eyes forms a sort of candle-flame shape as one can see when their eyes are open and crossed.. But "to cross the eyes" is not the point. If i say that to you you will cross your eyes when the point is your eyes WILL be crossed, not cross your eyes!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Let me take a swing O.P and not trying to offend anyone here so don't be bashing on me.

Would your P.S happen to be Jesus Christ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49763587


No, but as i mentioned (catching up to replies), it does fit. Jesus is God and God and Jesus are truth, however Jesus can transmute ignorance into truth but he will not bend anyone's will. The most God will do is literally guide the user into proper meditation, but all his subsequent thoughts, movements and desires are his own choice.
Shadow Beam

User ID: 49895380
New Zealand
11/13/2013 05:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
lol
fantasy

the P.S IS a magicmushroom
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26891224
United States
11/13/2013 05:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
OP keep in mind Buddha himself wasnt a buddhist. he was a man like you or me. he never asked someone to follow him.
the thing that great knowledge is turned into monotheistic religion is last what he wanted. by obeying something you will give away your power. that is real agenda with every religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


I think you are wrong about religion being an agenda. I think you are right about where you are coming from in regards to religion being an agenda to take our power from us. It is a tool to bring about the good in us. If we fail to understand it that is due to our own ignorance, yet among many religions do many still become enlightened. Religion is but a stepping stone, it is derived from the truth of the enlightened masters and to such goodness the spirit of God, which dwells within us, is naturally attracted to himself, to truth, to goodness, to love.

Something to ponder: Could Jesus not be a Christian? Could Buddha not be a Buddhist? These adjectives entail the qualities of those beings. It is like saying Jesus is not Godly or not Godlike, while he is all the qualities of God. I think it is ok to say Jesus was Christian, or Christ-like, when he himself was Christ, the Messiah, and Buddha Buddhist, like the Buddha that is he.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376



Those are attributes that were placed upon him, just as u mentioned near the start of this thread about Peter being the rock upon which Jesus built.

Matthew 10:16. King James Version (KJV). 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
i think that u saying that stone is black due to that u watched kubricks 2001 and monolith was there black, i think that is huge misconception. it could have been pink there. or with zebra tripes. or with navyblue polka dots.

it doesnt matter what it looks like. it matters what it does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


"Kubrick's Odyssey", not "2001: A Space Oddyseey"
"Kubricks' Odyssey" is a documentary about Kubrick.

You are right it does not matter what it looks like, but in the context of conveying a specific idea, in this context, it does matter.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26891224
United States
11/13/2013 05:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Could it also be Bowman, who was deep in space, alone, also entered a trance, focusing on the philosopher's stone (monolith) of the mind?

remember when bowman is alone in rocket and flies through the colourful dimensions?

Thats where he enters into astral realm. ive seen it like that too, ive been there too.

ok lets take this movie into pieces.
Symbolically:

Space rocket is nothing more than a vessel, the body of human being.
Bowman is SOUL not knowing yet that he is HIS true self.
HAL is MIND that tries to control everything. therefore its artificial and here i see Kubricks hidden message that our mind is genetically modified. think about junk-dna, do research about it - we were modified by some alien agenda.
MIND (HAL) tries to kill Bowman to get absolute control, but Bowman wins. he turns off his mind.
After that he can enter into astral to feel the true answers which is very difficult to describe.

its a story of how to turn off ur mind to see the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


Okay I get where u are coming from but here is my thing, prior to the mission even taking place Bowman's faith was already sealed it was just a matter of time and proper decision making for him to figure it all out - his survival vs HAL. Evidenced by the video he later finds in the compartment as he disables HAL.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...



Are all the blanks supposed to be imagine? imagination?


please spill the beans already
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37629797


No. You need to use your imagination to fill in the blanks. I am making it a bit hard so that those who want to know will remember.

Imagine living 2k years ago and someone says, "There is a man, his name is Jesus, he does many miracles and claims to be one with God", what would you think? What if the same happened today? Some people hear and they just ignore, someone people care, some don't. Now if someone took the time to explain the many things this Jesus had done, and finally mentioning his name and that he "is alive today" and "you can meet him", then that may add some gravity to the subject rather than just saying, "There is a man named Jesus who performs many miracles, it's true".

So i am making a kind of game and story out of truth. No one wants to read a thread "1+1" and the OP is "2". Such is truth but it is so common that it is useless. The philosopher's stone is so uncommon that is is also useless. However, if i put it into context then it can be seen as the true power that is has imparted to many enlightened beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


The philosopher's stone is Christ, He turns water into wine and lead into gold. It's a spiritual concept
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


yes but we become Christ when we take Gods heart and thoughts as Jesus...

and Jesus has given us all He received from the Father

but why are we talking like Jesus is not here,He is alive and present
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


You are correct. Jesus rid himself of his ego and realized himself as God - Avatar. He said we may do the same, and greater works we will do. BUT, HOW to get rid of the ego! That is what the philosopher's stone, among other factors of meditation, can help us to achieve.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
when u say that philosophers stone is black maybe the answer is : afroamerican?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


God's bride is black

Song of Solomon

I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

The bride, the church, is the one transformed through the stone, the Cornerstone, the Stone that was rejected, the Stone that will crush all men.
There's a transmutation involved. The ancients who knew nothing of Christ, nevertheless had esoteric knowledge of Him just because there is in mankind, a yearning and a quest for the spiritual.

the church is refined, gold from lead
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


The black has to do with meditation, the mind, as when eyes are closed, not of skin color. Good post.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


No. You need to use your imagination to fill in the blanks. I am making it a bit hard so that those who want to know will remember.

Imagine living 2k years ago and someone says, "There is a man, his name is Jesus, he does many miracles and claims to be one with God", what would you think? What if the same happened today? Some people hear and they just ignore, someone people care, some don't. Now if someone took the time to explain the many things this Jesus had done, and finally mentioning his name and that he "is alive today" and "you can meet him", then that may add some gravity to the subject rather than just saying, "There is a man named Jesus who performs many miracles, it's true".

So i am making a kind of game and story out of truth. No one wants to read a thread "1+1" and the OP is "2". Such is truth but it is so common that it is useless. The philosopher's stone is so uncommon that is is also useless. However, if i put it into context then it can be seen as the true power that is has imparted to many enlightened beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


The philosopher's stone is Christ, He turns water into wine and lead into gold. It's a spiritual concept
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


yes but we become Christ when we take Gods heart and thoughts as Jesus...

and Jesus has given us all He received from the Father

but why are we talking like Jesus is not here,He is alive and present
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


You are correct. Jesus rid himself of his ego and realized himself as God - Avatar. He said we may do the same, and greater works we will do. BUT, HOW to get rid of the ego! That is what the philosopher's stone, among other factors of meditation, can help us to achieve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


we must go to the beginning

become children again

reset

0.0.0.0
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


In a sense i would say yes. His "judgement" is more like a law, if you seek and desire ignorance instead of him, which is truth, then you will suffer yourself until you see the true way. When we accept the light and love and the righteous way then our suffering will cease. God does not willingly ever inflict suffering upon any being, God created and his creations are autonomous; it is not like God creates the grass after it is mowed, his creation abides by the laws he governed for them; primarily to multiply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


isnt it amazing how far away we are in this physical universe,yet our ideas and thoughts are so close to one another,you could almost say they are one the same,just expressed differently...hmm..i find that beautiful and fascinating at the same time

yes but everything you said still makes Jesus the way and the truth,yet we are not following it

what makes us so bound to our ego,do you think God has made it for our own good?

to see how our ego is nothing without the whole body and how we are never separate?

for example everything i do affects the world around me,so in a way i have a duty towards the world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


We make ourselves bound to our ego. God did not force us. We can trace everything back to being one with God, ego and all. God made this realm for our ego, that is for our own good!

You do have a duty towards the world and all beings, we should be "our brother's keeper", meaning we are responsible for the well-being of all. That is selfless and keeps the world balanced and people joyful, happy, content.

My quick story;
Before everything. God as a man. God decided to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God decides to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God turns around and sees himself looking back at himself. Then this "God" becomes confused, "Is that me or am i that"? Well now, God, the one true God, he only moved once and remained standing still, he never had desire to move again. It was the desire to move and literally step out in consciousness away from the one true God. God is all-knowing of himself so he was not worried. The ego which stepped out of God, because it desired to move more, it became unsure of itself, it was confused. For this expression of God did he create the universe that it may come back to realizing itself as one with the true God, and not need to worry or fear.
It could be explained better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


so God basically refuses to stay in a position as satan,and this reality is the result of that struggle?

what are your thoughts on this if i might ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


There is no struggle for God. I am unsure what you mean though, please clarify. But God is ultimate power, mercy, love, truth, there is no effort for God, not worry, no worthy adversary. The struggle is of one's own consciousness and therefore their derived ignorance through desire.

Buddha stated the source of all suffering is desire. This may refer to more than just physical desire but the desire of the spirit, the origin of the soul!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Please explain in plain terms your understanding of the philosophers stone and how that knowledge can benefit us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310161


What the "philosopher stone" is, as my truth and interpretation, and "answer":

The philosopher who desires truth as their rock, their foundation, their reality, will discover the useless of knowledge and they will meditate on truth. They will look into the empty void of their mind's eye and focus on the stone. The stone is symbolic of something that is real, but it is not an imaginary stone it is the GRAVITY of the stone that attracts the mind to that single point of a focused mind. Without the intent to focus on truth the mind is void or the thoughts run wild and the eyes follow. With determination, intention, focusing the eyes, the thoughts, the mind's eye on one single point that becomes as real as a rock, this brings the philosopher who desires truth into a state of proper meditation. The one who comes to this state of meditation finds truth, like Peter who came to know that Jesus is the son of God, therefore upon this stone, this rock, this foundation of truth will God, Jesus, build his kingdom. Until Jesus the occult, and ignorance, was being used to dominate souls, and even since, but now we know the foundation of truth among the facade of ignorance and wickedness that is the occult, and desire for sensory things, untruth.

There are, of course, many other gears, factors which play a role in proper meditation. The stone, the focal point of mind for the philosopher, the one who desires truth, is but one tool, symbol, allegory for finding God who is truth. However, without proper adherence to other rules/factors for proper meditation, well, i am no expert on the results.

Many occult allegories, tales and symbols refer to the state of meditation, the only place where one can discover and realize and become one with truth - inside them self.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


The philosopher's stone is Christ, He turns water into wine and lead into gold. It's a spiritual concept
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


yes but we become Christ when we take Gods heart and thoughts as Jesus...

and Jesus has given us all He received from the Father

but why are we talking like Jesus is not here,He is alive and present
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


You are correct. Jesus rid himself of his ego and realized himself as God - Avatar. He said we may do the same, and greater works we will do. BUT, HOW to get rid of the ego! That is what the philosopher's stone, among other factors of meditation, can help us to achieve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


we must go to the beginning

become children again

reset

0.0.0.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


but i lack understanding and i am encumbered by my own pride and sin

but i guess i will only die to be born again as a new being
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26891224
United States
11/13/2013 05:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 39011376
Netherlands
11/13/2013 05:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
i think that u saying that stone is black due to that u watched kubricks 2001 and monolith was there black, i think that is huge misconception. it could have been pink there. or with zebra tripes. or with navyblue polka dots.

it doesnt matter what it looks like. it matters what it does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49882486


Perhaps however I doubt thats the main idea there. If you close your eyes to think, what color would all the thoughts be as opposed to their reality? (paradoxical in nature) for example a blind-folded person asked to describe something wont be as accurate as if he had full perception however he wouldnt be wrong with his descriptions because he's blind-folded and limited to that vs. the un-veiled notion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26891224


Good.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49904438
Croatia
11/13/2013 05:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I know what the Philosopher's Stone is. Take some guesses, i'll provide clues.
...


isnt it amazing how far away we are in this physical universe,yet our ideas and thoughts are so close to one another,you could almost say they are one the same,just expressed differently...hmm..i find that beautiful and fascinating at the same time

yes but everything you said still makes Jesus the way and the truth,yet we are not following it

what makes us so bound to our ego,do you think God has made it for our own good?

to see how our ego is nothing without the whole body and how we are never separate?

for example everything i do affects the world around me,so in a way i have a duty towards the world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


We make ourselves bound to our ego. God did not force us. We can trace everything back to being one with God, ego and all. God made this realm for our ego, that is for our own good!

You do have a duty towards the world and all beings, we should be "our brother's keeper", meaning we are responsible for the well-being of all. That is selfless and keeps the world balanced and people joyful, happy, content.

My quick story;
Before everything. God as a man. God decided to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God decides to walk "over there". God walks over there. Then God turns around and sees himself looking back at himself. Then this "God" becomes confused, "Is that me or am i that"? Well now, God, the one true God, he only moved once and remained standing still, he never had desire to move again. It was the desire to move and literally step out in consciousness away from the one true God. God is all-knowing of himself so he was not worried. The ego which stepped out of God, because it desired to move more, it became unsure of itself, it was confused. For this expression of God did he create the universe that it may come back to realizing itself as one with the true God, and not need to worry or fear.
It could be explained better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


so God basically refuses to stay in a position as satan,and this reality is the result of that struggle?

what are your thoughts on this if i might ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49904438


There is no struggle for God. I am unsure what you mean though, please clarify. But God is ultimate power, mercy, love, truth, there is no effort for God, not worry, no worthy adversary. The struggle is of one's own consciousness and therefore their derived ignorance through desire.

Buddha stated the source of all suffering is desire. This may refer to more than just physical desire but the desire of the spirit, the origin of the soul!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39011376


God doesnt wants us to be satan and this state of ours is a result of that fight,
basically our collective struggle against our satan(ego)





GLP