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WHAT was the FORBIDDEN FRUIT?

 
eeerrr
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the forbidden fruit is .... sex, Eve's "no no place". It was forbidden cuz Adam's her flockin' brother! ( Eve was made from Adam's Rib ) .... The serphant or 'snaky' was Adam's ding dong .... They covered themselves after because seeing eachothers 'thingys is what tempted them in the first place ... they were shamed, naughty siblings who were banished from Eden.
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I believe the fruit symbolises sex.

Adam and Eve were told not to have sex, but Eve seduced Adam. - That was the 'forbidden' fruit.

The "snake" ? - Adam's pee pee

The punishment? - Eve got pregnant! .. And so the cycle started.

Did Adam/Eve have to commit incest though?
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Sex before maturity (before God's blessing) has resulted in our mutated species....Eve's relations with Lucifer prior to Adam sealed our doom (bringing death to mankind).
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rolleyes yeah, always blame the Woman, right ?! thwak


I say the forbidden fruit was ORGASM ~
that's why religion twists such a guilt trip into the human's head about sex is dirty, sex is a sin, don't enjoy sex...etc...

and good orgasming OPENS up portals between dimensions...the controlling creator gods, {"God"} couldn't very well have Humans being so free and open and gaining knowledge, so much harder to control the slaves that way !
<<< !! VIVE LA RESISTANCE !! >>>
AJ
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No blame....just facts....it was unavoidable with Lucifer's defection!!!!
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KNOWLEDGE!
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There are TWO trees of knowledge.

One is God, the "tree" of knowledge of Good, His fruit is Truth and Life.

The other is Satan, the "tree" of knowledge of Evil, his fruit is Lies and Death.

Adam (men) and Eve (women) had their memories of what they had done as spirit-beings in heaven (war in heaven - Rev. 18), wiped clean, so they (WE) could start anew.

They began to eat from the "tree" of knowledge of Good (God) and He (God) walked with them in the Garden, teaching them personally about Good.

Then Satan, the "tree" of knowledge of evil (opposite of live), took over (possessed) a serpent animal [this was allowed by God to test Adam (men) and Eve (women)] and began to deceive Eve (women) first.

Eve, as soon as she began to believe the lies that Satan told her, through this serpent that could "miraculously" speak, started to become human, as opposed to knowing she was a spirit-being CLOTHED with a human body.

That was the really big lie that Satan told Eve, and then Adam, and continues to tell Adams and Eves today - that we are ONLY human.

Continuing with what really happened... Eve (women) went in search of Adam (their men), having been instructed by Satan on what to do to become as "gods" (to become FULLY human really). And that was SEX.

Eve got Adam to have sex with her, and in doing so, they (beings of light) became their human bodies (i.e. their "awareness"/centre-of-being was transferred "outside" to the human body).

BECAUSE of this, their (human) eyes were "opened", and suddenly they "knew" they (now the human animal instead of the being of light) were NAKED, whereas before they KNEW they were NOT naked, because they believed and KNEW that they were not really human but a BEING OF LIGHT CLOTHED WITH A HUMAN BODY.

That is what Satan achieved. The fruit was his lies, he was the tree of knowledge of evil, and that is why Christ said:-

"Marvel not when I say ye must be BORN AGAIN" (become your spirit-being again instead of your human, so as to REVERSE the fall).

I hope this is of help. For more on this subject, which should be a real "eye-opener" (but this time the being of light's eyes hopefully) to those who have not yet read it, please read [link to i.am] .

Peace be with you all, Adams and Eves. And thank-You Father, and The Master, for helping me write this message. Please bless those who will read it, that they may understand. Amen.

Isaiah 33:19
Thou shalt NOT see a fierce people, [but] a people of a deeper speech (the TRUTH) than thou (if you are spiritually deaf & blind) canst perceive; of a stammering tongue, that thou (who believe you are only human) canst NOT understand.

yoda
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BUMP
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If you know what the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is. Then you will also know what the fruit of the tree of life is as well.
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The fruit was the Amanita Muscaria mushroom.


This has already been fully acknowledged




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[link to www.mythencyclopedia.com]

Yeah
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Esayjet once confiscated a banana I was eating enroute to Luton
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First of all, the snake mentioned in Genesis was also a dragon according to Apocalipsis. Linguist Michael Heiser is correct, the noun here is a bright interdimensional entity or SERAPHIM, not literal snake. In the book of Numbers 21:8,9, the episode about Moses' copper snake is also the mention of the serafim in hidden esoteric meaning. Genesis says the snake was condemned to crawl, that means there was a time when there was no crawling and it had feet. That's INTERDIMENSIONAL TRANSFORMATION OF THE DRAGON LIKE CHINESE DRAGONS. According to Isaiah 6:1-6 the seraphim had feet and hands. Compared with 14:29 y 30:6. The seraphim were snakes with 6 wings according to Judaism and it seems they are closer to God's throne than the cherubim or tetramoulon with 4 faces in a single head. It seems due to his arrogance Samael/Satan was diminushed in category and converted into a cherubim with animal features and the whole dense matrix changed as well. It's interesting there are ancient fossils of snakes with feet:
The Mayans , Incas and Egyptians used the internet of their time to gain 'knowledge' and that's why spiritism in Greek is connected with the word "pharmakya" meaning drugstore. Check their knowledge about DNA:

[link to groups.msn.com]

[link to groups.msn.com]

[link to groups.msn.com]

Wings like the ones of the seraphim are also found in chromossomes because our physical realm is a copied version of the spiritual and invisible, check the microelectrography:

[link to groups.msn.com]


Snake/dragon Samael, the hanashash seraphim was converted into Tetramoulon cherubim with 4 faces in a single head:

[link to fotolog.terra.com.ar]

Here we can see a depiction in the film The Ten Commandments where they used an actual Egyptian hieroglyph of something like a seraphim:

[link to fotolog.terra.com.ar]

Now, using hallucinogenic tree Eve's mind was altered. Don't believe me, that's what Paul said in 2 Corinthians 11:3 and verses later he said Satan disguises or uses a metamorphosis into light (the Greek word for light bearer here is phosphorus and metamorphosis is metaschematizo). Hence he knows all tricks of light in physical law, even the fact light does have their own antiphotons so to speak. If our universe is hologram, well we can say too much about this....hehehe! At the same time "God" confirms Satan was right because he admits the original couple adquired the knowledge of good and evil , compare Genesis 3:5 with verse 22. That opening of the "eyes" mentioned in verse 6, 7 had to do with hallucinogenic tree because opened the Udjat eye of knowlege and melatonin. The molecular symbiosis between those substances and endorphins or serotonin in the brain fit like a key to a lock. Yet, when we try to quadruplicate lifespan of a worm we use melatonin secrets? Nop! We use the genes of glicosis but in mammals we eliminate the sex thing. Ahaahhh! That's the key to understand why little by little the lifespan was diminushing as a consequence of the opening of the 3rd eye. Hence Satan said some TRUTH about becoming gods and knowledge. The lie was about having everlasting life! We lost the other tree access.
The Chinese ideograms say the same thing, the word 'covet' is a woman staring 2 trees and we know about the Tempter given a secret under trees in their language not importing information from Israel or Christian world but universal truth remembered in our colective memory. Genetic specialists using DNA mythochondrial, rewind history not millions of years ago but mere thousands and even doing so they use the uniformitarianism dogma that is expanding the time more than perhaps it was (yet that's another topic, right?). Wanna see Chinese ideograms? First look the Assyrian knowledge and learn something about aminoacid tryptophan:
[link to www.hiddenmeanings.com]
Then you can read and imagine God literally "opened" other "eyes" in several ocassions in specif areas of the brain, Numbers 22:31 and 2 Kings 6:17. Our literal eyes are prolongation of our brain and our brain works in visual areas exactly as when we are imagining something. KD
Jodido

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Knowledge.
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What a story:

GOD:
Now, kids, c'mere. I need to tell you something. Yeah, over here. Adam, leave it alone for a minute, Jeez!!

EVE:
Whazzup?

ADAM:
Yeah, 'sup?

GOD:
Well, I'm omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, etc. But I've got to go run some errands. I'll be gone for awhile and I won't be able to see you or know what you're doing while I'm gone. You understand? I WON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO WHILE I'M GONE. M'kay?

ADAM:
Mm'kay, Mr. God.

EVE:
M'kay.

GOD:
Knock it off. I know what you're doing.

EVE & ADAM:
(together, eyes downcast)
Sorry.

GOD:
Now have fun, but, ... Hey! Adam, you dumbass, I'm not finished yet! Get the hell back over here.

ADAM:
But you said have fun. I was just gonna' play with the, um, the uh, turtle, Yeah, the turtle.

GOD:
Just shut up and listen, for Christ's sake.
(pointing O/S)
See that tree over there?
(looking back at Adam & Eve)
LEAVE IT ALONE! Don't touch it. Hell, don't even go near it! Got it?

EVE & ADAM:
(together)
'Kay. See you later. Have a nice time.

GOD:
(to himself)
Yeah, time, right.


What a set up! What a nice god! What a fucking jerk!
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banana2 banana2 banana2
Inca=Chintial
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I was saying the Chinese ideograms say the same Biblical thing:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
The cherubim upon the ark of the covenant was not like we have seen in films, but these as Ezekiel 1 and 10 describe with detail:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
Now, there's SEX involved in the whole thing. The Hebrew word used in Genesis was "yadha" meaning intercourse or knowledge by experience which is what Jews have told us about Satan. The Nephilim were giant offspring as a result of the demons or cherub watchers that had contranatural sex with women of the earth. But who taught them in first place about the pleasure of this? That was the sin of the cherub if we understand Ezekiel 28. That's why he was expelled or cast out from house-mountain (pyramid or "ekur" in the language of Mesopotamia) of God. So the rebel cherub wanted to alter the creation. Hence he used the hallucinogenic tree as a medium to gain knowledge as ancient civilizations did. That was the internet or metamatrix Terence Mc Kenna, Huxley and Carlos Castañeda had been writing about. They were right and you should read Hancock's "Supernatural". Read this in first place now:
[link to fusionanomaly.net]
Just as above and below, the rules apply in seraphim shape and the DNA or even in our tree in the brain. DNA is like twisted snake made of suggar even with "wings' if you check the photo I set in my photolog and MSN page. That's like a dragon spitting "fire" (photons) or electromagnetic force in aquatic medium (the cell). But is so above as well. Not just a mere simple superficial "archetype" explanation.
When Satan had sex with the woman, all matrix was altered and perhaps he and the demons later on were trapped in hyperdimensional dungeons just like Peter and Judas told us as echo of Henoc appocrypha which is also repeated in all myths around the world. Seraphim and his rebel followers are trapped in suspended animation like those terrorists from Krypton in Superman first and second film. See you later alligator! banned2
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There are many reasons explaining why God was talking in plural when he said "let us make men into OUR image and likeness" and not used the word "barah" which is create in Hebrew, very different from "form" or "model" as we read in Genesis 1:26; 2:7, 18, 22. Garden of Eden had a single access that was guarded by the cherubim and we know about the house-mountain meaning. It seems Hanging Gardens of Babylon ...


(guarded by winged-bulls which is the real meaning of the name "cherubim" because besides having bull-lion-eagle-man features they do have bull or calf feet so they are more bull than the rest of animals, Ezekiel 1:7)


.....was a mimic of that Eden as a laboratory ziguratt. Since "god" only means "powerful" it was not the Almighty Creator who was walking down the garden at sunset at the breeze of the day (Genesis 3:8). So, people make fun or make irony because they ignore and only believed what their preciousssss church told them.
[link to petragrailtripod.com]
[link to petragrailtripod.com]
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Inca, quite interesting post there.
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Of course Gnosticism would like us to believe spilling semen in orgams was the real sin. But as I told you our physical dense and material world imitates or mimics the spiritual. I believe man doesn't accept death in spite of so many dead people during thousands of years and wants the secret of everlasting life in kloto genes or whatever else because something within is like alarm shouting it shouldn't be like that and recognizes we are trapped in this 3D cage. Before the access could have been given as a gift and not taken it by force as Devil said and tricked the woman. So, all temptative to open the eyes via one of the snakes within us (IDA or PINGALA) could mean mind disorder needing urgent help and not just because of the headaches, kundalini disease treatment;
[link to kundalini.se]
The gnostics will say -correctly- YHVH or Jehovah is a demon. Yet the moost known gnostic in South America using the name of Satan (Samael) would prefer to cal Almighty the Absolute Supreme Sun or IHVH. He's wrong. All those names are deception used by Satan himself. Someone will have to explain all these people they have been deceived and Almighty's name is nne of them but IEVE. If there was an impostor saying things or acting in His name, that's another thing.
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2 plums and a banana??
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ThanXs for your words, Askakido: Don't forget to read all the links I provided and read the Biblical text. We outta read in order to learn something deeper than the mob which is 99.9999% of mankind.
Pan was the satyr goat-man entity and PANdora was the woman (made of clay) who opened the box because she coveted it. PANdemonium followed as a consequence. Her husband's name was Epimetheus meaning "the one who thought after" (the consequence of the disobedience...like Adam). This reminds us Isaiah 34:14 saying in the deserts (where there are electromagnetic 'navels' of the world) dwells Lillith and demons with goat shape. Ahhah! Lillith is a name intimately hooked to Samael who was the cherubim Satan. Enoc appocrypha says the Watchers are trapped in Dudael desert as well. Watchers maybe because they don't sleep and have their bodies covered with eyes (not UFO interpretation), please watch the eyes in bodies and wings of these hybrid Apocaliptic beings which are half seraphim half cherubim:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]
Now,read and behold the ancient depictions here:
[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]
Leviticus 16 tells us about the goat sent to the desert (where Christ was tempted by a REAL Satan)as a holocaust to Azazel demon....Christians and easy critics, of course, know zero about this. anon
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the forbidden fruit is knowledge.
period.
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lol
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When the guy writes "2 plums and a banana??" we know that reader does have only bananas in his brain...or perhaps not even that! butt
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...and is not "only" knowledge, period just because the other guy wants it to be so, he needs to understand the Hebrew meaning and comparative religion and other things. The limits of his ignorance are the real "period".
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"And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shall surely die " - (Genesis 2: 16-17)

There has probably been more conjecture over this forbidden tree than anything in the Bible. From our childhood Bible stories on, we conceived this to be an apple. The next thing we learned was "an apple a day keeps the doctor away!" Why was the apple so good for us, but so bad for Adam? We can speculate from now on and never all agree on what this represented. The one thing we know for sure is: God told Adam not to do something - and God's commandment was broken. Eve was aware of God's commandment conceming this"tree," but gave in to sin at the instance of the serpent representing an adversary. She then convinced Adam to sin, also.

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sex
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There would be less speculation if the people would know something before saying whatever they have in their minds and studied nothing about the theme. In first place there is no mention of APPLE in the Bible but in Greek myth regarding Hesperides Garden and I won't explain here why was filled with GOLDEN apples but you can check Genesis Eden's garden in chapter 1:11, 12 or think about inverted name Opir which was Hevila's name and wonder in awe meanwhile.
Nop, the sin was not regarding sex but ILLEGAL SEX,sex against nature, sex between the cherubim and Eve. That's why the text says to the snake-dragon interdimensional seraphim "because you did that you're cursed (3:15). If the snake didn't lie regarding the knowledge opening of the "eye" (Udjat) since God confirmed that (3:22), the lie was because they lost their everlasting life as a consequence of that opening of the eyes. If there was sex it was not the normal thing that was blessed (1:28). Of course, this text was not mention by Zecharia Sitchin, for example, because it doesn't fit in his intraconstructed package of "truthalltruthandnothingbutthetruthsohelpyougod". wall
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I mean Hevila's brother's name (Genesis 10:28,29). :book:
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The "wall of eyes" you linked to, Inca, is also a common sight for DMT users.

Perhaps this "spirit molecule" was the forbidden fruit (blue apples, blue lotus, et. al., in other mythologies) and, instead of a laboratory procedure that outer aliens utilized to "splice" our genes, or a procreational act of copulation, it was a synthesis of the plant intelligence and hominid consciousness that "bumped" our state to higher consciousness. Thus, creativity ensued (for a while) at a high level and gave rise to deep, collective symbols and mythologies.

The "avatars" that appeared in these plant-induced realms are not outerspace aliens, but are denizens of this world that we can't see without the aid of this type of "fruit," or intricate initiation procedures that can cause the DMT (which does exist in our brain) to release.
99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught.

-Buckminster Fuller

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