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WHAT was the FORBIDDEN FRUIT?

 
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I became acutely and definitley aware of the difference between the good and the evil people in my life after consuming psyocibyn mushrooms one evening 12 years ago..and this knowledge is still very much alive within my being today..and is one of my most cherished assets..and is correct without fail...

don`t be scared..get ya some!!!
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psylocibyn....
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Eve's cherry of course.
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well...
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The forbidden fruit?

Black magic and other sinister manipulations I guess - it actually meant the complete cut off from our true creators, and the serpent stands for reptoid creats - the Anunnaki.

Connect the dots people.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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the two trees were the two strands of dna adam and eve had one h=uman strand and one godly one-- eve partook of the dna of seeds of knowlege and creted the race of more godly genes than adam's offsprings-- in other words Cain had more 'godly genes' than Abel
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now THAT is quite a theory.

hmmm


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Fools!

There was no fucking forbidden fruit.


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Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up"


"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
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Says the doubting Thomas.
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The double helix DNA is not the tree, that's just an aspect of the snake. We mustn't confuse the tree with the snake wrapped around the tree or forget there are 2 trees. Is not only the hallucinogenic stuff because there's the lost of lifespan diminushing step by step as well. Many myths tell the same thing about copulation between demon and the woman. When one of the guys says here "The "avatars" that appeared in these plant-induced realms are not outerspace aliens, but are denizens of this world that we can't see without the aid of this type of "fruit," it's very true. The aliens are nor really outsiders if we consider hyperdimension. They are interdimensional and if they are trapped in our 3D in fact they are more "insiders" than outsiders. Yet, there are ocassions and circumstances and places like electromagnetic navels of the world that people have actually witnessed these Ets without the use of these stoner substances:
[link to www.xpeditionsmagazine.com]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Jim Hurtak experiences inside Great Pyramid are also revealing.
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Perhaps there is a tree between the snakes in DNA (hence, in "life"). It just exists in a different dimension (produced by the torsion field of the snake's skin.)
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Snake's spin. Not skin. Ooops.

Having a psychadelic (Greek for "mind world") experience reveals the "tree."
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Greetings:

In Reference To The Thread ... WHAT was the FORBIDDEN FRUIT?

This Is Not "Fruit" But Alludes To The Story Of ... The "Original/Sanctioned Controlled Experiments" !! ... These Were Carried Out By Beings Of "12 Representative Bodies" (Worlds/Areas) ... Of Which They Were/Are ... Genetic Specialists !! ... The Controlled Experiments Dealt With Creating The Perfect Composite Forms/Bodies/Shells ... In Order To
Exist Within This Solar System ... Being Protected From It's Radiations/Energy Forces ... And Those Forces Exerted By The Planet
Terra/Earth Itself !!

These Experiments To Design Such Bodies Was Not Just In One Specific Area ... But There Were Many Such Experiments Going On Throughout Your Planet !! ... There Were Many "Created Test Subjects" ... Of Which Environments Were Set Up To Test Certain Genetic Enhancements ... Adaptabilities Of These Forms !!

The "Bodies" Were Created ... Were Needed By Beings Of Other Places ...
Other Worlds ... To Function/Exist Here !! ... This Was Not Inclusive/Exclusive To The Specialists Involved In Said Experiments ... But
This Was A "Assigned/Agreed Upon" Task Carried Out By Those Affiliated With ... "The Council Of Worlds/Association Of Worlds" !!

We Say That These Were "Controlled Experiments" ... As The Conditions
Created Were Of A "Controlled Environment" & Intricate & Precise Data Was Needed ... To Further Enhance Changes Of/Within Such Shells/Bodies !! ... The "Control" Was Not To Be Disturbed ... Not To Be Interfered With !! ... As This Could & Would Make All Data Collected ... Relatively Worthless !!

It Was Understood By Those Within And Around This Sector ... This Area
Surrounding Terra/Earth ... That This Is A "Quarantined Planet" ... That Permission Was Needed Before Going There !! ... Unfortunately This
Message Of Quarantine Didn't Reach All Ears !! ... As An Outlying World Did Not Receive This Information !!

This World Named: Nibiru Is On An Orbit Which Brings It Within Proxmity To Terra/Earth ... Approximately Every 3,652 Terrestrial Years !! ... It Was On One Such Orbit Inbound To This System ... And Nearing This Planet That
Scans Were Made ... That Detected Minerals Needed ... To Substain Their
World's Atmosphere In It's Perpetual Flight Through Space ... & To Prolong
The Lifespan/Cycle Of It's Inhabitants !!

As There Were No "Warning Buoys" ... No "Signs" Saying: "Keep Out" !! ...
The Being Of Nibiru Felt It Was OkTo Proceed !! ... To Come Here ... To
Land On Earth !!

These Beings ... Referring To Themselves As Anunnaki (Under The Auspices ... Under The Council Of Anu ... The Male Head Of Council) ... Landed On Terra/Earth ... & "Set Up Shop" !! ... These Were Of Many Races/Species ... Many Specialists Operating Under One Roof !! ... Under The "Family Title" Anunnaki ... Which Consisted Of ... Draconians ("Dragon Beings") ... Dinoids ("Dinosaur Beings") ... Silurians ("Serpentine Beings") ... Arians/Lyrans (Those Of "Humanoid" Of Great Height/Air) ... & Many Many Other Beings Besides !!

Each Of These Beings Had Their Own "Assigned Tasks" Depending On Their
Specializations & Areas Of Knowledge !! ... Of These Beings ... There Were Those Of The Anunnaki ... Who's Jobs/Assignment Was To Obtain The Minerals !! ... This Was Not An Easy Job/Task !! ... As To Do So ... They Had To Physically Mine & Bring Thies Up From Below Ground ... From Below The Surface !! ... A Very Physical ... Dirty ... Laborious Task !!

The Beings Had High Technology ... And Could Have Actually Obtained The
Minerals/Materials From Orbit !! ... However In Order To Maintain Integrity
Of These Materials ... In Of Their Use/Uses ... The Minerals Had To Be
Obtained In A Raw Form !! ... Any Energies (Other Then Physical Means) Would Alter The Matrix & Make These Worthless !!

The "Anunnaki Miners" Found Out Just How Difficult & "Back Braking" Mining
Could Be !! ... As They Were Burdened & Exhausted From This Task ... They
Petitioned Enlil (Head Of Terra/Earth Planetary Operations & Overall In
Charge Of Security !! ... He Was/Is ... A Very ''Everything By The Book" Dinoid Being !!) ... To Make For Them A Worker ... Who Could Do This Labor ... And Take Them Out Of The Mines !! ... There Was Even The
Suggestion/Strong Hint ... That If You Don't Come Up With A Solution Soon
... We Will Walk Out Of The Mines ... And You Can Mine/Obtain The Minerals
Yourself !! ... See How You Enjoy It !!

Now Enlil Was In A Quandry ... Well You Could Say An Almost Panic !!
... As They Needed These Minerals ... Both For Their Planet & Themselves !!
... What Was To Be Done ??? ... Consult With Enki (The Chief Scientist/Genetic, Biogenetic, Bioeugenic Engineer Of The Anunnaki) ... A Draconian/Dinoid Being ... Who "Followed The Book" ... But Only So Far !! ... Heee Hee Hee !!) ... And Tell Him ... We Need To Create A "Worker For The Mines" !! ... A Being Specifically Made/Created For One Task ... & One
Task Only !!

Enki Considered The Problem ... & Decided To Use The African Ape Species As A Matrix ... To Genetically Graft Onto !! ... That Is The DNA Was Taken Of The Ape Species ... This Was Combined With Anunnaki DNA ... Then This Mixture Was Placed Into "Clay Like Containers" & Inserted Into Anunnaki Volunteer Birthmothers ... Who Gave Birth To "Worker Beings" !! ... This Process Worked Rather Well ... Except Unbeknown To Enlil (Enki's Half Brother) ... The DNA Trace/Splice To Be Used Was "Switched" ... And Enki's DNA/Blood Was Substituted !! ... Making These Beings Not Just Creations ... But Royal Creations !! ... (As Enki Was Royalty & A Son To Anu !!)

So Far The Presence Of The Anunnaki Was Not Causing Too Much Interference
!! ... As The Mining Operations Were Far Removed From "Quarantined Areas"
Where Experiments Were Being Ran/Tested !! ... However ... Upon The Creation Of "Artificial Beings" ... "Mules" As It Were (As They Made Not To Reproduce) ... This Was In Direct Interference To The Edicts ... The Agreements That Only That Of The "12 Representatives" Were To Create Life/Lifeforms On Terra/Earth !!

It Was Bound To Happen ... That Eventually All Parties Would Meet Up With One Another !! ... The "12" Knew Immediately ... That Others Were On
Terra/Earth ... And Monitored The Situation From "Behind The Scenes" ...
Choosing To Remain "In The Shadows Unless Their Presence Was Warranted !!
... *The Anunnaki On The Other Hand ... Did Not Know There Were "Test Tubes On The Burner" ... Experiments Being Run !! ... Of Which They Accidentally Wandered Right Into The Controlled Areas !! ... Again There Were No "Signs" ... No Indications Saying: Keep Out !! ... Ongoing Controlled Experiments !! ....*As It Is Natural For Beings To Be Curious ... So It Was For These
Beings Of The Controlled Experiments To Be Curious ... Of This/These
Newcomers ... Which They Had Not Seen Before !! ... Again Not Knowing That
These "Test Subjects" Were Not To Be Contacted ... They Interacted !! ...
And Like All Beings Conversed With One Another !!

As These Beings Were Other Then What They Knew ... The Test Beings Had Many
Questions ... Many Things Which They Wanted Answers To !! ... Essentially
They Wanted ... "A 2nd Opinion" On The Things Which They Have Been Instructed/Told !! ... One Of These Was ... That To Partake Of A Certain
Tree ... They Would Surely Die !! ... The Anunnaki Being Did Not Mean To
Laugh ... But It Came Out Anyway ... In A Repressed Snort !! ... After He
Composed Himself ... He Told The "Test Subject" ... (Having No Reason To
Suppress This Information !!) ... That This Was False !! ... And That Those
Who Said This ... It Seems ... Want To Keep You From Learning ... From
Understanding !! .... (To Keep You "Dumbed Down" !!) ... This Right There ... That Revealing By A "Sirian Being" (Who's Symbol Is Serpentine ... Like A Snake) ... Of The Anunnaki ... Threw A Monkey Wrench Into The Gears !! ... Completely Corrupted Any & All Data !! ... Now The "Control/Test" Was Ruined
!! ... Which Hissed Off Many Of The 12 Who Were Represented !!

Meanwhile Enki & Ninti (Ninharsag) (A Female Dinoid) & Lab Partner/Lab
Assistant & Mate Of Enki ... Were Having Fun In The Lab ... Creating These Mine Workers !! ... & Other Acts Of Mischevious/Tricks To Play On Enlil
... Who Was Always Just Too Serious !! ... Heee Hee Hee !!! ... While Enlil Wanted Just "Laborers Of The Mines" ... Enki Had "Other Plans" ... To Create "Earth Beings" Which Would Live & Grow On This World !! ... "Royal Representatives" Of A Royal Line !! ... Of His Line !!

Enki Felt That Noone Of Royalty Should Work In The Mines ... Especially
Noone Of His Blood !! ... So He Sat Forth In Creating The Necessary
Conditions To Change This !! ... Which He & Ninti (Ninharsag) ... Behind The
Scenes Worked On Changing The Chromosome Levels In These Beings ... To Make Them Capable Of Sexual Reproduction !! ... Then They Were
Schooled/Instructed In This Process & In All Knowledge !!

Enlil Really Didn't Get Word Of "What Went On" ... Until The Workers
Decided To Stage A "Wildcat Strike" !! ... For Better Working Conditions & Personal Rights !! ... They Stopped Working & Demanded That They Be Heard ... & Their Conditions Met !! ... Otherwise Well ... You Can Start Digging !! ... Enlil Right Then & There ... "Smelled A Rat" ... But He Had No Proof !! ... Although Proof Was Forthcoming When He Was Kept Awake At Night ... Loosing His Sleep ... When It Was Discovered That The Source Of The Noise Was ... "Intense Lovemaking" Of The Mineworkers !! ... Enlil Burst On The Scene ... (Out Of A Deep Sleep !!) ... And In A Dinoid Rage !! ... He Wanted Answers & He Wanted Them NOW !! ... How Are You Able To Do This ?? ... Who Gave You ... ENKI !! ... He Can Be The Only One !! ... So Enlil Went In Search Of Enki !! ... He Stormed Into The Lab ... YOU !! ... You Did This
!! ... Did These Things !! ... Now We Can Have No Rest !! ... No Peace !!!
... Enlil Raged & Raged !! ... Finally His Volcano Was Spent ... And The
Lava Cooled Somewhat !! ... Then Enki Spoke !! ... You Wanted Workers ... I
Gave You Workers !! ... However I Will Not Stand By & Create For You ... Or
For Anyone Else ... Slaves Or Slave Like Beings !! ... *These Beings I
Created ... From My Own Hand ... From My Own Blood !! ... I/We Are Responsible For These Creations Are We Not ?? ... To Create Life Is To Take
On Responsibility !! ... Do You Deny This ?? ... Enlil Stewed & Thought
About This For A Moment !! ... Finally Coming To The Understanding That
While Enki Made These Changes Without Approval ... That It Was The Proper
Thing To Do !!

Enki & Enlil Reached A Compromise !! ... Enlil Said: Ok !! ... But I Need My Rest ... My Sleep !! ... This Noise Has To Stop !! ... You Said You Are Responsible ... Then Be Responsible !! ... You Do Something About These "Creations Of Yours" ... Draw Up A Timetable ... Make A Schedule Of "Love Making Only ... Between These Times" ... Erect A Curfew ... Between Dusk & Dawn Of The Following Day !! ... Enki Agreed On This !! ... He Would Instruct These Beings Of What Needs To Be Done ... & Why !!

Later On It Was Revealed That Enki & Ninti Were Primarily Responsible For
The "Inspiration" Regarding The "Wild Cat Strike" ... Of Which They Both
Volunteered To Be "Negotiators"/Representatives Of These People ... To The Anunnaki !! ... Of Which The Strike Was Called Off ... Everyone Went Back
To Work ... And The Beings Were Given Their Rights !! ... As It Was Just &
Proper To Do So !! ... The Miners Did Not Want Anything Special ... Just
Wanted To Be Treated Fair !! ... These Negotiations Strengthened The Bond
Between The Mineworkers & The Anunnaki ... As Enlil Found ... That As Far As ... "Going By The Book" ... There Is Also Using Intelligence & Wisdom & Foresight ... Which Supersedes Any Book !! ... Enlil Was Uneasy About Discarding The "Set Plans" ... But Saw That Enki Was Correct !! ... That Doing Things "By The Book" Would Not Have Worked !! ... And By Making Alterations ... Things Are Proceeding Not Just On Schedule ... But Ahead Of Schedule !! ... Which Gave The Anunnaki Some Badly Needed Time Off ... To Pursue Other Interests & To Relax & Kick Back !!

We Now Pick Back Up ... Where We Left Off ... In The Telling Of The "12
Representatives" & Their Ruined/Controlled Experiments !! ... These Beings As Stated Were Hissed !! ... Royally Ticked Off !! ... Enough Was Enough !!
... They Petitioned (Demanded) Redress Of Grievances !! ... (Which Is A
Process Where All Parties Are Heard In Council Chambers & A Ruling Is Made
On Presented Evidences ... Toward These Grievances !!)

All Parties Were "Served Notice" .... To Attend This "Court Session" In
Council Chambers ... To Address Certain Charges ... Certain Grievances Made Against Those Termed: Anunnaki !! ... All Violations Were Stated Clearly & Truthfully ... With Both Parties To Air Their Feelings & Understandings In This Matter & To Present Evidences To Support Their Contentions !!

The Day/Time Came ... For The "Redress Of Grievances" !! ... Court Was Now In Session !! ... Members/Representatives Of The "12 Representing Bodies" Spoke First !! ... Of The Many Many Violations These Beings Had Done
... Had Incurred Upon Their Sanctioned Experiments !! ... Great Restrained
Anger Was Shown Toward Those They Felt Were Responsible !! ... **Now It Was
Those Of The Anunnki ... Their Turn To Speak & Present Evidences !! ... Of
Which They Had Not Papers Or Evidences ... Only The Truth ... The Facts As They Saw Them !! ... That They Were Innocent Of All Charges ... By The One Main Fact ... Given To Council ... That No "Warning Signs" Were Posted !! ... No Space Warning Buoys Were Present ... No "Fenced In Areas" ... Nothing To Tell That ... Anything Was Amiss !! ... That There Were Others There But Themselves !! ... Council Then Asked After The Anunnaki Presentation ...
"And You Are Basing Your Defense On This Premise ... On This Understanding
?? .... The Anunnaki Said ... Yes We Are !!

There Was A Recess ... While Deliberation Went On With Council !! ... There Was A Wait ... And Finally Council Reappeared !! ... Saying ... What Ruling Is Set Forth Today ... Is Our Decision !! ... We Find The Anunnaki Guilty Of All Charges !! ... To Which The "12 Representative Bodies" Were Delighted !! ... There Was Much Noise To Support A Cheering Atmosphere !! ... Then A Loud BANG BANG BANG Of The Gavel !! ... WE WILL HAVE SILENCE !! ... Everyone Became Quiet !! ... Then The Head Of Council Spoke Again !! ... Further ... We Find The Anunnaki Had No Warnings ... No Acknowledgement Of Said Experiments !! ... They Did Not Know Of These Things !! ... And So
They While They Are Guilty Of Having Caused Such Actions ... These Actions
Were Not Deliberate !!

It Is Therefore Our Ruling ... Our Decision ... That In Order To Achieve
Balance & To Continue Forth ... All Anunnaki Will Be Given A Choice ...
Depending Upon Their Involvement In Said Transgressions ... & Will Be
Offered A Decision To Stay On Terra/Earth ... Or To Leave This World & Return To Their Own Planet !! ... Further ... An Energy/Frequency Barrier
(Known As The Van Allan Radiation Belt) Is To Be Constructed To Prevent
Further Contact Between Those Anunnaki On The Outside ... And The Beings
On Terra/Earth !! ... *Of The Decision The Granting Of Stay On Terra/Earth
By Those Of The Anunnaki ... This Is On Involvement & Merit !! ... We See
That Those Of The Anunnaki Are Also Specialists In Their Prospective Fields
!! ... It Would Highly Benefit Both Parties To Work Together On Projects ... Sharing Equally ... Then Be Off On Their Own !! ... We Have Talked With The Anunnaki ... & Are Told That All Is Not Lost !! ... That The Data That Is Thought To Be Corrupted Can Be Salvaged ... As They Have Methods In Which To Do So !! ... They Are Willing To Work With "The 12" & Share In This Knowledge ... Whereby Your Experiments Can Proceed ... And We May Say ... At A More Rapid Pace !! ... What Say You ?? ... (Question Directed To
"The 12") ... Does This Not Sound Of A Solution ... An Answer To Your
Grievances ??

"The 12" Mulled & Deliberated On This Question ... Then All Heads Bowed
In Agreement !! ... That We Would Accept These Conditions !! ... How Say You (Question Directed At The Anunnaki) ... Is This Acceptable To Your People ?? ... We Agree To These Terms !! ... Then So Ordered !! ... This Grievance Is Ruled Upon !! ... Then The Council People Left ... And Both Sides Joined Together ... Realizing That They Had Much More In Common With Each Other ... Then What They Thought !! ... Proper Introductions Were Made ... And Right
Off Everyone Was Conversing On Their Specialties & Their Particular
Problems In Their Fields Of Endeavor !! ... To Which One Side Or The Other Had A Workable Solution !! ... As Either By Themselves Saw "One Part Of The
Solution" ... And The Other ... Had The Other Half Of The Equation !! ...
Which Worked Out Wonderfully !!

Farewell For Now !!

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ST In BG,


what kinda drugs you be doin' ?


Please do share.




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Greetings: Thomas Dolby 5.5
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Fools!

There was no fucking forbidden fruit.

**You Are Correct !! ... But Using Your Word Form/Ideas ... Fruit Did Help Them To "Fuck" ... To Have Sexual Intercourse !!

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ST In BG,


what kinda drugs you be doin' ?


Please do share.

**I Know You Mean To Be Insultive ... However We Will Ignore Your Ignorance & Say This ... No Artifical Inducements Are Needed ... In Order To Profess Of That ... Which One Has Experienced ... In Another Life/In Other Lifetimes !!

**Of One Embodiment Of Which I Had/Have ... Is That Of The Chief Head Scientist ... Master Genetics ... Biogenetics ... Bioeugenics Engineer Of The Anunnaki ... In The Hybrid Form Of Draconian & Dinoid !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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FORBIDDEN FRUIT
Was the entertaining by God the Son of the idea that God the Father and Prime Creater was vulnerable and could be displaced by God the Son.

The attempt to entertain this idea led to God the Son dreaming up an entire scenario of vulnerability in other to try and convince God the Father that He is vulnerable.

We know this dream as the universe/multi-verse, the dynamics of nature, energy, and all the entities which arise in the dream. It is all a dream trying to convince God the Father that He is vulnerable.

How to wake up . . . that's another thread.

aloha
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Greetings: Greetings: Inca=Chinitial: User ID: 98870

The double helix DNA is not the tree, that's just an aspect of the
snake.

**Well ... No ... Specific DNA Creates The Lifeform Of The Tree !! ... While ... The "Snake" Is Not A "Snake" ... Rather It Is Symbology ... A Symbol That Represents The Being(s) Of The Sirius Star System !! ... The DNA Symbol Is Therefore Of Those Of That System That Are Possessors Of This Knowledge !!

We mustn't confuse the tree with the snake wrapped around the tree or
forget there are 2 trees.

**The Tree Represents The Base ... The Joining Of Knowledge ... That
Of Which Comes Together To Make Whole !! ... The Symbols Are Correct
It Is Of (2) Snakes That Are Wrapped Around A Staff ... A Pole ... Or In This Rendition ... Around A Tree ... The Tree Of Knowledge ... Of Knowing & Of Wisdom !! ... *The 2 Snakes Of Different Colors ... Are Of Opposite Polarities Are Of The Joining Together Of These Polarities To Make/Create Life !! ... This Is Also Representing The Bands/Matrix Of The DNA Itself ... Which Is As A Ribbon !!

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FORBIDDEN FRUIT
Was the entertaining by God the Son of the idea that God the Father
and Prime Creater was vulnerable and could be displaced by God the Son.

The attempt to entertain this idea led to God the Son dreaming up an
entire scenario of vulnerability in other to try and convince God the Father that He is vulnerable.

We know this dream as the universe/multi-verse, the dynamics of
nature, energy, and all the entities which arise in the dream. It is all a
dream trying to convince God the Father that He is vulnerable.

How to wake up . . . that's another thread.

aloha

**This Has Nothing To Do With "Religion, Relgious Belief Or It's Distortions !! ... Which Is A "Invention Of Man" ... And Not The True Telling/Rendering Of What Happened ... What Went On ... With Beings Of Other Places/Worlds
That Came To Terra/Earth ... In Ancient Times !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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This is all a terrible misunderstanding -- the fruit was MANGO, HE wasn't teling Adam "MAN, GO!".


Think about it, how do you eat a mango? That's right, very similar to slippery sloppy cunnilingus, which doesn't lead to parenthood.
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Almost all of have you miss the point.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is what it says on the tin.

Prior to sampling its fruit the Creation had no idea that such things existed.

Nothing contrary was processed in their minds or bodies, until they became aware of the concept of contrary.

This started a psychosomatic chain reaction which ultimately resulted in their deaths.
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it depends on how you look at this... if you dig deep enough in biblical folklore, you will find it was a fruit called the quince. but in truth, the consumption of the "friut of knowledge of good and evil" happened when man first caught a grasp onto the concept of adjectives. This allowed man to know right from wrong, green from red, hot from cold, and good from evil.

In my personal opinion, man was preprogrammed to know these things. they would be locked away until the time came for him to know. Man was told he would receive this knowledge if he ate the fruit. Who ever told him this knew of his programming and used the quince as a belief "trigger" to unlock the concept of adjectives.

perhaps man was not ready for this knowledge. Maybe his reasoning capacity could understand it, but not fully use it, or or keep it from getting the best of him.

perhaps this is why there is racial hatred, war, and hostility between men, women, and especialy children.alien03
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The Completion Of Passover

Christine Beadsworth

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May 17, 2006



Dear saints,

As I began writing this article, I intended for it to be a compact single meal but God had other ideas. Revelation continued flowing as I wrote and it expanded into what is (so far) a four-course banquet. Here is the appetiser or Part One. May you be nourished and encouraged to press in to the fullness of your inheritance!



The Completion of Passover

Part one



As Christians, we celebrate and partake in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, which occurred at Passover but we tend to overlook the fact that God instituted Passover as an eight-day festival, comprising of the first day - Passover; followed by seven days of Unleavened Bread. Both the first day and the last day of this Passover period were considered holy:



Exo 13:6 Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.



Jesus came as a fulfillment of the feast of Passover – all eight days of it, yet we tend to think the fulfillment is over after the day of resurrection. I do want to be careful here to stress that I am not advocating that Jesus’ sacrifice was incomplete when He was resurrected. However, there is a prophetic significance displayed by the eighth day of the feast of Passover, which the Church has yet to experience. There is a fullness of the experience of what the Passover Lamb purchased for us, which has yet to be manifested on a wide scale in His Body.



Let us go to the first great passing-over to discover what we can about this eighth day. The Israelites crossed the Red Sea on the 17th Nisan (the same day Jesus rose from the dead) and traveled for three days in the wilderness (18th, 19th, 20th) until they came to Marah, where they camped overnight. Then they journeyed again and came to a place called Elim, where they rested:



Exo 15:27 And they came to Elim, where there were twelve wells of water, and seventy palm trees. And they camped there by the waters.



This would have been the 21st of Nisan, the last day of the Passover period and the feast of Unleavened Bread, which began on the 14th Nisan when they slaughtered the lambs and the first-born sons of Egypt were killed. So, on this eighth day, they were resting at a place where there were twelve wells and seventy palm trees. Why is this significant? I believe it connects us to the time when Jesus sent out His twelve disciples (Luke 9), depicted by the twelve wells; twelve being the number of apostolic government and authority. Then, a chapter later, He sent out seventy others with the same instruction (Luke 10:1-19). Why did He choose seventy?



We are told in Genesis that when Jacob came to Egypt, there were seventy with him.



Gen 46:26 All the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, who came out of his loins, besides Jacob's sons' wives, all the souls were sixty-six. And the sons of Joseph, who were born to him in Egypt, were two souls. All the souls of the house of Jacob, who came into Egypt, were seventy.



These seventy were the number that had been produced from one man, Jacob. The original twelve sons were his seed and from them would come the twelve tribes of Israel. At the point when they entered Egypt, they had multiplied to seventy seed. Egypt represents the world. Just as Jesus sent the seventy out to bring the good news of the kingdom, so these seventy arrived in Egypt. However, as time went on, they became enslaved to the Egyptians and ended up building for them. Is this not a picture of what has happened to the church? Sent into all the world and yet after a few generations ending up enslaved to the world system. In the Israelite’s hearts there still throbbed the promise given to Abraham, but outwardly they were slaves to a pagan religious system. Do we not, as they did, look to the day of the manifestation of the full freedom of the sons of God?



When God delivered Israel from Egypt during the first Passover, He brought them to a place of rest on the eighth day at Elim. In spite of all the years of slavery, here once again was represented the seventy who had entered Egypt but now they stood as seventy palm trees, with the seed of the first seventy resting in their shade at their feet. A palm tree in the Bible always speaks of righteousness and strength



Psa 92:12 The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree



These seventy palms speak of the sons of the kingdom dwelling at a place of Sabbath rest and alongside them are the wells of apostolic governmental anointing to drink from. However, at this juncture there is a mixed multitude assembled here. Some have come along just for the experience; others have been swept along with the excitement of the exodus but are not true sons of Abraham by faith. Just as in Jesus’ parable of the kingdom, there are tares in-amongst the wheat.



From this place o f rest, it was God’s intention that the children of Israel go straight to the Promised Land. However the Word records their journey:



Num 33:10 And they removed from Elim, and encamped by the Red sea. And they removed from the Red sea, and encamped in the wilderness of Sin.



Here we see that instead of pressing forward, they went back to the Red sea, back the way they had come, back towards the Egypt and the idolatrous system they had just been delivered from. Then they set up tent in the wilderness of Sin.



Sin was the moon-god and one of the two chief seats of Sin-worship was Ur, where Abraham came from. It seems that although Abraham had left his people and their pagan beliefs to follow the one true God, his seed found themselves entangled in a wilderness of this same pagan worship. Sin was known as ‘the lord of wisdom’ and was the chief deity of the nomadic peoples who considered the moon to be their guide and protector in the cool of the night, which is when they did their wanderings. Almighty God did not want His people looking to the moon for direction as the pagans did, so He manifested as a pillar of fire all through their wilderness wanderings, to provide light and direction. The cloud by day obscured yet another object of pagan worship – the sun.



Exo 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:



Sin's chief sanctuary at Ur was named E-gish-shir-gal = "house of the great light". What an exact counterfeit this is of the House of God, His people! We are the light of the world according to the Word of God, yet somehow there is so much of the world in the church that our light has become very dim! We have often heard it said that God took His people out of Egypt but He then had to get Egypt out of them. It seems that right here at the beginning of their wilderness time, they were wandering around in the very things their father Abraham had left behind.



In Paul’s letter to the Romans, he reminds them that they haven’t received a spirit that makes them a slave again to fear, but they have received the spirit of son-ship, by which they may cry, “Abba Father”. Here, in the wilderness, God shows Himself to be a faithful Father, providing light, warmth, shelter and daily food for His Israelite children. Yet, they become slaves again to fear when they hear the report of the spies about the Promised Land and this causes them to wander for years in a wilderness where pagan religious beliefs were still held.



How similar this is to the Church, which has wandered around in a wilderness for two thousand years since the coming of Christ, being led and provided for by the Father yet not coming into the fullness of all that was won by Calvary. We have come out of the world (Egypt) but worldly practices and belief systems are tenaciously hanging in there, polluting our concepts of God and the truth and simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.



What God had in mind with the cross was to deliver a people out of darkness into His marvelous light; out of Egypt and through the red Sea to a place of Sabbath rest at Elim (which means ‘palms’) and then on to experience the Promised Land of their inheritance, which included His continual presence and provision. Instead there was a tangled torturous journey, during which all except two of the original men who came out of Egypt, died.



These two had witnessed, with their own eyes, the beauty and richness of the land of Canaan and possessed the faith in God’s power to give it into their hand. In the end, according to what they had believed, they fully received! Two is the number of witness. In the pattern of these two men, there are those who have journeyed with the Church through its years of entanglement in the wilderness of Sin and yet their belief in God’s ability to bring the Church into an experience of the fullness of its inheritance, has not dimmed. What they have seen of the Promised Land with the eye of faith, will become the manifested portion of their experience in God. What is the land of Canaan? – it is the experience of the revelation of Jesus Christ within us – Christ in us is the hope of glory!

(continued in part 2)



Part Two – the fullness of Passover in the Third Day



Now, we have entered the third day, or third thousand years since the coming of Christ. We have heard much about crossing over the Jordan into the Promised Land. In Joshua, we find the Israelites celebrating their second Passover, forty years after the first in Egypt. They have just been circumcised as adults, a very painful experience marking them as the covenant people of God. Why did God insist on this? I believe the reason was two-fold. Firstly, to remind them of the original covenant He had made with their father Abraham, that their enemies would be His enemies and that if they would serve Him, he would make them a remarkable and blessed people in all the earth. Secondly, there had to be a removal of fleshly coverings which had been allowed to remain undisturbed throughout their wanderings as God’s people in the wilderness of Sin. Once this had taken place, they would be in a position to celebrate the Passover with a depth of understanding that their fathers had not possessed.



This is the place where the Church of Jesus Christ tarries at this time. We have need of a fresh revelation of the power of the cross and we also need a removal of that which is fleshly in our midst. The Church has come a long way since the days of the early Church in the book of Acts; yet it seems we have not emerged to a position of greater clarity and power but rather a place of division and confusion, entangled with the doctrines and ways of the world. We have need of a circumcision of the heart afresh. It is time for the Body of Christ to partake of a second Passover experience at the threshold of the Promised Land. We are those that were born into the Body of Christ in its time in the wilderness and we need to apprehend and experience afresh a personal revelation of the power of the Blood of the Lamb.



The circumcision of the heart accomplishes the following:



Jos 5:9 And the LORD said unto Joshua, This day have I rolled away the reproach of Egypt from off you.



The Lord wants to remove the reproach and shame of the world from His Church. No longer will the world be able to look at His people and say they see no difference between the behavior of believers and that of unbelievers. There will be a new level of holiness seen in the Church. The fear of the Lord will return to His people as they once again tremble at His Word.



The Israelites crossed the Jordan on the 10th of Nisan (Josh 4:19). This is the same day as the lamb was taken into the house in Egypt and examined for four days. It is also the same day that Jesus entered Jerusalem and was found to be a Lamb without blemish during the four days before the crucifixion on the 14th Nisan. We, the Body of Jesus Christ are in a period of being examined by the searchlight of the Holy Spirit and the knife of the Word is dividing between soul and spirit and severing that which is of the flesh – God is circumcising His Church. It is time for judgment to begin with the house of God; just as when Jesus went into the temple and overturned the tables of the moneychangers. The kingdom of God does not operate on a principle of buying and selling, but of freely receiving and then giving freely. Buying and selling is a system used to run the world economy but the sons of the Kingdom must operate by a different spirit.



As the Israelites sat and recovered from their painful circumcision experience, the cit y of Jericho was right before them. Jericho was known as the city of palms. It is no coincidence that after crossing the Jordan, God’s people come again to a place of palms, just as their fathers did after crossing the Red sea. There were not seventy palms here but a far greater number, just as there was a far greater number of Israelites that came out of Egypt, compared to the seventy from Jacob’s loins that entered Egypt! Multiplication had taken place. There had been growth but the difference between Elim and Jericho was that instead of wide open spaces with twelve wells to drink from, there was a fortified stronghold in the midst of these palms! What had merely been seen as a mixed multitude at Elim, had now become a stronghold, housing a pagan king who called himself ‘God’ right in the center of God’s people.



The name ‘Jericho’ means ‘moon, mo nth’. This city was one of two chief places of moon-worship in Canaan during the time when Joshua and the Israelites crossed the Jordan. Once again, the people of God are faced with the paganism and idolatry their father Abraham turned his back on. Unfortunately, it seems it was not completely removed from his heart, for his descendants were compelled to deal with this same enemy even in the Promised Land!



God had demonstrated His sovereignty over the gods of Egypt through the ten plagues; the grand finale being the killing of the first-born. This was important because the Egyptians worshipped the sun amongst many other things and believed their king as a god. Therefore the first-born of Pharaoh was the ‘god-in-waiting’. By slaying him, God demonstrated His supreme power and the futility of serving the gods of Egypt.



Now,, it was time for a new generation to witness God’s power over the gods of Canaan. The Canaanites had heard of the victory over the gods of Egypt and were in fear and trembling as they saw the Israelites crossing the Jordan towards them. The strong city gates were bolted and reinforced and none were allowed to enter or leave. As they watched the celebration of Passover and the lambs being slain, they must remembered the description of a similar scenario forty years before in Egypt and begun to dread the arrival of the angel of death to claim their first-born. They knew their days were numbered.



While in the wilderness, Israel was given explicit instructions not to serve the gods of Canaan, to make no covenants with them, and to break their images. The Canaanite religion was full of sexual perversion and indescribable immorality. Having stemmed from the Babylonian beliefs originally, the Canaanite way of worship was markedly more carnal and sordid. Having sowed to the flesh, they had reaped a hundredfold from the flesh.



The tragic thing on this Third Day is the lesson we see from this description in Joshua 5 - that this stronghold of idolatry and un-cleanness is found in the center of the palm trees, God’s children. God’s city of palm trees, the Church, has come to be called Jericho, the center of moon-worship.



Mat 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.



When Jesus was explaining the kingdom to His disciples, He said that a woman (the Church) hid leaven (sin) in three measures (three days) of meal. Now, on the Third Day, we find that the flour which is intended to produce unleavened bread for a needy world, is full of leaven. A little bit of leaven has leavened the whole lump! After the Passover night, God instructed a seven-day period during which unleavened bread must be eaten. We are supposed to be the unleavened bread that feeds the lost, but we are all puffed up with the hot air of our fleshly gospel and the world goes hungry!



Later, Jesus explained more fully what this leaven represented, and notice it was to His disciples that He spoke, not to the multitudes following:



Luk 12:1b he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.



This is the judgment that is coming to God’s house – no more hypocrisy, no more preaching one thing and living another, no more hidden sin and praying loud prayers on street corners.



In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul addresses the issue of sexual sin that is being overlooked in the Corinthian church. The Message version puts it so graphically (bear with me for quoting the whole passage, but the Word says it so much better than anything I could come up with !):



1Co 5:6 Your flip and callous arrogance in these things bothers me. You pass it off as a small thing, but it's anything but that. Yeast, too, is a "small thing," but it works its way through a whole batch of bread dough pretty fast. So get rid of this "yeast." Our true identity is flat and plain, not puffed up with the wrong kind of ingredient. The Messiah, our Passover Lamb, has already been sacrificed for the Passover meal, and we are the Unraised Bread part of the Feast. So let's live out our part in the Feast, not as raised bread swollen with the yeast of evil, but as flat bread--simple, genuine, unpretentious. I wrote you in my earlier letter that you shouldn't make yourselves at home among the sexually promiscuous. I didn't mean that you should have nothing at all to do with outsiders of that sort. Or with crooks, whether blue- or white-collar. Or with spiritual phonies, for that matter. You'd have to leave the world entirely to do that! But I am saying that you shouldn't act as if everything is just fine when one of your Christian companions is promiscuous or crooked, is flip with God or rude to friends, gets drunk or becomes greedy and predatory. You can't just go along with this, treating it as acceptable behavior.



My brothers and sisters, we have become so numbed by the fleshly gospel that has resounded in our ears for so long, that we have come to the place of calling evil, good and good, evil. We are no longer convicted by sensuality passing itself off as spirituality in the church. In fact, very few are even able to discern it. Our seeker-friendly gospel has so watered down the definition of sin, that conviction seldom strikes us at the heart. We hear the knock at the door of ou r hearts so faintly, it is easy to pass it off as being next-door. Oh, how we need that circumcision and the hearts of flesh He promises; hearts that are super-sensitive to His touch and tremble at His Word.



It is not until we have undergone this process, that we will be able to tackle the demolition of Jericho, that stronghold of idolatry and perversion in the Church, and move on to experience the fullness of our inheritance. We first need to experience the power of the Blood individually for ourselves, before we can unite as one Body against this ancient foe.



Part Three – Eating of the Food of Canaan



After all the men have been circumcised, the Word tells us that they ate of the food that was in Canaan.



Jos 5:11 And they did eat of the old corn of the land on the morrow after the Passover, unleavened cakes, and parched corn in the selfsame day.



This ‘old corn’ was, in fact, stored grain that had been parched or roasted in the fire. It was not brought from the wilderness side of the Jordan but had been grown and harvested and processed by people living in Canaan. How the Israelites came into possession of this ‘stored grain’ is not clear but it was obviously obtained from those who were there already.



Here we have a picture of the Body of Christ being fed by those forerunners who have been through the fires of purification and have been held in reserve for such a time as this. Their walk has been a lonely one, venturing where the Body has not been as a whole. They have been hidden and unknown and uncelebrated, while nourished by the very grain they will be offering to the Body. What they have to share will be new to the Church. The Hebrew root for the word ‘old grain’ means ‘transition’. The word they speak will transition the Church into a place of fresh understanding of old truths. It will be a word purified by fire, a word in which all the hay and stubble has been removed; a word that can be built on. The reason that the hungry in the Church will be able to embrace and partake of this word, will be because these people will be the message. Their lives will speak. The Word of revelation from the Throne-room will have become flesh in them. Their words will be spirit and life.



So, according to Joshua 5, on the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread in Canaan, God’s people eat both unleavened bread i.e. Bread without hypocrisy and sin (not the puffed-up hypocritical diet of teaching offered by the Pharisees) and roasted corn i.e. fresh teaching from vessels that have been refined in the fire. There is a double portion of nourishment coming to the Body of Christ for a season after the refining work of the circumcision time. Interestingly, the Hebrew word translated ‘selfsame’ day carries within it the idea of coming from the same substance. It is the exact word used in Genesis by Adam, as he described his wife, newly formed and standing before him.



Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.



This picture of Christ’s Body feeding on the double portion has, hidden within its folds, the emergence and recognition of the Bride of Christ. She is of the same substance as Christ. The words she speaks testify that she has been with Jesus. Therefore, the roasted corn represents the forerunner-company of the Bride. In the formation of the very first bride, the rib which has been hidden deep within the body of Adam, close to his heart, is removed and formed into Eve. The word for ‘rib’ comes from a root word meaning ‘to limp’. These forerunners are those who have wrestled with God in the darkness until their names and characters have been changed. They are the over-comers who humbly walk with a limp, knowing that in their weakness, God’s strength is perfected . They do not speak in the persuasive words of men’s wisdom but in a demonstration of the Spirit and power.



While the Body of Christ has been in a slumber, God has been working with this rib, this group who has come apart and is being moulded in His hand like clay - He has been building and forming Christ within them. As they are unveiled to the Body at large as it arises from its slumber, there will be immediate recognition that they both come from the same substance, the incorruptible seed of Christ - and there will be an embracing and cleaving to become one.

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.



The father and mother of idolatrous pagan practice and religion will be left behind and the embracing of this fresh revelation of Eternal Truth deposited in the limping Company will restore that which has been removed and missing in the Body.



Joshua 5:12 tells us that after the people of God had eaten of the food of transition, the manna ceased and they never ate it again. The manna was the daily portion of sustenance which God had provided to get them to that point and position. Once they had absorbed the revelation that transitioned them to a new place of understanding, they had no more need of the old. They ate of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year. In other words, they experienced the fulfillment (fruit) of the promise of God, which had given so many years before. They not only saw the fruit of the Promised Land, as their Israelite fathers had so many years before in the wilderness when the grapes of Eshcol were brought back by the spies; but each one personally tasted or experienced the truth that God is good - and faithful to fulfill what He has promised.



The importance of this is in giving each of us a personal testimony. So many are holding onto promises that are as yet unfulfilled and we feel that in our present circumstances, we have little to tell the world. We still struggle with sickness, poverty and brokenness of soul and relationship and so our words seem hollow to our own ears when we try to tell someone in the world that God wants to heal the sick or heal marriages, or whatever it is they struggle with. We ourselves need a personal experience of God’s goodness first, that we may carry the news, like the woman at the well, to a waiting Samaritan village.



In psalm 92, the palm tree represents the righteous. However, moving from Psalms to Song of Songs, we find the palm tree now representing the Bride:



Son 7:7 This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.



The word for ‘cluster’ is ‘eshcol’. The nourishment that the Bride offers is similar to the first taste of the Promised Land that God’s people experienced in the wilderness of Sin. This is the real thing, the genuine experience of the Christian faith that we have heard about but only from a distance; a Word brought in a demonstration of the Spirit and power.



Reading through verses 8 and 9, there is a necessity to take firm hold the branches of this palm, to seize and lay hold of that which she offers for ourselves. We remember that the Kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent take it by force. We must apprehend and lay hold of and firmly make our own, this roasted corn or teaching of the new day.



Verse 9 speaks of the roof of her mouth tasting like the best wine. The root word for ‘roof’ means ‘’hard’. Although these fresh insights into the Word may be hard to understand, as in the case when the disciples were faced with the teaching of Jesus about eating His flesh and drinking H is blood, we need to receive what we hear, for then our experience will be as the tasting of the best wine.



Jesus produced the best wine at a wedding on the third day (John 2:1) – poured out of those vessels that had been standing, holding the water of the Word within them during the first two days. Their contents were first offered to the governor of the feast, who then called the bridegroom and confirmed that the best wine was reserved for the end of the feast. Who is the governor of this third-day feast? It is the Trinity; Father, Son and Holy Spirit preside over the banqueting table. Just as we have tasted the first-fruits or down-payment of the Spirit, this time it is God who has a foretaste of what has been held in store for Him; He tastes of the fruit of His promised land; a people whose full-bodied aroma and lingering aftertaste is the same as that of Christ. Then it is time to call the Bridegroom and let Him know it is time to fetch His Bride – she has made herself ready! She is bone of His bone and flesh of His flesh. What a price the fore-runners have paid to ensure the redemption of the whole Body! The fragrance of their surrender on the altar of sacrifice reaches the nostrils of God and He knows that if these few exude the perfume of Christ, then the whole Body will also be enveloped with the same fragrance ( a woman puts perfume on her pulse spots but it gives a fragrance to her whole body). These few are depicted in the woman with the alabaster box, who despised the shame and ridicule of those with Pharisee hearts and poured out the contents of her broken alabaster box upon Jesus:



Joh 12:3 Mary came in with a jar of very expensive aromatic oils, anointed and massaged Jesus' feet, and then wiped them with her hair. The fragrance of the oils filled the house.



Although it was only Mary who poured out that which was most precious to her, the whole house was permeated with the perfume. The fore-runners are poured out as a fore-taste or first-fruits of the best wine on the Third Day. This surrender to the purposes of God causes the rest of the Body to inherit their portion of the Promised Land. Greater love has no man than this, that a man lays his life down for his friends. Just as Jesus demonstrated during His Passover meal with His disciples, it is the laying down of their lives in order to wash their brothers’ and sisters’ feet with the water of the Spirit-quickened Word that will release many into the experience of their inheritance in Christ.



So, as we return to Joshua and the situation at Jericho, we find a vast company of palm trees, comprising the Bride, surrounding a fortified stronghold in their midst. Joshua asks the Angel of the Lord whose side God is on. He is told that God is on His own side. It is not about flesh and blood. This coming battle is not about people or whether God is on their side or yours. It is not about men of God or ministers in the pulpit or people who we believe are preaching error. It is a far more ancient battle than that. It is the battle of the garden of Eden. It is a battle for the heart of man. Why do I say this? Simply because the Promised Land is not about the inheritance of outward things. It is not about houses and lands and worldly wealth. These are the things of the world and will pass away. The Kingdom of God is within you and so is the Promised Land of your inheritance! God said that the priests had no inheritance because He was their inheritance! The greater the revelation of Christ your heart embraces, the more of Christ is manifested within you and therefore the more glory rests upon you. You are Christ’s inheritance and He is yours. Paul’s prayer was this:



Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what is the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints



His inheritance is in you. May God right now begin to give us the Spirit of Wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, to grasp this glorious fact. At the marriage supper of the Lamb, the gift the couple gives to each other is themselves. What are we going to receive in the Promised Land? The answer is – Jesus. He is the Promised Land of our inheritance.



1Co 13:12 We don't yet see things clearly. We're squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won't be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We'll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!(the Message)



Clear revelation of Jesus, clear sight, no more peering onto a mirror at ourselves, trying to see Jesus in us- but rather, taking the focus off the flesh and what the world has to offer us, and turning to gaze at the face of Jesus in adoration, will be the hallmark of the Bride. There must arise an Eve Company who will refuse to eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Let us be like Paul, who said:



Phi 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.



There is no greater treasure than knowing Jesus in intimacy – this is a truth that the fleshly Church of this day has yet to learn, but praise God, learn it, we will; through the testimony of those He brings us; those we have previously thought weak and foolish and despised, those humble bond-slaves of the Lamb, who come mercifully toward us, walking with a limp!



Part 4 of the Completion of Passover

The Destruction of Jericho



The time of circumcision is over; the Passover has been celebrated for the second time by God’s people and then Joshua receives the blueprint for the battle against Jericho. For six days they are to march around the city, once each day. The people are to be silent. Only the sound of the seven shofars are to be heard by the people of Jericho.



Jos 6:9 The armed guard marched ahead of the trumpet-blowing priests; the rear guard was marching after the Chest, marching and blowing their trumpets.



The sound of the shofar is the sound of sacrifice, the sound of the Blood (there are many good teachings available on this subject so I will not expand on this here). So for six days, all that was heard by the enemy was the sound of the Blood resounding over and around them. We know from Hebrews 12:24 that the blood of Jesus speaks a better word than the blood of Abel which cried out from the ground. The blood of Jesus speaks from the Mercy Seat. It speaks of victory over death and deliverance from sin and its consequences. Yet the hearing of this sound did not bring the walls of Jericho down. It took the combination of the shout of God’s people AND the sound of the Blood to destroy the stronghold of Jericho.



Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.



The Hebrew word for ‘blow’ in Joshua 6:9 can also be translated ‘to become a bond-slave’; in other words, to love not one’s life but to lay it down for another. The re is therefore within this image of the seven (the number of completion) priests blowing their shofars, a representation of a complete company who are willing to become bond-slaves of the Bridegroom. This is how they shall overcome. The word ‘testimony’ comes from the Greek word ‘martus’, from which we get the word ‘martyr’. Once again there is the picture of death to self.



Mat 10:39 He who finds his life shall lose it. And he who loses his life for My sake shall find it.





It is our choice: do we want to save and preserve our lives or are we willing to lose them for God’s greater purposes? If we are willing, then the sound of the Blood will emanate from the shofar of our laid-down lives.



On the seventh day, the Israelites marched round seven times. The sound of the Blood speaking was multiplied in the ears of the enemy seven times in one day. They heard it completely, seven cycles – in other words, what they heard was, ‘it is finished’. This prophetic action or drama portrayed the words of Jesus on the cross before He gave up His spirit. Jesus also gave a loud cry before He gave up His spirit, just as the Israelites gave a shout with the final sounding of the shofars. The result in both cases was the destruction of a barrier; in the case of Jericho it was the walls keeping Rahab from freedom, and at the cross, the veil separating the people of God from freely accessing His presence in the Holy of Holies.



So what exactly does the destruction of Jericho portray? Remember that I mentioned previously that Jericho was the center of moon-worship; the same form of idolatry that took place in Abraham’s town of origin. The seed of Abraham needed to secure victory over the same stronghold that Abraham contended with. Strangely, the Promised Land was not free of idolatry – it needed to be cleansed and Jericho was the strongest fortress in the Promised Land.



Idolatry is the primary sin of mankind; loving and worshipping something or someone in place of God. All through history, the same spirit of idolatry has continued. John calls it the love of the world: “If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him” (1 Jn 2:15). In the same breath he describes how the love of the world manifests – as “the lust of the flesh [craving for sensual gratification], and the lust of the eyes [greedy longings of the mind] and the pride of life [assurance in one’s own resources or in the stability of earthly things]” (v 16 AMP). To the degree the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life operate in the church, to that degree it serves the god of this age.



Because the moon reflects the light of the sun, the moon is a type of the church. When the church sinks to a place of focusing on self-image, self-realization, my ministry, my destiny, I, I, I - this is idolatry; the worship of self. The spirit of the world has set up its seat in the church and we bow down to it and do not even realize what altar we are worshipping at. We have been so lulled into slumber by the sensual humanistic seeker-friendly gospel of the present age, that our spiritual discernment is blunted – we are wretched and blind and do not even realize it.



The children of Israel marched around Jericho for six days in silence, with the sound of the Blood ringing in their ears. Let us look at the time frame for this march. Joshua tells us that they celebrated the Passover on the 14th day of the first month. The next day they began their march round Jericho – this was the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread. On the seventh day of Unleavened Bread, the walls of Jericho came tumbling down. This was the eighth and last day of Passover and the stronghold in the midst of the multitude of palm trees was destroyed! The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty for the pulling down of strongholds! They overcame by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony! The eighth day of the first Passover found the people of God at Elim, with the seventy palms and the twelve wells. The eighth day of the second Passover found the people of God at Jericho, the city of palms and the victory of the Blood completely demonstrated before their eyes!



There is another parallel which I want to draw your attention to. Abraham’s son Ishmael had an Egyptian mother. God demanded that Abraham separate from him and send him away. Many years later, on the first Passover, God separated Abraham’s people from the influence of Egypt again.



Abraham’s son, Isaac, was the son of promise. He was the first tangible evidence of the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham to make him a father of many nations. God then told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. Many years later, after the second Passover, God commanded Abraham’s seed, Israel, to destroy Jericho. They were commanded not to keep anything inside the city for themselves. Jericho represented the first-fruits of the fulfillment of God’s promise to them. Yet here God was telling them they could have none of it. The vessels of gold and silver and bronze were for the Lord. The rest had to be burned with fire.



Sometimes, when we have a promise from God, we begin to worship at the altar of that promise. The fulfillment of it becomes more important to us than God Himself. To deal with the potential for idolatry in our hearts, God requires that the first-fruits be set apart for Him alone. Isaac was Abraham’s first-fruits offering. He must have walked in silence up that mountain, gazing at his son, Isaac, just as the Israelites walked in silence round Jericho. As Abraham lifted the knife in obedience, the Lord stopped him and he saw the sacrifice that God had provided in his place. Similarly, as the Israelites marched seven times round Jericho on the seventh day, they heard the sound of the Lamb of God declaring ‘it is finished’ and they gave a mighty shout of victory – in essence, ‘God has provided a Lamb’. Just as Isaac was brought unscathed down from the mountain, so too, Rahab was rescued from Jericho. Isaac was to produce the bloodline that led to the birth of the Lamb of God, Jesus, and Rahab was also a part of bringing Him forth. Just as Isaac was the first-born back from the dead so to speak, so too was Rahab the first-fruits brought alive from the destruction of Jericho.



The Passover in Egypt deals with Ishmael. The first-born of Egypt died that day. The experience of the Passover in the Promised Land deals with our Isaac. It addresses the issue of moon-worship; idolatry. It is the very thing satan tempted Eve with in the garden of Eden. He told her that if she partook of the forbidden fruit she would become wise and become like God. He tempted her with the very thing that had caused his own downfall. Remember the litany of his ambition:



Isa 14:13 You said to yourself, "I'll climb to heaven. I'll set my throne over the stars of God. I'll run the assembly of angels that meets on sacred Mount Zaphon. I'll climb to the top of the clouds. I'll take over as King of the Universe!"



His focus was self – I, I, I; in effect self-worship i.e. Idolatry. Jericho is the idol-altar hidden in the recesses of our hearts; the place where spiritual ambition is fed and nurtured. It is the al tar that was built in the heart of man in the Garden of Eden – and God says it must be destroyed. He will not have the Church gazing in the mirror, worshipping her own beauty and perceived spirituality. She must turn away (repent) and gaze upon Him and be changed from glory to glory.



When God asks you to sacrifice your Isaac, He is in effect saying, “are you willing to give up making a name for yourself? Will you lay down fame, popularity, the acclaim of men and take up your cross and follow me?” He wants you to surrender the first-fruits of your fulfilled promise to Him. He wants to know He is first in your heart. Remember the picture of the shofar-blowers; bondslaves of the Bridegroom.



Rev 14:4 they lived without compromise, virgin-fresh before God. Wherever the Lamb went, they followed. They were bought from humankind, first-fruits of the harvest for God and the Lamb.



Once you are willing to sacrifice your Isaac, God will return to only that which will bring forth Chrisdont_use_thisife; every idolatrous altar will be flattened and His refining fire will destroy all that is not of eternal value.



On the prophetic eighth day of Passover after crossing the Jordan, the church of Jesus Christ must come to a unity of the faith and join with one voice in declaring the victory of the Blood over all idolatry in its midst. All vestiges of pagan worship and trappings of the idolatry of our forefathers in the faith must be pulled down. Every area in which the opinions of men have been taught as doctrines, needs to be purged. Matthew 15 tells us that when we do this, we deprive the Word of God of its power.



The fact that much of the Church celebrates Easter round the time of Passover, is an indication of the stronghold of idolatry in our midst. The word ‘Easter’ comes from the name of the moon goddess Ishtar and this Spring celebration was a fertility ritual, hence the eggs and rabbits. It has nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day of Passover. We want resurrection power in our midst yet we stubbornly cling to vestiges of paganism masquerading as monuments of the Christian faith. There has to come a separation between light and darkness and we must be children of the Light, both outwardly and inwardly. Halting the celebration of Easter is only the beginning. The altars of idolatry within our hearts and those within the heart of the Church must be destroyed and the only way to do so is to employ the weapon that is mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds – the power of the Blood and our testimony that we are bond-slaves of the Lamb, loving not our lives to the death.



Now let us look at Rahab. She dwelt in the midst of this idolatrous stronghold, yet she had faith in the God of Israel. The root of the word ‘Rahab’ means ‘to spread out, to enlarge’. Yet Rahab had no opportunity to do so in Jericho. It was her home but it was also the place where she was used and abused by men. Rahab is also the poetic name for Egypt. We also find Egypt mentioned in the following verse:



Rev 11:8 …in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.



From this verse, we see that Jerusalem was also called Egypt at times. So we can conclude that Rahab can also be a type of Jerusalem or the Church. Therefore we can see that Jericho, the stronghold of idolatry is the place where the church or Body of Jesus is used and abused to satisfy the lusts and desires of carnal men. Yet under this abusive system, Rahab had a desire deep in her heart for the God of Israel. Her fear of God was greater than her fear of man and she defied the king of Jericho when he demanded she bring out the two spies. She would not bow her knee to this king. That which has its root in the fear of God will be preserved alive, as the strongholds of idolatry are brought down in the Church. Everything else which pertains to an idolatrous religious system has a judgment edict declared over it. It will be destroyed by fire.



1Co 3:13 each one's work shall be revealed. For the Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try each one's work as to what kind it is.



As the palm tree of Song of Songs (that many-membered Company that stands round Jericho), the Bride dies to self and lays down her life for the Bridegroom, and vows to worship Him alone, she accesses the power of Heaven to destroy that which imprisons the people of God and is able to plunder the enemy strongholds and deliver ‘Rahab’, that which holds the potential to bring forth Christ in us.



It is vita l we do not try to salvage anything of the old religious mindset or system.



Jos 6:18 "As for you, watch yourselves in the city under holy curse. Be careful that you don't covet anything in it and take something that's cursed, endangering the camp of Israel with the curse and making trouble for everyone.



Achan took a Babylonian garment, probably a priestly garment and brought disaster to the whole camp. We cannot try to transfer the old pagan priestly garments over into the new wineskin of the Promised Land. No matter how sentimentally attached we are to the way we have done church in the past, no matter how cute we think Easter bunnies are, we are commanded by God to touch none of it. The only things He wanted besides Rahab were the vessels.



Jos 6:19 All silver and gold, all vessels of bronze and iron are holy to GOD. Put them in God’s treasury."



All vessels are holy to the Lord. These vessels represent the people who have been used and abused for the purposes of the idolatrous religious practices. They are to be placed in God’s treasury. Here we discover afresh God’s value-system. He considers people to be treasures. This is the foundation of true Christianity. God’s focus is on the value of those He created in His image. Instead the Church has largely used people and focused on money as their treasure.



2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.



We hear it said so often that we are the Church and the place where we meet is only a building, yet still somehow the Church continues to spend more of its income on the beautification and extension of the edifice of brick and mortar than on the living stones which make up the spiritual House of God. So despite our declared belief that we are God’s building and people are His priority, our financial statements show we do not share His priorities. In spite of all our present-day revelation, we have not moved far from the Church of centuries past and the idolatry of religious ritual, our ‘cathedrals’ are just more modern and full of state-of-the-art technology. It is time for Jericho to come down and the vessels within to be released into the full freedom of the sons of God.



We are presently in the third day since Christ came and also in the seventh thousand year period since creation. Likening these thousand-year ‘days’ to the seven days of the march around Jericho, we realize we are living in the time when that ancient stronghold of idolatry is scheduled to come down. This is the day when the sound of the Blood is multiplied seven times in the ears of the enemy! How does this tie up with Passover and celebrating its completion?



In Revelation 13:8, we find the phrase, ‘the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world’’. Before the seven thousand year periods, in that day before time, Jesus was slain. In effect, this therefore took place on the first day in God’s schedule, making the day we now find ourselves in, the eighth day since the Passover Lamb was slain. To put it another way, we have the privilege of living in the eighth day of God’s Passover Feast, that day in which He intends to bring down that vile stronghold of idolatry which has shackled and crippled the heart of His Church through the ages. He intends to have a Bride for His Son who refuses to continue in the sin of her mother, Eve by partaking of the fruit of that tree which claims to make one wise. Instead she will choose to embrace only the foolishness of the simple gospel and, like Paul, preach nothing but Christ and Him crucified. For the last six thousand years, Jesus, the Unleavened Bread has made intercession at the right hand of God and we are entering that day in which His waiting is over and His enemies are made to be His footstool.



Let us circle this stronghold in our midst, holding our peace as God puts His finger on areas within our own hearts where the stench of idolatry rises; understanding that what we see without, serves only as a mirror of that which is within. Then, as we partake in the seven circuits of this ancient foe at the beginning of this prophetic seventh day of Creation, let the eternal Truth of what took place before the foundation of the world begin to rise within our spirits until we too can release the word of our testimony in a mighty united shout of victory – IT IS FINISHED!
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"KNOWLEDGE" was the forbidden fruit, Go check out Gen.1 Who is behind that?

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