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New Drug Rules Could Harm Patients - Your Viewpoint and Solutions?

 
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it is a sad day when it is easier and cheaper
to get your medicine from a street dealer
than from an Obamacare doctor

or maybe that was the intention all along
since the Gov CIA controls the illegal drug
trafficking, profits now go to black bag ops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50047967


this is also an advantage for the elites
if their intention is mass poisoning

illegal street drugs are NOT tested
and approved by the FDA

so the elites can put whatever shit they want
in it and you would never know as it by-passes
FDA regulations and protocols
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Yes, more people will be at risk if they turn to illegal drugs.
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this is also an advantage for the elites
if their intention is mass poisoning

illegal street drugs are NOT tested
and approved by the FDA

so the elites can put whatever shit they want
in it and you would never know as it by-passes
FDA regulations and protocols
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Best research on Parkinson's evah-China White

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Langston had no idea how widespread the use of new heroin might be, but the minute he made the connection between the drug and Parkinson-like paralysis, he issued a public announcement warning heroin users of the drug's dangerous side-effects. That recruited three more new heroin users suffering from the same symptoms: stiffness, impaired speech, rigidity, tremors. These parallels tempted Langston to diagnose Parkinson's disease, even though the diagnosis made no sense. Symptoms of Parkinson's arise whenever the brain's supply of dopamine, a neurotransmitter, is interrupted. If the brain is short on dopamine, neural signals that instruct muscles to work get lost or blocked, resulting in the very problems Langston's patients were experiencing. No one knows exactly what causes the disease, but it strikes almost exclusively the elderly-- one in 100 between the ages of 60 and 65. George Carrillo, Juanita Lopez, and the others were much too young to have Parkinson's.
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So heroin use mimics Parkinson disease...interesting info.
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More government interference is not going to solve any problems. It will make it much harder for people who need these drugs to get them legally. Pharmacists are now refusing to fill prescriptions for painkillers if they suspect abuse, when a quick call to the prescribing doctor could clear it up. Hell, they're now regulating OTC Sudafed to help stop meth abuse. Last time I checked meth is still an epidemic. Drug abusers will find a way to abuse. These laws only hurt people with legitimate prescriptions trying to get their medicine.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


applause2
Well said.

The abusers are going to find a way to abuse. I worry that these laws might actually lead to more crimes such as home invasions. A bad guy hangs around the pharmacy until he spots someone (maybe an older person) get a painkiller filled. He follows that person and once he/she gets home they are forced inside by the bad guy so that he can take the just filled prescription along with any old ones in the home.
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FUCK YOU. You don't know what you are even talking about.
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11/16/2013 12:38 AM
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Just peruse this search for doctors indicted in florida

Hundreds of doctors indicted for supplying the illicit
drug market by over-prescribing to mules who carry the
narcotics all over america for resale.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Just peruse this search for doctors indicted in florida

Hundreds of doctors indicted for supplying the illicit
drug market by over-prescribing to mules who carry the
narcotics all over america for resale.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12924768


So these few make it harder and more complicated for those doctors, who are legit.

Also, making it harder for those, who truly need pain meds and are being ridiculed.

Doctors are frightened and patients are frightened.

It is not only the FDA, who is making it unbearable for many, it is some doctors and drug mules.

The whole system is breaking down, and I do not know what the answer is.

Those people who are taking pain meds must be very careful in not abusing them.
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11/16/2013 02:00 AM
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I have been on long term narcotic pain management for over ten years. The dose has not escalated. I do not get high off the drugs. They just stop the pain enough that I can walk - which I could not do before we found a combo that worked.

Most docs use these drugs appropriately and carefully. Most patients getting their meds at a pharmacy are not drug addicts or abusers.

The relationship between a doctor and patient and interference in that decision making process is nothing short of criminal on the part of the FDA.

With all the drugs sold on the streets every day in America, you would think the FDA would come up with a better use of their time and money - but legitimate patients are a far easier target than are drug dealers on the streets.
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I have been on long term narcotic pain management for over ten years. The dose has not escalated. I do not get high off the drugs. They just stop the pain enough that I can walk - which I could not do before we found a combo that worked.

Most docs use these drugs appropriately and carefully. Most patients getting their meds at a pharmacy are not drug addicts or abusers.

The relationship between a doctor and patient and interference in that decision making process is nothing short of criminal on the part of the FDA.

With all the drugs sold on the streets every day in America, you would think the FDA would come up with a better use of their time and money - but legitimate patients are a far easier target than are drug dealers on the streets.
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Very well said!
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11/16/2013 05:04 AM
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have to say that as a strategy for keeping the citizenry down, withholding the most effective pain medications is a winner. sounds devilishly military doesn't it
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So heroin use mimics Parkinson disease...interesting info.
 Quoting: Krystal


Only a very specific synthetic heroin that somehow made its way into the drug supply.A synthetic that turned out to be as good for people as the synthetic pot "incense" products.

This ties in with the idea that TPTB might contaminate, or in this case, completely substitute other drugs for drugs of abuse in order to be able to experiment on expendable members of the population.

Not just adding toxins like Parquat to weed to "kill the dirty hippies", but a sort of illegal clinical trial.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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have to say that as a strategy for keeping the citizenry down, withholding the most effective pain medications is a winner. sounds devilishly military doesn't it
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Yes, it does.
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So heroin use mimics Parkinson disease...interesting info.
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Only a very specific synthetic heroin that somehow made its way into the drug supply.A synthetic that turned out to be as good for people as the synthetic pot "incense" products.

This ties in with the idea that TPTB might contaminate, or in this case, completely substitute other drugs for drugs of abuse in order to be able to experiment on expendable members of the population.

Not just adding toxins like Parquat to weed to "kill the dirty hippies", but a sort of illegal clinical trial.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


When I have heard of "street drugs" I always wonder how anyone can "do" them, due to the fact they could easily be contaminated.
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So heroin use mimics Parkinson disease...interesting info.
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Only a very specific synthetic heroin that somehow made its way into the drug supply.A synthetic that turned out to be as good for people as the synthetic pot "incense" products.

This ties in with the idea that TPTB might contaminate, or in this case, completely substitute other drugs for drugs of abuse in order to be able to experiment on expendable members of the population.

Not just adding toxins like Parquat to weed to "kill the dirty hippies", but a sort of illegal clinical trial.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


When I have heard of "street drugs" I always wonder how anyone can "do" them, due to the fact they could easily be contaminated.
 Quoting: Krystal

Watch someone else try it first. That's what friends are for but yea it can be a crap shoot, especially if you don't know the source. hf
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So heroin use mimics Parkinson disease...interesting info.
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Only a very specific synthetic heroin that somehow made its way into the drug supply.A synthetic that turned out to be as good for people as the synthetic pot "incense" products.

This ties in with the idea that TPTB might contaminate, or in this case, completely substitute other drugs for drugs of abuse in order to be able to experiment on expendable members of the population.

Not just adding toxins like Parquat to weed to "kill the dirty hippies", but a sort of illegal clinical trial.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


When I have heard of "street drugs" I always wonder how anyone can "do" them, due to the fact they could easily be contaminated.
 Quoting: Krystal

Watch someone else try it first. That's what friends are for but yea it can be a crap shoot, especially if you don't know the source. hf
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Yeah, I could never do street drugs. I am too scared of germs.
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[Yeah, I could never do street drugs. I am too scared of germs.
 Quoting: Krystal


One of the major causes of death from street heroin is not overdosing but heart infections from all the bacteria in the product.

Driving chronic pain patients to heroin is a great way to backdoor a Action T4


[link to www.heroinhelper.com]
Endocarditis is an infection of the inner lining of the heart. If left untreated, it is fatal. There are two disease types: Acute Infectious Endocarditis and Subacute Infectious Endocarditis. They are caused by different strains of bacteria and progress at different rates. The subacute form is most common. It is caused by a Streptoccus bacterium (the same thing that causes Strep Throat) called Streptoccus viridans. If untreated it will kill you within a year. The acute form of Endocarditis is caused by a couple of different bacteria: Staphylococcus aureus and Streptococcus hemolyticus. It will kill you in about a month.

The bacteria adhere to the inner lining of the heart--the endocardium. Once there, they grow. These bacterial colonies become very large and pieces of them break off and enter the circulatory system. These bacterial "particles" then get trapped in various places in the body. Because of this, you will have some indication that you should see a doctor. The symptoms are: Petechiae in the skin, blood in the urine, and a long-term low-grade fever
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[Yeah, I could never do street drugs. I am too scared of germs.
 Quoting: Krystal


One of the major causes of death from street heroin is not overdosing but heart infections from all the bacteria in the product.

Driving chronic pain patients to heroin is a great way to backdoor a Action T4


[link to www.heroinhelper.com]
Endocarditis is an infection of the inner lining of the heart. If left untreated, it is fatal. There are two disease types: Acute Infectious Endocarditis and Subacute Infectious Endocarditis. They are caused by different strains of bacteria and progress at different rates. The subacute form is most common. It is caused by a Streptoccus bacterium (the same thing that causes Strep Throat) called Streptoccus viridans. If untreated it will kill you within a year. The acute form of Endocarditis is caused by a couple of different bacteria: Staphylococcus aureus and Streptococcus hemolyticus. It will kill you in about a month.

The bacteria adhere to the inner lining of the heart--the endocardium. Once there, they grow. These bacterial colonies become very large and pieces of them break off and enter the circulatory system. These bacterial "particles" then get trapped in various places in the body. Because of this, you will have some indication that you should see a doctor. The symptoms are: Petechiae in the skin, blood in the urine, and a long-term low-grade fever
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 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


OMG...this is awful!





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