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"The unprecedented move" Unapproved vaccine to be used at Princeton for meningitis outbreak.

 
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Must be an outbreak of independent thinking at Princeton that needs to be nipped in the bud...

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That’s right because when it's Ivy League kids at risk the government is willing to not just bend the rules but shatter them.
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Like that is a good thing? They use experimental unapproved vaccines anyway...the only difference here is they're actually telling them. Informed consent is 100% mandatory, until it's not.
...like a splinter in your mind
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Type B meningitis is a rare strain of the bacterial disease that is not common in the United States. Symptoms include headache, fever, vomiting, and rashes. Left untreated, the disease can progress rapidly, and lead to serious complications such as hearing impairment, brain damage, or limb amputations or in the worse case death


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If they are told to shelter in place awaiting vaccine they should rampage.

Lets see the story repeated for an outbreak in the Senate.
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I see what you are doing there.
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Sounds like a good way to experiment on 8,000 people.
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Yeah, exactly.
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the "best and brightest" soon to be "dull bulbs"
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I saw that happen to an entire first year class one year at a high level university. I think it was the behavioural meds in their case though.
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the "best and brightest" soon to be "dull bulbs"
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That statement made me think of a cross between "Stepford Wives" & "The Walking Dead."
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This isn't about meningitis or protecting the kids of the elite. That is slight of hand. Get you to focus on that instead of what it is really about.

This is about setting a precedent of bypassing red tape and regular approval processes for vaccines to force or coerce them on a targeted "at risk" population.

If they tried to force an unapproved vaccine on food stamp recipients or public housing residents, there would be a huge outcry involving the NAACP, ACLU, MSM, and everyone who has ever thought twice about getting a flu vaccine.

Don't fall for their tricks!

They do it first with rich kids to make people resent the "special treatment" so the next time...

damned
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Just wait until Obamacare II (singlepayer) puts the government in charge of everything. They will approve and disapprove whatever they want any time they want.

Disagree with the government? You are sick and need "treatment".

Too many people in one area? You need a "vaccine".

Are you a senior citizen who needs life saving care? Sorry, your treatment has been disapproved.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Assuming that vaccines are in any way "good".
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Assuming that vaccines are in any way "good".
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They're approved over here and we're perfectly fine. ohyeah
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Poison Ivy





Naturally, they will need serfs, er students to step up and become a Ivy League guinea pig
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Just wait until Obamacare II (singlepayer) puts the government in charge of everything. They will approve and disapprove whatever they want any time they want.

Disagree with the government? You are sick and need "treatment".

Too many people in one area? You need a "vaccine".

Are you a senior citizen who needs life saving care? Sorry, your treatment has been disapproved.
 Quoting: Resister


Yes, seems they have killed plenty of elderly responding to an addy and the elderly person has no interest in living under tyranny and age...but killing them, claiming their incognizant and must be manhandled


denying their RIGHT to deny medical advice and NOT accept it...unless the "combative, not cognizant, etc.,."
then they taze them...equivalent to a heart attack...and they have killed people they were suppose to be helping


Insane


Nuremberg Trials

No experimental anything or any treatment is to be done on the uninformed or those refusing...

but govt emulate a BEAST now, not reason or sound mind
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I saw and posted a thread about this story yesterday, and I find it pretty disturbing on a whole bunch of levels.

First, they have this huge outbreak of a deadly infectious disease strain at a large, prestigious American institution and they keep it largely under wraps. I mean, this should be on everyone's radar. You don't mess around with meningitis.

Secondly, they are willing to bring in this unapproved vaccine and provide it for these student for what purpose? Either it is unapproved because it is dangerous and therefore shouldn't be given to ANY Americans (after all, if it were such a great preventative tool and safe, you'd think it would already be approved by our FDA which is only looking out for our best interests, right?) or it is an effective preventative measure against a deadly disease and is being kept from the general public because the FDA hasn't found the best way to make the most money from it yet.

Finally, we are seeing the introduction of a normally rare strain of meningitis into a large population of the group most at-risk for contracting and dying from the disease. Who knows how far this has spread and how many people are now at risk for this horrible disease. What are their plans for the general population that has been exposed to all of the students at Princeton? Why are they not being offered this vaccine due to their close proximity and the deadly nature of this disease?

Something seems way off about this.
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This isn't about meningitis or protecting the kids of the elite. That is slight of hand. Get you to focus on that instead of what it is really about.

This is about setting a precedent of bypassing red tape and regular approval processes for vaccines to force or coerce them on a targeted "at risk" population.

If they tried to force an unapproved vaccine on food stamp recipients or public housing residents, there would be a huge outcry involving the NAACP, ACLU, MSM, and everyone who has ever thought twice about getting a flu vaccine.

Don't fall for their tricks!

They do it first with rich kids to make people resent the "special treatment" so the next time...

damned
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applause2

ratdance
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This. Ever hear of a meningitis pandemic in a developed country? No...you say. Because it don't fucken happen. This is just another fear mongering $$ making for big pharma and their friends they pay off to get us sheeple to fall for it.

Like the HPV vac....104 types of HPV but only "4" that "May" cause cancer at some point in your life. So they push us to vaccinate all young girls , before many of them have even had sex...which btw is how the cell is transmitted. Add to that the environment of that area and it's ever changing flora...you got a bunch of people who talk like they know shit but actually don't. But go ahead sheeple ....trust.....trust...it's your $$ they want not a cure.

These vaccines should be a choice. Who is the one in danger? The vaccinated or the unvaccinated?
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Just wait until Obamacare II (singlepayer) puts the government in charge of everything. They will approve and disapprove whatever they want any time they want.

Disagree with the government? You are sick and need "treatment".

Too many people in one area? You need a "vaccine".

Are you a senior citizen who needs life saving care? Sorry, your treatment has been disapproved.
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We are already on our way and have been far before nobAmacare came along. rick perry and HPV= mandatory executive decision. Big pharma cannot be held accountable nor sued for damages done...thank you very much.
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So does this mean that when something is 'unapproved by the FDA' it is actually the 'good stuff' and the stuff that is 'approved' will leave you fucked up? If you are a healthy adult that may not work so they make the children fully dependent (India like vaccine)to stop the healthy ones from thinking.
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11/16/2013 01:14 PM
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So does this mean that when something is 'unapproved by the FDA' it is actually the 'good stuff' and the stuff that is 'approved' will leave you fucked up? If you are a healthy adult that may not work so they make the children fully dependent (India like vaccine)to stop the healthy ones from thinking.
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Aspirin would never make it to approval if it were discovered today.
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Chrit  (OP)

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11/16/2013 01:20 PM
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Yes I understand the issues, but no way they would do this for a regular community college or the like.


Pin this, tear it up and watch Big-O care kill the poor meanwhile.
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Stopping an epidemic no matter where it is, is critical. I share your feelings on Os deadly embrace, but I have a problem with your class warfare words.

Besides those people getting the vaccines may be very much worse off getting them. They can keep their damned needles and O's skeleton fingers away from me.
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Sorry I grew up rich and retired before 30, I went to a school where a friend totaled his first car a $300,000 dollar Mercedes and had another one the very next day.

I know how the system works, they would not do this for any other school in the country, they would force the school to close for a period of time. But to much money in the school in government grants to close it.

I do think the one Ac is also correct, follow the money, and who are the investors.

We have people in pain or worse getting denied legitimate treatments to save what amounts to pennies to the insurance companies yet they can completely break rules for the Ivy league schools.

I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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11/21/2013 08:54 PM
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Lets see if they get the same treatment, we taking bets?


Snip; A new case of meningitis was reported at a New Jersey university late Wednesday, raising worries that an outbreak of the potentially deadly infection may have spread beyond Princeton, where seven people have been sickened since March.

An administrator at Monmouth University in West Long Branch, N.J., was hospitalized after becoming "gravely ill," officials at the school reported in a notice to the campus community Thursday. The school, which has nearly 4,800 undergraduate students, is located about 45 miles from Princeton University.


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