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that's, it ive had it with you.
you hear what you want to hear.
even though I proved the Judaism is not behind modern Israel you keep blubbering about this.
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You have me convinced of that, who is the world going to believe more, me or you and forgive me if I missed it but the view oik Jews that are like minded to you don't seem to be making the news as much as the ones currently in control of Israel. Do you even know what they saw wrong with UN 181 other that it would have been more expensive to buy the land and it would have taken longer but the same thing would have been according to the map. Or is that issue, the original map submitted by the Rothschild bankers to Lord Balfor had no place set aside for non-Jews.
I'm pretty comfortable listening to this Jew cover that last century, none of it has to do with your take on the situation.


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you can hear the damn truth from me.
but it is evident you are not a good listener so ill keep it short and leave it up to you.

modern Israel = uninformed unawekened jewish population which is controlled by a gang of masonic elite, who are playing for the globalists team.
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and I for once can back it up with scriptures, which I don't use by picking a bunch of random quotes and saying untrue stuff about em...


A prophecy, the word of Adonai concerning Isra’el — here is the message from Adonai, who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundation of the earth and formed the spirit inside human beings:


2 “I will make Yerushalayim a cup
that will stagger the surrounding peoples.
Even Y’hudah will be caught up
in the siege against Yerushalayim.
it says even yhuda will be part of the siege against Jerusalem, and that is exactly whats going on right now. open Israeli MSM its all about war against Judaism and the traditions of Jerusalem. that is because the Zionist regime is how masonic Jesuit globalists infiltrated the jews. and they now rule the jews.
we can find those globalists in psalms 2

Why are the nations in an uproar,
the peoples grumbling in vain?
2 The earth’s kings are taking positions,
leaders conspiring together,
against Adonai
and his anointed.
3 They cry, “Let’s break their fetters!
Let’s throw off their chains!”


4 He who sits in heaven laughs;
Adonai looks at them in derision.
5 Then in his anger he rebukes them,
terrifies them in his fury.
6 “I myself have installed my king
on Tziyon, my holy mountain.”
the globalists have taken control on Judah, through Zionism, and will cause Judah to actually fight against Jerusalem, they will set a jew, against his brother jew, and we had already seen that when the IDF sworn to protect jews, actually deported jews by force! from the gaza strip.

When that day comes, I will make Yerushalayim
a heavy stone for all the peoples.
All who try to lift it will hurt themselves,
and all the earth’s nations will be massed against her.that is gog and magog. even the IDF will be among the armies of gog. because the idf is controlled by the conspirators.
4 When that day comes,” says Adonai,
“I will strike all the horses with panic
and their riders with madness;
I will keep watch over Y’hudah,but the jewish soldiers fighting against their motherland will be watched over by god, and not be harmed.
but I will strike blind all the horses of the peoples.but the armies of the nations will be strack.
5 The leaders of Y’hudah will say to themselves,
‘Those living in Yerushalayim are my strength
through Adonai-Tzva’ot their God.’and those jews who betrayed their nation, masonic jews and Zionist jews, will realize their mistake.
6 When that day comes,
I will make the leaders of Y’hudah
like a blazing fire pan in a pile of wood,
like a fiery torch among sheaves of grain;
they will devour all the surrounding peoples,
on the right and on the left.after the leaders of Judah, come to their senses, they will fight on behalf of god, and not against him, and he will cause them to make greate devastation in the camp of gog.
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3 They cry, “Let’s break their fetters!
Let’s throw off their chains!”

sounds familiar...
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Here's an article about Roman emperor Claudius complaining that Jews were trying to open the flood gates of immigration. This was in the first century. Jews have been doing the same things forever.
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Here's an article about Roman emperor Claudius complaining that Jews were trying to open the flood gates of immigration. This was in the first century. Jews have been doing the same things forever.
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Thread: Jews push "multiculturalism" everywhere BUT ISRAEL...WHY?
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how can you believe this shit when you know rome used to conduct mass transfers of populations between the empire states...

the Zionist regime is enforcing multiculturalism on isreal using the almost 1 million fake jews Russians, and constant flowing of African "refugees"
not to mention Israel is very multicultural since day one, a mix of muslims Christians druzes and jews who are multicultural among themselves...

you are severly uninformed.

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stop with this stupid nonsense already. the NT is not authoritative.
and if you are going to post OT explain what you mean and why you think it is relevant, to your theory.

jews are going to be punished for not keeping the law.
gentiles are going to be punished for trying to control jews, blaming them for no reason, and hurting them for no reason.

now you fucks better listen to me, your whore church that is an enterprise of the emperors for global domination, has always blamed jews.
it is the modus operndi of the church, it started in the NT and has been used as a tactic for over 2000 years.
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If my political comments have you a bit jittery this topic should not be ignored as this is one where I am even more sure that there is one correct view and a little piece of OT Scripture in Jer:31 is going to only be the first point your are going to be drawing blanks when looking for any sort of answer.

What does authoritative even mean? I'm trying to take two books out because they don't belong there and you are insisting they do. John the Baptist could have been in this group, yes or no? Yes makes that a dangerous answer to the current understanding of the OT, one of many changes that would also come as a result of a bit of new knowledge concerning Christ and when He is going to collect the remaining OT prophecy verses.

If you want authoritative to mean who has been at this longer in terms of being an expert then if I compared myself to the Rabbi speaking in a vid that started a thread just recently then clearly his knowledge about the OT far outstrips mine. The mustard-seed tree would fit here, to know the tree you would have to climb the trunk all the way to the top and come back down and then you would have some knowledge of the mustard tree. The Rabbli is an expert so he has not only been up and down the trunk many times he has also been to the ends of the branches, or at least further out than I have been in this case but that does not mean the branches do not go further than he has been. I would speak Yiddish by the end of the journey (making conversations go faster but it wouldn't increase the accuracy) and sometimes the trunk is all you need when the task is to map out the whole forest and then go back and do the branches.

In terms of knowledge about God that would make him the 'meat' in a few ways, the OT is a huge book by any standards, it is so inter

M't:27:52:
And the graves were opened;
and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

If you (being knowledgeable Jew in OT Judaism) have the bulk of the wisdom about God then why do I know more about the mechanics of it than you do? That isn't bragging, I have access to the Hebrew OT that is fucking near perfect to the one Moses gave out so I have all of that at my fingertips as raw data. (meat) I also have the 'little book' that also has a few pieces of knowledge in it. In short a NT reader knows who Jesus is and he knows who Christ is and there is something called salvation that come as part of a plan. The details of the plan will never be revealed if you read the NT alone for a long time the plan will be no more detailed than that. Once you start referencing the OT that is like a whole table of meat and you have a big jug of milk. What do you think happens next?

I try to post enough to show you which tree in the forest I'm climbing. The NT can be looked at as a bramble bush that to are beating you way through yet climb the right tree and the brush turns into a maze with a path that is easy to follow and it has a starting point and an ending point. Not such a bad thing as you get an overview and when that part comes up again the parts not covered get covered.

That also means as soon as you have a question pop up ask it and leave the other questions until you have no more about that issue. Text is great for that, not so great in a live conversations that is viewed as being an interruption. It's a topic that isn't going to be solved by the end of the thread. My hand to go with the verse below is about 24 references to any OT reference to 'day of the Lord', right there if we didn't stop and cover each one to some extent then neither one of us is very serious about understand what that term means. I'm also cheating because I have done it and that makes me smarter than somebody that hasn't. If you have trouble swallowing that I have some milk.

Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

The last part of your post that I didn't bold any part of need more info before I will comment as it could be a rather long topic if punishment and OT law is the topic. Even promoting that God tried to make things easy for the Jews in the upcoming scattering into the nations that was coming up as a fulfillment of a prophecy is going to be met with resistance. The law, tell me how much the first part of Acts:10 messes that up in terms of OR law and if put into practice way back when would the lives of Jews be better of or worse off in those centuries. If it was ignored to keep the community intact while in the Nations (via forced rather than on a mission to teach about God) then it shows a lack of faith in God that He could remember who was to be included in the resurrection of Eze:37. The last supper was the new covenant that replaced the slaughtered passover sacrifice into a meat that was part of a religious ceremony so it shouldn't be eaten (meaning don't kill it in the first place) but rather do the OT bread associated with Passover. You can throw in saving the best wine for last also just because bread and wine are the two part of the remembrance meal.
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Here's an article about Roman emperor Claudius complaining that Jews were trying to open the flood gates of immigration. This was in the first century. Jews have been doing the same things forever.
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Thread: Jews push "multiculturalism" everywhere BUT ISRAEL...WHY?
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how can you believe this shit when you know rome used to conduct mass transfers of populations between the empire states...

the Zionist regime is enforcing multiculturalism on isreal using the almost 1 million fake jews Russians, and constant flowing of African "refugees"
not to mention Israel is very multicultural since day one, a mix of muslims Christians druzes and jews who are multicultural among themselves...

you are severly uninformed.
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There's 19 pages, so far, in said thread. I don't think a couple of sentences will negate its effect at this point.
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stop with this stupid nonsense already. the NT is not authoritative.
and if you are going to post OT explain what you mean and why you think it is relevant, to your theory.

jews are going to be punished for not keeping the law.
gentiles are going to be punished for trying to control jews, blaming them for no reason, and hurting them for no reason.

now you fucks better listen to me, your whore church that is an enterprise of the emperors for global domination, has always blamed jews.
it is the modus operndi of the church, it started in the NT and has been used as a tactic for over 2000 years.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 10

If my political comments have you a bit jittery this topic should not be ignored as this is one where I am even more sure that there is one correct view and a little piece of OT Scripture in Jer:31 is going to only be the first point your are going to be drawing blanks when looking for any sort of answer.

What does authoritative even mean? I'm trying to take two books out because they don't belong there and you are insisting they do. John the Baptist could have been in this group, yes or no? Yes makes that a dangerous answer to the current understanding of the OT, one of many changes that would also come as a result of a bit of new knowledge concerning Christ and when He is going to collect the remaining OT prophecy verses.

If you want authoritative to mean who has been at this longer in terms of being an expert then if I compared myself to the Rabbi speaking in a vid that started a thread just recently then clearly his knowledge about the OT far outstrips mine. The mustard-seed tree would fit here, to know the tree you would have to climb the trunk all the way to the top and come back down and then you would have some knowledge of the mustard tree. The Rabbli is an expert so he has not only been up and down the trunk many times he has also been to the ends of the branches, or at least further out than I have been in this case but that does not mean the branches do not go further than he has been. I would speak Yiddish by the end of the journey (making conversations go faster but it wouldn't increase the accuracy) and sometimes the trunk is all you need when the task is to map out the whole forest and then go back and do the branches.

In terms of knowledge about God that would make him the 'meat' in a few ways, the OT is a huge book by any standards, it is so inter

M't:27:52:
And the graves were opened;
and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

If you (being knowledgeable Jew in OT Judaism) have the bulk of the wisdom about God then why do I know more about the mechanics of it than you do? That isn't bragging, I have access to the Hebrew OT that is fucking near perfect to the one Moses gave out so I have all of that at my fingertips as raw data. (meat) I also have the 'little book' that also has a few pieces of knowledge in it. In short a NT reader knows who Jesus is and he knows who Christ is and there is something called salvation that come as part of a plan. The details of the plan will never be revealed if you read the NT alone for a long time the plan will be no more detailed than that. Once you start referencing the OT that is like a whole table of meat and you have a big jug of milk. What do you think happens next?

I try to post enough to show you which tree in the forest I'm climbing. The NT can be looked at as a bramble bush that to are beating you way through yet climb the right tree and the brush turns into a maze with a path that is easy to follow and it has a starting point and an ending point. Not such a bad thing as you get an overview and when that part comes up again the parts not covered get covered.

That also means as soon as you have a question pop up ask it and leave the other questions until you have no more about that issue. Text is great for that, not so great in a live conversations that is viewed as being an interruption. It's a topic that isn't going to be solved by the end of the thread. My hand to go with the verse below is about 24 references to any OT reference to 'day of the Lord', right there if we didn't stop and cover each one to some extent then neither one of us is very serious about understand what that term means. I'm also cheating because I have done it and that makes me smarter than somebody that hasn't. If you have trouble swallowing that I have some milk.

Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

The last part of your post that I didn't bold any part of need more info before I will comment as it could be a rather long topic if punishment and OT law is the topic. Even promoting that God tried to make things easy for the Jews in the upcoming scattering into the nations that was coming up as a fulfillment of a prophecy is going to be met with resistance. The law, tell me how much the first part of Acts:10 messes that up in terms of OR law and if put into practice way back when would the lives of Jews be better of or worse off in those centuries. If it was ignored to keep the community intact while in the Nations (via forced rather than on a mission to teach about God) then it shows a lack of faith in God that He could remember who was to be included in the resurrection of Eze:37. The last supper was the new covenant that replaced the slaughtered passover sacrifice into a meat that was part of a religious ceremony so it shouldn't be eaten (meaning don't kill it in the first place) but rather do the OT bread associated with Passover. You can throw in saving the best wine for last also just because bread and wine are the two part of the remembrance meal.
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im not even sure you understand what you just wrote.

if you think that because the NT has a bunch of terms that were used in the OT means they are compatible - your wrong.
you can obviously try and compare the NT and OT and combine them into your precpective of reality... but that would give you a false image.
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my bad... 9 pages... But still an important, eye-opening thread. See vid in OP.
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my bad... 9 pages... But still an important, eye-opening thread. See vid in OP.
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bunch of bullshit and same old tactic of blaming the jews.

I bet ptb are laughing their ass off when you fools actually believe this.

an evil roman emperor, drunk, womanizer, murderer and warlord, blaming jews for multiculturalism in the empire, while he has thousands of slaves brought from other countries...

come on, how stupid can you be?>!?

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you can hear the damn truth from me.
but it is evident you are not a good listener so ill keep it short and leave it up to you.

modern Israel = uninformed unawekened jewish population which is controlled by a gang of masonic elite, who are playing for the globalists team.
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I like his political view, that would mean with a simple man like myself that I would be somewhat against view that were radically different than his. The only other Jew I have listened to is Ben Freedman and his view point is from 1960, they both appear to be honest men, perhaps that is the drawing card rather than them being Jewish.

This part is true but don't let it hold you back. Due to an exposure to a lot of mold a few months backs mys short term memory blinks on and off so while I may appear to be a poor listener it just means I have to review the material a few more times and then it takes me a bit longer to type it out.

Hopefully the speed will increase a bit more as time passages, if not who cares as the accuracy is still there

Does it make a difference that it is your name they are smearing?

You knowledge would be helpful here. The may birthday at the UN would be connected to the Rothschild plan that began sometime in the 1880's. 70 years would fit as a possible anniversary date could it not? If so then could 70 years in the future also be applied to that May 14, 1948 date? (5th of Iyar) Ben Freedman covers the bullshit that went on, boil it away and all total 100M people got killed so the Rothschild Bankers could create their version of OT Israel. I doubt very much 1948 was the end of that plan when ratchet'=-up the bodies and they can come out being called gods.
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didn't watch the vid, but Bernanke is a stooge, he gets orders.
keep climbing up the ladder, and you will get to the pope and his seat.
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you can hear the damn truth from me.
but it is evident you are not a good listener so ill keep it short and leave it up to you.

modern Israel = uninformed unawekened jewish population which is controlled by a gang of masonic elite, who are playing for the globalists team.
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I like his political view, that would mean with a simple man like myself that I would be somewhat against view that were radically different than his. The only other Jew I have listened to is Ben Freedman and his view point is from 1960, they both appear to be honest men, perhaps that is the drawing card rather than them being Jewish.

This part is true but don't let it hold you back. Due to an exposure to a lot of mold a few months backs mys short term memory blinks on and off so while I may appear to be a poor listener it just means I have to review the material a few more times and then it takes me a bit longer to type it out.

Hopefully the speed will increase a bit more as time passages, if not who cares as the accuracy is still there

Does it make a difference that it is your name they are smearing?

You knowledge would be helpful here. The may birthday at the UN would be connected to the Rothschild plan that began sometime in the 1880's. 70 years would fit as a possible anniversary date could it not? If so then could 70 years in the future also be applied to that May 14, 1948 date? (5th of Iyar) Ben Freedman covers the bullshit that went on, boil it away and all total 100M people got killed so the Rothschild Bankers could create their version of OT Israel. I doubt very much 1948 was the end of that plan when ratchet'=-up the bodies and they can come out being called gods.
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dah... I know Israel is a rothschilds pawn... I just hate it when people assume the rotschilds (which I can argue and probably win, they are not even jews) answer to rabbis who follow some Talmudic conspiracy for world domination.

the rothschilds answer the orders they are part of, and those orders answer their headquarters in the Vatican.
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didn't watch the vid, but Bernanke is a stooge, he gets orders.
keep climbing up the ladder, and you will get to the pope and his seat.
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You didn't watch the vid, but your offering your opinion on it like it's fact? Even the first 5-7 minutes is all that would be needed to see where it was going.

I am a Christian but not a Catholic. I do not believe that the Catholic church has anywhere near the power they used to. I'm sure that they wished that they still did tho.
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didn't watch the vid, but Bernanke is a stooge, he gets orders.
keep climbing up the ladder, and you will get to the pope and his seat.
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You didn't watch the vid, but your offering your opinion on it like it's fact? Even the first 5-7 minutes is all that would be needed to see where it was going.

I am a Christian but not a Catholic. I do not believe that the Catholic church has anywhere near the power they used to. I'm sure that they wished that they still did tho.
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i don't blame catholics for what the church is doing.
you'd be surprised to know how much power the church has.
they own the UN. and every other major world power in the world.
the organization web that goes cross bank-politics-industry ultimately funnels to the Vatican.
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im not even sure you understand what you just wrote.

if you think that because the NT has a bunch of terms that were used in the OT means they are compatible - your wrong.
you can obviously try and compare the NT and OT and combine them into your precpective of reality... but that would give you a false image.
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lol, I can prove that I do by being able to expand on any point in the post, yet you find it confusing.

I'm afraid that is just what I'm saying. The whole Bible is one document given to us by God so it fits the 'warn the ones that will be affected' rule that God has for Himself.

Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

As for my claim that is easy enough to prove or disprove, I'll go with they all reference the same event in time and that is either the wholesale destruction of sinners of saving people for eternity, except the one from Jeremiah.

Both of those are maxed out on the day the 7th trump sounds. Revelation says the lamb has 7 eyes, that mean in Revelation He is described as being part of 7 events. The vials in Re:16 represent death, the book in Re:10 represents the book of like for the 1,000 year reign that prepares a people to meat the God from Ge:1:1. That is a different topic, one of many that has to be considered before the 'paint brush' can be put down. I'm convinced that God has kept the text I use as being as accurate as it ever was. Daniel and Angels would have sorted out the OT and the writers of the NT had the Holy Spirit as a companion so both are just the way they were intended. That is what the Moses oral tradition taught 'us', exact phrases matter.

Does this sound like the day the kingdoms of the earth changes owners? I go with yes, same day the two witnesses are resurrected. To be fair this is just part of that passage and to do it justice the whole thing should be covered to see if more 'exact phrases' can be used to 'connect dots'.

Isa:2:2-5:
And it shall come to pass in the last days,
that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains,
and shall be exalted above the hills;
and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say,
Come ye,
and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths:
for out of Zion shall go forth the law,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

And he shall judge among the nations,
and shall rebuke many people:
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruninghooks:
nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
O house of Jacob,
come ye,
and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

The last bolded phrase leads to two mote OT refernces that fall fight into place, I'll even post them in detail if you can't see that. Be warned any English text other then the 1611 will not work.
Here is one of the best of all, know how much the 7 seals are mentioned yet God is hardly ever the rider and the Holy Spirit is never the white horse yet take one verse from the OT that is worded a certain way (intentionally) and it open up a whole basket of meaning that can be described by using a selective verse. The rule that is via a 'rod of iron' mean the rules given at the start never changes. That is also day 1 that the law of Re:21 comes to be in effect, once men an angels became 'family' Adam also came to be under that law.

Re:6:2:
And I saw,
and behold a white horse:
and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him:
and he went forth conquering,
and to conquer.

Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

1 of the 7 times Jesus appears as an angel in Heaven with power are the verses below. The coals should be the same thing that Saul experienced.

Re:8:3-5:
And another angel came and stood at the altar,
having a golden censer;
and there was given unto him much incense,
that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense,
which came with the prayers of the saints,
ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
And the angel took the censer,
and filled it with fire of the altar,
and cast it into the earth:
and there were voices,
and thunderings,
and lightnings,
and an earthquake.
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im not even sure you understand what you just wrote.

if you think that because the NT has a bunch of terms that were used in the OT means they are compatible - your wrong.
you can obviously try and compare the NT and OT and combine them into your precpective of reality... but that would give you a false image.
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lol, I can prove that I do by being able to expand on any point in the post, yet you find it confusing.

I'm afraid that is just what I'm saying. The whole Bible is one document given to us by God so it fits the 'warn the ones that will be affected' rule that God has for Himself.

Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

As for my claim that is easy enough to prove or disprove, I'll go with they all reference the same event in time and that is either the wholesale destruction of sinners of saving people for eternity, except the one from Jeremiah.

Both of those are maxed out on the day the 7th trump sounds. Revelation says the lamb has 7 eyes, that mean in Revelation He is described as being part of 7 events. The vials in Re:16 represent death, the book in Re:10 represents the book of like for the 1,000 year reign that prepares a people to meat the God from Ge:1:1. That is a different topic, one of many that has to be considered before the 'paint brush' can be put down. I'm convinced that God has kept the text I use as being as accurate as it ever was. Daniel and Angels would have sorted out the OT and the writers of the NT had the Holy Spirit as a companion so both are just the way they were intended. That is what the Moses oral tradition taught 'us', exact phrases matter.

Does this sound like the day the kingdoms of the earth changes owners? I go with yes, same day the two witnesses are resurrected. To be fair this is just part of that passage and to do it justice the whole thing should be covered to see if more 'exact phrases' can be used to 'connect dots'.

Isa:2:2-5:
And it shall come to pass in the last days,
that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains,
and shall be exalted above the hills;
and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say,
Come ye,
and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths:
for out of Zion shall go forth the law,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

And he shall judge among the nations,
and shall rebuke many people:
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruninghooks:
nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
O house of Jacob,
come ye,
and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

The last bolded phrase leads to two mote OT refernces that fall fight into place, I'll even post them in detail if you can't see that. Be warned any English text other then the 1611 will not work.
Here is one of the best of all, know how much the 7 seals are mentioned yet God is hardly ever the rider and the Holy Spirit is never the white horse yet take one verse from the OT that is worded a certain way (intentionally) and it open up a whole basket of meaning that can be described by using a selective verse. The rule that is via a 'rod of iron' mean the rules given at the start never changes. That is also day 1 that the law of Re:21 comes to be in effect, once men an angels became 'family' Adam also came to be under that law.

Re:6:2:
And I saw,
and behold a white horse:
and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him:
and he went forth conquering,
and to conquer.

Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

1 of the 7 times Jesus appears as an angel in Heaven with power are the verses below. The coals should be the same thing that Saul experienced.

Re:8:3-5:
And another angel came and stood at the altar,
having a golden censer;
and there was given unto him much incense,
that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense,
which came with the prayers of the saints,
ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
And the angel took the censer,
and filled it with fire of the altar,
and cast it into the earth:
and there were voices,
and thunderings,
and lightnings,
and an earthquake.
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you are doing the same thing again.
you take good OT prophecies and claim revs expounds upon them...
revs is not a prophecy, it is a bunch of words and sentaces written by scholars who tried to use memes they read in the OT.
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Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

Isaiah is talking about himself here, not jesus.
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i don't blame catholics for what the church is doing.
you'd be surprised to know how much power the church has.
they own the UN. and every other major world power in the world.
the organization web that goes cross bank-politics-industry ultimately funnels to the Vatican.
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So the RCC wrote a book that tells how sinful they are in calling somebody father other than God and your own parent? That is so sneaky. The fact they reject the original Greek and original Hebrew for their 'improved version' is even an OT prophecy being fulfilled.

Re:2:5:
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen,
and repent,
and do the first works;
or else I will come unto thee quickly,
and will remove thy candlestick out of his place,
except thou repent.

M't:22:36-38:
Master,
which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him,
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul,
and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.

Da:8:9-12:
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
Yea,
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.



It's one thing to twist the truth with a new set of Scriptures, it is quite another to sneak back into the OT and mess with Hebrew prophecy, rather than accept what it plainly says.

TPTB are most likely saying the 737 crash in Russia is nothing like the one on 9/11/ one was 3 deg off vertical and the flaps were down. lol

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Da:8:9-12:
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
Yea,
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.

really?? I mean really??!! how can you not see the OT is prophesying that the romans would come, mess with scriptures as they did, by creating the NT.
selling it as the new truth, NT!! which I like to call not true and not testament.
and they would even practice this abomination and they will prosper by it!!!

if that doesn't scream church and cristianity... well it DOES
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Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

Isaiah is talking about himself here, not jesus.
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That's how OT Saints delivered messages from God and Christ, they then wrote it down and the matter closed The prophecy will be fulfilled by Christ and quite often the destruction comes with a few words, quotes if you will.


Christ.
Jer:4:28:
For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.


Christ
Isa:34:5:
For my sword shall be bathed in heaven:
behold,
it shall come down upon Idumea,
and upon the people of my curse,
to judgment.


Christ
Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold, my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
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Da:8:9-12:
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
Yea,
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.

really?? I mean really??!! how can you not see the OT is prophesying that the romans would come, mess with scriptures as they did, by creating the NT.
selling it as the new truth, NT!! which I like to call not true and not testament.
and they would even practice this abomination and they will prosper by it!!!

if that doesn't scream church and cristianity... well it DOES
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Those Romans are starting to impress me. They snuck into the Temple, learned Hebrew and enough history to alter a few words in an otherwise almost obscure passage just so they could take control of people that were already paying them any taxes they demanded. I feel so naive.

or it didn't happen like that at all and in 300AD the RCC was still teaching as taught and suddenly in comes a foreign Bible in Latin and suddenly a lot of user fees hit the Church while being bumped up to tax-exempt status. How is that any different from when the money-changers took over from the Staff that was loyal to Moses?

Yes I get the part about the NT, you never dealt with the issue that the Gospel of John and Revelation being written by a disciple of John the Baptist. Perhaps this will calm you down so you don't end up doing everything in caps.

As far as truth they fell, you do know that is what the prophecy says right?
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Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

Isaiah is talking about himself here, not jesus.
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That's how OT Saints delivered messages from God and Christ, they then wrote it down and the matter closed The prophecy will be fulfilled by Christ and quite often the destruction comes with a few words, quotes if you will.


Christ.
Jer:4:28:
For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.


Christ
Isa:34:5:
For my sword shall be bathed in heaven:
behold,
it shall come down upon Idumea,
and upon the people of my curse,
to judgment.


Christ
Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold, my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
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no, that's G-d.
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Da:8:9-12:
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
Yea,
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.

really?? I mean really??!! how can you not see the OT is prophesying that the romans would come, mess with scriptures as they did, by creating the NT.
selling it as the new truth, NT!! which I like to call not true and not testament.
and they would even practice this abomination and they will prosper by it!!!

if that doesn't scream church and cristianity... well it DOES
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Those Romans are starting to impress me. They snuck into the Temple, learned Hebrew and enough history to alter a few words in an otherwise almost obscure passage just so they could take control of people that were already paying them any taxes they demanded. I feel so naive.

or it didn't happen like that at all and in 300AD the RCC was still teaching as taught and suddenly in comes a foreign Bible in Latin and suddenly a lot of user fees hit the Church while being bumped up to tax-exempt status. How is that any different from when the money-changers took over from the Staff that was loyal to Moses?

Yes I get the part about the NT, you never dealt with the issue that the Gospel of John and Revelation being written by a disciple of John the Baptist. Perhaps this will calm you down so you don't end up doing everything in caps.

As far as truth they fell, you do know that is what the prophecy says right?
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wow... how old are you, really?
the hellenists supplied much study matireal about Judaism to the romans, you really believe romans didn't not employ scholars, who studied jewish history and scriptures??? you are naïve, and you cant see reality because you don't want to see it.

the greek ot and nt is foreign, they tweeked with it once, they don't mind tweeking it again.

the empyreal family was involved in the church from day one.

why should I care for john the Baptist... the NT was written by roman scholars. who trampled the truth and created their own truth, just as Daniel prophesized.
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you seem to be obsessed, with the money changers.

just so you know, the temple was under the control of the saducees, who sold themselves to the romans because of their corruption.

this is why the righteous Pharisees were against the saducees in the first place.
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you seem to be obsessed, with the money changers.

just so you know, the temple was under the control of the saducees, who sold themselves to the romans because of their corruption.

this is why the righteous Pharisees were against the saducees in the first place.
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Just trying to find one term that would cover the ones in control of the Temple dating back to when Jeremiah was almost killed, Zacharias was, so was Stephen after the cross.

Jesus threw the money-changers out twice, He never once threw out a Priest, even the ones in Matthew:23.
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you seem to be obsessed, with the money changers.

just so you know, the temple was under the control of the saducees, who sold themselves to the romans because of their corruption.

this is why the righteous Pharisees were against the saducees in the first place.
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Just trying to find one term that would cover the ones in control of the Temple dating back to when Jeremiah was almost killed, Zacharias was, so was Stephen after the cross.

Jesus threw the money-changers out twice, He never once threw out a Priest, even the ones in Matthew:23.
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you do realize the nt jesus is a meme created by the romans. don't expect me to view the claims of jesus not messing with priests as factual event.

the tanach teaches us that even kings were villians, and priests as well.
what would it help you to prove they were evil? (not generalizing). when it is already proven.
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no, that's G-d.
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Now you are catching on, Christ is sent to gather some on the morning of the day of the LORD and at the end of the new day Satan is sent to the lake and the GWT then beings at the end of 'that whole day'.

Jesus was shown how to resurrect somebody in the NT, Christ was shown that in the one resurrection that took place in the OT.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.

God alone can accomplish these things.

Re:21:4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.

Isa:25:8:
He will swallow up death in victory;
and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces;
and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth:
for the LORD hath spoken it.
Isa:25:9:
And it shall be said in that day,
Lo,
this is our God;
we have waited for him,
and he will save us:
this is the LORD;
we have waited for him,
we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.
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no, that's G-d.
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Now you are catching on, Christ is sent to gather some on the morning of the day of the LORD and at the end of the new day Satan is sent to the lake and the GWT then beings at the end of 'that whole day'.

Jesus was shown how to resurrect somebody in the NT, Christ was shown that in the one resurrection that took place in the OT.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.

God alone can accomplish these things.

Re:21:4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.

Isa:25:8:
He will swallow up death in victory;
and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces;
and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth:
for the LORD hath spoken it.
Isa:25:9:
And it shall be said in that day,
Lo,
this is our God;
we have waited for him,
and he will save us:
this is the LORD;
we have waited for him,
we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.
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wow bravo, you managed to show how revelations like to copy from the real prophecies... that surely means its inspired.
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