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Four Objects Follow Comet Ison - Ufos? Debris? | |
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| Perseus -]+[- (OP) User ID: 50073978 Greece11/16/2013 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry OP, if you place a ruler across those objects they all line up - exactly. Its probably one object in the foreground that moved across during exposure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44447324 maybe...but if your are right...that means... that again this one object follow comet ison.... and the fact that it shows like four objects, means that... its pulsating light who again means definitely not debris but a ufo following the comet making also a side motion |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50016578 Australia11/16/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +[- 50073978:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzY1OTI2XzI3QTNFQjJG] Quoting: Perseus -sorry OP, if you place a ruler across those objects they all line up - exactly. Its probably one object in the foreground that moved across during exposure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44447324 maybe...but if your are right...that means... that again this one object follow comet ison.... and the fact that it shows like four objects, means that... its pulsating light who again means definitely not debris but a ufo following the comet making also a side motion Calling Occupants....ISONITES  |
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Hydra  User ID: 50089944  Germany11/16/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +[- 50073978:MV8yNDEyMzE4X0ZENDM5NTZD] Quoting: Perseus -Ok, this is the photo from Spaceweather.com [link to spaceweathergallery.com] (click on image to see better the objects) The vertical lines you see are stars but because of the telescope moving following comet ison, and long exposure, they look like vertical lines lines who show the direction of telescopes motion comet look steady because telescope is locked on him *But*, if you look over the comet ison left and right you will see *Four* horizontal small lines + (if you are related with astrophotography your hair must be already up) The fact that these horizontal lines are *not* vertical means one and only thing... They are following comet ison, and for that reason they look steady in the vertical axis because the telescope who follow comet, follow also the objects on the comets path Comet Ison have *Four* Companions following him (all four with same speed) in * Formation * The fact that these objects look like horizontal lines show their motion in relation with the comet (side motion probably to the right and maybe in orbit around comet) Debris? or (because of the formation) indeligent driven objects (ufos) ? No companions - Iridium flare "An "Iridium flare" is a combination of natural and human-made elements: sunlight and a satellite antenna. Iridium satellites' (there are a great many of them in orbit to provide satellite telephone service in remote areas of the globe) Main Mission Antennas catch and reflect sunlight when not in the Earth's shadow. Since satellite orbits are precisely tracked and the angle of the antennas well-known, it is possible to predict with an incredible degree of accuracy exactly where and when a "flare" will be visible in the night skies of Earth. ... Depending on how close you are to the center of the "cone of brightest magnitude," a flare can appear suddenly as a 4th or 5th magnitude star, move slowly for a few seconds, then fade away, or flash dazzlingly brighter than Venus! It can be a highlight of an evening's observations." [link to www.caelumobservatory.com] . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42548759 United States11/16/2013 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think? |
| Hydra User ID: 50089944 Germany11/16/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42548759 [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think? Hot pixels. There are more of it outside the tail. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
| Perseus -]+[- User ID: 50105352 Greece11/17/2013 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +[- 50073978:MV8yNDEyMzE4X0ZENDM5NTZD] Quoting: Perseus -Ok, this is the photo from Spaceweather.com [link to spaceweathergallery.com] (click on image to see better the objects) The vertical lines you see are stars but because of the telescope moving following comet ison, and long exposure, they look like vertical lines lines who show the direction of telescopes motion comet look steady because telescope is locked on him *But*, if you look over the comet ison left and right you will see *Four* horizontal small lines + (if you are related with astrophotography your hair must be already up) The fact that these horizontal lines are *not* vertical means one and only thing... They are following comet ison, and for that reason they look steady in the vertical axis because the telescope who follow comet, follow also the objects on the comets path Comet Ison have *Four* Companions following him (all four with same speed) in * Formation * The fact that these objects look like horizontal lines show their motion in relation with the comet (side motion probably to the right and maybe in orbit around comet) Debris? or (because of the formation) indeligent driven objects (ufos) ? No companions - Iridium flare "An "Iridium flare" is a combination of natural and human-made elements: sunlight and a satellite antenna. Iridium satellites' (there are a great many of them in orbit to provide satellite telephone service in remote areas of the globe) Main Mission Antennas catch and reflect sunlight when not in the Earth's shadow. Since satellite orbits are precisely tracked and the angle of the antennas well-known, it is possible to predict with an incredible degree of accuracy exactly where and when a "flare" will be visible in the night skies of Earth. ... Depending on how close you are to the center of the "cone of brightest magnitude," a flare can appear suddenly as a 4th or 5th magnitude star, move slowly for a few seconds, then fade away, or flash dazzlingly brighter than Venus! It can be a highlight of an evening's observations." [link to www.caelumobservatory.com] . you obviously have never see a real iridium flare who is many times brighter from ison brighter than venus some times when at the same time ison is not still visible with naked eye you know what that means? if it was a iridium flare in the photo, you could not see ison from the brightness of the flare...and iridium sats are not blinking as the object in the photo (if we suppose its only one) the object is not iridium sat flare....too small for that |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42548759 United States11/17/2013 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42548759 [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50106837  Bulgaria11/17/2013 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +[- 50073978:MV8yNDEyMzE4X0ZENDM5NTZD] Quoting: Perseus -Ok, this is the photo from Spaceweather.com [link to spaceweathergallery.com] (click on image to see better the objects) The vertical lines you see are stars but because of the telescope moving following comet ison, and long exposure, they look like vertical lines lines who show the direction of telescopes motion comet look steady because telescope is locked on him *But*, if you look over the comet ison left and right you will see *Four* horizontal small lines + (if you are related with astrophotography your hair must be already up) The fact that these horizontal lines are *not* vertical means one and only thing... They are following comet ison, and for that reason they look steady in the vertical axis because the telescope who follow comet, follow also the objects on the comets path Comet Ison have *Four* Companions following him (all four with same speed) in * Formation * The fact that these objects look like horizontal lines show their motion in relation with the comet (side motion probably to the right and maybe in orbit around comet) Debris? or (because of the formation) indeligent driven objects (ufos) ? No companions - Iridium flare "An "Iridium flare" is a combination of natural and human-made elements: sunlight and a satellite antenna. Iridium satellites' (there are a great many of them in orbit to provide satellite telephone service in remote areas of the globe) Main Mission Antennas catch and reflect sunlight when not in the Earth's shadow. Since satellite orbits are precisely tracked and the angle of the antennas well-known, it is possible to predict with an incredible degree of accuracy exactly where and when a "flare" will be visible in the night skies of Earth. ... Depending on how close you are to the center of the "cone of brightest magnitude," a flare can appear suddenly as a 4th or 5th magnitude star, move slowly for a few seconds, then fade away, or flash dazzlingly brighter than Venus! It can be a highlight of an evening's observations." [link to www.caelumobservatory.com] . Lol. You're TOO FAST with conclusions again. Based on what? That's right, based on nothing. Zero. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50114062  United Kingdom11/17/2013 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42548759 [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think? Hot pixels. There are more of it outside the tail. . ah, yes. hot pixels. the final fall back position. well played sir. |
| Quasar User ID: 50082129 United States11/17/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well before you lock yourselves up in your bunkers do not forget the 2 things which you simply can not survive without and these are fine red wine and chocolate can anyone hope to enjoy the Apocalypse without these. I do believe with these 2 items your Apocalyptic experience will be a more pleasant one.... |
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| Perseus -]+[- User ID: 50105352 Greece11/17/2013 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42548759 [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think? Hot pixels. There are more of it outside the tail. . not at all...hot pixels are too brighter and out of place white dots these white dots shown by the guy are photometrick related with the surrounding halo light of the tail... they are real as the tail.... the question is again, debris? or something else? because of *no* motion related with the comet (as the side moving of the four objects)(they follow exactly the path of ison with same speed) there are big posibilities that they are fragments-debris and the guy who discovered them is right !! |
| Hydra User ID: 50089944 Germany11/17/2013 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -Looks like we have some possible breakup in that picture too. Those could be pretty nasty if they hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42548759 [link to i.imgur.com] Breakage? What do you guys think? Hot pixels. There are more of it outside the tail. . not at all...hot pixels are too brighter and out of place white dots What does that mean: "out of place"? Hot pixels are defective cells in a CMOS/CCD chip. They are always at the same place in the chip. +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -these white dots shown by the guy are photometrick related with the surrounding halo light of the tail... Sounds intelligent - but is utter bullshit babble. Do you even know the meaning of the term "photometric"? You have a halo around the nucleus - not around the tail. +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -they are real as the tail.... No they are not. +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -the question is again, debris? or something else? Something else: hot pixels +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -because of *no* motion related with the comet (as the side moving of the four objects)(they follow exactly the path of ison with same speed) Right thought - wrong conclusion. Since the telescop is tracking the comet, the comet exposes the same pixels on the CCD chip. Thus distance and direction to the hot pixels stay the same. Small tracking errors of the telescope and displacement during stacking of the images make for a little blurring of the hot pixel. +[- 50105352:MV8yNDEyMzE4XzQxMzc3ODkyXzU1OTE3REYx] Quoting: Perseus -there are big posibilities that they are fragments-debris and the guy who discovered them is right !! Ask yourself these questions: * Why does the "debris" don't have his own tail? Fragments of comets have. * Why is the "debris" not visible in photos taken prior and after the photo in question? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
