Incredible Research on Orion Nebula ("Ancient Aliens" aired "Orion Destination") Wow! MAJOR update pg.3!

hey, SK...can't wait to dig into this!!

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looks fascinating!

Unholy comm is quite parallel to what I discovered thus far in those realms.

What blows my mind is how many new agers in this thread are still sucking up luciferian garbage from TV and movies like its the real deal without any repercussions. So much for you to learn still kiddies. Hope you don't get burned with your naivette.

WOW...I needed something to watch/study tonight. Think I'll make another cup of coffee and turn up the volume. Thank you for the thread OP. Looks very interesting!!! And I too have a great interest in most things dealing with Orion. Blessings

Oh, thanks for clarifying that about Danny wiltens work. I don't understand why you put the two things together in your post. I wonder if Danny wilten is a proponent of the ancient aliens theory. He doesn't seem to come right out and say or speculate exactly what he thinks his findings mean unless he has said something more recently that I missed.

That ancient aliens debunked video is pretty good. I read some of Zechariah sitchins books but they were pretty silly I just couldn't get through them all. I'm so glad somebody took the time and effort to go through AA point by point and put it together.

I do like Danny wiltens work although I don't agree with some of his conclusions about what it all means. I also think its some sort of collective unconscious thing. But I the part i dont agree with is that i don't think the Vatican is trying to hide anything. I think the artists themselves were inspired to paint those scenes ... and the fact that we would later find out how well they match current NASA images of nebulae is amazing evidence of them being inspired works of art.

But hey everyone is entitled to their opinions.

I do think that ETs possibly exist, but not because of any ancient evidence... But more because of current evidence and witness testimony. I'm still waiting for my own sighting or to talk with an ET ill believe it when I see it.

His ego is quite unfortunate and frustrating. It is his achilles heal. If he ever wants to be taken seriously for the few areas he is potentially correct, he needs to mature to the point where he can admit when he's wrong and realize he is not the teacher, but one of many students in the same classroom, studying from the same books and the same world of nature we all live in.

If he was truly only concerned about the truth as he claims, then he'd be willing to listen to others who are studying the same subject matter. He'd be willing to listen to those who have already written books on the subject and presented some of his ideas before he did. He'd be respectful and open to ideas that elaborate and expand on where he is potentially correct. He'd allow an open conversation / debate on his videos. He wouldn't be stubbornly embedded in his hypothesis and he'd be able to alter his hypothesis when presented with information that proves some of his ideas inaccurate. That's what you do when you are seeking the truth.

It's not about the truth, it's about Danny

achilles' heel that is

Great responses to the material--thanks everyone.
And thanks alot for not getting too wigged-out if
this material conflicts with your personal beliefs.
Sometimes we need to move out of our comfort level
and let some info come in--it may enlarge and even
enhance what we already believe.

This video was posted on GLP but didn't get alot
of response....(the author didn't site the source
of the simulation--a trip from earth into the
Orion Nebula--and it if is actually accurate.)
Still...was very beautiful. Enjoy!


[link to www.youtube.com]

Cheers!
SK

This is a quick 5-minute video with some great
images from the Hubble Space Telescope on the
Orion constellation and Orion Nebula area (where
Danny Wilten has been focused for his research.)
I put the screen to 200% and 400% to see it better--
video is small. Enjoy!

[link to hubblesite.org]

Cheers!
SK

Thanks KarinZA!
Lots of great material and beautiful images here.
Many folks have never seen Vatican Art and some
don't even know there is such a thing as the Orion
Nebula within the Orion Constellation. Even that
much info is enough for this to be brought forward.

Just a note, also. Looking at the images of the
Orion Nebula which the Hubble pictures provide for
us--we can see many things which the human eye will
connect to previous ideas like animals, faces,
things which remind us of other things. In the
link I provided to Abhie's thread on the "Celestial
Nile Discovered" back in July of 2012 Danny Wilten
explains that he is using actual geometry, precise
measurements using something he calls "fractals"
(explained in the videos on Abhie's thread) that are
tiny mathematical patterns which match 100% to the
target shapes. In this way, Wilten hopes to make
the point that areas of the Vatican Art he chooses
match in minute detail to the areas in the Orion
Nebula (per the Hubble photographs). They aren't just
representations, or tricks of the eye--they match
down to the most intricate detail. An Artist could
draw a representation...but some of these paintings
match down to 100s of an inch in their matches!

Very cool study.
Cheers!
SK

[link to www.youtube.com]

Check out some of the correspondences between
Vatican Art (as found by Danny Wilten in this
beautiful video) and some of the areas of the
Orion Nebula which are a point-by-point match to
the artwork. Many of the paintings were done in
the 1400's and 1500's long before any Hubble
photos were available to inspire! Mind blowing!

Cheers!
SK

The Orion Nebula is in the Orion Arm of the Milky Way galaxy.

There are anywhere from 100 to 200 billion other galaxies, some even suggest as many as 500 billion.

Clearly the Egyptians placed an emphasis on the constellation of Orion or Osiris.

But Wilten's assertion that the Orion Nebula is the place of universal mind / the afterlife / god whatever you want to call it does not take into consideration these other hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Would beings in other galaxies be making paintings of the equivalent of the Orion Nebula in their galaxy? Or would they too be inspired to paint the Orion Nebula in our Milky Way galaxy?

I whole heartedly believe there is a great story being told in the cosmos, this is why the ancients applied the story and myths of the characters of the zodiac, it tells the story of man and the universe. All of nature's secrets are out in the open for anyone to see, in fact they aren't secrets at all, they aren't hidden, they are just there.

But there is more to this experience then just our galaxy. If there's roughly 7 billion people on earth and roughly 200 billion galaxies, that means there's around 28.5 times more galaxies then humans on Earth.

Does the Orion Nebula play some sort of important significance in our galaxy? Perhaps? Perhaps not. We'll never know until we know what's happening in other galaxies.

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For later,
Thanks O.P.

or how bout this, let's not even think about other galaxies, let's just look at the Milky Way.

there are hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy.

Looking at the massive bio-diversity on just one planet one would have to be naive to think that our own galaxy, as well as the whole universe, isn't also populated with the same level of rich bio-divesity.

Would beings in other arms of the Milky Way galaxy put any significance on the Orion Nebula?

Or would they find more significance in the constellations / nebulae that exist in the arms of the Milky Way that they exist in?

Hope you enjoy the material Goddess of the Sea!
Great name, by the way!

Cheers!
SK

Enjoy! Thanks for your post Rev Woo-Woo!
Cheers!
SK

Hey! Thanks for the question, AC...this may be relavant
to others also.

1. The "link" between the Ancient Aliens episode which
is a wonderful presentation of the Orion Nebula
and some of the corresponding mythology/religion
surrounding this mysterious area of space....and
the research by Danny Wilten is only that the two
are the leading-edge research done on Orion at the
current time.
Both are passionate presentations from 2 different
perspectives which can give the viewing audiance a
well-rounded understanding of the Orion Nebula for
possibly the first time in history. THAT, friend,
is a big deal in my book! Go out and see how many
people actually know even one single thing about
the Orion Nebula and you'll see that its very
important to educate folks about it. NASA must think
it important to point the Hubble Space Telescope
and take such detailed pictures, so that says something
also!

2. And...I am glad that you brought this up, as I didn't
cover this in the intro paragraph....
...No, Danny Wilten has never mentioned any interest
nor personal theories about the Alien question. I
have not clue ONE whether or not he has viewed the
episode on the Orion Nebula...nor if Wilten considers
aliens in his research--so far in the 2 years we've
followed his research, he has NOT mentioned aliens--
PERIOD! Maybe he will read this thread and make a
comment of his own--in his own words--to let us
know what his "take" is on the matter. I wouldn't
even try to guess!
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater regarding
either Wilten's research, nor whether or not the
Ancient Aliens series is worth its Salt as far as its
level of accuracy. If I had my account current, I would
DELETE THE VIDEO OF THE DEBUNKING OF AA...as it is
devisive to the topic and only serves to confuse people
who haven't been exposed to the wonderful info about
the Orion Nebula. It is too bad this person felt the
need to try to TRASH THIS THREAD. But, hey...jealousy
is a wicked emotion, isn't it.

Hope this answers your questions!
Cheers!
SK


Last Edited by SilentlyKnowing on 11/20/2013 01:24 AM

i watched the orion AA episode, and they all say that orion is some sort of portal, that you can "go to orion", or that aliens "came from orion".... but orion isn't a place. It's numerous stars all at different locations out in space. It appears like a flat surface to us, but all those stars aren't on the same plane.

[link to www.space-art.co.uk]

If you can "go to orion" or beings can "come from orion" where do you go and come from? Which region of orion do you go to? To Betelgeuse? Saiph? To Rigel? To the nebula? The constellation of orion is not a place. Look at the list of stars in Orion.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Clearly the constellation was important to the ancients and is of some great significance.. but how do you "go to orion" when it's not a place? The ancients seem to be emphasizing the belt stars, not the nebula... but the nebula certainly seems like an important spot since it is a nursery where stars are born.

(p.s. SilentlyKnowing, in the OP you state the nebula is in the center of the constellation, and that's not accurate, it's in the southern portion of the constellation,... there's no tone in typing so please don't take that as anything other then just clarifying)

(p.p.s. per my other comments about Wilten, I still stand by them because they are accurate, but don't wish to cause any ill will or bad feelings which I'm sure my comments would have done... it's just unfortunate that he behaves as he does because he does have some pieces and insights ((a few finds which I think are truly great and spot on)) and it would be great if he wasn't so stubborn and was more willing to participate in the discussion instead of trying to dictate it. So if Wilten did see this thread and my comments, I do apologize for any negativity on my part...like most of us I also have a great deal of ego and heart work to do).

Please take a moment and check out this webpage for
Danny Wilten's material. His visuals and stunning and
2 years of careful research is NOT to be discounted!
Yes, I have gone ahead and purchased his e-book.

[link to www.OrionintheVatican.com]

Enjoy!
Cheers!
SK

Boy! I wish that they would do an episode on Wilten's
work...that would be super!!
No, I only link the two together because these are
both current "state-of-the-art" sources of info
on the Orion Nebula. Simple.
Cheers!
SK

O.K.....

This is heavy. This is HUGE.

I really need your'alls help with really sorting
out this video. I'm going to have to watch it--
and I suggest you do so also--several times to really
grasp what is "between the lines" in Danny Wilten's
message here. Check it out. Is Danny weighing in
on the "Ancient Aliens Series" with his wanting us to
consider BOTH the ideas which science is brining forward
with regard to such things as Sitchin's, Von Danaken's,
and AA Series info with a WARNING (about putting too
much of our attention on the manipulation of ancient
astronaut theory into human evolution versus the
bringing of great significance about "consciousness"
and the UNIVERSAL SEARCH FOR THE DIVINE?)

I've been thinking that the Ancient Aliens Series is
a GOOD THING for us to be considering (of course, I
do NOT endorse everything they say) because it is not
RIGID RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE and fits in nicely with
enlarging people's world-views. But, maybe we are
playing with fire here, as Wilten suggests. If we
give SCIENCE (which is what Ancient Aliens Series
raises to the level of religion, now) TOO MUCH ATTENTION
we may lose the beauty of the divine connection.
It's all about BALANCE....What do make of this new
video? ENJOY!


[link to www.youtube.com]

Please let me know your thoughts on this!
Cheers!
SK


Last Edited by SilentlyKnowing on 11/20/2013 05:54 PM

[link to www.youtube.com]

Cheers!
SK

Last Edited by SilentlyKnowing on 11/23/2013 01:00 PM

Hi SK,
Long time...
Hello and Goodbye for now.

My problem with all this work on the Orion Nebula is that the researchers are only looking at the Peneal Gland and the immortality stargate aspect of it...the thirst for secret forbidden knowledge closed off to us because of our greed to be greater than God.

Always thinking the grass is greener on the other side when Life is right here in front of us to enjoy.

Once again, being lured in by the thought of Immortal Afterlife and Divine Magic as the driving force.
They love the fruit, but reject the tree it came from.

Magic, lets talk about that for a second.
Didn't God say not to do Magic? Why?
You were to only go to him for Wishes, Desires, and Knowledge...no one else.
The Magic is not out there, it is all around you 24/7..it is the magic of Life as orchestrated by the Creator to be experienced here and now, not after the fact or in the after world.

Kaballah, Zoroastrianism, Muslims, Jews, Hindu, even Christians in some aspects, all use some form of divine magic, Sigils, symbolism, chants, meditations, Chakras, serpent energy, prayer against others, the evil eye, Djinn warfare, dream warfare, etc.

The problem lies in that the person who is granting the seemingly magical events is the Cosmic Christ, and he disapproves of it 100% but allows it to an extent, as to not have the weak completely loose faith, a little token of magic to keep their faith reinforced.
Then he has to go put out the fires caused by people.

The Orion Nebula is not only a Brain, it is a Heart also.
It is a Giant Ape, a Man, a Child, A Son, Jesus, Allah, God, Satan, the daughter, animals, etc..all rolled into one.
A collective point of Past, Present, and Future emotions and thoughts.

A collective consciounesss of Heart and Mind.
A type of Matrix as it has been called, Yes, but not fully understood, only the term Matrix and Fractal loosely applied to convey a very superficial topical understanding of what it means on a deeper level.

It is the Adam, the first born, Yes.
But what are the dynamics going on there?
Is it a party? Yes and No

When God reaches out to Adam, that is only the most basic view of what the picture is representing.
Within that picture is also God, a Larger Hidden Adam, and his Greedy Green Father....read that again with a Heart of Rock and you will gain insight into Adam's delimna.

It is not only a Brain, it is the Heart and mind of Adam also.

You want to know what's going on in the higher realms, which is also happening here on Earth?

Christ Drunkens Adam into a Stoned State of Confusion.

Adam reaches for knowledge, and what he find are Demons and Angels...his mind is blown wide open, then implodes into choas where only the Light from God can save him from his own demons that Adam has created for himself, unknowingly assisted by God and Christ to teach him a lesson.

Within Adam's mind, Christ is projecting what Adam is thinking to him Good or Bad...a total state of confusion based on Adam's unwillingness to accept Christ or God as the Supreme beings...Father and Son.
He reached for knowledge instead of the Father.
Lost sight of what was really important, Family.

To reference Christ and use his writings, but not accept him is the ultimate slap in the face.
Then go on to trash fear mongering Christians is a No No too....falling for the Division, of which there is none.

The saving grace is that Christ later came as Horus also, they are one and the same.
The Father who returned as the Son, over and over.

The Egyptians and the Chrstians are one and the same.
The Iranians (Zoroastrianism), Sumerians, and the Egyptians are one and the same also.
This is why the stories and images match from time to time.

Osiris plays multiple roles as the father, and christ plays the roles as the Son in most all of the religions.

Christ is the Sacred Heart, and Mind.
The Universal template for Adam which lies in a Quantum Super-Positioned State of Collective Consciousness and Collective Heart, contained within the Orion Nebula.
A place where we are all connected to through the Peneal Gland and the Heart.

Orion is the Heart and Brain combined...that is an easier way to look at it.

It is not the highest level by no means, but only the closest level to Earth...the first itteration outward from here.
A collapsed quantum state where the act of seeing or feeling, collapses the events into reality.

Some parts of the researchers findings are correct, but for the most part they are only partial at best in their findings.
They look for the gears and mechanics of it, not the story behind it or what is curently going on there that effects our current time.

When they are able to locate the Supreme-Magi, Adam, Horus the Eagle, The Hindu Elephant(Ganesha), The serpent lion man Enki, the plant-like father Enlil, the Dragons and in what part of the world they inhabit, the Father of Christ, the Daughter Lioness, The Mother, the Wolf man Cyberus/Annubis in the ocean, Poseidon, The Sun, The Moon, the Ball that the Animals play with here on Earth, The Lady of the Waters, the Circuitry of the Heavens embedded within the earth's uppermost layers as templates for future events, Osiris, Christ the Futuristic protector that is already in place, etc...then have them come talk to me.

Peace to All, even those who don't like me...including my once acquaintance Danny.
Agreed, fear mongering is not productive, but closing off other's points of view because you cannot see it or understand where they are coming from, what information they are bringing to the table, is not a good teacher either.
Danny means "Teacher"
Teacher means to lead others in a Noble Wise way, not a warlike person who bashes others to gain or reinforce a fake popularity contest.

Only thinking they are right, when they infact are the ones who are wrong, as all are and none know the truth except God himself.

Everyone is learning, nothing is absolute, not even the teacher's current level of understanding remains fixed.
As it will change when new insights happen, leading to crossing out old outdated beliefs once held so firmly in place.

Point of observation, determines perspective.
Perspective determines understanding.
As single view is not complete, as it has many facets to be looked at from within out and from without in.

To accept division, right or wrong, is to be wrong...as there is no division and all parts contain crucial pieces needed to be combined to form the larger picture....a Family.

In other words, stop bashing the Christians, Muslims, or the Hindus, or anyone else who has a different opinion, and learn to accept that each holds a valid and crucial piece to the puzzle.
Even though some may be embedded with fear to control, does not make the information any less valid...Christ did and does exist to this day and is here on Earth now, always has been..period.
Each young man feels his presence, and it is he who guides them to find him as he really is, within and without.
The same goes for girls, they feel the calling to be the divine bride and their search leads them in that direction.

It is the Template of Adam of which he is to strive to become, like his father, the Benovelent Loving Creator.

The Tin-Man was given a Heart to feel with, use it.

Don't cherry pick the info to suit a theory and discard the rest as paranoid fear mongering Christians, while you take from their teachings.
That is how they were taught, by their god EL, who is Osiris...so go bitch at him about that if you don't like the fear that was promoted.
The one you embrace is the one you discard and trash also...how ironic that is.
It is no one's fault that the texts were infiltrated to control, we all know that.
Diffusing the fear is what is needed yes, but not to discard the people themselves, throwing the baby out with the bath water, so to say.
When someone comes to you in fear, try and help diffuse it, not beat the sh*t out of them...they came to you for help and to offer understanding of their own than might have been missed.

There is indeed a Spiritual War going on for us...period.

It is not my job to back it up, it is your job to validate it, to learn to find that which was placed before you to find, prior to you arriving there, to learn to see deeper into the images as a scene with your Heart and Mind combined, instead of parts and pieces of an Analytical Robotic Brain only.

Constructive criticism...meant in a good way as to only help make the teacher/teachers a better more friendly and acceptable teacher so that all can and will listen and all voices wiil be heard.

Then and only then, will you know for yourself that what I say is true or not true...but you must learn to see for yourself to arrive to that place of understanding.

Once you have developed/honed your vision capabilities to their maximum potential, you will be able to see as God once did, and understand his creation in more depth and understanding.

You cannot disprove or understand what you cannot see.
Nor can you embrace what is not seen either...a true loss of understanding in my opinion.

All that has been written is only a small fraction of what once was...based upon outdated beliefs and scattered knowledge...the important parts have been hidden or erased completely, some accidently and some on purpose.

So much so that the true knowledge was almost lost forever ...but is being reassimilated as we speak.
Each of us is doing our part to gather the pieces back up...organizing them into correct placement.
It is a Collective effort, not one man as an Island.

A collective Consciousness, but only one person is right and only he and he aloine holds all the insights...it doesn't work like that.
Each contains a crucial part..remember that as you beat each other up...fighting over the same pieces of the PI.
Each was given a piece, now stop fighting over who has the better piece...geez.
There is no Fight or Division, except the one you create.
There is no race to end this life, all that research into the afterlife, and none into the here and now life.

Which is one of my biggest complaints with most all the esoteric researchers....they only see what they see at that particular moment, and not what they completely missed a few steps back, therefore any understanding will be based on smaller parts of the whole story...incomplete at best.

To see people fight over info and beliefs as if it was their last piece of Pie, is truly sad to see, but is expected I guess, when they don't realize that another Pie is already in the oven.
Greed will get you no where, except placed back at the end of the line.
Tip of the Day...words to Live by.

How will you Loosen the Bands of Orion that it has on you?

By going to God and not trying to make yourself greater than him...period.

:Keep up the good work All and see you on the next level.
:hugs


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I figured there had to be others out there that can see Danny's behavior for what it is,...

I can't find anything online that says the name Daniel means teacher, but I think a new perfect definition has just been given to the name Danny Wilten: a warlike person who bashes others to gain or reinforce a fake popularity contest