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The Bible is full of LIES!!!

 
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Praise Satan, rewards his followers!!!!

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Quick question believers:

Should bible be taken literally or as a metaphor? (Can only pick one)
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


Anyone?
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


The bible says it is allegorical Galatians 4:22-26
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Nothing in that verse suggests that the whole book is one...

Even if it did, it's illogical to prove a book with content inside of it.
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Oh I expected that kind of response. So, here goes:

SYMBOLIC NOT LITERAL

1 - All of Jesus’ words were symbolic. There was nothing to be taken literally.

* All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spoke he not unto them: Matthew 13:34

2 - Here you are being told as clearly as possible that you should not take the scriptures literally.

* Who also hath made us able ministers of the New Testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6


3 - The Bible is telling us that you must begin to understand, not with the brain, but with the heart, or the Spirit. Dark sayings of old are simply words that have Hidden Meanings.

* - I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Psalms 78:2

4 – The text was written almost 2000 years ago and they are talking about dark sayings “of old.”

* - To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. Proverbs 1:6

5 – The Bible tells you right straight to your face that the stories are allegory!!

* - Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. Galatians 4:24 (This is the story of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar/Agar)

6 - The Bible itself makes it very clear to us that these things are not to be taken literal.

* - But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:29

7 – The “Temple” has nothing to do with a physical building.

*- Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Acts 7:48


* - Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16

8 - This verse explains that "Sodom" and "Egypt" are not physical places, but are allegories meaning they are spiritual in nature and it refutes the whole of the Gospel accounts of a physical crucifixion of the man Jesus in Jerusalem.

* - "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
Revelation 11:8


9 – We’re told to serve in the Spirit and not in the “letter” (written words).

* – “We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." Romans 7:6

10 - Here it says god ordained the hidden wisdom, even before the world.

* - But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory. 1 Corinthians 2:7

11 – God orders riddles.

* - Son of man put forth a riddle and speak a parable unto the house of Israel. Ezek. 17:2

12 - And here it's God's honour to conceal things, and make you figure it out.

* - It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but honour of kings is to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:

13 – Jesus says we do not know the scriptures and are in error.

* - "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." Matthew 22:29
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Awesome trailer, going to watch for the cgi

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Anyone?
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


The bible says it is allegorical Galatians 4:22-26
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Nothing in that verse suggests that the whole book is one...

Even if it did, it's illogical to prove a book with content inside of it.
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


Oh I expected that kind of response. So, here goes:

SYMBOLIC NOT LITERAL

1 - All of Jesus’ words were symbolic. There was nothing to be taken literally.

* All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spoke he not unto them: Matthew 13:34

2 - Here you are being told as clearly as possible that you should not take the scriptures literally.

* Who also hath made us able ministers of the New Testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6


3 - The Bible is telling us that you must begin to understand, not with the brain, but with the heart, or the Spirit. Dark sayings of old are simply words that have Hidden Meanings.

* - I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Psalms 78:2

4 – The text was written almost 2000 years ago and they are talking about dark sayings “of old.”

* - To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. Proverbs 1:6

5 – The Bible tells you right straight to your face that the stories are allegory!!

* - Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. Galatians 4:24 (This is the story of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar/Agar)

6 - The Bible itself makes it very clear to us that these things are not to be taken literal.

* - But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:29

7 – The “Temple” has nothing to do with a physical building.

*- Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Acts 7:48


* - Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16

8 - This verse explains that "Sodom" and "Egypt" are not physical places, but are allegories meaning they are spiritual in nature and it refutes the whole of the Gospel accounts of a physical crucifixion of the man Jesus in Jerusalem.

* - "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
Revelation 11:8


9 – We’re told to serve in the Spirit and not in the “letter” (written words).

* – “We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." Romans 7:6

10 - Here it says god ordained the hidden wisdom, even before the world.

* - But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory. 1 Corinthians 2:7

11 – God orders riddles.

* - Son of man put forth a riddle and speak a parable unto the house of Israel. Ezek. 17:2

12 - And here it's God's honour to conceal things, and make you figure it out.

* - It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but honour of kings is to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:

13 – Jesus says we do not know the scriptures and are in error.

* - "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." Matthew 22:29
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Cool, that just reinforces my theory of it being another filosophy book.
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It's funny you brought up THE TRUTH. ...


YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE TRUTH ...


DO YOU! ??


IT'S JESUS CHRIST !!!!
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That's how dumb you people are...
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You use THE TRUTH because you NEED THE TRUTH. ..

WITHOUT THE TRUTH YOU NOTHING!!!!
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This dude does this on every thread that's questions his beliefs,He tries to derail the thread with nonsensical drivel about truth and lies and types in caps.
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Your the king of stupid threads!!@
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Awesome trailer, going to watch for the cgi

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Probably a good movie but Christians believed this happened.HA
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Praise Satan, rewards his followers!!!!

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Finally. ..

Call it what it is! !!@


Crap!!!
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That's how dumb you people are...
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You use THE TRUTH because you NEED THE TRUTH. ..

WITHOUT THE TRUTH YOU NOTHING!!!!
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BeeBee
This dude does this on every thread that's questions his beliefs,He tries to derail the thread with nonsensical drivel about truth and lies and types in caps.
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Your the king of stupid threads!!@
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Its not my thread you dick.CAPS-TARD FUCK HEAD
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The truth of the heavens and the earth are hidden within it's pages. To keep swine from learning it, and to protect the ignorant from the consequences of their sinful actions..
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Jajajajajajaja!!!

You are hilarious. And probably high!


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Praise Satan, rewards his followers!!!!

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Finally. ..

Call it what it is! !!@


Crap!!!
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Where has the caps gone?
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Bibletards:

"The Bible is true because the Bible tells me so."

aaaaand it begins.
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The bible is the word of god because it says so right here in the bible.
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NO, YOU'RE FULL OF LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Accept, Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

If the scripture is full of lies, we are all doomed to annihilation...what self respecting atheist WANTS that?

If you think you do...you're a fool, and what would be the point?

That is the very definition of hopelessness....

Would you tell your dying child, that it's lights out, when they pass away?

The scripture, at least, gives us hope; otherwise, this is as good as gets.

Only George Clooney, and Tom Cruze get to enjoy, as for the rest of us...oh well!!!!
Tom has bought into a false religion created by a man who was quoted as saying, "if you want to get rich, create your own religion."

If you think you're all knowing, then continue to reject Christ. If you doubt that...I beseech you to take a leap of faith, and avoid dying in your sins. ACCEPT CHRIST!!!!!!

Way smarter men than you and I ascribe themselves to the truth of Christ...
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It's funny you brought up THE TRUTH. ...


YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE TRUTH ...


DO YOU! ??


IT'S JESUS CHRIST !!!!
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Its the return of CAPS-TARD FUCK HEAD.hello
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chucklelolatu
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LOL. no shit.I might of scared him away because i was on to him right away.But if i havnt watch out for his drivel
big_smile
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That's because your slow...
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Its the return of CAPS-TARD FUCK HEAD.hello
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chucklelolatu
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LOL. no shit.I might of scared him away because i was on to him right away.But if i havnt watch out for his drivel
big_smile
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That's because your slow...
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Gee your quickwitted
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How do i know? the bible tells me so!!! 1rof1

"Behold, the lying pen of the scribes hath wrought lies." Jeremiah 8:8

"The prophets prophecy falsely and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will you do in the end thereof?"
Jeremiah 5:31
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Are you of and evil bent or just like to misrepresent the Bible by taking things out of context and not putting in the truth.

You ever heard of false prophets and scribes weren't just writers they were tax collect and law makers, kind of like D.C. congressmen. Priest followed false doctrine just like today, the more things change the more they stay the same.

Lairs and doubters are abundant back then, as well as today.
People with itchy ears going after false doctrine cause the truth scares them, why I do not know. Mostly they do not want their sins taken away!
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How do i know? the bible tells me so!!! 1rof1

"Behold, the lying pen of the scribes hath wrought lies." Jeremiah 8:8

"The prophets prophecy falsely and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will you do in the end thereof?"
Jeremiah 5:31
 Quoting: beebee


Are you of and evil bent or just like to misrepresent the Bible by taking things out of context and not putting in the truth.

You ever heard of false prophets and scribes weren't just writers they were tax collect and law makers, kind of like D.C. congressmen. Priest followed false doctrine just like today, the more things change the more they stay the same.

Lairs and doubters are abundant back then, as well as today.
People with itchy ears going after false doctrine cause the truth scares them, why I do not know. Mostly they do not want their sins taken away!
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But it is written
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How do i know? the bible tells me so!!! 1rof1

"Behold, the lying pen of the scribes hath wrought lies." Jeremiah 8:8

"The prophets prophecy falsely and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will you do in the end thereof?"
Jeremiah 5:31
 Quoting: beebee


Are you of and evil bent or just like to misrepresent the Bible by taking things out of context and not putting in the truth.

You ever heard of false prophets and scribes weren't just writers they were tax collect and law makers, kind of like D.C. congressmen. Priest followed false doctrine just like today, the more things change the more they stay the same.

Lairs and doubters are abundant back then, as well as today.
People with itchy ears going after false doctrine cause the truth scares them, why I do not know. Mostly they do not want their sins taken away!
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But it is written
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what is written? the plan of the usurpers?
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Quick question believers:

Should bible be taken literally or as a metaphor? (Can only pick one)
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


Anyone?
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


What would you pick to survive, food or water. (Can only pick one.)
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How do i know? the bible tells me so!!! 1rof1

"Behold, the lying pen of the scribes hath wrought lies." Jeremiah 8:8

"The prophets prophecy falsely and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will you do in the end thereof?"
Jeremiah 5:31
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Once again beebee takes something TOTALLY out of context and twists it to suit her needs.
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No she didn't.

You are trying to twist it.
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I have a feeling that if they could they would kill us all non believers.
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I KNOW they would, and they would say they did it in the name of Jesus. What a bunch of sap heads
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cruise
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Beebee ever thought of starting the new religion based on bible truth?

I think you are one of the witnesses, or an angel, or.................I dare not say.

You sure seem inspired from ........above.
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I KNOW they would, and they would say they did it in the name of Jesus. What a bunch of sap heads
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1rof1
We're not going to kill you, we're going to infiltrate and kill your ideologies from the core outwards. The truth is enough to destroy it all
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Wow you're a badass indeed.
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You guys claim that Christians are out to kill you. Its ridiculous
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Is it?

damned You have killed us in the past.
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1rof1
We're not going to kill you, we're going to infiltrate and kill your ideologies from the core outwards. The truth is enough to destroy it all
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Wow you're a badass indeed.
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You guys claim that Christians are out to kill you. Its ridiculous
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Is it?

damned You have killed us in the past.
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Ihave never killed anyone
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Wow you're a badass indeed.
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You guys claim that Christians are out to kill you. Its ridiculous
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Is it?

damned You have killed us in the past.
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Ihave never killed anyone
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I am sure you haven't.
But Christians have. Look what happened to the guy who said the world was round.

The earth is NOT the center of the Universe.

They were too frightened to speak the truth.

I am sure you would never kill anyone, so not talking about you per say.
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Mythology is a tale, usually a religious tale, most likely fiction, created possibly using ancient historical events, persons and settings for the story background. It would equate to what publishers today call historical romance.

That said the Bible is, for the most part, mythology, (i.e. fairy tales, fiction, allegories, parables, folk lore) Parables are fiction stories with hidden meanings, just like Aesop’s Fables. Allegories too, are fiction stories with deeper meanings.

Matthew 13:34. All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

From the mouth of the Christian God, He says he would not speak except through parables, (Fables with a hidden moral to the story). I could end this chapter here and now, for my point is proven by the words of Jesus Himself!

Matthew 13:36. Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

Mark 4:10. And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.


Mark 4:13. And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?


John 10:6. This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Luke 19:11. And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

These verses prove that Jesus’ followers and disciples didn’t even understand the fables! (parables)

Reading the last verse again: “because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.” This is proof these disciples understood very little of Jesus’ teachings! The verse reminds me of today’s Christian Foghorns, that keep saying Jesus is coming!, apocalypse now! the end is near!

So we have Jesus himself telling fiction stories, that veiled hidden meanings, with his disciples that understood not what he was saying.

Luke 6:39. And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?

This verse from Luke is a parable that certainly describes the Foghorns of the Christian church.

The latest version of Christian Foghorns is that of Creationists, who venture to declare that the word of God is the history of Creation! They have been forced to admit the existence of dinosaurs roaming on the earth.

So with their magic wand of Biblical corruption, they simply declare that mankind walked hand and hand with the dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden. This is mythology created by Christian charlatans. There are some archeological finds that hint that ‘some’ dinosaurs ‘might’ have coexisted with man in time eons ago. But Creationist Mythologists also say this all started in the year 4004 BC.
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You guys claim that Christians are out to kill you. Its ridiculous
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Is it?

damned You have killed us in the past.
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Ihave never killed anyone
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I am sure you haven't.
But Christians have. Look what happened to the guy who said the world was round.

The earth is NOT the center of the Universe.

They were too frightened to speak the truth.

I am sure you would never kill anyone, so not talking about you per say.
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I commend you for not going apeway but you're still wrong. Christians did NOT kill him. They were afraid to speak against the government, not the Christian remnant.

For blasphemy in those days, was humiliating death
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This is exactly the reason I converted. I see the obvious contradictions in historical accounts, and the twist people insist on it
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Praise Satan, rewards his followers!!!!

Idol1resist
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Finally. ..

Call it what it is! !!@


Crap!!!
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Where has the caps gone?
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Satan and his followers will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, aka HELL. Yes, most definitely Satan rewards his followers but not the way you might think. He is the father of lies and deception. You are deceived by Satan if you think he will do you any good. Your soul is the price you will pay. Jesus loves you, God loves you, and the Holy Spirit is convicting you in your heart right now to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. That's all you have to do, believe.But Satan, the Prince of Darkness, has blinded the eyes of the people of the world so that they will not even believe! Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus to you. He will.
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Praise Satan, rewards his followers!!!!

Idol1resist
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Finally. ..

Call it what it is! !!@


Crap!!!
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Where has the caps gone?
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Satan and his followers will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, aka HELL. Yes, most definitely Satan rewards his followers but not the way you might think. He is the father of lies and deception. You are deceived by Satan if you think he will do you any good. Your soul is the price you will pay. Jesus loves you, God loves you, and the Holy Spirit is convicting you in your heart right now to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. That's all you have to do, believe.But Satan, the Prince of Darkness, has blinded the eyes of the people of the world so that they will not even believe! Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus to you. He will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48689376


In reality, there is no such being as Satan. It is simply a creation of man, and the energies associated with this as being created as the movement grows and the creation of such energies as a personification of such energies. Originally, Satan was nothing other than the planet Saturn in an astrological quality. It was the Egyptian Set, the Egyptian God known as Set, which represented Satan or Saturn; the Persians, instead of calling it Saturn or set, called the planet Satan, and personified the planet as though it were a person.

The Persians(Zoroastrianism) were the first to invent the personification of that which was called Satan. Later, the time being in approximately the mid part of the Christian Age, Western mystics, in studying various religions, latched on to the Persian teachings of Satan and brought into the Christian religion. Prior to that there was no Satan.

It then led to modification in the biblical texts, and let to various types of change in the scriptures and attitudes and terminologies used in the teachings, so that instead of Saturn or Set, the terms for Satan became as though the entity were a person; that in this manner, a force was personified.