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Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?

 
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ok this is intresting!!

lets think about what we know about this comet....

it is not named after the people who 'found' it but rather the scope that viewed it- is this due to it haveing been witnesed and named many times through the years?
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No.
ISON has no name, but the scope that viewed it is called ISON.
strange no?
 Quoting: Shadow

Not strange at all.

LINEAR, Lulin, PanSTARRS, all named for their respective observatories. ISON's discovers did not initially recognize that it was in fact a comet.
Hyperbolic means it has an orbit eccentric level 1, and its end orbit is UNKNOWN (it is said it MAY return, not it will NOT)
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No, Hyperbolic means that the orbital eccentricity is >1, not that the end orbit is "unknown."
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the reason NASA claim to not know is due to it being Hyperbolic.

the same can be applyed to Astros video
however astro claims to know what nobody knows

he compares a comet with a hyperbolic (eccentric orbit) to previous comets orbits, and claims it CANT be related, due to the orbit being to erratic and slightly out of sync, so unrelatable
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
you claim to caculate a predicted orbit model with a method which by definition means un-certain
 Quoting: shadow

Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


How can you be so sure of the accuracy of a predicted comet's orbit model based on observations made hundreds of years ago in primitive times by Neanderthals without accurate modern equipment?
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
Considering that the closest star to Earth is a little over 4 light years away, and there are 8 stars within 10 light years, if ISON were interstellar, it would only make sense that it came from one of our closest neighbors.
 Quoting: hatch battener 50098992

If ISON were interstellar, it would have an eccentricity much greater than 1. Most of these stars are traveling relative to us at many km/sec, and any of their comets would not be traveling very fast at all relative to their parent stars in order for them to remain gravitationally bound within their Oort clouds. Such a comet would, however, be traveling well above escape velocity relative to our sun. It would be strongly hyperbolic (1.1 at least), but instead it is only narrowly hyperbolic.
From Astro's own figures, ISON might not just be a good show from our region of space, but may be seeding interstellar elements into our solar system, until all civilization is destroyed!
 Quoting: hatch

Actually it seems that it will seed OUR elements into interstellar space. Perhaps that's the real doom. Poor universe will never see it coming.

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
So two orbits of ISON would be 666
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the reason NASA claim to not know is due to it being Hyperbolic.

the same can be applyed to Astros video
however astro claims to know what nobody knows

he compares a comet with a hyperbolic (eccentric orbit) to previous comets orbits, and claims it CANT be related, due to the orbit being to erratic and slightly out of sync, so unrelatable
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
you claim to caculate a predicted orbit model with a method which by definition means un-certain
 Quoting: shadow

Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


How can you be so sure of the accuracy of a predicted comet's orbit model based on observations made hundreds of years ago in primitive times by Neanderthals without accurate modern equipment?
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I wouldn't call them "neanderthals." Asian astronomers kept good notes on comets like 1014, and the orbit determination from those notes need not achieve arcsecond or even arcminute accuracy. A rough approximation that fits the reports is all that is needed, and that is what we have. It's completely inconsistent with the orbit of ISON. Likewise, we know what constellations the comet of 1347 was in, and that is all we need to know to rule out ISON.
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So two orbits of ISON would be 666
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Please, watch the video.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the reason NASA claim to not know is due to it being Hyperbolic.

the same can be applyed to Astros video
however astro claims to know what nobody knows

he compares a comet with a hyperbolic (eccentric orbit) to previous comets orbits, and claims it CANT be related, due to the orbit being to erratic and slightly out of sync, so unrelatable
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
you claim to caculate a predicted orbit model with a method which by definition means un-certain
 Quoting: shadow

Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ok this is intresting!!

lets think about what we know about this comet....

it is not named after the people who 'found' it but rather the scope that viewed it- is this due to it haveing been witnesed and named many times through the years?
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No.
ISON has no name, but the scope that viewed it is called ISON.
strange no?
 Quoting: Shadow

Not strange at all.

LINEAR, Lulin, PanSTARRS, all named for their respective observatories. ISON's discovers did not initially recognize that it was in fact a comet.
Hyperbolic means it has an orbit eccentric level 1, and its end orbit is UNKNOWN (it is said it MAY return, not it will NOT)
 Quoting: Shadow

No, Hyperbolic means that the orbital eccentricity is >1, not that the end orbit is "unknown."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



ok
word salad can be dry
lets have some dressing!!!

is ISONS or any other Hyperbolic comets orbit known?

a hyperbolics potential orbit will be analysed in a hope a orbit model can or will become clear
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the reason NASA claim to not know is due to it being Hyperbolic.

the same can be applyed to Astros video
however astro claims to know what nobody knows

he compares a comet with a hyperbolic (eccentric orbit) to previous comets orbits, and claims it CANT be related, due to the orbit being to erratic and slightly out of sync, so unrelatable
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
you claim to caculate a predicted orbit model with a method which by definition means un-certain
 Quoting: shadow

Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ok this is intresting!!

lets think about what we know about this comet....

it is not named after the people who 'found' it but rather the scope that viewed it- is this due to it haveing been witnesed and named many times through the years?
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No.
ISON has no name, but the scope that viewed it is called ISON.
strange no?
 Quoting: Shadow

Not strange at all.

LINEAR, Lulin, PanSTARRS, all named for their respective observatories. ISON's discovers did not initially recognize that it was in fact a comet.
Hyperbolic means it has an orbit eccentric level 1, and its end orbit is UNKNOWN (it is said it MAY return, not it will NOT)
 Quoting: Shadow

No, Hyperbolic means that the orbital eccentricity is >1, not that the end orbit is "unknown."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



ok
word salad can be dry
lets have some dressing!!!

is ISONS or any other Hyperbolic comets orbit known?

a hyperbolics potential orbit will be analysed in a hope a orbit model can or will become clear
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


You're not making any sense. We know ISON's orbit.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I don't often ask questions. But what do you think of the 2 small planetary objects orbiting Ison???

I don't think it's a comet. If it is, it's a huge mutha big enough to have a gravitational pull on two fairly large objects.

What's everyones take on this??

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the question that should be asked but noone seems to ask is just like the story of 9/11 building 7 is the giveaway for the biggest hoax on Earth is why did Nasa stop making public things about comet Ison passing Mars.
That is the dead giveaway that something big is amiss with Ison and no doubt they still monitoring this rock second after second but do not publish their findins.
Very very fishy and yet all seem to accept that it is normal behaviour for a once-in-a-civillization comet passing that Nasa shuts observations down due to government shutdown.
They had interest in comet Haley I tell you, this Nasa and comet Ison stink into heaven.
Maybe this whole government shutdown was created for Nasa to give them a reason to not waken up the sheople of something incoming?
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Considering that the closest star to Earth is a little over 4 light years away, and there are 8 stars within 10 light years, if ISON were interstellar, it would only make sense that it came from one of our closest neighbors.
 Quoting: hatch battener 50098992

If ISON were interstellar, it would have an eccentricity much greater than 1. Most of these stars are traveling relative to us at many km/sec, and any of their comets would not be traveling very fast at all relative to their parent stars in order for them to remain gravitationally bound within their Oort clouds. Such a comet would, however, be traveling well above escape velocity relative to our sun. It would be strongly hyperbolic (1.1 at least), but instead it is only narrowly hyperbolic.
From Astro's own figures, ISON might not just be a good show from our region of space, but may be seeding interstellar elements into our solar system, until all civilization is destroyed!
 Quoting: hatch

Actually it seems that it will seed OUR elements into interstellar space. Perhaps that's the real doom. Poor universe will never see it coming.
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Uh-oh. The whole of the universe will end up like O'Hare -

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
Perhaps it would be wise, when making a video of this comet, that it's orbit not be illustrated since it DOES NOT HAVE ONE. Basically, this man is saying this is the first time this comet has been seen and it will disintegrate when nearing the sun - as they all do.



So, who pray tell has created the nonexistent orbit which has allowed us all to waste a few months thinking about the potential disaster?

Seems well orchestrated to me - as every year we have some "confirmed" disaster about to happen that will end life as we know it, then on the day before this end of times, some genius pops us and calls us a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists. I have a theory - this is part of the distraction - part of the "overwhelm with information."
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Don't forget this one!
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I wouldn't call them "neanderthals." Asian astronomers kept good notes on comets like 1014, and the orbit determination from those notes need not achieve arcsecond or even arcminute accuracy. A rough approximation that fits the reports is all that is needed, and that is what we have. It's completely inconsistent with the orbit of ISON. Likewise, we know what constellations the comet of 1347 was in, and that is all we need to know to rule out ISON.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


We know that something happened in 1014 to cause a tsunami in both America and Northern Europe [indicates an impact in the Atlantic]. We know that Comet Negra came by and caused chaos in 1347. We know that in 1680 the Great Comet was seen. And we know that in 2013 a so called 'comet of the century' is on it's way.

Are you really trying to tell us that it's just a coincidence that there is a gap of exactly 333 years between those four major comet events?

Really?

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I don't often ask questions. But what do you think of the 2 small planetary objects orbiting Ison???

I don't think it's a comet. If it is, it's a huge mutha big enough to have a gravitational pull on two fairly large objects.

What's everyones take on this??


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Fake hoax is fake. It was originally claimed to be from a chinese communications satellite.
Thread: **Ison Video Close up with Space Craft Circling It**
Oh, and you don't put radio telescopes in space, there's no point. The atmosphere lets radio waves through and you can build a much larger radio telescope on the ground. The satellite specified is anything but a radio telescope.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I don't often ask questions. But what do you think of the 2 small planetary objects orbiting Ison???

I don't think it's a comet. If it is, it's a huge mutha big enough to have a gravitational pull on two fairly large objects.

What's everyones take on this??


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Fake hoax is fake. It was originally claimed to be from a chinese communications satellite.
Thread: **Ison Video Close up with Space Craft Circling It**
Oh, and you don't put radio telescopes in space, there's no point. The atmosphere lets radio waves through and you can build a much larger radio telescope on the ground. The satellite specified is anything but a radio telescope.
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Tbh I thought it was fake, or too good to be true. But from your experience are the winged photos fake as well?. The ones that popped up a couple of months ago.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I wouldn't call them "neanderthals." Asian astronomers kept good notes on comets like 1014, and the orbit determination from those notes need not achieve arcsecond or even arcminute accuracy. A rough approximation that fits the reports is all that is needed, and that is what we have. It's completely inconsistent with the orbit of ISON. Likewise, we know what constellations the comet of 1347 was in, and that is all we need to know to rule out ISON.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


We know that something happened in 1014 to cause a tsunami in both America and Northern Europe [indicates an impact in the Atlantic].
 Quoting: BadMoonRisen

Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
We know that Comet Negra coame by and caused chaos in 1347.
 Quoting: bad

No we don't. That's an ancient superstition that humanity should already be over. It's really sad that we're still living in the dark ages on GLP.
Are you really trying to tell us that it's just a coincidence that there is a gap of exactly 333 years between those four major comet events?
 Quoting: bad

Are you REALLY trying to tell me it's NOT a coincidence? You want to play that game? The orbit of the latter two comets are not even close to ISON's. At all. And there are multiple comets throughout both decades of the 1340's and 1010's. The ONLY reason those comets are "special" to you is because they happen to be on the years you are selecting as part of your confirmation bias to establish a post-hoc "pattern." It is classic confirmation bias.
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these are the ones i'm talking about

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
I don't often ask questions. But what do you think of the 2 small planetary objects orbiting Ison???

I don't think it's a comet. If it is, it's a huge mutha big enough to have a gravitational pull on two fairly large objects.

What's everyones take on this??


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50008397


Fake hoax is fake. It was originally claimed to be from a chinese communications satellite.
Thread: **Ison Video Close up with Space Craft Circling It**
Oh, and you don't put radio telescopes in space, there's no point. The atmosphere lets radio waves through and you can build a much larger radio telescope on the ground. The satellite specified is anything but a radio telescope.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Tbh I thought it was fake, or too good to be true. But from your experience are the winged photos fake as well?. The ones that popped up a couple of months ago.
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You mean this?

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
Depending on their timing and the Earth's orbit, Any comet that comes into our solar sytem(from wherever) and is a "star grazer" slinging around our sun, is a potential hazard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4234695


How did you come to that conclusion?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Seems logical?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4285842


Then show me the logic in it. Sungrazers are not automatic "hazards."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


he didn't say automatic. he said potential. and he's right. obviously.

when you cross the road, potentially, you could get hit by a car. doesn't mean you will.
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these are the ones i'm talking about

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Yeah, this:
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How did you come to that conclusion?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Seems logical?
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Then show me the logic in it. Sungrazers are not automatic "hazards."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


he didn't say automatic. he said potential. and he's right. obviously.

when you cross the road, potentially, you could get hit by a car. doesn't mean you will.
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If you know the car isn't leaving for the road until an hour after you cross it, then you already know that particular car is not a hazard.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the reason NASA claim to not know is due to it being Hyperbolic.

the same can be applyed to Astros video
however astro claims to know what nobody knows

he compares a comet with a hyperbolic (eccentric orbit) to previous comets orbits, and claims it CANT be related, due to the orbit being to erratic and slightly out of sync, so unrelatable
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
you claim to caculate a predicted orbit model with a method which by definition means un-certain
 Quoting: shadow

Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ok this is intresting!!

lets think about what we know about this comet....

it is not named after the people who 'found' it but rather the scope that viewed it- is this due to it haveing been witnesed and named many times through the years?
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

No.
ISON has no name, but the scope that viewed it is called ISON.
strange no?
 Quoting: Shadow

Not strange at all.

LINEAR, Lulin, PanSTARRS, all named for their respective observatories. ISON's discovers did not initially recognize that it was in fact a comet.
Hyperbolic means it has an orbit eccentric level 1, and its end orbit is UNKNOWN (it is said it MAY return, not it will NOT)
 Quoting: Shadow

No, Hyperbolic means that the orbital eccentricity is >1, not that the end orbit is "unknown."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



ok
word salad can be dry
lets have some dressing!!!

is ISONS or any other Hyperbolic comets orbit known?

a hyperbolics potential orbit will be analysed in a hope a orbit model can or will become clear
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


You're not making any sense. We know ISON's orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



IM not makeing any sense?
ME?

so when does ISON finish an orbit, and return?
and whats ISONs origin of orbit?

sorry, when you say we, you must mean everyone but me!!

OH NO, wait!!
once you have replyed to me can you email the same reply to NASA?
they dont seem to know either!!
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these are the ones i'm talking about

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Yeah, this:
:isonparallax:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thank you for clearing that up. Impressive work. Keep it up
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No, you clearly didn't understand my video. The comets of 1347 and 1014 can't be ISON or related to ISON because their orbits are completely different from ISON's. Sungrazer comet families have related orbits, but those orbits resemble each other because they are related.
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Word salad. Hyperbolic does not mean we can't analyze it or compare it to other comets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


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No.
...

Not strange at all.

LINEAR, Lulin, PanSTARRS, all named for their respective observatories. ISON's discovers did not initially recognize that it was in fact a comet.
...

No, Hyperbolic means that the orbital eccentricity is >1, not that the end orbit is "unknown."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



ok
word salad can be dry
lets have some dressing!!!

is ISONS or any other Hyperbolic comets orbit known?

a hyperbolics potential orbit will be analysed in a hope a orbit model can or will become clear
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


You're not making any sense. We know ISON's orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



IM not makeing any sense?
ME?

so when does ISON finish an orbit, and return?
 Quoting: Shadow Beam

It's not returning, it's hyperbolic, that's what it means. It does not mean you "don't know."
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
We know that something happened in 1014 to cause a tsunami in both America and Northern Europe [indicates an impact in the Atlantic].
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
We know that Comet Negra coame by and caused chaos in 1347.
 Quoting: bad

No we don't. That's an ancient superstition that humanity should already be over. It's really sad that we're still living in the dark ages on GLP.
Are you really trying to tell us that it's just a coincidence that there is a gap of exactly 333 years between those four major comet events?
 Quoting: bad

Are you REALLY trying to tell me it's NOT a coincidence? You want to play that game? The orbit of the latter two comets are not even close to ISON's. At all. And there are multiple comets throughout both decades of the 1340's and 1010's. The ONLY reason those comets are "special" to you is because they happen to be on the years you are selecting as part of your confirmation bias to establish a post-hoc "pattern." It is classic confirmation bias.

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1014 - Are you denying the historic records of major floods in the UK, Europe and the Eastern USA of that year?

1347 - Superstition? I quote from: A general chronological history of the air, weather, seasons, meteors, etc. in sundry places and different times: more particularly for the space of 250 years: together with some of their most remarkable effects on animal (especially human) bodies and vegetables. by Dr Thomas Short
London: Printed for T. Longman and A. Millar, 1749.

“In France, besides the rains, in August [1347] was seen the terrible comet called Negra. In December appeared over Avignon over the space of an hour, a pillar of fire, the sun being up. There were many great earthquakes, tempests, thunders and lightnings. Several towns, villages, mountains, and thousands of people were swallowed up; the courses of rivers were stopped, some chasms in the earth sent forth blood, as at Villach in Istria. Terrible showers of hail each stone weighing from 1 pound to 8, Abortions in all countries; In Germany it rained blood; In France blood gushed out of the graves of the dead, and stained the rivers crimson: Comets, meteors, fire-beams, and coruscations in the air, [meaning flashes of light] Mock suns, the heavens on fire.”[/b]

1680
- Are you denying the Great Comet made its appearance?

333 years apart - just a coincidence right Astro?
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
1014 - Are you denying the historic records of major floods in the UK, Europe and the Eastern USA of that year?
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What part of this do you not understand?
Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
1347 - Superstition? I quote from: A general chronological history of the air, weather, seasons, meteors, etc. in sundry places and different times: more particularly for the space of 250 years: together with some of their most remarkable effects on animal (especially human) bodies and vegetables. by Dr Thomas Short
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Yes, I'm sure that's a super reliable account of what happened, complete with blood gushing from the graves of the dead. You literally swallow every bit of superstitious nonsense you read, don't you?
1680 - Are you denying the Great Comet made its appearance?
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No, are you trying to put words in my mouth? Yes.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
1014 - Are you denying the historic records of major floods in the UK, Europe and the Eastern USA of that year?
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What part of this do you not understand?
Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
1347 - Superstition? I quote from: A general chronological history of the air, weather, seasons, meteors, etc. in sundry places and different times: more particularly for the space of 250 years: together with some of their most remarkable effects on animal (especially human) bodies and vegetables. by Dr Thomas Short
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Yes, I'm sure that's a super reliable account of what happened, complete with blood gushing from the graves of the dead. You literally swallow every bit of superstitious nonsense you read, don't you?
1680 - Are you denying the Great Comet made its appearance?
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No, are you trying to put words in my mouth? Yes.
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Mr know-it-all now calls historical records 'superstition'. How very desperate are you.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the question that should be asked but noone seems to ask is just like the story of 9/11 building 7 is the giveaway for the biggest hoax on Earth is why did Nasa stop making public things about comet Ison passing Mars.
That is the dead giveaway that something big is amiss with Ison and no doubt they still monitoring this rock second after second but do not publish their findins.
Very very fishy and yet all seem to accept that it is normal behaviour for a once-in-a-civillization comet passing that Nasa shuts observations down due to government shutdown.
They had interest in comet Haley I tell you, this Nasa and comet Ison stink into heaven.
Maybe this whole government shutdown was created for Nasa to give them a reason to not waken up the sheople of something incoming?
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
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Seems logical?
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Then show me the logic in it. Sungrazers are not automatic "hazards."


he didn't say automatic. he said potential. and he's right. obviously.

when you c
 Quoting: Dr. Astro
road, potentially, you could get hit by a car. doesn't mean you will.


If you know the car isn't leaving for the road until an hour after you cross it, then you
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know that particular car is not a hazard.



Hey, knowing is half the battle! And if you see it coming and don't have time to get
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the way, well.. Hazard.

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