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Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?

 
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
it is a million to one shot
but some very special times a million to one can be the deadest cert
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What? No, it's not a million to one shot, the comet is not in a 333 year orbit, that's all there is to it.
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I mean the comet doing something seriously out of the ordinary that affects earth
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even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
Considering that the closest star to Earth is a little over 4 light years away, and there are 8 stars within 10 light years, if ISON were interstellar, it would only make sense that it came from one of our closest neighbors.
 Quoting: hatch battener 50098992

If ISON were interstellar, it would have an eccentricity much greater than 1. Most of these stars are traveling relative to us at many km/sec, and any of their comets would not be traveling very fast at all relative to their parent stars in order for them to remain gravitationally bound within their Oort clouds. Such a comet would, however, be traveling well above escape velocity relative to our sun. It would be strongly hyperbolic (1.1 at least), but instead it is only narrowly hyperbolic.
From Astro's own figures, ISON might not just be a good show from our region of space, but may be seeding interstellar elements into our solar system, until all civilization is destroyed!
 Quoting: hatch

Actually it seems that it will seed OUR elements into interstellar space. Perhaps that's the real doom. Poor universe will never see it coming.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Last paragraph is the funniest thing I've heard you say...

Are you feeling alright? It seems as though your 'authoritarian follower' attitude seems to be coming off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24298141


I'm feeling fine, but I do feel bad for the universe that it might be infected by the same elements that lead to the rampant stupidity found here.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I think we'll be okay...unless there's a McD's on the comet...

WAIT! Didn't I see that on some Mayan Codex? The 7 tailed comet with the Golden Arches on it? Which BTW was 333years ago...

hf
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
it is a million to one shot
but some very special times a million to one can be the deadest cert
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What? No, it's not a million to one shot, the comet is not in a 333 year orbit, that's all there is to it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I mean the comet doing something seriously out of the ordinary that affects earth
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the odds of that are a lot smaller than million to one!
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If ISON were interstellar, it would have an eccentricity much greater than 1. Most of these stars are traveling relative to us at many km/sec, and any of their comets would not be traveling very fast at all relative to their parent stars in order for them to remain gravitationally bound within their Oort clouds. Such a comet would, however, be traveling well above escape velocity relative to our sun. It would be strongly hyperbolic (1.1 at least), but instead it is only narrowly hyperbolic.
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Actually it seems that it will seed OUR elements into interstellar space. Perhaps that's the real doom. Poor universe will never see it coming.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Last paragraph is the funniest thing I've heard you say...

Are you feeling alright? It seems as though your 'authoritarian follower' attitude seems to be coming off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24298141


I'm feeling fine, but I do feel bad for the universe that it might be infected by the same elements that lead to the rampant stupidity found here.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I think we'll be okay...unless there's a McD's on the comet...

WAIT! Didn't I see that on some Mayan Codex? The 7 tailed comet with the Golden Arches on it? Which BTW was 333years ago...

hf
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They'll certainly serve the same fries. Those things must have half lives of some heavy elements.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
Comet Encke, perihelions on the 21st Nov, at .33 AU.
Its close apporach to earth happens every 33 years.
It's orbital period is 3.33 years.

Comets love number 3

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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
it is a million to one shot
but some very special times a million to one can be the deadest cert
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What? No, it's not a million to one shot, the comet is not in a 333 year orbit, that's all there is to it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I mean the comet doing something seriously out of the ordinary that affects earth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50125825


even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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No, not at all actually.
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Last paragraph is the funniest thing I've heard you say...

Are you feeling alright? It seems as though your 'authoritarian follower' attitude seems to be coming off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24298141


I'm feeling fine, but I do feel bad for the universe that it might be infected by the same elements that lead to the rampant stupidity found here.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I think we'll be okay...unless there's a McD's on the comet...

WAIT! Didn't I see that on some Mayan Codex? The 7 tailed comet with the Golden Arches on it? Which BTW was 333years ago...

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24298141


They'll certainly serve the same fries. Those things must have half lives of some heavy elements.
 Quoting: 74444



Hahaha...yep, not sure what kind of preservative they use in those things but I sold an old car one time and got it cleaned up for the new owner...anyway, I found some old McD's fries under drivers seat that had to be ATLEAST a year old because that's how long the car was sitting...the fries *looked* fine, but the really weird thing was no bugs or critters ate them...not even ants! I haven't had them since and that was 4-5 years ago...


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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
No, it's hyperbolic.
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For now.

coffee4
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Perhaps you missed the part where I integrated the orbit for 1 million years and it's STILL hyperbolic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simple questions:

How much energy is needed to change hyperbolic to parabolic in this case (do we know the ISON mass to calculate this)?

Let's say in 1920s ISON traveled 4km/s so something as small as the Earth can change ISON direction 180degrees ( U-turn ) 113 AU from the Sun, do we know what is there.

Do we know all energies possible (not only gravity) during close miss ISON-Sun to be sure what will happen.

coffee4
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Did I missed the comment?
Or numbers are not welcomed.

coffee4
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
What about the debris field? That poses a grave risk to Earth.
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For now.

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Perhaps you missed the part where I integrated the orbit for 1 million years and it's STILL hyperbolic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simple questions:

How much energy is needed to change hyperbolic to parabolic in this case (do we know the ISON mass to calculate this)?

Let's say in 1920s ISON traveled 4km/s so something as small as the Earth can change ISON direction 180degrees ( U-turn ) 113 AU from the Sun, do we know what is there.

Do we know all energies possible (not only gravity) during close miss ISON-Sun to be sure what will happen.

coffee4
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Did I missed the comment?
Or numbers are not welcomed.

coffee4
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Someone else would need to do the math -- but (and correct me if I am wrong) ISON would need to *decelerate* in order for that to happen - something never observed before. And that would take a *lot* of force.

I'm not certain what they are estimating ISON's mass to be, but it's velocity falling toward the Sun is getting fairly ridiculous. You'd essentially need a force reducing its velocity so that ISON's eccentricity were reduced below 1. Assuming the main mass was only 3 or 4 km, that force would still need to be *massive* and applied just right to do it.

Anyone feel like crunching some numbers? I might be able to find the old 'hit Earth with a few tons of hot fudge Sundae' somewhere...
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
What about the debris field? That poses a grave risk to Earth.
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No it doesn't. No greater that the Swift-Tuttle debris field you are moving through *right now at this moment.*

Betcha you didn't know that.
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What? No, it's not a million to one shot, the comet is not in a 333 year orbit, that's all there is to it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I mean the comet doing something seriously out of the ordinary that affects earth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50125825


even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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No, not at all actually.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


you do not know what is going to happen. Your heightened interest in this is what tells more than anything.. somewhere deep inside you think something might happen.
when you get it out , you will feel better.
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Mathematics and Physics always seem to get the mental midgets furious on this site
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Perhaps you missed the part where I integrated the orbit for 1 million years and it's STILL hyperbolic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simple questions:

How much energy is needed to change hyperbolic to parabolic in this case (do we know the ISON mass to calculate this)?

Let's say in 1920s ISON traveled 4km/s so something as small as the Earth can change ISON direction 180degrees ( U-turn ) 113 AU from the Sun, do we know what is there.

Do we know all energies possible (not only gravity) during close miss ISON-Sun to be sure what will happen.

coffee4
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Did I missed the comment?
Or numbers are not welcomed.

coffee4
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Someone else would need to do the math -- but (and correct me if I am wrong) ISON would need to *decelerate* in order for that to happen - something never observed before. And that would take a *lot* of force.

I'm not certain what they are estimating ISON's mass to be, but it's velocity falling toward the Sun is getting fairly ridiculous. You'd essentially need a force reducing its velocity so that ISON's eccentricity were reduced below 1. Assuming the main mass was only 3 or 4 km, that force would still need to be *massive* and applied just right to do it.

Anyone feel like crunching some numbers? I might be able to find the old 'hit Earth with a few tons of hot fudge Sundae' somewhere...
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845000 mph is impressive, some quick calculations and it gives approx 2 minutes to circle earth,
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I mean the comet doing something seriously out of the ordinary that affects earth
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even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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No, not at all actually.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


you do not know what is going to happen. Your heightened interest in this is what tells more than anything.. somewhere deep inside you think something might happen.
when you get it out , you will feel better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50125825


I know enough to know ISON is not a threat to earth. Now you're trying to not only put words in my mouth, but in my head as well. You do NOT know what I'm thinking, let alone what is "deep inside of me."
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dammit if at least ONE of all the recent 'doom' asteroids/comets/solar flares/whatevers doesn't seriously fuck us up soon i'll be most disappointed.

i'm not holding my breath.
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even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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No, not at all actually.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


you do not know what is going to happen. Your heightened interest in this is what tells more than anything.. somewhere deep inside you think something might happen.
when you get it out , you will feel better.
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I know enough to know ISON is not a threat to earth. Now you're trying to not only put words in my mouth, but in my head as well. You do NOT know what I'm thinking, let alone what is "deep inside of me."
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Astro what are your thoughts on sunspot 1899?
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even you must admit those odds are more than fair.
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No, not at all actually.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


you do not know what is going to happen. Your heightened interest in this is what tells more than anything.. somewhere deep inside you think something might happen.
when you get it out , you will feel better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50125825


I know enough to know ISON is not a threat to earth. Now you're trying to not only put words in my mouth, but in my head as well. You do NOT know what I'm thinking, let alone what is "deep inside of me."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Psychologically Doctor,it is where your obsession with Astronomy and Space comes from. Watching , hoping waiting for that one thing that will happen that will make all the difference. Your whole life was tempered by Isons ripples from the future.
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now this, now that? I have never had the pleasure before.
so having attitude with me from an imagined past encounter is erroneous. Just so you know
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You must not on the basis of science ensure something to happen - nothing is set in stone. However, likelihood is a moderate term.
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origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown...
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The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us.
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we are going right through it's cloud, in mid January. What makes you so confident?...
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It is nothing new for Earth to pass through a Comets tail, that is where we get meteor showers from.


[link to science.nasa.gov]
"For several days around January 12, 2014, Earth will pass through a stream of fine-grained debris from Comet ISON," says Wiegert. "The resulting shower could have some interesting properties.


According to Wiegert's computer models, the debris stream is populated with extremely tiny grains of dust, no more than a few microns wide, pushed toward Earth by the gentle radiation pressure of the sun. They will be hitting at a speed of 56 km/s or 125,000 mph. Because the particles are so small, Earth’s upper atmosphere will rapidly slow them to a stop.
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Been meaning to start a thread on that NASA article-

[link to science.nasa.gov]

The article makes some rather startling statements. For instance-

"When NASA's Swift spacecraft observed the comet in January 2013, it was still near the orbit of Jupiter, but already very active. More than 112,000 pounds of dust were spewing from the comet's nucleus every minute.

It turns out, some of that dust might end up on Earth...

Veteran meteor researcher Paul Wiegert of the University of Western Ontario has been using a computer to model the trajectory of dust ejected by Comet ISON, and his findings suggest that an unusual meteor shower could be in the offing...

They will be hitting at a speed of 56 km/s or 125,000 mph. Because the particles are so small, Earth’s upper atmosphere will rapidly slow them to a stop.

"Instead of burning up in a flash of light, they will drift gently down to the Earth below," he says.

Don’t expect to notice. The invisible rain of comet dust, if it occurs, would be very slow. It can take months or even years for fine dust to settle out of the high atmosphere...

Wiegert notes another curiosity: "The shower is going to hit our planet from two directions at once."

When Earth passes through the debris stream, we will encounter two populations of comet dust. One swarm of dust will be following the Comet ISON into the sun. Another swarm will be moving in the opposite direction, pushed away from the sun by solar radiation pressure. The streams will pepper opposite sides of Earth simultaneously.

"In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented,"..."

What's startling about the NASA article, is that it claims particles from comet ISON will not only hit Earth's atmosphere, but "drift down to the Earth below", and that "some of that dust might end up on Earth".

I've been meteorite collector, researcher, and hunter for decades. Fact of the matter is, that while the number of meteorites numbers into the thousands, and the amount of material recovered into the thousands of tons, there has never been a meteorite found, no matter how small, that is believed to have come from a cometary origin.

Yet here is a NASA article that says that particles from comet ISON may "drift down to Earth" and end up "on Earth".

Yes micrometeorites are well known and have been studied, but none have been identified to have comet from a comet. All meteorites on Earth are believed to have come from the asteroid belt, the planets, the Moon, or of non-cometary interstellar origin.

If as the articles implies, that particles from comet ISON would drift down to Earth, and could be identified, that would truly be an unprecedented situation on this planet.

I found the wording of that NASA article very strange. They are giving us a heads up on a potentially unprecedented situation of cometary debris possibly being identified on Earth for the first time with this comet.

And if the pocket protector wearing eggheads with the coke-bottle thick glasses are wrong about the size of particles from ISON which might reach Earth? Well then, consider yourself warned.

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What to apologize for? The dude is always right - even when he's wrong.

I don't ask for an apology when he calls me a moron. He's entitled to his opinion and I'm entitled to mine.

Fight your own battles and stop being such a brown nose.
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I apologize, I should not have retaliated in kind despite your relentless onslaught of insults. Now, show me where I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well, you're wrong here:

Show me my relentless onslaught of insults please?
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Thread: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit? (Page 7)

wow badmoonrisen

its gone very quite hear!!
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Well, when NASA scientists themselves admit to being constantly surprised by comets, why would you believe the know-it-alls that bombard every Ison thread with their 'expert opinions'
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1014 - Are you denying the historic records of major floods in the UK, Europe and the Eastern USA of that year?
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What part of this do you not understand?
Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
1347 - Superstition? I quote from: A general chronological history of the air, weather, seasons, meteors, etc. in sundry places and different times: more particularly for the space of 250 years: together with some of their most remarkable effects on animal (especially human) bodies and vegetables. by Dr Thomas Short
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Yes, I'm sure that's a super reliable account of what happened, complete with blood gushing from the graves of the dead. You literally swallow every bit of superstitious nonsense you read, don't you?
1680 - Are you denying the Great Comet made its appearance?
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No, are you trying to put words in my mouth? Yes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


chuckle

Mr know-it-all now calls historical records 'superstition'. How very desperate are you.
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I was right. Now, show me where I was wrong.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


None of this is considered an insult, merely a difference of opinion.

Overly sensitive perhaps?
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I apologize, I should not have retaliated in kind despite your relentless onslaught of insults. Now, show me where I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well, you're wrong here:

Show me my relentless onslaught of insults please?
 Quoting: BadMoonRisen


Thread: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit? (Page 7)

wow badmoonrisen

its gone very quite hear!!
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


Well, when NASA scientists themselves admit to being constantly surprised by comets, why would you believe the know-it-alls that bombard every Ison thread with their 'expert opinions'
 Quoting: BadMoonRisen


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What part of this do you not understand?
Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth.
...

Yes, I'm sure that's a super reliable account of what happened, complete with blood gushing from the graves of the dead. You literally swallow every bit of superstitious nonsense you read, don't you?
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No, are you trying to put words in my mouth? Yes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


chuckle

Mr know-it-all now calls historical records 'superstition'. How very desperate are you.
 Quoting: BadMoonRisen


I was right. Now, show me where I was wrong.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


None of this is considered an insult, merely a difference of opinion.

Overly sensitive perhaps?
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Ego is not good
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Well your definition of relentless is clearly wrong. chuckle
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So how many times must you insult me before it counts as relentless then? By my definition you're pretty relentless, but apparently only your opinion matters.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


As a voyeur of ISON threads and seeing you in pretty much everyone I am somewhat familiar with what goes on in here, and I can confirm that you are pretty relentless with the insinuations yourself.

I still pose the question astro: Why GLP? why not some astronomy forum, why this conspiracy forum?

Also do you have a doctorate in astrophysics or akin, or do you just like to embelish yourself and if so why?

Was the picture you posted the other day really you?

Thank you for your honest answers in advance.
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I wish i was so simply amused...
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Me too...I got bored with GLP Friday night so I decided to research the origins of GLP...

Now THAT will fascinate AND amuse you...

hf
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Please share.......
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hi, would anyone have link to latest pic please?


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No, it's hyperbolic.
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For now.
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Perhaps you missed the part where I integrated the orbit for 1 million years and it's STILL hyperbolic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simple questions:

How much energy is needed to change hyperbolic to parabolic in this case (do we know the ISON mass to calculate this)?

Let's say in 1920s ISON traveled 4km/s so something as small as the Earth can change ISON direction 180degrees ( U-turn ) 113 AU from the Sun, do we know what is there.

Do we know all energies possible (not only gravity) during close miss ISON-Sun to be sure what will happen.

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OK, I see, I highlighted with blue color REAL data FROM JPL, just to make you easier to imagine what can happen to "small" rock in 100 years, so 1 million years perspective is unknown as much as what happened 100 years ago 100 AU from the Sun.

Be cool, use discernment, be Yourself.

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Why would it disintegrate this time as some suggest, if its made this trip every 333 years just curious?
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It doesn't make this trip every 333 years, as I reveal in the video. It's a hyperbolic comet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


correct, it is a 313 year orbit

killshot313
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iamwith

I like that!!!
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9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.



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Why would it disintegrate this time as some suggest, if its made this trip every 333 years just curious?
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It doesn't make this trip every 333 years, as I reveal in the video. It's a hyperbolic comet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


correct, it is a 313 year orbit

killshot313
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313 = 333 just like 666 = 616
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10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.



Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
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Re: Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit?
the great comet of 1680, was 333 years ago.

the orbit of Ison and this comet are so similar, but they say it's broke into two.

2 comets, with a 333 year orbit. do the math.

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