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I'm a teacher and I would not mind competing with other teachers for a higher salary, regardless of my years of service.

I think I'm worth double some of the teachers who have been at the schools where I've taught for over 15 yrs. I'm willing to prove it, be videotaped nonstop, have parents in my classroom, be on close-circuit TV. Double my salary, and cut the dead weight. You want to see change? Start weeding the garden my friends :)
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True.
Most mothers think their little idiot is the smartest child in the universe.
In reality all children are slowly becoming dumber and dumber, whilst the government keeps up the illusion that they are bright kids.
In O'Bummer world,no kid gets left behind, because they are all as dumb as each other.
A consensus of morans.

weirdo
 Quoting: OUCHER


Dont blame Obama. Those of us with genuinely "gifted" kids have been concerned about the dumbing down since the eighties.

If you took the sats in the early eighties, you scored higher than a kid with the sale score in the late eighties. Somewhere in there they dumbed down the sats.

Gifted education is a joke. Americans are very reluctant to find programs or even offer real support to those they perceive as already more advantaged. Even the word "gifted" shows a bias. A gift is a benefit you have not earned. Why help the "gifted"? (because they are just our smart kids, not unfairly advantaged kids, and because we have to import brains from china and india if we want doctors and engineers). Oh, arent all our children uniquely gifted? Yeah, maybe, but lets try to educate the smart ones at least as well as third world kids, huh?

Americans think paying taxes for a especial program for a kid smarter than their kid is undemocratic. So to get Americans to maybe find their own public schools they have to tell each and every parent their child is at the top of the heap.

This makes me too mad to be coherent. Sorry. Im just glad I got mine raised. We cant all be unique because thats an oxymoran. Half of us are below average. It will always be that way.

We did to education what castro did to wealth. Castro improved the situation of the poor then made everybody poor. We decided to improve the education of the retarded and now we are all retarded. The fundamental problem Is Americans wont pay to éducate some bright kid competing with their average darling. Thats how we get dumbed down.
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Omg. I love you. LOL

I have 4- 1 above average, 2 average and one RIDICULOUSLY gifted.

My 2 'average' kids needed special services when they were young- my son was born prematurely and he was unable to see. He was in 1st grade before he could start learning to read because he was undergoing so many visual surgeries. My daughter when she was 8 suffered with seizures due to a mass in her frontal lobe. The medication that she was put on saved her life (thank God), but, it caused her brain to 'freeze'. She was unable to learn or remember anything. She barely stayed awake.

Now, both of them are 'average' kids and are doing very well, thankfully. But, I completely understand how crazy people can be- they want to spend the money to make the children with challenges feel 'normal' and I support that....

But, the child that just 'knows' everything naturally- that child can change the future, cure cancer, whatever.

Having had kids on all ends of the spectrum, I understand it is an emotional issue and it is difficult for one to accept that there are others more talented than their child.

btw, our local program went from 'gifted' to 'gifted and talented'- because of complaints. LOL
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Yep. I have a profoundly gifted kid, too. He sounds like he's about at the same level academically as your daughter. I'm really happy that you have a district that will work with you as far as her accelerated education. Mine wouldn't and because of that we're now homeschooling. I will say, however, it turned out to be a fantastic thing...we're all really happy.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Listen to this High School student.




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"The facts of paleontology seem to support creation and the flood rather than evolution. For instance, all the major groups of invertebrates appear "suddenly" in the first fossil ferrous strata (Cambrian) of the earth with their distinct specializations indicating that they were all created almost at the same time."

(Professor Enoch, University of Madras)

"It remains true, as every paleontologist knows, that most new species, genera, and families, and that nearly all categories above the level of families, appear in the record suddenly and are not led up to by known, gradual completely continuous transitional sequences." (Dr. George Gaylord Simpson of Harvard)

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

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Listen to this High School student.




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Love this kid. His parents have got to be super proud.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Listen to this High School student.




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Love this kid. His parents have got to be super proud.
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Absolutely they must be.
However, he should be the rule, NOT the exception.
Communist Core will never allow that.
Want to piss off a conservative? Lie to him.
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"Within the period of human history we do not know of a single instance of the transformation of one species into another one. It may be claimed that the theory of descent is lacking, therefore, in the most essential feature that it needs to place the theory on a scientific basis, this must be admitted."

(Dr. T.H Morgan)

"The facts of paleontology seem to support creation and the flood rather than evolution. For instance, all the major groups of invertebrates appear "suddenly" in the first fossil ferrous strata (Cambrian) of the earth with their distinct specializations indicating that they were all created almost at the same time."

(Professor Enoch, University of Madras)

"It remains true, as every paleontologist knows, that most new species, genera, and families, and that nearly all categories above the level of families, appear in the record suddenly and are not led up to by known, gradual completely continuous transitional sequences." (Dr. George Gaylord Simpson of Harvard)

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

(Charles Darwin, "The Origin of Species")
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Texas just outlawed common core...

I love my state...
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My local school district got rid of IB. The liberal minority here quacked long and loud to no avail...awwwwwwwwww
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Some school systems pushing the International Baccalaureate program on their above average kids. All that does is pack smart kids heads full of useless shit they don't need. Common core and IB are both complete NWO, brainwash, screw up your kids bullshit.
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Agree on IB.

Smart kids should get thru the regular curriculum faster and on to college material. They have high IQ. Their mental age is greater than their physical age. They are ready for college material young.

Not a lot of other stuff meant to waste their time and keep them busy.

If they're good at math, they should be doing the standard math training. Mathematicians have decided what proper math training is. It's called the undergrad math major curriculum. These kids should be doing that not something else.

Same for other fields.
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I have 4 kids. One of them, the youngest is considered 'highly gifted'- scoring above 99.5% nationally.

Where we live, she has been put into a self-accelerated program where she goes as fast as she can and wants to. She is 3rd grade and doing algebra, reading the same materials as my 8th grader.

This sort of programming would be beneficial for all kids- where one has talents they should be encouraged to keep going and not have to 'keep pace' with average.

I am also surprised how many communities don't have these 'gifted learner' programs.
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Some school systems pushing the International Baccalaureate program on their above average kids. All that does is pack smart kids heads full of useless shit they don't need. Common core and IB are both complete NWO, brainwash, screw up your kids bullshit.
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Agree on IB.

Smart kids should get thru the regular curriculum faster and on to college material. They have high IQ. Their mental age is greater than their physical age. They are ready for college material young.

Not a lot of other stuff meant to waste their time and keep them busy.

If they're good at math, they should be doing the standard math training. Mathematicians have decided what proper math training is. It's called the undergrad math major curriculum. These kids should be doing that not something else.

Same for other fields.
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Wrong. Smart kids are still kids. We can "accellerate" our american kids up to third world standards in math, but we really ought not.push the humanities currículum to age innappripriate material.. think that through. Just because a ten year old can read steinbeck doesnt mean he should.
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The anti white propaganda just keeps getting better doesnt it?

Ya know what this is dont you? An effort to shut down opposition by alluding they are racist.


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It is clear that it really isn't the majority of whites who are racist.
It's the blacks. And they just can't stand it that whites made sure that blacks were accepted everywhere that whites were. They have no one to war with or be pissed off at but themselves anymore.
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The anti white propaganda just keeps getting better doesnt it?

Ya know what this is dont you? An effort to shut down opposition by alluding they are racist.


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Yeah was thinking this sounded like reverse racism..
what if someone was claiming that 'housing project mom's' didn't want common core cause it showed their kids couldn't learn in the normal traditional way? And they're using common core so all the white kids won't look so dumb?

People would be outraged.. even though that's what's happening.. 'if everybody can't keep up just dumb down all of them.

common core is a threat to learning for all kids.

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U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were, and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”


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True.
Most mothers think their little idiot is the smartest child in the universe.
In reality all children are slowly becoming dumber and dumber, whilst the government keeps up the illusion that they are bright kids.
In O'Bummer world,no kid gets left behind, because they are all as dumb as each other.
A consensus of morans.

weirdo
 Quoting: OUCHER


Maybe so but that does not change the fact that this common core bullshit is anti white.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36997606


Seriously, how is it anti white? Our CC aligned tests were harder than the ones they replaced, but they were fair tests.

Now, maybe other states are not like NY. I can only report what's happening here in NY state.
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wow, i feel stupid. i hope common core is destroyed simply because of this tiny aspect of its curriculum.

seriously, i can't stand this libtard shit.

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#1 The US education system is woefully outdated. Most of the classes students must take in high school are inadequate for the world economical/political systems.

#2 For almost ANY standardized test, all you need to be able to do is READ and THINK! They aren't really that hard IF you know how they're written and scored.

As a high school teacher in an urban school, I can tell you that today's average students absolutely hate to think. They want everything spoon fed and explained to them like they were babies.

There are exceptions to every rule. There are students that no teacher can stop. But they are few and far between.

Most students are already mass consumers with no independent thought processes.
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In the mid eighties i took a course in introductory linguistics at a jesuit college. The course was offered for graduate and undergraduate credit. About half the students were teachers taking the course for continuing education requirement of the schools where they taught. These were employed teachers with master's degrees. They refused to read their damned text book! We had an instructor from MIT teaching a course in a relatively new subject, and the teachers of our children wanted her to read the damned text book to them in class. They were paying hundreds of dollars per semester hour, with an instructor from MIT standing in front of them to teach them something pretty interesting, and they wanted her to read the text to them,..do you understand what Im describing? These are teachera who are crying that they ome to class and the teacher not only expects them to have read the textbook at home...she taller about things that arent even the text book! Teachers ran to the Dean of a University to tell him that his instructor was Talking about things that werent in the textbook. It wasnt Fair. And she was acting like they should know what was in the textbook. These were teachers who teach children who hadnt Heard of read The text at home so you understand the lecture.which is Not in The text.
Loo
Dont complain about students when teachers are worse.

But here is something interesting. The instructor told the teachers they would read the text at home and attend lectures and participate in class or they would fail. Imagine that, teaching with integrity.
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The anti white propaganda just keeps getting better doesnt it?

Ya know what this is dont you? An effort to shut down opposition by alluding they are racist.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48567111


Yeah was thinking this sounded like reverse racism..
what if someone was claiming that 'housing project mom's' didn't want common core cause it showed their kids couldn't learn in the normal traditional way? And they're using common core so all the white kids won't look so dumb?

People would be outraged.. even though that's what's happening.. 'if everybody can't keep up just dumb down all of them.

common core is a threat to learning for all kids.
 Quoting: ceawaves


When black ghetto kids and white suburban kids learn the same curriculum, direct comparisons can be made. Its not racism not reverse racism to make direct comparisons. Its better for ghetto black kids to see, hey, Heres an objective measure that says id be as good an engineer as white kids in the suburbs. so maybe I ought to finish school and apply to college.

I know for a fact I have met ghetto women who were smarter than top ten college women, and smarter than white suburban women by far. Our unequal schools keep their kids out of good jobs.

Equalise schools. Get a real meritocracy. There will be no more white suburbs. There will be smart suburbs.
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#1 The US education system is woefully outdated. Most of the classes students must take in high school are inadequate for the world economical/political systems.

#2 For almost ANY standardized test, all you need to be able to do is READ and THINK! They aren't really that hard IF you know how they're written and scored.

As a high school teacher in an urban school, I can tell you that today's average students absolutely hate to think. They want everything spoon fed and explained to them like they were babies.

There are exceptions to every rule. There are students that no teacher can stop. But they are few and far between.

Most students are already mass consumers with no independent thought processes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12170896


In the mid eighties i took a course in introductory linguistics at a jesuit college. The course was offered for graduate and undergraduate credit. About half the students were teachers taking the course for continuing education requirement of the schools where they taught. These were employed teachers with master's degrees. They refused to read their damned text book! We had an instructor from MIT teaching a course in a relatively new subject, and the teachers of our children wanted her to read the damned text book to them in class. They were paying hundreds of dollars per semester hour, with an instructor from MIT standing in front of them to teach them something pretty interesting, and they wanted her to read the text to them,..do you understand what Im describing? These are teachera who are crying that they ome to class and the teacher not only expects them to have read the textbook at home...she taller about things that arent even the text book! Teachers ran to the Dean of a University to tell him that his instructor was Talking about things that werent in the textbook. It wasnt Fair. And she was acting like they should know what was in the textbook. These were teachers who teach children who hadnt Heard of read The text at home so you understand the lecture.which is Not in The text.
Loo
Dont complain about students when teachers are worse.

But here is something interesting. The instructor told the teachers they would read the text at home and attend lectures and participate in class or they would fail. Imagine that, teaching with integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8801727


These teachers, yes those teaching our children, most of them probably had education degrees.

Did you ever see anyone with a 3 digit IQ major in education?
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True.
Most mothers think their little idiot is the smartest child in the universe.
In reality all children are slowly becoming dumber and dumber, whilst the government keeps up the illusion that they are bright kids.
In O'Bummer world,no kid gets left behind, because they are all as dumb as each other.
A consensus of morans.

weirdo
 Quoting: OUCHER


Dont blame Obama. Those of us with genuinely "gifted" kids have been concerned about the dumbing down since the eighties.

If you took the sats in the early eighties, you scored higher than a kid with the sale score in the late eighties. Somewhere in there they dumbed down the sats.

Gifted education is a joke. Americans are very reluctant to find programs or even offer real support to those they perceive as already more advantaged. Even the word "gifted" shows a bias. A gift is a benefit you have not earned. Why help the "gifted"? (because they are just our smart kids, not unfairly advantaged kids, and because we have to import brains from china and india if we want doctors and engineers). Oh, arent all our children uniquely gifted? Yeah, maybe, but lets try to educate the smart ones at least as well as third world kids, huh?

Americans think paying taxes for a especial program for a kid smarter than their kid is undemocratic. So to get Americans to maybe find their own public schools they have to tell each and every parent their child is at the top of the heap.

This makes me too mad to be coherent. Sorry. Im just glad I got mine raised. We cant all be unique because thats an oxymoran. Half of us are below average. It will always be that way.

We did to education what castro did to wealth. Castro improved the situation of the poor then made everybody poor. We decided to improve the education of the retarded and now we are all retarded. The fundamental problem Is Americans wont pay to éducate some bright kid competing with their average darling. Thats how we get dumbed down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8801727


I gave you a gift, now how about going back and watching it?
Others here have given their gifts.

I shouldn't be paying one cent for your stupidity and being forced to pay for an education system designed to destroy our nation.

You had kids, you pay for them, you hire a private tutor and give them a worthwhile education. Free the teachers themselves to teach to their own level of compentency, and to succeed as their skills and supposed education is supposed to have prepared them to be able to do. Instead of robbing childern of life, teachers of their value, and ending up with a society of sheep.

You have no idea what you're even talking about. Supporting the current education system is virtually supporting the enforced retardation of childern.
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I am a white suburban woman, you idiot. My son is a research engineer.

If we want our fucking bridges not to fall down, we need engineers. Our current system of you pay for yours and I pay for mine isnt producing American kids smart enough to keep the bridges up over our heads. Weneed foreign engineers. Thats fine. They are cute. Our girls like their sexy accents and refreshingly masculine ways. But...they will go home and leave us brain drained.

Its time to standardise education and get tyrone and antoine and shaniqua into engineering programs. We cant afford the waste of racism. We cant afford to let the children of the not so meritocratic middle class get all the good jobs. We have to get the smart kids wherever they live on the same page. If your isnt on the page, at least a bridge wont fall on his head while he drives to his respectable package handling job
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The anti white propaganda just keeps getting better doesnt it?

Ya know what this is dont you? An effort to shut down opposition by alluding they are racist.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48567111


It is clear that it really isn't the majority of whites who are racist.
It's the blacks. And they just can't stand it that whites made sure that blacks were accepted everywhere that whites were. They have no one to war with or be pissed off at but themselves anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50103786


Actually hispanics are far more racist than blacks.
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True.
Most mothers think their little idiot is the smartest child in the universe.
In reality all children are slowly becoming dumber and dumber, whilst the government keeps up the illusion that they are bright kids.
In O'Bummer world,no kid gets left behind, because they are all as dumb as each other.
A consensus of morans.

weirdo
 Quoting: OUCHER


Dont blame Obama. Those of us with genuinely "gifted" kids have been concerned about the dumbing down since the eighties.

If you took the sats in the early eighties, you scored higher than a kid with the sale score in the late eighties. Somewhere in there they dumbed down the sats.

Gifted education is a joke. Americans are very reluctant to find programs or even offer real support to those they perceive as already more advantaged. Even the word "gifted" shows a bias. A gift is a benefit you have not earned. Why help the "gifted"? (because they are just our smart kids, not unfairly advantaged kids, and because we have to import brains from china and india if we want doctors and engineers). Oh, arent all our children uniquely gifted? Yeah, maybe, but lets try to educate the smart ones at least as well as third world kids, huh?

Americans think paying taxes for a especial program for a kid smarter than their kid is undemocratic. So to get Americans to maybe find their own public schools they have to tell each and every parent their child is at the top of the heap.

This makes me too mad to be coherent. Sorry. Im just glad I got mine raised. We cant all be unique because thats an oxymoran. Half of us are below average. It will always be that way.

We did to education what castro did to wealth. Castro improved the situation of the poor then made everybody poor. We decided to improve the education of the retarded and now we are all retarded. The fundamental problem Is Americans wont pay to éducate some bright kid competing with their average darling. Thats how we get dumbed down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8801727


I gave you a gift, now how about going back and watching it?
Others here have given their gifts.

I shouldn't be paying one cent for your stupidity and being forced to pay for an education system designed to destroy our nation.

You had kids, you pay for them, you hire a private tutor and give them a worthwhile education. Free the teachers themselves to teach to their own level of compentency, and to succeed as their skills and supposed education is supposed to have prepared them to be able to do. Instead of robbing childern of life, teachers of their value, and ending up with a society of sheep.

You have no idea what you're even talking about. Supporting the current education system is virtually supporting the enforced retardation of childern.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50073610



I am a white suburban woman, you idiot. My son is a research engineer.

If we want our fucking bridges not to fall down, we need engineers. Our current system of you pay for yours and I pay for mine isnt producing American kids smart enough to keep the bridges up over our heads. Weneed foreign engineers. Thats fine. They are cute. Our girls like their sexy accents and refreshingly masculine ways. But...they will go home and leave us brain drained.

Its time to standardise education and get tyrone and antoine and shaniqua into engineering programs. We cant afford the waste of racism. We cant afford to let the children of the not so meritocratic middle class get all the good jobs. We have to get the smart kids wherever they live on the same page. If your isnt on the page, at least a bridge wont fall on his head while he drives to his respectable package handling job
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8801727


Tyrone can get into engineering school a lot easier than Fred or some Chinese guy can. We're already pushing the number of Tyrones as high as we can. But honestly, I don't know if I'd trust the bridge signed off by an affirmative action engineer.

I know there's a problem that if Tyrone is smarter than his peers in black schools, they might give him shit for "acting white". That's the way it is, I don't think we can try to change neighborhood culture, but we should keep the violence down on school property. But if he survives it, Tyrone with his 550 math SAT will be treated as if he's the second coming of David Hilbert when it comes to college admissions.
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Dont blame Obama. Those of us with genuinely "gifted" kids have been concerned about the dumbing down since the eighties.

If you took the sats in the early eighties, you scored higher than a kid with the sale score in the late eighties. Somewhere in there they dumbed down the sats.

Gifted education is a joke. Americans are very reluctant to find programs or even offer real support to those they perceive as already more advantaged. Even the word "gifted" shows a bias. A gift is a benefit you have not earned. Why help the "gifted"? (because they are just our smart kids, not unfairly advantaged kids, and because we have to import brains from china and india if we want doctors and engineers). Oh, arent all our children uniquely gifted? Yeah, maybe, but lets try to educate the smart ones at least as well as third world kids, huh?

Americans think paying taxes for a especial program for a kid smarter than their kid is undemocratic. So to get Americans to maybe find their own public schools they have to tell each and every parent their child is at the top of the heap.

This makes me too mad to be coherent. Sorry. Im just glad I got mine raised. We cant all be unique because thats an oxymoran. Half of us are below average. It will always be that way.

We did to education what castro did to wealth. Castro improved the situation of the poor then made everybody poor. We decided to improve the education of the retarded and now we are all retarded. The fundamental problem Is Americans wont pay to éducate some bright kid competing with their average darling. Thats how we get dumbed down.
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I gave you a gift, now how about going back and watching it?
Others here have given their gifts.

I shouldn't be paying one cent for your stupidity and being forced to pay for an education system designed to destroy our nation.

You had kids, you pay for them, you hire a private tutor and give them a worthwhile education. Free the teachers themselves to teach to their own level of compentency, and to succeed as their skills and supposed education is supposed to have prepared them to be able to do. Instead of robbing childern of life, teachers of their value, and ending up with a society of sheep.

You have no idea what you're even talking about. Supporting the current education system is virtually supporting the enforced retardation of childern.
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I am a white suburban woman, you idiot. My son is a research engineer.

If we want our fucking bridges not to fall down, we need engineers. Our current system of you pay for yours and I pay for mine isnt producing American kids smart enough to keep the bridges up over our heads. Weneed foreign engineers. Thats fine. They are cute. Our girls like their sexy accents and refreshingly masculine ways. But...they will go home and leave us brain drained.

Its time to standardise education and get tyrone and antoine and shaniqua into engineering programs. We cant afford the waste of racism. We cant afford to let the children of the not so meritocratic middle class get all the good jobs. We have to get the smart kids wherever they live on the same page. If your isnt on the page, at least a bridge wont fall on his head while he drives to his respectable package handling job
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Tyrone can get into engineering school a lot easier than Fred or some Chinese guy can. We're already pushing the number of Tyrones as high as we can. But honestly, I don't know if I'd trust the bridge signed off by an affirmative action engineer.

I know there's a problem that if Tyrone is smarter than his peers in black schools, they might give him shit for "acting white". That's the way it is, I don't think we can try to change neighborhood culture, but we should keep the violence down on school property. But if he survives it, Tyrone with his 550 math SAT will be treated as if he's the second coming of David Hilbert when it comes to college admissions.
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Bullshit. You only have to walk through the engineering building of your state University to see that women and non-Asian minorities are vastly underrepresented in engineering. If you see a black man, hes a foreign born Muslim.

The reason tyrone with his 138 IQ isnt in the engineering program at his state uní was because his high school was teaching how to count back change. The classes he needs to get into college aren't being taught.

Drop that "neighborhood culture/acting white crap. Is that from the Reagan era? Neighborhood culture and acting white hasn't kept gangs out of military to get trained.

Drop that affirmative action crap too.
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The anti white propaganda just keeps getting better doesnt it?

Ya know what this is dont you? An effort to shut down opposition by alluding they are racist.


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Yeah was thinking this sounded like reverse racism..
what if someone was claiming that 'housing project mom's' didn't want common core cause it showed their kids couldn't learn in the normal traditional way? And they're using common core so all the white kids won't look so dumb?

People would be outraged.. even though that's what's happening.. 'if everybody can't keep up just dumb down all of them.

common core is a threat to learning for all kids.
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When black ghetto kids and white suburban kids learn the same curriculum, direct comparisons can be made. Its not racism not reverse racism to make direct comparisons. Its better for ghetto black kids to see, hey, Heres an objective measure that says id be as good an engineer as white kids in the suburbs. so maybe I ought to finish school and apply to college.

I know for a fact I have met ghetto women who were smarter than top ten college women, and smarter than white suburban women by far. Our unequal schools keep their kids out of good jobs.

Equalise schools. Get a real meritocracy. There will be no more white suburbs. There will be smart suburbs.
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There will be no smart anything thing...don't know where you live but there's not any 'white only suburbs' that's only more propaganda. Schools were desegregated back in the early 70's/late 60's or before that even.. are you kidding or just playing make believe? With all the free chit they get, including higher learning.. if they can't make it now they will never make it, that's part of the problem they don't have to really work for anything they're given it,which in turn cheapens everything.... you can't prop someone up and then claim they're standing/earned it on their own..
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Arne, you racist, aren't the black suburban moms upset? There are plenty of African American and Asian kids in the school my kid goes to! (the other one I homeschool)
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U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were, and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”


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Arne Duncan knows the score. More truth slips out from a libtard.

Although white women think the pussy between their legs holds power over all...

The Democrat Media propagandize white women that they sit atop the Democrat Party power pyramid but...

After Jews...

After Gays...

After Illegals...

After Al Qaeda...

After white college boys...

And finally after negros...

Don't look for Duncan to lose any sleep.
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Arne Duncan should be investigated. There are no doubt plenty of dumb little white children out there, but what if he had said that black, hispanic, or Asian parents are finding out that their kids aren't very smart, due to Common Core? If he had said that, he would have lost his job.

And people wonder why there is "racism". This right here highlights the problem with stupid libtards and political correctness. This is exactly why I bash blacks, hispanics, and Jews as much as possible. For precisely this reason.
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Only 20 percent of blacks passed common core. HAHAHAHAHAHA
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