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Transhumanism Exposes the Best and Worst in humanity Says Fortean Author Robert Steven Thomas

 
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Robert Steven Thomas and I continue our conversation on his book Intelligent Intervention: The Missing Link in the History of Human Evolution.

Russell Scott - A big interest of yours is transhumanism (h+). H+ naturally sparks a great divide in its critics and supporters as man surges ever closer to artificially transforming the human species into, as you say “Gods”. The 2045 Initiative is a well-known project right now; where do you see man in 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, as it relates to transhumanism?

Robert Steven Thomas - Transhumanism does indeed expose both the best and worst in contemporary humanity Russell. While the division it creates may ultimately serve a useful purpose to mankind, much of it is unwarranted and simply the product of apathy and ignorance on the part of far too many people. In truth, transhumanism isn’t surging closer … we are already there! While it is likely many of the more remarkable and transformative H+ potentials are still decades away, the initial stages have already taken root and are here with us now.

Consider the Cochlear implant which allows the deaf to hear through an embedded computer chip ... Mentally driven - computer responsive, artificial limbs which provide mobility to those who suffer from “locked-in syndrome”and new implant-devices which respond to your own brain waves and are currently providing three dimensional vision to individuals who have non-functioning eyes or have been blind from birth. These creations presently exist and are being tested and used at this time by real people. While they remain a work-in-progress at this stage, they do actually function. Improvements on these devices will most certainly advance dramatically in the near future … and by near future I mean as measured in years, not decades. How can any reasonable person deny the use of these remarkable devices and the benefit of improving the quality of life for those who are unfortunately afflicted? Cannot the same be said about computer enhanced individual intelligence? Why not? Do we still have one foot too securely in the Dark Ages?


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I'm the first successful BCI link so i run the show . whether these people i am mind controlling " can " admit it or not LMAO
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Robert Steven Thomas and I continue our conversation on his book Intelligent Intervention: The Missing Link in the History of Human Evolution.

Russell Scott - A big interest of yours is transhumanism (h+). H+ naturally sparks a great divide in its critics and supporters as man surges ever closer to artificially transforming the human species into, as you say “Gods”. The 2045 Initiative is a well-known project right now; where do you see man in 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, as it relates to transhumanism?

Robert Steven Thomas - Transhumanism does indeed expose both the best and worst in contemporary humanity Russell. While the division it creates may ultimately serve a useful purpose to mankind, much of it is unwarranted and simply the product of apathy and ignorance on the part of far too many people. In truth, transhumanism isn’t surging closer … we are already there! While it is likely many of the more remarkable and transformative H+ potentials are still decades away, the initial stages have already taken root and are here with us now.

Consider the Cochlear implant which allows the deaf to hear through an embedded computer chip ... Mentally driven - computer responsive, artificial limbs which provide mobility to those who suffer from “locked-in syndrome”and new implant-devices which respond to your own brain waves and are currently providing three dimensional vision to individuals who have non-functioning eyes or have been blind from birth. These creations presently exist and are being tested and used at this time by real people. While they remain a work-in-progress at this stage, they do actually function. Improvements on these devices will most certainly advance dramatically in the near future … and by near future I mean as measured in years, not decades. How can any reasonable person deny the use of these remarkable devices and the benefit of improving the quality of life for those who are unfortunately afflicted? Cannot the same be said about computer enhanced individual intelligence? Why not? Do we still have one foot too securely in the Dark Ages?


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augmentation is a logical next step.
An upgrade.
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They start out talking about becoming demi-gods, but when you criticize them they act like you're against cochlear implants and eye glasses.

How does being apathetic about becoming foe cyborg gods make one a dark age Luddite? At some point transhumanism is no longer a question about technological advancement, but is rather a series of heavy philosophical questions.

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These are new product attachments to be made and installed in mass. So naturally the lack of studies in long term health effects will be a major problem like it is with big Pharma. You can count on it.

Religion aside, Health should be enough to scare people away. They will have to spend millions on advertising to counter it.
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Organic life is a perfection that man-made junk crap will never be a match for.Transhumanism is a satanic anti-human ideology...a blasphemy.
If the time of final battle between true humans and dehumanized human-junk hybrids(borgs) ever arrives, i will be on the side of human resistance.

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Exciting times. So pissed I'm not younger. If I can make it long enough it wont matter though ;)
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Religion aside, Health should be enough to scare people away. They will have to spend millions on advertising to counter it.
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growlbear Don't try to shove the Lord aside, the whole thing is satanic through and through. A lot of people will find out to their eternal horror that there is literally Hell to pay if they die in their sins.

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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Looks like Crispr and similar genetic technologies are going to be another major player on the future direction humanity may take. Besides cyborgs and uploaded minds, we are probably going to see all kinds of unusual and exotic humanoids on this planet in the very near future.

I imagine a center fielder that can jump 20 feet in the air to deny a home run will take a lot of the fun out of the game. Even for people that undergo procedures to extend their lifespan indefinitely, should they be allowed to reproduce? If no one ever died, this world would get over crowded in a hurry. These technologies are going to lead to numerous legal and ethical discussions.
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Religion aside, Health should be enough to scare people away. They will have to spend millions on advertising to counter it.
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Don't try to shove the Lord aside, the whole thing is satanic through and through. A lot of people will find out to their eternal horror that there is literally Hell to pay if they die in their sins.

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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I don't think AC was attacking religion... he was making very valid points on poor medical research and typical public reaction.

Don't take things so personal.
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You lost me at "Fortean".
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Tranhumanist SCUM!
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Don't ever merge with a machine.
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Watch "The Money Masters" and read "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin to unveil the true enemy.
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You lost me at "Fortean".
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You don't know what it means?

Because If you and it turns you off, why are you on GLP?

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