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Hey Zeus User ID: 78926 United States 05/28/2006 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i vaguely recall what i said before on this subject. but it MUST have been along the lines of.... knowledge? the ultimate forbidden fruit you know how i KNOW? i read Revealations too! knowlege is a no-no don't kiss me there! LOL IMO and all I'm Working on a Mystery |
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Miscreant User ID: 278 United States 05/28/2006 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's whatever it is for the person holding the "idea" of it. For some, it's sex, for others, it's knowledge, for others it's exploration of different states of consciousness. For some it's the listed sins rendered in a book. Look at the replies. Those are all "forbidden fruits." It is that which you must "eat" of enough to find the Tree of Life. You can't get to the Tree of Life, without understanding knowledge (of the world). Once we bit the apple, there was no going back. No point in beating ourselves up over it. Spilt milk. Learning of our "nakedness," to my mind, means we learned that we are body (ego) and separate from Source. We left the garden of the consciousness of an animal, or baby, and discovered our individual self. Getting "punished" for it is that we now have to run this obstacle course of individuation and ego long enough before we say "I know there is more." This is when we truly start examining this ego self even if it means destruction. The beauty of it is, the only thing that is at risk of getting destroyed, is the ego. Guess where the Tree of Life is? In the center of the garden. The World Tree. 99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught. -Buckminster Fuller |
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Miscreant User ID: 278 United States 05/28/2006 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Zeus! The outer is just a reflection of the inner, IMO. If you run away from the things that you fear (in you), such as shame, guilt, dogma, they will haunt you. Distortions are created through misunderstanding your inner self. Avoiding what creates these emotions to arise, gives them power. That's why there's so much perversion within organized religions. It's the supression and misunderstandings of one's own desires that prevents one from looking at them clearly. I like what you said about needing to find out if there was "really" a God, even though there was never a time without God. I think that is a good way to describe the bravery one has to take when looking at their own mirrors, God being the biggest grandaddy mirror of them all. Taking a hammer to this mirror means you'll destroy it in order to find out if it's real. It's a huge risk and not for the faint-hearted. Once the mirror breaks, the illusion is dispelled, and all you can do is laugh at what a fantasticly beautiful and perfect way it was all set up. The mirror must break to see behind it and find what you're looking for. Well worth all the suspense, nail-biting and drama of it all. The sheer BEAUTY of it. How's that for yada yada? 99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught. -Buckminster Fuller |
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miscreant User ID: 278 United States 05/28/2006 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd really like to know once and for all why people post threads asking for a discussion, yet needing none at all, since they already have the answer. WTF do YOU think gnostics are? Not a cult, not a believer, not a group, no bible, no creed, no ideologies. A gnostic is simply a person who prefers experience with the Godmind (gnosis) over belief (fantasy). |
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miscreant User ID: 278 United States 05/28/2006 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I don't call myself a gnostic in real life. It's only the closest label I can use in the word-world of the forum. Call me a happy bunny for all I care. The words were not "trotted out," not canned, did not come from some outside authority and were given from my experience. You don't have to agree with the contribution, but passing so many unwarranted, false judgements shows me that you can't come CLOSE to knowing the topic. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 99098 India 05/28/2006 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Poor, poor 278, wants so bad to have his gnostic fucktard doctrine heeded. But he won't go away and make his own thread, because little gnostic fucktards can't get anyone to heed their wise pronouncements unless they sneak them into some non-fucktard thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28145330 United States 11/21/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a theory...The forbidden fruit was exactly that just fruit...the problem is that god said not to eat that particular fruit.So in doing so, right there, revealed to them the knowledge of the option to disobey god or to CHOOSE between good and evil.Before that they probably did not know,that they even had the option to disobey god.So the problem is choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12083851 United States 11/21/2012 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (If you think Jesus was a "pacifist" you haven't read the part where he beat up the jewish bankers in the temple and bodily threw them out) Quoting: insurgent 99098 Your remembering that part wrong. In Luke it states he drove them out. In John he did the same and drove them out with a whip he made from chords and over turned the tables scattered the coins also drove away the sheep and cattle. But nothing about him "beating" up a person. Angry yes.......beating up others.....no. |
live and let live User ID: 9457194 United States 11/21/2012 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have given you every herb and every tree that bears fruit that bears seed to you it shall be for meat(food) you know like thou shall not kill---this does not just mean humans rather applies to all god's creatures this is what has been covered up and why we were booted out of the garden becuz we started killing his creatures and devouring them which the fallen angels showed us how to do |
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King Julian The Boy Prophet User ID: 5217367 United States 11/21/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the forbidden fruit is flesh Quoting: live and let live 9457194 i have given you every herb and every tree that bears fruit that bears seed to you it shall be for meat(food) you know like thou shall not kill---this does not just mean humans rather applies to all god's creatures this is what has been covered up and why we were booted out of the garden becuz we started killing his creatures and devouring them which the fallen angels showed us how to do Don't be ridiculous, we humans love a good steak. God has spoken!(canine teeth) |
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