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Personally? I think the influx of comets is due to our alignment with the Milky way ecliptic. Since we bounce up and down, it's been calculated that every 35 million years or so we cross this plane of space where there is higher activity and the age of the craters in our solar system confirm this. Dinosaur ELE was 65 million years ago, an approximate fit to the model:

Comet Strikes Increase As We Pass Through Galactic Plane:

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*I should add to the above that that cometary increase in terms of human time is a moot point and does not explain the cometary increase 'lately' when talking in millions ... it's more or less a generality which we can verify TO be true.
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in a binary system the center of gravity in the solar system would be in the middle of the 2 stars.
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Only if both stars have the same mass.

If one of the stars is heavier, the barycenter is closer to the heavier star.

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Wrong - it's about 1/3 - though the majority of brown dwarf stars have companions.
Only few sunlike stars have a companion.

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Hydra, may I ask, what are your thoughts on the theory? Do you think it is possible that a) we are in a binary system and b) that close proximity of the twin star is causing solar system weirdness?
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a) Let me star with the "Binary Research Institute".
The original name was "Sirius Research Institute" and they claimed, Sirius is our binary star (thus their claim of the precession of the equinixes). After their hypothesis was debunked, they renemed it to BRI.

Sirius is about 6 light years away and has a smaller companion.
The Alpha Centauri system is only 4 ly away and has about the same mass as the Sirius system.
Thus the gravitational influence of the Alpha Centauri system would be much greater and if our sun had a binary, it would be Alpha Centaury.
Unfortunatale the sun and Alpha Centauri move through space in a way that rules out a binary connection.

Neither IRAS nor WISE have shown an object that could be a brown dwarf star or a bigger planet in the vicinity of our solar system.

b) There is a hypothesis that some million years ago a small star, brown dwarf or a free floating planet passed our solar system and disturbed the Ooort's Cloud, sending objects on a million years long journey to the inner solar system.

Also our neighbouring stars, especially the Alpha Centauri system disturbe the Ooort's Cloud. These perturbations will increase since in the next 25,000 years Alpha and Proxima Centauri will approach to the sun up to 3 ly (the comets will be here in some 100,000 to million years:))

Last but not least the objects on the Oort's Cloud disturbe themself, collide and send other objects in the direction of our sun.

Thus no binary star is necessary for comets from the Oort's Cloud - btw. no astronomer rules out that there might be another planet some hundred or thousand AU out but according to the IRAS and WISE data the chance is almost zero.

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your wrong. by definition; intra celestial comets prove binary star orbit within a defined area equal to ventricular motion of said stars orbit. which is proved by the intra orbital wobble of said stars core.

it also proves that stars produce planets via ventricular motion and wobble of core.

this can be seen by the "scar" of mercury. made up of rapidly cooled gasses, which are moving slower then other atomic structures on mercury. this means that mercury was sling shot from the core of the sun.
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Can you provide any evidence for this? Any calculations?

No?

OK - Nice woo-woo.

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I really must note that the most direct opposition to the theory expressed in this thread seems to be coming out of Germany. Most notably Hydra, but there have been a couple ACs as well.

I wonder why that is?

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Actually a binary star system is the norm in the universe, isn´t it?
We would be an exception.
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Just jumped in? How about reading the thread?

Again: Only 1/3 of the known stars are in a binary or multiple star system (with 1/2 of brown dwarf stars having a companion).
Only a minority of sunlike stars have companions.

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This would put it into the Kuiper Belt - within the orbit of Sedna and only six times further then Pluto or ten times further than Neptune.

Good bye Uranus and Neptune, Pluto, Sedna, Eris, ...

If there would be a binary to our sun, it never could come closer than 2 ly or it would already have disrupted the Solar system completely.

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That would depend on its mass, really. And, I would consider the more than 14 extra-solar comets entering the inner solar system to be a disruption, wouldn't you? And this just may be the beginning of the disruptions.
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Ah, got the "information" from New Thor.

There are hundreds of comets with an eccentricity of >=1 (parabolic or hyperbolic orbit) discovered since the invention of the telescope in the 17th century.

Any evidence that
a) the comets are "extra-solar (besides NT claim)?
b) 14 comets with an eccentricity of >=1 in a year are somthing special (besides NT claim)?

How about not relying on GLP "information" but do your own research by avoiding lessons from the University of YouTube and woo-woo websites?

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iamwith

You do realize that by telling me not to rely on GLP for information, you are telling me not to listen to you as well, seeing as you are giving me information via GLP.
And last I checked, Binary Research Institute is not GLP.
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I include me too - If you would do a proper research you wouldn't need GLP.

And BRI is just another woo-woo site - pseudoscience. If you would do the math you would recognice this.

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That would depend on its mass, really. And, I would consider the more than 14 extra-solar comets entering the inner solar system to be a disruption, wouldn't you? And this just may be the beginning of the disruptions.
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Ah, got the "information" from New Thor.

There are hundreds of comets with an eccentricity of >=1 (parabolic or hyperbolic orbit) discovered since the invention of the telescope in the 17th century.

Any evidence that
a) the comets are "extra-solar (besides NT claim)?
b) 14 comets with an eccentricity of >=1 in a year are somthing special (besides NT claim)?

How about not relying on GLP "information" but do your own research by avoiding lessons from the University of YouTube and woo-woo websites?

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iamwith

You do realize that by telling me not to rely on GLP for information, you are telling me not to listen to you as well, seeing as you are giving me information via GLP.
And last I checked, Binary Research Institute is not GLP.
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I include me too - If you would do a proper research you wouldn't need GLP.

And BRI is just another woo-woo site - pseudoscience. If you would do the math you would recognice this.

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For some reason, I am doubting you have done the math.

Are you by chance in Bavaria, maybe near Munich?
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I really must note that the most direct opposition to the theory expressed in this thread seems to be coming out of Germany. Most notably Hydra, but there have been a couple ACs as well.

I wonder why that is?
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May be the European education system is better and we can do the math.
(Not meant as an insult.)

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I really must note that the most direct opposition to the theory expressed in this thread seems to be coming out of Germany. Most notably Hydra, but there have been a couple ACs as well.

I wonder why that is?
 Quoting: Tantalus

May be the European education system is better and we can do the math.
(Not meant as an insult.)

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No, no, I think there is another reason.
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No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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Ah, got the "information" from New Thor.

There are hundreds of comets with an eccentricity of >=1 (parabolic or hyperbolic orbit) discovered since the invention of the telescope in the 17th century.

Any evidence that
a) the comets are "extra-solar (besides NT claim)?
b) 14 comets with an eccentricity of >=1 in a year are somthing special (besides NT claim)?

How about not relying on GLP "information" but do your own research by avoiding lessons from the University of YouTube and woo-woo websites?

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iamwith

You do realize that by telling me not to rely on GLP for information, you are telling me not to listen to you as well, seeing as you are giving me information via GLP.
And last I checked, Binary Research Institute is not GLP.
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I include me too - If you would do a proper research you wouldn't need GLP.

And BRI is just another woo-woo site - pseudoscience. If you would do the math you would recognice this.

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For some reason, I am doubting you have done the math.
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I did it some time ago for a similar thread.

Just the summary:
The former Sirius Research Institute claimed that the precession of the equinoxes is caused by the sun orbiting around Sirius.
The precession is about 26,000 years, the distance Sirius - Sun is 8.6 ly, the combined mass of Sirius A and B is about 3 M-sol, thus the barycenter is located roughly 1/3 to Sirius.
The speed of the sun at periapsis (closest point to Sirius) would exceed the galactic escape velocity, the solar system would expelled from the Milky Way.

Same applies to the Alpha Centaury system. Though it's closer to the sun, the speed at periapsis still exceeds the galactic escape velocity.

It's simple trigonometry and simple physical laws.


Are you by chance in Bavaria, maybe near Munich?
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No - north.

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I really must note that the most direct opposition to the theory expressed in this thread seems to be coming out of Germany. Most notably Hydra, but there have been a couple ACs as well.

I wonder why that is?
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May be the European education system is better and we can do the math.
(Not meant as an insult.)

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No, no, I think there is another reason.
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And that could be?

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I really must note that the most direct opposition to the theory expressed in this thread seems to be coming out of Germany. Most notably Hydra, but there have been a couple ACs as well.

I wonder why that is?
 Quoting: Tantalus

May be the European education system is better and we can do the math.
(Not meant as an insult.)

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 Quoting: Hydra


No, no, I think there is another reason.
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And that could be?

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You really like me, and you enjoy bumping my thread.
Right......RIGHT?!?! No?

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I did read the article link for this thread.I didn't understand it all,but I do believe in the theory.THanks for the info. I do have one question concerning the binary system. THe article stated that both "stars" orbit around a central object,but I don't recall seeing what this central object is theorized to be in our system. Any idea what it may be? ALso, I apologize if this has already been answered, just point me to the page. Just wanted an answer b4 the thread "died".
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This is basic vedic astronomy.

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I did read the article link for this thread.I didn't understand it all,but I do believe in the theory.THanks for the info. I do have one question concerning the binary system. THe article stated that both "stars" orbit around a central object,but I don't recall seeing what this central object is theorized to be in our system. Any idea what it may be? ALso, I apologize if this has already been answered, just point me to the page. Just wanted an answer b4 the thread "died".
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It is called a barycenter. It is a common center of the combined mass of two or more orbiting objects. It is not an object itself, it is just a relative point in space. The barycenter is always closer to the most massive object.

Imagine a balance, with a light weight on one side, and a heavier weight on the other. In order to achieve balance, the fulcrum must be closer to the heavier object, to provide more leverage to the lighter object. A barycenter is where the fulcrum would have to be in order to achieve balance.

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"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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The words "narrow band" just about scared the shit out of me. What is this narrow band?
Good article OP.
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nasa.gov

Somebody once said that "2 out of every 3 stars are in a binary". Seriously, the fraction is very high, but it's difficult to be precise, because it's difficult to prove that a certain star is definitely single. Of the stars nearest to the Sun, about half are known to be in multiple systems.
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Wrong - it's about 1/3 - though the majority of brown dwarf stars have companions.
Only few sunlike stars have a companion.

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Hydra, may I ask, what are your thoughts on the theory? Do you think it is possible that a) we are in a binary system and b) that close proximity of the twin star is causing solar system weirdness?
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a) Let me star with the "Binary Research Institute".
The original name was "Sirius Research Institute" and they claimed, Sirius is our binary star (thus their claim of the precession of the equinixes). After their hypothesis was debunked, they renemed it to BRI.

Sirius is about 6 light years away and has a smaller companion.
The Alpha Centauri system is only 4 ly away and has about the same mass as the Sirius system.
Thus the gravitational influence of the Alpha Centauri system would be much greater and if our sun had a binary, it would be Alpha Centaury.
Unfortunatale the sun and Alpha Centauri move through space in a way that rules out a binary connection.

Neither IRAS nor WISE have shown an object that could be a brown dwarf star or a bigger planet in the vicinity of our solar system.

b) There is a hypothesis that some million years ago a small star, brown dwarf or a free floating planet passed our solar system and disturbed the Ooort's Cloud, sending objects on a million years long journey to the inner solar system.

Also our neighbouring stars, especially the Alpha Centauri system disturbe the Ooort's Cloud. These perturbations will increase since in the next 25,000 years Alpha and Proxima Centauri will approach to the sun up to 3 ly (the comets will be here in some 100,000 to million years:))

Last but not least the objects on the Oort's Cloud disturbe themself, collide and send other objects in the direction of our sun.

Thus no binary star is necessary for comets from the Oort's Cloud - btw. no astronomer rules out that there might be another planet some hundred or thousand AU out but according to the IRAS and WISE data the chance is almost zero.

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Somebody once said that "2 out of every 3 stars are in a binary". Seriously, the fraction is very high, but it's difficult to be precise, because it's difficult to prove that a certain star is definitely single. Of the stars nearest to the Sun, about half are known to be in multiple systems.
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Wrong - it's about 1/3 - though the majority of brown dwarf stars have companions.
Only few sunlike stars have a companion.

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EVIDENCE

Binary Star Prevalence

"There are many common misconceptions about binary star systems, one of the most common myths is that binary star systems are the cosmic oddity and that single star systems are the most prevalent, when, in fact, the opposite is true. 50 years ago binary stars were considered a rarity. Now, most of the stars in our galaxy are known to be paired with a companion or multiple partners....."


[link to www.binaryresearchinstitute.org]

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And this is wrong (but fits their agenda and helps selling books).

Only 1/3 of all known stars (brown dwarf stars included) in our galaxy are binary or multiple star systems.
About 1/2 of brown Dwarf stars are binaries or multiples.
Most sunlike stars are single.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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ok. Everyone has their own theory..what they were taught and dirivetives there of..but seriously..ABOVE ALL we have not been informed of what the men of science have truely figured out about our own universe let alone whats REALLY out there. We are being hidden from the knowledge thus preventing us from becoming equals. Its all about power and control. To people like myself, I have learned much from science and more from 8nstint. Why do you think we were created with free will? Not to be controlled- but to be curious. The veil will lift for you or maybe not..either way the only real truth to any facts on this whole thread is that WE really dont know exactly what is causing the activity in the cosmos recently. ..but OP's thread is more than logical to how most people; (I hope are left to rebuild this world) and myself FEEL.

We are infants to the knowledge that the universe will unfold.
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I did read the article link for this thread.I didn't understand it all,but I do believe in the theory.THanks for the info. I do have one question concerning the binary system. THe article stated that both "stars" orbit around a central object,but I don't recall seeing what this central object is theorized to be in our system. Any idea what it may be? ALso, I apologize if this has already been answered, just point me to the page. Just wanted an answer b4 the thread "died".
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It is called a barycenter. It is a common center of the combined mass of two or more orbiting objects. It is not an object itself, it is just a relative point in space. The barycenter is always closer to the most massive object.

Imagine a balance, with a light weight on one side, and a heavier weight on the other. In order to achieve balance, the fulcrum must be closer to the heavier object, to provide more leverage to the lighter object. A barycenter is where the fulcrum would have to be in order to achieve balance.
 Quoting: Tantalus


Got it.thanks for responding.The diagrams in the article show equal mass objects, I am guessing, since their orbits appear equal. Are there any theories showing that our sun and it's binary are of differing masses?Also, are there any theories as to where this center of gravity would be?
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yOU Are right OP


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You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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I did read the article link for this thread.I didn't understand it all,but I do believe in the theory.THanks for the info. I do have one question concerning the binary system. THe article stated that both "stars" orbit around a central object,but I don't recall seeing what this central object is theorized to be in our system. Any idea what it may be? ALso, I apologize if this has already been answered, just point me to the page. Just wanted an answer b4 the thread "died".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6858912


It is called a barycenter. It is a common center of the combined mass of two or more orbiting objects. It is not an object itself, it is just a relative point in space. The barycenter is always closer to the most massive object.

Imagine a balance, with a light weight on one side, and a heavier weight on the other. In order to achieve balance, the fulcrum must be closer to the heavier object, to provide more leverage to the lighter object. A barycenter is where the fulcrum would have to be in order to achieve balance.
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Got it.thanks for responding.The diagrams in the article show equal mass objects, I am guessing, since their orbits appear equal. Are there any theories showing that our sun and it's binary are of differing masses?Also, are there any theories as to where this center of gravity would be?
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Yes, in fact, look up the research of one Richard Muller. He has a theory about an object he calls "Nemesis". As far as the barycenter, we would need a definitive mass to calculate that.
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No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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Re: Massive Influx of Comets indicates INCOMING STAR (SUNS BINARY PARTNER)
Actually a binary star system is the norm in the universe, isn´t it?
We would be an exception.
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Just jumped in? How about reading the thread?

Again: Only 1/3 of the known stars are in a binary or multiple star system (with 1/2 of brown dwarf stars having a companion).
Only a minority of sunlike stars have companions.

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Even though I believe that you and your percentages are full of shit, lets play it your way. We are probably in that 1/3 of star systems that are Binary dumbass


NASA suggests our Solar System may be a Binary Star System


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I think that the other stars perihelion may be as far as 30 - 50 billion miles, so it may not ever be visible in the ways one might expect, but that is sure close enough to knock some stuff around, and maybe even drop someone off.
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There is so much more info out there that supports this, that I am overwhelmed to the point of inaction. Go find it.

Last Edited by Tantalus on 11/19/2013 12:07 AM
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

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Re: Massive Influx of Comets indicates INCOMING STAR (SUNS BINARY PARTNER)
Actually a binary star system is the norm in the universe, isn´t it?
We would be an exception.
 Quoting: A r c t u r u s

Just jumped in? How about reading the thread?

Again: Only 1/3 of the known stars are in a binary or multiple star system (with 1/2 of brown dwarf stars having a companion).
Only a minority of sunlike stars have companions.

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Even though I believe that you and your percentages are full of shit, lets play it your way. We are probably in that 1/3 of star systems that are Binary dumbass


NASA suggests our Solar System may be a Binary Star System



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Ad hominem noted.

From the 2010 article mentioned in the video:
"NASA's newest telescope, the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE), may be able to answer the question about Nemesis once and for all."

The WISE survey is completed, the majority of data is examined with the result: no such thing as Nemesis.
The chance to find it in the few not yet examined data leans towards zero.

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Wrong - it's about 1/3 - though the majority of brown dwarf stars have companions.
Only few sunlike stars have a companion.

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Hydra, may I ask, what are your thoughts on the theory? Do you think it is possible that a) we are in a binary system and b) that close proximity of the twin star is causing solar system weirdness?
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a) Let me star with the "Binary Research Institute".
The original name was "Sirius Research Institute" and they claimed, Sirius is our binary star (thus their claim of the precession of the equinixes). After their hypothesis was debunked, they renemed it to BRI.

Sirius is about 6 light years away and has a smaller companion.
The Alpha Centauri system is only 4 ly away and has about the same mass as the Sirius system.
Thus the gravitational influence of the Alpha Centauri system would be much greater and if our sun had a binary, it would be Alpha Centaury.
Unfortunatale the sun and Alpha Centauri move through space in a way that rules out a binary connection.

Neither IRAS nor WISE have shown an object that could be a brown dwarf star or a bigger planet in the vicinity of our solar system.

b) There is a hypothesis that some million years ago a small star, brown dwarf or a free floating planet passed our solar system and disturbed the Ooort's Cloud, sending objects on a million years long journey to the inner solar system.

Also our neighbouring stars, especially the Alpha Centauri system disturbe the Ooort's Cloud. These perturbations will increase since in the next 25,000 years Alpha and Proxima Centauri will approach to the sun up to 3 ly (the comets will be here in some 100,000 to million years:))

Last but not least the objects on the Oort's Cloud disturbe themself, collide and send other objects in the direction of our sun.

Thus no binary star is necessary for comets from the Oort's Cloud - btw. no astronomer rules out that there might be another planet some hundred or thousand AU out but according to the IRAS and WISE data the chance is almost zero.

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Its time to maybe unlearn what you have been taught
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Are you telling to "unlearn" Newtons and Keplers laws, to unlearn the theorem of Pythagoras and other trigonometric rules, ... ?

:brainuseit:

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I see some of the shills were here to try to debunk (Impossible at this stage) and some of them were just here reading but did'nt care to comment.

Now the same shills will be asking themselves how i know that.
Heh..heh...HEH
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So, if there is a binary partner to our sun, why would they want to keep it a secret? What would be the big deal?

Well?
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So, if there is a binary partner to our sun, why would they want to keep it a secret? What would be the big deal?

Well?
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Cyclical catastrophism and how the elites always prep and with each time their likes are even more advanced, compared to the few survivors who did not preps and have no survival/living of nature knowledge.

Something like that.
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So, if there is a binary partner to our sun, why would they want to keep it a secret? What would be the big deal?

Well?
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Cyclical catastrophism and how the elites always prep and with each time their likes are even more advanced, compared to the few survivors who did not preps and have no survival/living of nature knowledge.

Something like that.
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So, whats the bigger picture? Why do they do that?

Is there a point to what you described essentially as the containment of the human race on planet earth?

How often does this cyclic catastrophe occur?

Who lives long enough to care?
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So, if there is a binary partner to our sun, why would they want to keep it a secret? What would be the big deal?

Well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35573402


Cyclical catastrophism and how the elites always prep and with each time their likes are even more advanced, compared to the few survivors who did not preps and have no survival/living of nature knowledge.

Something like that.
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So, whats the bigger picture? Why do they do that?

Is there a point to what you described essentially as the containment of the human race on planet earth?

How often does this cyclic catastrophe occur?

Who lives long enough to care?
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The bigger picture???
That is it, people who are very selfish (as evident from their behaviour) will save themselves, crawl out of their bunkers and be as gods.(Compared to any lucky surface survivor.)

After such a scenario it is obvious that the people who would care(as you put it)would be the bunker elite and their family tree, which can go on and on and on.

Their offspring will take over.

I could not tell you as to how many years pass inbetween such disasters.

Hope you get it.
My way of thinking, i am not demanding that you or anyone else believe it.

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