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Do we as well as Animals have souls?

 
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Do we as well as Animals have souls?
I was thinking today, It does not matter if one is Christin, Hindu, Muslum, Atheist, Taoist or whatever, do we have souls? I understand The Christian Faith, Muslums, Hindus and most other faiths believe we do, but is there any actual evidence through science or other outlets besides religion that people or animals have souls or something close to that. Not spirits but souls. I was perplexed today thinking about that. I think about random things such as that a lot, because I guess you could call me a "Dreamer" or "Thinker". It does not matter what one believes "Where the soul goes", I am just trying to figure out if there is any evidence that a soul exists, I am not talking about a spirit, but a soul. I under stand "holy books" explain that we do, but is there any evidence outside of "holy books" that point to people or Animals have a soul. The question is not "If we have a soul where does it go" but rather does a soul exist in the human body? Thanks for your imput, I have been pondering on this all day.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
They are in a sense "souls" so I guess your asking
if they are what they have.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Muslims have no souls
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Most of us have souls. Most animals do not.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Most of us have souls. Most animals do not.
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I appreciate your reply, but is this your Oppinion or do you have a source of info? You have some link info or something i could view?
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Most of us have souls. Most animals do not.
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I appreciate your reply, but is this your Oppinion or do you have a source of info? You have some link info or something i could view?
 Quoting: Kamindaki


Everything you can sense has a soul.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Most of us have souls. Most animals do not.
 Quoting: Mr. Know-it-all 31622328


I appreciate your reply, but is this your Oppinion or do you have a source of info? You have some link info or something i could view?
 Quoting: Kamindaki


Everything you can sense has a soul.
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If you are looking for some sort of proof you are out of luck. Anything of true value cannot be proven, it is just known. It is referred to as gnosis.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Most of us have souls. Most animals do not.
 Quoting: Mr. Know-it-all 31622328


I appreciate your reply, but is this your Oppinion or do you have a source of info? You have some link info or something i could view?
 Quoting: Kamindaki


www.zetatalk.com/rules/r10.htm
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
spirit (energy) is the underlying 'life force' of all living things and it is not stagnant, but in a state of transition.
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spirit (energy) is the underlying 'life force' of all living things and it is not stagnant, but in a state of transition.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


hmm I never thought of it like that. thanks for your reply.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
spirit (energy) is the underlying 'life force' of all living things and it is not stagnant, but in a state of transition.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


hmm I never thought of it like that. thanks for your reply.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


No problem.

Matter cannot create energy.

The physical conception of an embryo does not create energy (spirit), it only creates the physical, biological vessel that the energy (spirit) comes to inhabit.

When the physical vessel 'dies' and can no longer sustain its life force, the energy (spirit) returns to where it originated from.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
spirit (energy) is the underlying 'life force' of all living things and it is not stagnant, but in a state of transition.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


hmm I never thought of it like that. thanks for your reply.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


No problem.

Matter cannot create energy.

The physical conception of an embryo does not create energy (spirit), it only creates the physical, biological vessel that the energy (spirit) comes to inhabit.

When the physical vessel 'dies' and can no longer sustain its life force, the energy (spirit) returns to where it originated from.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Any Ideas to which it Originated?
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Any Ideas to which it Originated?
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A non-physical dimension of existence. Potentially one of MANY.

As far as I have surmised this plane we are experiencing is the equivalent of a 'sub-reality' - it is part of an infinitely larger 'higher reality' of existence. What we are currently observing and experiencing is a very small part of the entire spectrum & totality of existence.

Just my perspective/findings anyway.

peace
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Any Ideas to which it Originated?
 Quoting: Kamindaki


A non-physical dimension of existence. Potentially one of MANY.

As far as I have surmised this plane we are experiencing is the equivalent of a 'sub-reality' - it is part of an infinitely larger 'higher reality' of existence. We are observing and experiencing a very small spectrum of the potential totality of existence.

Just my perspective/findings anyway.

peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I had that inkling suspicion as well, that we possibly had a "life" of some sorts before our births into this world, a matter a fact, before conception.
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I had that inkling suspicion as well, that we possibly had a "life" of some sorts before our births into this world, a matter a fact, before conception.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


You know when you wake up from a strange dream and you may experience that reassuring feeling that you are 'back to (or in) reality'? Well I imagine the effect may be somewhat similar when you 'die'. I believe there is an initial readjustment period but that eventually you will come to recognize the non-physical state as your base 'reality', one that you have already experienced before, and this current physical lifetime will be looked upon in a context similar to that of the 'dream' state (not that it will be dismissed or written off as unimportant though). You had these temporary experiences and now you are back to your base state of existence.
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“What is the difference between monad, soul and spirit?”

“The term monad means that simple, indivisible unit which owns sense for itself and unfolds from it forces which work outward. Whereby there are tunings here, of unconscious monad to conscious ones. Thus, the soul is a conscious monad, a stone of the whole world. The uppermost monad is, so to speak, God, whereby each monad has to go through all hierarchies.
She has to pass through every area of life, namely by the mineral empire as a germ, then by the plant kingdom, the animal kingdom and by the development of the child into the human realm. The monad stands behind the growing up embryo and develops its body, so that he becomes human, until you return, in the end; again back into the source, back in God's monad. The monads form the realms or classes of the monads, which emerge.
The single element begins its long developing way, while it from the lap of the divine develops its own divinity. In other words, it has its own monad being already in itself; however, it must attain the I-conscious realization of this divine monad being. Then the monad moves slowly by each realm: The stone, i.e. the monad in the stone becomes a plant; the plant an animal; the animal a person; the person a God.
The soul is the connecting instance between the super temporal, not material, perfect self and the temporal, subject-afflicted mostly imperfect personality. The soul reveals itself as individual information for the person, as his completely personal consciousness. The light, which all souls radiate, causes the progress of the world and the ascent of its peoples. All things have inevitably a cause, a driving strength, an animating reason. These souls, symbols of the detachment, have given the highest stimulating impulse to the world of the existence and will give her furthermore. The soul is an incomplete product. It is a development. Unique, but not individually - it is a part of a group expression.
Spirit in this respect is a difficult term because it goes into the transcendental. I try to define spirit, however, for the purposes of the connection with the soul: It is the transcendent component in the person, thus the monad or the self. The life, „the spirit“, is impersonally, anonymous.
The connection of the classical trichotomy „body, soul and spirit“ends, when humans finish the “earthly life”. Under no circumstances, the death of a human destroys something of the life itself. Spirit shows up as a totality of the physical laws and orders, which hide behind the expiries of the inanimate nature. “
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
To quote from another thread somewhere on GLP, " We don't HAVE a soul, we ARE a soul - we HAVE a physical body.

Same goes for animals. These bodies are simply a physical interface so that the soul can experience this physical realm.

The soul, or spirit that animates the numerous lifeforms is eternally the same, it just aquires different bodies to operate through according to it's karma and the will of the almighty.
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If it lives it has a soul. There are many levels of consciousness. How anything plays out is a mystery to all of us. If you abuse an animal then you are interfere with their development which is bad for your soul.
If you look at some really bad people you might wonder if they have a soul. They do. May not be a strong one but it is there. Some people don't seem to act as human and seem more like animals.
If you have animals in your life you see each has their own unique personality. They may not be capable of complex thought and are limited in communications.
Look at your life. Do you feel your soul or feed the animal? Do you try to help others in their journey or are you selfish and only feed your journey?
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yes they have, but they are not worth much.
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
when they are sacrificed, that is
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Re: Do we as well as Animals have souls?
Animals have souls.
Man has a soul and a spirit.
At death that spirit goes to Heaven or Hell.
At the Resurrection those spirits in Heaven will be
joined to their resurrection bodies, which will be
just like the body Jesus has now.

They will rise out of the graves and ascend to meet Jesus
in the air. Those who are saved and alive at that time
will be instantly changed and given immortal resurrection bodies
and will also rise to meet Jesus in the air.

The spirits in hell will remain there for Christ's millennial reign
on Earth, and will be resurrected at the Great White Throne
Judgment, when they will finally be sentenced to join
the beast and the false prophet,
and Lucifer and the fallen angels
in the Lake of Fire.
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I was thinking today, It does not matter if one is Christin, Hindu, Muslum, Atheist, Taoist or whatever, do we have souls? I understand The Christian Faith, Muslums, Hindus and most other faiths believe we do, but is there any actual evidence through science or other outlets besides religion that people or animals have souls or something close to that. Not spirits but souls. I was perplexed today thinking about that. I think about random things such as that a lot, because I guess you could call me a "Dreamer" or "Thinker". It does not matter what one believes "Where the soul goes", I am just trying to figure out if there is any evidence that a soul exists, I am not talking about a spirit, but a soul. I under stand "holy books" explain that we do, but is there any evidence outside of "holy books" that point to people or Animals have a soul. The question is not "If we have a soul where does it go" but rather does a soul exist in the human body? Thanks for your imput, I have been pondering on this all day.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


You're not the blond woman previously on youtube video asking if dogs have brains - are YOU?
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I was thinking today, It does not matter if one is Christin, Hindu, Muslum, Atheist, Taoist or whatever, do we have souls? I understand The Christian Faith, Muslums, Hindus and most other faiths believe we do, but is there any actual evidence through science or other outlets besides religion that people or animals have souls or something close to that. Not spirits but souls. I was perplexed today thinking about that. I think about random things such as that a lot, because I guess you could call me a "Dreamer" or "Thinker". It does not matter what one believes "Where the soul goes", I am just trying to figure out if there is any evidence that a soul exists, I am not talking about a spirit, but a soul. I under stand "holy books" explain that we do, but is there any evidence outside of "holy books" that point to people or Animals have a soul. The question is not "If we have a soul where does it go" but rather does a soul exist in the human body? Thanks for your imput, I have been pondering on this all day.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


You're not the blond woman previously on youtube video asking if dogs have brains - are YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48475848


No I am the one on the internet that does not take an answer and just belive it, I question everything.
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I was thinking today, It does not matter if one is Christin, Hindu, Muslum, Atheist, Taoist or whatever, do we have souls? I understand The Christian Faith, Muslums, Hindus and most other faiths believe we do, but is there any actual evidence through science or other outlets besides religion that people or animals have souls or something close to that. Not spirits but souls. I was perplexed today thinking about that. I think about random things such as that a lot, because I guess you could call me a "Dreamer" or "Thinker". It does not matter what one believes "Where the soul goes", I am just trying to figure out if there is any evidence that a soul exists, I am not talking about a spirit, but a soul. I under stand "holy books" explain that we do, but is there any evidence outside of "holy books" that point to people or Animals have a soul. The question is not "If we have a soul where does it go" but rather does a soul exist in the human body? Thanks for your imput, I have been pondering on this all day.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


You're not the blond woman previously on youtube video asking if dogs have brains - are YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48475848


No I am the one on the internet that does not take an answer and just belive it, I question everything.
 Quoting: Kamindaki



Thank God it wasn't you.

So what kind of answer are you looking for? Lots of people have given you several answers, are you still questioning and not satisfied?
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I was thinking today, It does not matter if one is Christin, Hindu, Muslum, Atheist, Taoist or whatever, do we have souls? I understand The Christian Faith, Muslums, Hindus and most other faiths believe we do, but is there any actual evidence through science or other outlets besides religion that people or animals have souls or something close to that. Not spirits but souls. I was perplexed today thinking about that. I think about random things such as that a lot, because I guess you could call me a "Dreamer" or "Thinker". It does not matter what one believes "Where the soul goes", I am just trying to figure out if there is any evidence that a soul exists, I am not talking about a spirit, but a soul. I under stand "holy books" explain that we do, but is there any evidence outside of "holy books" that point to people or Animals have a soul. The question is not "If we have a soul where does it go" but rather does a soul exist in the human body? Thanks for your imput, I have been pondering on this all day.
 Quoting: Kamindaki


You're not the blond woman previously on youtube video asking if dogs have brains - are YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48475848


No I am the one on the internet that does not take an answer and just belive it, I question everything.
 Quoting: Kamindaki



Thank God it wasn't you.

So what kind of answer are you looking for? Lots of people have given you several answers, are you still questioning and not satisfied?
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O no, I have learned quiet a bit in just the few answers, some things that were stated above I have never thought of in that way bfore.
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O no, I have learned quiet a bit in just the few answers, some things that were stated above I have never thought of in that way bfore.

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So, the question is, are you still questioning?
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O no, I have learned quiet a bit in just the few answers, some things that were stated above I have never thought of in that way bfore.

 Quoting: Kamindaki



So, the question is, are you still questioning?
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Yes I am because I do not deal in absolutes.





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