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Question for the Netherlands (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US. Quoting: Kip TV 14748444 Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal. Problem solved. It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it. Its legally falls under manslaughter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44171044 Finland 11/22/2013 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US. Quoting: Kip TV 14748444 Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal. Problem solved. It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it. Its legally falls under manslaughter. That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it). In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk). I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly. |
Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US. Quoting: Kip TV 14748444 Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal. Problem solved. It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it. Its legally falls under manslaughter. That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it). In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk). I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly. who am I to deny them ? Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't. that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution. Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44171044 Finland 11/22/2013 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US. Quoting: Kip TV 14748444 Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal. Problem solved. It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it. Its legally falls under manslaughter. That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it). In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk). I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly. who am I to deny them ? Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't. that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution. Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc.. That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot. My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means. I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made). |
Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Question for the Netherlands 49842274 It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it. Its legally falls under manslaughter. That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it). In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk). I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly. who am I to deny them ? Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't. that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution. Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc.. That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot. My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means. I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made). When the Majority doesn't make the laws, doesn't elect the politicians, and doesn't get to interpret the law, its a dictatorship, and I don't (yet) live in a dictatorship. |
Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless my goal is the change the constitution. That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too. That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants. So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too. I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44171044 Finland 11/22/2013 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: PilgriMage That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it). In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk). I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly. who am I to deny them ? Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't. that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution. Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc.. That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot. My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means. I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made). When the Majority doesn't make the laws, doesn't elect the politicians, and doesn't get to interpret the law, its a dictatorship, and I don't (yet) live in a dictatorship. You are totally missing the point here. Nobody said majority shouldn't APPROVE the laws.. but they shouldn't make laws that dictate issues that in no way concern their lives and personal rights. You make it sound like we should ask if every house should be blue because yours is and then make a law that FORCES everyone to have a blue house, just because "majority likes it". I don't think sex is that much different issue here. But as said, I don't share the common view about those things, therefore it is just an opinion of MINORITY. YOu have the choice to either accept it and let people live by it or try to FORCE ME (by laws) to live like you do and accept YOUR VIEW. That makes you a dictator really, not a protector. And you do live in a dictatorship anyways. You haven't seen the polls were almost ANY political new decision made by either Obama or the Senate goes against the will of "the people" there? You are totally kidding yourself if you think you are somehow in control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44171044 Finland 11/22/2013 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, even I have to follow the US Constitution. Quoting: Exeter 49842274 Unless my goal is the change the constitution. That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too. That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants. So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too. I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated. What are your state's current law about those prostitution things, if I may ask? |
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Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, even I have to follow the US Constitution. Quoting: Exeter 49842274 Unless my goal is the change the constitution. That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too. That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants. So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too. I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated. What are your state's current law about those prostitution things, if I may ask? Its illegal in the state of Arkansas. |
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Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lots of street hookers in the US. Probably most have all kinds of diseases because they don't care, just need the money for drugs. Quoting: Dirtyboy Exactly the kind of problem that could be eliminated by Licensing, Insuring, Unionizing, and taxing it. The street hookers would then better deserve to be arrested. Because "Sex Workers" would actually be clean honest people who want to do that for profession, they would have a fixed bricks and mortar facility that you can walk into, take an instant HIV test, show ID and your social security card and your health insurance card, sign a paper stating that you are 18 or older, you consent to sex, you are not under pressure or force, and you do not have any STDs. you're given a condom and you go into the back room. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 11/22/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard that prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. Quoting: Exeter 49842274 I am 100 %, positively sure that ALL sexually transmitted diseases are present in the Netherlands. This also includes the main BIG ONE, HIV that turns into AIDS either slowly with treatment, or more rapidly without. Only 1 % of all Europeans, are immune to the HIV virus types that are found in Europe, which are the same types 1 and 2 that are found here in the USA. That leaves a margin for a possibility that absolutely NO people that are from the Netherlands would be immune. :) Is street prostitution, without a license, without background checks, and without testing for HIV allowed in the Netherlands ? if yes, why ? do you want to get AIDS ? Prostitutes are a number 1 risk group, and therefore so are their customers, and visa versa. its legal in Nevada, USA as well. That doesn't mean its safe here either. |
Exeter (OP) User ID: 49842274 United States 11/22/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard that prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. Quoting: Exeter 49842274 I am 100 %, positively sure that ALL sexually transmitted diseases are present in the Netherlands. This also includes the main BIG ONE, HIV that turns into AIDS either slowly with treatment, or more rapidly without. Only 1 % of all Europeans, are immune to the HIV virus types that are found in Europe, which are the same types 1 and 2 that are found here in the USA. That leaves a margin for a possibility that absolutely NO people that are from the Netherlands would be immune. :) Is street prostitution, without a license, without background checks, and without testing for HIV allowed in the Netherlands ? if yes, why ? do you want to get AIDS ? Prostitutes are a number 1 risk group, and therefore so are their customers, and visa versa. its legal in Nevada, USA as well. That doesn't mean its safe here either. That's false, street prostitution is not legal in Nevada. You need a license and a facility, the bunny farm is the biggest. |