Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,238 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 374,066
Pageviews Today: 493,812Threads Today: 156Posts Today: 2,149
04:19 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Question for the Netherlands

 
Exeter
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 02:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Question for the Netherlands
I heard that prostitution is legal in the Netherlands.

I am 100 %, positively sure that ALL sexually transmitted diseases are present in the Netherlands.

This also includes the main BIG ONE, HIV that turns into AIDS either slowly with treatment, or more rapidly without.

Only 1 % of all Europeans, are immune to the HIV virus types that are found in Europe, which are the same types 1 and 2 that are found here in the USA.

That leaves a margin for a possibility that absolutely NO people that are from the Netherlands would be immune.
:)


Is street prostitution, without a license, without background checks, and without testing for HIV allowed in the Netherlands ?

if yes, why ?

do you want to get AIDS ?

Prostitutes are a number 1 risk group, and therefore so are their customers, and visa versa.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 02:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
HIV is both the most common, AND deadliest of the STDs.
2012Portal
2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012

User ID: 15022013
Netherlands
11/22/2013 02:23 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Street prostitution is not allowed. In designated shops, so to speak, it is. They have a union and they are tested three times a year or something like that for STD and what not.
From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear:
[link to graphicstart.com]
--- --- ---
"Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior"
Kip TV
User ID: 14748444
Netherlands
11/22/2013 02:44 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50390678
Germany
11/22/2013 02:50 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Kip TV 14748444


hesright
Question for the Netherlands (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 03:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Kip TV 14748444


It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it.

Its legally falls under manslaughter.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 04:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
All prostitutes once arrested, must be tested for HIV.
If they have HIV, all subsequent arrests for prostitution are felonies, as opposed to a misdemeanor that it was the first time.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44171044
Finland
11/22/2013 04:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Kip TV 14748444


It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it.

Its legally falls under manslaughter.
 Quoting: Question for the Netherlands 49842274


That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it).

In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk).

I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 04:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Kip TV 14748444


It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it.

Its legally falls under manslaughter.
 Quoting: Question for the Netherlands 49842274


That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it).

In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk).

I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly.
 Quoting: PilgriMage


who am I to deny them ?

Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't.

that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution.

Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc..
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 04:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because we have a choice as to what our laws are, doesn't mean this is a free country where there no laws.

excuse me, buddy !
Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44171044
Finland
11/22/2013 04:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Just because it is illegal, it does not mean there is no prostitution in the US.

Maybe the US should make transmitting HIV illegal. Then you can make prostitution legal.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Kip TV 14748444


It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it.

Its legally falls under manslaughter.
 Quoting: Question for the Netherlands 49842274


That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it).

In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk).

I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly.
 Quoting: PilgriMage


who am I to deny them ?

Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't.

that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution.

Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc..
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot.

My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means.

I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made).
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 04:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
...


It is illegal to transmit HIV here in the USA if you have been diagnosed with it.

Its legally falls under manslaughter.
 Quoting: Question for the Netherlands 49842274


That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it).

In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk).

I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly.
 Quoting: PilgriMage


who am I to deny them ?

Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't.

that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution.

Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc..
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot.

My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means.

I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made).
 Quoting: PilgriMage


When the Majority doesn't make the laws, doesn't elect the politicians, and doesn't get to interpret the law, its a dictatorship, and I don't (yet) live in a dictatorship.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 04:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Yes, even I have to follow the US Constitution.

Unless my goal is the change the constitution.

That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too.

That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants.

So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too.

I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44171044
Finland
11/22/2013 04:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
...


That goes to almost any western country, most of them already have convictions for people who have had sex without protection or failing to tell people they are carrying the disease (assuming they know it).

In a sense, using a 3 times a year tested prostitute is probably still at least as safe (or safere) as random hook ups from bars, as is the standard procedure. They are always drunk, often don't use protection and are in no shape to even remember to ask if someone has diseases or not. (Nor would they tell, especially being drunk).

I have no problem myself as I don't do casual sex relationships but if someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to sell, who am I to deny them. People do unsafe and stupid things daily in every aspect of their lives, sex is just one of them.. sadly.
 Quoting: PilgriMage


who am I to deny them ?

Im a voting citizen of the United states, and I have a say in what is legal, and what isn't.

that's who I am to deny LEGAL prostitution.

Though I am in favor of regulated sex trade, whereby they have a license, they are part of a union, they operate in a rented facility in a strip mall or something, and they get tested, have insurance, pay taxes etc..
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


That was not a question nor a statement against you. Just said that I have no need to deny it myself for other people who don't share my perspective for sex, relationships and whatnot.

My main concern is really with under aged people/children and their rights and protection. As long as someone isn't "officially" retard/mentally ill I think they should have the right to do as they wish. In practice we sell our "bodies" daily for some kind of work that we do (be it physical or.. a nice office job). So if somebody thinks he/she rather uses sex organs to pay her bills, by all means.

I don't think majority should dictate minorities lives in this kind of situations and EVERYONE is a minority in SOME part of their lives. Therefore we should give laws only to cover the basics and GIVE/PROTECT RIGHTS instead of deny/forbid/rule/oppress/sanction/force our own views -even if 50.1% of others agree with our current views (at that point when the law is made).
 Quoting: PilgriMage


When the Majority doesn't make the laws, doesn't elect the politicians, and doesn't get to interpret the law, its a dictatorship, and I don't (yet) live in a dictatorship.
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


You are totally missing the point here. Nobody said majority shouldn't APPROVE the laws.. but they shouldn't make laws that dictate issues that in no way concern their lives and personal rights. You make it sound like we should ask if every house should be blue because yours is and then make a law that FORCES everyone to have a blue house, just because "majority likes it". I don't think sex is that much different issue here. But as said, I don't share the common view about those things, therefore it is just an opinion of MINORITY. YOu have the choice to either accept it and let people live by it or try to FORCE ME (by laws) to live like you do and accept YOUR VIEW. That makes you a dictator really, not a protector.

And you do live in a dictatorship anyways. You haven't seen the polls were almost ANY political new decision made by either Obama or the Senate goes against the will of "the people" there? You are totally kidding yourself if you think you are somehow in control.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44171044
Finland
11/22/2013 04:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Yes, even I have to follow the US Constitution.

Unless my goal is the change the constitution.

That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too.

That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants.

So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too.

I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated.
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


What are your state's current law about those prostitution things, if I may ask?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42878131
Netherlands
11/22/2013 05:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Im pretty sure we dont rank high on STD statistics compared to other countries though im not sure.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 03:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Yes, even I have to follow the US Constitution.

Unless my goal is the change the constitution.

That would require ALL 50 states, a super majority of the Congress as well as the people too.

That is about as likely as getting struck my lightning and stomped be elephants.

So in all practice, I have to follow the constitution too.

I cannot make a law that is unconstitutional, but I can make a law about prostitution, my goal is actually to make it legal, and regulated.
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274


What are your state's current law about those prostitution things, if I may ask?
 Quoting: PilgriMage


Its illegal in the state of Arkansas.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 03:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
Its also illegal in every state but Nevada where its regulated.
:)
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 03:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
If the public is disagreeing with Obama, that means that they're to the RIGHT of Obama, in American politics.

which means that the majority is AGAINST legalizing prostitution.
Superheavyweight
User ID: 50415501
United Kingdom
11/22/2013 03:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
[link to answers.yahoo.com]
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 06:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
 Quoting: Superheavyweight 50415501



and that's relevant to the USA, or what we say in this country about it, how ?
Dirtyboy

User ID: 50396986
United States
11/22/2013 06:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
There are lots of street hookers in the US. Probably most have all kinds of diseases because they don't care, just need the money for drugs.
Dirtyboy
Think beyond impossible.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 09:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
There are lots of street hookers in the US. Probably most have all kinds of diseases because they don't care, just need the money for drugs.
 Quoting: Dirtyboy


Exactly the kind of problem that could be eliminated by Licensing, Insuring, Unionizing, and taxing it.

The street hookers would then better deserve to be arrested.

Because "Sex Workers" would actually be clean honest people who want to do that for profession, they would have a fixed bricks and mortar facility that you can walk into,


take an instant HIV test, show ID and your social security card and your health insurance card,

sign a paper stating that you are 18 or older, you consent to sex, you are not under pressure or force, and you do not have any STDs.

you're given a condom and you go into the back room.
lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16213727
United States
11/22/2013 09:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
I heard that prostitution is legal in the Netherlands.
I am 100 %, positively sure that ALL sexually transmitted diseases are present in the Netherlands.

This also includes the main BIG ONE, HIV that turns into AIDS either slowly with treatment, or more rapidly without.

Only 1 % of all Europeans, are immune to the HIV virus types that are found in Europe, which are the same types 1 and 2 that are found here in the USA.

That leaves a margin for a possibility that absolutely NO people that are from the Netherlands would be immune.
:)


Is street prostitution, without a license, without background checks, and without testing for HIV allowed in the Netherlands ?

if yes, why ?

do you want to get AIDS ?

Prostitutes are a number 1 risk group, and therefore so are their customers, and visa versa.
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274



its legal in Nevada, USA as well. That doesn't mean its safe here either.
Exeter (OP)
User ID: 49842274
United States
11/22/2013 09:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Question for the Netherlands
I heard that prostitution is legal in the Netherlands.
I am 100 %, positively sure that ALL sexually transmitted diseases are present in the Netherlands.

This also includes the main BIG ONE, HIV that turns into AIDS either slowly with treatment, or more rapidly without.

Only 1 % of all Europeans, are immune to the HIV virus types that are found in Europe, which are the same types 1 and 2 that are found here in the USA.

That leaves a margin for a possibility that absolutely NO people that are from the Netherlands would be immune.
:)


Is street prostitution, without a license, without background checks, and without testing for HIV allowed in the Netherlands ?

if yes, why ?

do you want to get AIDS ?

Prostitutes are a number 1 risk group, and therefore so are their customers, and visa versa.
 Quoting: Exeter 49842274



its legal in Nevada, USA as well. That doesn't mean its safe here either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


That's false, street prostitution is not legal in Nevada.
You need a license and a facility, the bunny farm is the biggest.





GLP