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ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!

 
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interesting vid, flameworker! Thanks for the great thread.
My only thought on this is what image was used and by who to run the filters, and in what program. OK - that is a lot of questions. If it a screen shot in photoshop, then the filters mean absolutely nothing. A full res pic, meh, though if it was raw we would be getting closer to seeing what could really be there. But not in phtoshop. The filters in photoshop really are only designed to mimic certain effects. They can reveal some things, if a shot is slightly overexposed for instance, but to take the original shot, all photoshop can do is mess with pixels in a desperate attempt to guess what you are looking for.
It would be interesting to know more about the source of the image file itself, and what program was used to make the manipulations.
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he is just subtracting bright color spectrums with Photoshop.

but as you are astroshill I think you already know that
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light is light

you get the same data as the experts get when you analyse a photo in photoshop, or whatever program you use

yes, they have better toys than you, but you can see a hell of a lot in the photos you get

Deb, you're trying a bit TOO hard now. you're on a loser.
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Comet ISON Taken by Fritz Helmut Hemmerich on November 22, 2013 @ Tenerife, Canary Island. close-up, fliters.
Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]
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[link to oi42.tinypic.com]

if this thing is as truly massive as is being made out, then the debris off it will be proportionately larger too, and we're flying THROUGH that fucking crud from 12 Jan on
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Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
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No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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interesting vid, flameworker! Thanks for the great thread.
My only thought on this is what image was used and by who to run the filters, and in what program. OK - that is a lot of questions. If it a screen shot in photoshop, then the filters mean absolutely nothing. A full res pic, meh, though if it was raw we would be getting closer to seeing what could really be there. But not in phtoshop. The filters in photoshop really are only designed to mimic certain effects. They can reveal some things, if a shot is slightly overexposed for instance, but to take the original shot, all photoshop can do is mess with pixels in a desperate attempt to guess what you are looking for.
It would be interesting to know more about the source of the image file itself, and what program was used to make the manipulations.
 Quoting: green_girl
he is just subtracting bright color spectrums with Photoshop.

but as you are astroshill I think you already know that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13578021


light is light

you get the same data as the experts get when you analyse a photo in photoshop, or whatever program you use

yes, they have better toys than you, but you can see a hell of a lot in the photos you get

Deb, you're trying a bit TOO hard now. you're on a loser.
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I have asked out of curiousity a few times amd still no one has told me who deb is/was, lol.

Anyway, light is light? I make a living on photoshop. All you can do with a screenshot or jpeg like that is play with pixels, not really light. The majority of the coma of ison is white in that pic. All photoshop can do is treat the mass of white as though it were one object. That is perhaps simplifying it a bit, but in essence that is what it is doing. Basically all you are seeing is most of the coma where it is dense enough to show up as white or almost white. the fuzzy, almost see through blueish bits get dropped, but all the rest stays as if it were one object. You are not seeing the nucleus.
Now if the image is not a jpeg, i am interested in looking at it further, but i dont know the source of the image used here.
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That solid interior is only 3km across?

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Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
 Quoting: Anu, father of Enki


No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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It isn't a comet, it is an artificially created body inhabited with billions of highly advanced extraterrestrial beings of who created us...They are our Gods and they are coming back again...
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That solid interior is only 3km across?

BULLSHIT
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You will see the errors in that thinking soon enough...
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Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
 Quoting: Anu, father of Enki


No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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It isn't a comet, it is an artificially created body inhabited with billions of highly advanced extraterrestrial beings of who created us...They are our Gods and they are coming back again...
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Well then they're REALLY late pickin me up!!! alien11
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interesting vid, flameworker! Thanks for the great thread.
My only thought on this is what image was used and by who to run the filters, and in what program. OK - that is a lot of questions. If it a screen shot in photoshop, then the filters mean absolutely nothing. A full res pic, meh, though if it was raw we would be getting closer to seeing what could really be there. But not in phtoshop. The filters in photoshop really are only designed to mimic certain effects. They can reveal some things, if a shot is slightly overexposed for instance, but to take the original shot, all photoshop can do is mess with pixels in a desperate attempt to guess what you are looking for.
It would be interesting to know more about the source of the image file itself, and what program was used to make the manipulations.
 Quoting: green_girl
he is just subtracting bright color spectrums with Photoshop.

but as you are astroshill I think you already know that
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That solid interior is only 3km across?

BULLSHIT
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Sorry, i miss-read your post. I thought you were agreeing with the 3km across statement.
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
 Quoting: Anu, father of Enki


No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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I'm pretty certain that the glare the op is talking about is the coma and the thing that is behind it is the nucleus. If so, it us easily large enough to be classified as a planet.
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
i used the following software on the pic of Comet ISON Taken by Fritz Helmut Hemmerich on November 22, 2013 ;

irfanview
picasa
photoscape
meesoft image analyzer
gimp
image J

it is what it is. maybe all those filters created what was never there in the first place. or maybe they didn't. maybe they revealed details hidden by the glare. you decide.
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We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
 Quoting: Anu, father of Enki


No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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It isn't a comet, it is an artificially created body inhabited with billions of highly advanced extraterrestrial beings of who created us...They are our Gods and they are coming back again...
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what just huh? what?
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I'm beginning to wonder about the sanity of people on this forum.
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i used the following software on the pic of Comet ISON Taken by Fritz Helmut Hemmerich on November 22, 2013 ;

irfanview
picasa
photoscape
meesoft image analyzer
gimp
image J

it is what it is. maybe all those filters created what was never there in the first place. or maybe they didn't. maybe they revealed details hidden by the glare. you decide.
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what file type was the image?
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
Comet ISON Taken by Fritz Helmut Hemmerich on November 22, 2013 @ Tenerife, Canary Island. close-up, fliters.
Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

[link to www.liveleak.com]
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ahhh
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We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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Why does every thread about ISON some AC wants Astro's thoughts on it? Let the OP alone.
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It's path will soon take an unexpected and un-explainable change...
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
Comet ISON Taken by Fritz Helmut Hemmerich on November 22, 2013 @ Tenerife, Canary Island. close-up, fliters.
Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com]

[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]
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That music means doom! its gonna hit aint it??? huh huh ????
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We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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hesright
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
what file type was the image?
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i used this image green girl

[link to i1208.photobucket.com]

it's JPEG and unlikely to be the original format.
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I'm beginning to wonder about the sanity of people on this forum.
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Re: ISON - behind the glare AWESOME!!!!
We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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hesright
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his 8cm what?
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We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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hesright
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I agree. Astro is the perfect person to look at this! I dont take photography through a telescope, so i cant help with verifying the purity of the picture like he can. But what my gut tells me is that we are not looking at an unedited pic to begin with. I am pretty sure before the photographer submitted the pic he had already altered it to get that pretty black background and colour. So without knowing how he might have altered the image, we can hardly look at a photoshop job someone else did to it and say it must be true.
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Well if Ison is that large would it not be classified as a planet? And since it grew wings, would not that make it a "winged planet"

When it comes to planets size does matter.

Defintion of a planet is below:

[link to www2.ess.ucla.edu]
 Quoting: Anu, father of Enki


No, because we're talking about the coma not the actual nucleus.
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It isn't a comet, it is an artificially created body inhabited with billions of highly advanced extraterrestrial beings of who created us...They are our Gods and they are coming back again...
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We need Astro with his 80mm to verify this!!!!!!!!!
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Why does every thread about ISON some AC wants Astro's thoughts on it? Let the OP alone.
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