Anyone See HORIZON - BBC - About Comet Ison?

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So, Yes. They are - though I'm not sure they got confused with Elenin?

Last Edited by BadMoonRisen on 11/24/2013 12:41 PM

BadMoonRisen, did you see this preview of the Nat Geo special on Ison tonight here in the US?

WTF?

Bigger than Australia?

I wonder if I can get that in the UK?

Thanks.

I don't know, but it will probably be on Youtube tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Strange days.

This is a great thread, BadMoonRisen! This will call attention to all the tv specials. It looks like everyone could see at least one of them.

it's on nat geo tonight at 8pm BMR

i'm recording it, and recording all the programmes before too to catch that 'bigger than Oz' quote

here's a vid posted earlier about it..



FUCK, it just came on!!! they DEFINITELY said 'bigger than australia!' watch nat geo, or record it, they are definitely plugging it as 'bigger than oz' no doubt!

watch the nat geo ad breaks for the trailer, and the 'bigger than Oz' quote

shit shit shit shit

we're fucked!

twice the size of pluto. a fucking planet, in other words, or a large planetoid, at least.

If you'd paid attention it said pulled apart. Comet Ison may either be evaporated by the sun or pulled apart as well.

that ain't gonna happen, and what's more you fucking KNOW that ain't gonna happen!

BUMP FOR TRUTH!

now, it isn't KOOKS on conspiracy forums saying 'bigger than Australia', it's one of the largest documentary channels on the planet. bigger than Australia is Pluto, and Eris, combined, in one body, yet below we have a respected astronomer, David Morrison, ripping the SHIT out of anyone suggesting an object even ERIS sized will be coming through our solar system in 2012..

[link to www.csicop.org]

here are the sizes of these small bodies..

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Q and A's by Morrison..


Initial Questions: The Distinction between Nibiru, Planet X, and Eris

Although the name of the Sumerian god Nibiru is most often given to this object, I quickly learned that some Web sites were also calling it Planet X or Eris. Planet X is a generic term used by astronomers over the past century for any unknown or hypothesized planets beyond Pluto. Eris is an actual, newly discovered dwarf planet, a little larger than Pluto but much farther away. By conflating these, some were claiming that NASA had found Nibiru or that Eris was going to fly past Earth in 2012.

Q: I was on the NASA home page and searched Planet Niburu. Come to find out there actually is a planet beyond Pluto and they are calling it Niburu. Some said Planet Niburu didn’t exist but now we know it does! There haven’t been many straight answers on this subject so I don’t really expect to get the total truth, but here I go. Is there ANY chance of a Niburu flyby in 2012? And if there is why don’t the public have a right to know so that we can prepare ourselves?

A: I’m sorry if the NASA web page confused you. I just checked, and there is no mention of Nibiru other than recent statements that it does not exist and is a hoax. The web site does include a 2005 news story on the discovery of one of the transneptunian dwarf planets, 2003UB313. UB313 was subsequently given the name Eris, and there is plenty of information about Eris on the web, including a good introduction in Wikipedia. But this has nothing to do with Nibiru. Nibiru is a hoax, linked to a religious cult, and having nothing to do with science.

Q: How can you call Nibiru a hoax when your own IRAS detected it and you issued a press release in 1982 which made it to eight major newspapers?

A: When looking into this sort of thing, you need to read past the first paragraph, since new data are always coming along in science. IRAS (the first infrared survey satellite, which flew more than 20 years ago) cataloged 350,000 infrared sources, and initially many of these were unidentified (which was the point, of course, of making such a survey). All of these observations have been followed up by subsequent studies with more powerful telescopes both on the ground and in space. The rumor about a “tenth planet” erupted in 1984 after a scientific paper was published in Astrophysical Journal Letters titled “Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey,” which discussed several infrared sources with “no counterparts.” But these “mystery objects” were later found to be distant galaxies. The bottom line is that Nibiru is a myth, with no basis whatever in fact. To an astronomer, persistent claims about a planet that is nearby but invisible are just plain silly.


interesting exchanges. he seems to be dismissing out of hand the possibility of even an Eris sized object going through the solar system, yet here we have an object 'bigger than Australia', or nearly TWICE Eris size going through, at the same time as big volcanoes are popping off everywhere?

Well according to Krystal, they're including the comet's tail in that figure, in which case it IS bigger than Australia. In fact it's bigger than earth. Nevertheless, I do not consider Nat Geo to be immune to colossal fuckups. The comet's physical nucleus itself is most certainly not "bigger than Australia." If it were, the physical nucleus would have been about 6 arcseconds wide in my telescope when I last observed it, easily resolvable as a solid shape even by my scope.

I'll just go over this again this for you, it was a few comments up from your reply.

Lovejoy discovered 4 comets. One of them was the sungrazer that survived in 2011.

One is the comet that is not in the nighttime sky.

Two others are not currently visible.

None of them was destroyed when it passed by the sun.

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Re: Anyone See HORIZON - BBC - About Comet Ison?
Your thoughts please.

One part claimed that Comet Lovejoy was destroyed by the Sun - wtf?

From the BBC website:

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Scenario one: It could suffer the same fate as Comet Lovejoy, which went around the Sun in autumn 2011.

The gravity of the sun pulled one side of the comet's nucleus more strongly than the other, stretching it apart.

As Lovejoy emerged from the corona it exploded. Whether this will happen to Ison depends on its size. A nucleus of two kilometres or under puts it at great risk. Astronomers estimate that Ison is almost exactly two kilometres, so it's right on the borderline.

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Yet Comet Lovejoy still lives - right?

And most of the programme was geared towards how life on Earth [Amino Acids and Water] actually started.

Weird programme which answered nothing and made me question the point of it.
Quoting: BadMoonRisen


Lovejoy discovered two comets and both were named after him. One was destroyed and the second is now in our solar system.
Quoting: Ozark Woman



Link to the article about the other comet Lovejoy which was destroyed, please.

C/2011 W3 Lovejoy survived the sun trip in 2011.

"Comet Lovejoy C/2013 R1 is currently the morning sky's brightest. Only discovered in September and not a sungrazing comet, this Comet Lovejoy is nearing the edge of naked-eye visibility " [link to apod.nasa.gov]

According to Wikipedia, he has discovered 4 comets, and Lovejoy C/2011 is the only sungrazer, the others are not sungrazers.


C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy) is a comet discovered in November 2011, noted for its pass through the sun's corona.
C/2013 R1 (Lovejoy) is a naked eye comet in November 2013.

C/2007 E2 (Lovejoy), discovered in March 2007
C/2007 K5 (Lovejoy), discovered in May 2007
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please share with us links to the information about the other sungrazer Lovejoy, the one that was destroyed, becase as of today, it appears that BBC made a big blunder
*** WaterLily ***

I don't know if that is what they mean...that includes the tail being spoken up, but I intend to watch the Nat Geo special tonight to see.

the comet's tail is tens of millions miles long ffs!

that's a tad bigger than Australia.

how was this thing spotted so far out? because of it's SIZE?

if that inner coma is 37000 miles wide, as has been claimed, this is approx what an Australia size object would look like at the centre of it..

[link to makeagif.com]

would you have seen something that size? Or is that inner coma NOT 37000 miles wide?

Incorrect.
"The permanent loss of the nuclear
condensation and the formation of a narrow spine tail was observed first at Malargue, Argentina, on December 20 and then systematically at Siding Spring, Australia. The process of disintegration culminated with an outburst (terminal fragmentation event) on December 17.6 UT"
[link to arxiv.org]

That's what I said.
"Well according to Krystal, they're including the comet's tail in that figure, in which case it IS bigger than Australia. In fact it's bigger than earth."

Wasn't the coma 31,000km when Hubble first imaged it? NG says the coma is 3100 miles across. I think they must have got km and miles mixed up and dropped a decimal point or something...LOL.

"2. The Hubble team says ISON’s dust tail extends more than 57,000 miles -- more than twice the circumference of Earth at the equator."

"3. The comet's head (or coma) is estimated to be 3,100 miles across; that’s 1.2 times the width of Australia!"

[link to natgeotv.com.au]

Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 11/24/2013 02:31 PM

Lovejoy, according to your reference survived the pass around the sun, did not melt, as a snowball should have done in the presence of such high heat.

Lovejoy's passage by the sun occurred days earlier than the breakup you reference, and it did not break up until days later.

I'll repeat: If Lovejoy was a snow ball, it should have been steam when the comet approached that close to the million degree sun. Astronomers themselves admitted that they were very puzzled.

Very high temperatures can, however, cause deformation, breakdown and eventual melting of rock (such as metalic ore) or smelted metal (as when scrap is melted down for recycling).

The fact that the comet survived for days shows that it did not melt, its intense flaring as it approached the sun and its eventual disintegration is not inconsistent with a body made of iron or copper bearing ores, and is indeed consistent with the action of a charged conductor in the presence of a magnetic field (the sun's) as it passes by (the movement of an conductor through a magnetic field produces electricity).

In other words, Lovejoy may well have been one of the metal bearing asteroids that we are now hearing so much about. But whatever the case, it is not reasonable to assume that it was made of ice and snow, according to the laws of physics.

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Last Edited by waterlily on 11/24/2013 02:25 PM

yeah, yeah, nothing going to happen anyway. so back to work you fucking brainwashed slaves

Is it possible to have a thread about ISON without Astroshill? It's a conspiracy site for God's sake, not a mainstream sheeple site. I don't understand why lame ass conformist shills have such a desire to stir trouble where they are clearly not welcome. Suffice to say, where Astro or his ilk turn up, there is a truth being concealed.

You mean like how NASA concealed the truth that December 21 was the date Nibiru was to destroy us? Or when they lied and said Elenin wasn't Nibiru?

Looking at that picture if that was the Size in Reality, when it passed us I would of thought we would of known about it its like hitting a fly with a swatter

Do you think it will survive the sun ?

in the uk @8pm
on natgeo sky ch526
called ison comet of the century

Last Edited by Nanna-Ree on 11/24/2013 02:47 PM

there has been quite a few shows on today about Comets and Asteroids really trying to point out this comet as the one of the century

So you're saying that Asstroshill is here as a representative of NASA? Well, that DOES make sense...

Astronomy.

i noticed this too

this website screws up your computer

makes it run slow