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Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?

 
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Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
has it ever worked? seems to be a lot of hype and untested.
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hiding
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
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that's what i thought
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
You have to declare sovereign status before you ever go to court.

Most people don't know how to do it, and think that by standing up in court and declaring it, is how but its not.

Now the videos you see of freeman on the land owning judges is because they are still citizens but take their rights as a citizens by declaring Capitis Diminutio Minima (meaning a minimum loss of status). Which means they retain their constitutional rights and the judges recognize that.

The only real sovereigns I know of, are Indians in Canada..

and this is how they did it, and if you want to be sovereign this is how you do it.. You make this declaration in writing to the Queen of England... Change the declaration wording to suit your needs and naming conventions. You will receive a letter from the queen acknowledging your declaration and that is what you use when you are pulled over by cops because you have no plates or insurance.

Declaration of First Nations (1980)
We the original peoples of this land know the Creator put us here.
The Creator gave us laws that govern all our relationships to live in harmony with nature and mankind.
The laws of the Creator defined our rights and responsibilities.
The Creator gave us our spiritual beliefs, our languages, our culture, and a place on Mother Earth who provided us with all our needs.
We have maintained our freedom, our languages and our traditions since time immemorial.
We continue to exercise the rights and fulfill the responsibilities and obligations given to us by the Creator for the land upon which we are placed.
The Creator has given us the right to govern ourselves and the right to self-determination.
The rights and responsibilities given us by the Creator cannot be altered or taken away by any other nation.
-Adopted by the Joint Council of Chiefs and Elders, December 1980.
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


What is your function?

And second, what's with the 'outbust' nonsense.

out·burst noun \-ˌbərst\

: a sudden expression of strong feeling


So, what you saying is a sudden expression of strong feeling is considered con-temp of court.
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Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


What is your function?

And second, what's with the 'outbust' nonsense.

out·burst noun \-ˌbərst\

: a sudden expression of strong feeling


So, what you saying is a sudden expression of strong feeling is considered con-temp of court.
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Attorney. Next, I have never seen a Sovereign Citizen exert his "rights" in a whisper. It is always a loud diatribe which fails to answer ANY question propounded by the Court. The last one I saw in Circuit Court would not speak to his attorney; and, when he was physically brought to the bench; began screaming that he was not a citizen of the United States and that the Court had no jurisdiction over him. The Judge did not even speak; simply waved her hand to remove him from the Courtroom. The Deputy dragged the goon out the Courtroom down a staircase to the jail. And, that is where he has been for 8 months now. The State has filed a Motion to try his case in Absentia (meaning without the defendant's presence). So, the Sovereign will be tried as he sits in jail starring at a monitor fashion just for him. Good freakin luck.
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
So a BAR member doesn't want people to know they can stand up for themselves and the silly admiralty law only applies if you let it. How unsurprising.

F you prick and f your title and f your queen.
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Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


What is your function?

And second, what's with the 'outbust' nonsense.

out·burst noun \-ˌbərst\

: a sudden expression of strong feeling


So, what you saying is a sudden expression of strong feeling is considered con-temp of court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47715804


Attorney. Next, I have never seen a Sovereign Citizen exert his "rights" in a whisper. It is always a loud diatribe which fails to answer ANY question propounded by the Court. The last one I saw in Circuit Court would not speak to his attorney; and, when he was physically brought to the bench; began screaming that he was not a citizen of the United States and that the Court had no jurisdiction over him. The Judge did not even speak; simply waved her hand to remove him from the Courtroom. The Deputy dragged the goon out the Courtroom down a staircase to the jail. And, that is where he has been for 8 months now. The State has filed a Motion to try his case in Absentia (meaning without the defendant's presence). So, the Sovereign will be tried as he sits in jail starring at a monitor fashion just for him. Good freakin luck.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


Case number and court? Since its public record, you can surely back your story with facts, right?
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
yes: on phone so can't enbed link. "Sovereign's first appearance in court. Peaceful revolution through the courts."-YouTube

My case was dismissed with prejudice before motions hearing. Never went to trial. I now enjoy traveling unmolested as I have beat the system 9 times. I am 9-0 against the State of Hawaii. And yes, I still have a valid DL and state issued plates on my car.
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yes: on phone so can't enbed link. "Sovereign's first appearance in court. Peaceful revolution through the courts."-YouTube

My case was dismissed with prejudice before motions hearing. Never went to trial. I now enjoy traveling unmolested as I have beat the system 9 times. I am 9-0 against the State of Hawaii. And yes, I still have a valid DL and state issued plates on my car.
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If you have any doubts, search through the comments for case # and research it for yourself through the Hawaii courts. You can search online.
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Yes it's all fake. Go back to sleep and pay a lawyer $10,000 to get you that 'good deal' of a fine & 10 years probation.
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
None of it works because the court doesn't care if it breaks the law or violates your rights.

That's the sad truth the "sovereign" sheisters won't tell you.

In the USA,ALL courts are under federal jurisdiction NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, or what they are called.

However, they will all mix and match jurisdiction in order to close any and all loopholes.

The ONLY way to get out of a case is to know their own laws better than they do - this is not very hard because all court employees are the laziest piece of shit fucks on earth.

So, you have to be lucky enough and smart enough and QUICK enough to catch them on ONE OF THEIR OWN technicalities.

None of the "sovereign" technicalities will work.

In fact, they won't even let you go on most of theirs, either.

As an example, I have had cases proceed where the accused was never arraigned... Despite protesting, there was never a formal arraignment and the judge just laughed.

The DA will basically just throw every possible charge in the book at you - making them up, almost - and hope something sticks. The judges will never even read the paperwork if there is more than 1 paragraph. Lazy fucks.


I HAVE had luck getting judges recused by naming them in the lawsuit :P But you have to do it using formal court paperwork. Then you just get another judge and another until they bring in somebody from out of town at the last minute.

It's basically a waste of time.

Leave the country! The United States of America have already been invaded and overthrown.
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Take it from me; it doesn't. Period. I spend every day in Court; and, occassionally we will be visited by a Sovereign Citizen. Pretty much the standard lines: (To the Judge) "I want to see your license to be a judge"; "I am Pro Per; Pro Per; Pro Per !" "I don't have a name"......invaribly, the Judge will enter a plea of "NOt Guilty" on behalf of the "citizen"; then, direct that he (never seen a female "Sovereign" yet) be taken into custody for the outburst and ordered for a mental evaluation.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


What is your function?

And second, what's with the 'outbust' nonsense.

out·burst noun \-ˌbərst\

: a sudden expression of strong feeling


So, what you saying is a sudden expression of strong feeling is considered con-temp of court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47715804


Attorney. Next, I have never seen a Sovereign Citizen exert his "rights" in a whisper. It is always a loud diatribe which fails to answer ANY question propounded by the Court. The last one I saw in Circuit Court would not speak to his attorney; and, when he was physically brought to the bench; began screaming that he was not a citizen of the United States and that the Court had no jurisdiction over him. The Judge did not even speak; simply waved her hand to remove him from the Courtroom. The Deputy dragged the goon out the Courtroom down a staircase to the jail. And, that is where he has been for 8 months now. The State has filed a Motion to try his case in Absentia (meaning without the defendant's presence). So, the Sovereign will be tried as he sits in jail starring at a monitor fashion just for him. Good freakin luck.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..



Yes everyone, believe the ATTORNEY! 'Even though he has taken an oath to fuck you up the ass by hiring him the court presumes you are an 'infant' not of sound mind for being stupid enough to hire him.'

No joke...from their own law books:

[link to famguardian.org]
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Re: Sovereign Citizens, have you ever used what you know in court?
Where is the OP? Data mining thread...
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Go over to marcstevens[dot]net and see how he does it. He puts the burden back on the state to prove their case using THEIR own rules. They can NEVER do it, so they either drop the cases or (what they usually do is) push them through violating their own rules and putting the Judge's career at risk. The traditional "sovereign" approach tries to play their game. Marc exposes that we don't have to play their games. It's awesome!

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