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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48368005 United States 11/26/2013 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My brother in law is a trucker working out of that area this week.... he said the "officials" were just standing around looking like a bunch of idiots in suits... few hard hats scratching their heads.. and people saying it is more than reports of 89,000.... is 100,000 plus... think i would believe the ones who got to safety before i would the lame stream media... LOL, that is concerning, since it is upstream ... Very concerning.. especially since there is nothing in the river there but large fish!.. know the area well.... not adding up.. highly suspicious this is A large methane bubble would make it sink like a rock...think Bermuda triangle. IDK |
goodmockingbird User ID: 41695598 United States 11/26/2013 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For non-fiction historical reading on the original 1811-12 New Madrid earthquakes, read : When the Mississippi Ran Backwards Available used, delivered to you for under $10.00 total [link to www.amazon.com] Very readable and full of first hand accounts, with much background on Indian leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa who dramatically predicted the quakes. YES! This is historically documented fact. A Shawnee Indian shaman -- brother of Tecumseh -- who was largely ridiculed and hated by almost all whites, and by many Indians as well, PREDICTED the quakes. The stories of Tenskwatawa are still known among native people here in central Oklahoma, but he is largely unknown and misunderstood anywhere else. Here's an attempt at a biography of the man who predicted the earthquakes: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A true mystery. He spent the first half of his life as a pathetic coward and drunkard. Then seemingly overnight developed shamanic powers. He died in oblivion, and remains a mystery to all. Shawnee people understand that what happened to him was simply a sort of natural occurence. I Support Our First Responders |
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Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34388912 United States 11/26/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A worry about all the nuke plants along the Mississippi river... A quake that large that would cause the ground to begin to liquify would cause the nuke plants along the river to sink.... bad news.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12182882 Yea, talk about doom, they put a lot of those nuke plants in that area. I have wondered why put them in dangerous zones. The nuke plants need copious amounts of water for cooling. |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A new USGS report of September 30, 2013 says the weak rocks under the Reelfoot Rift fault lines extend more than 100 miles down into the mantle, much farther than weak rocks found in other ancient rift zones in the central and eastern US. The new report is based on new methods of studying what's beneath the ground. This report does not yet say whether scientists are upping the chances of a big quake. It says the new data lets them look back 500 million years rather than 4,500 years. Data will require "further study." [link to showme.net] Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46805758 United States 11/26/2013 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A worry about all the nuke plants along the Mississippi river... A quake that large that would cause the ground to begin to liquify would cause the nuke plants along the river to sink.... bad news.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12182882 Yea, talk about doom, they put a lot of those nuke plants in that area. I have wondered why put them in dangerous zones. The nuke plants need copious amounts of water for cooling. ........ |
Gerlad The Magnificent User ID: 24473337 United States 11/26/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A new USGS report of September 30, 2013 says the weak rocks under the Reelfoot Rift fault lines extend more than 100 miles down into the mantle, much farther than weak rocks found in other ancient rift zones in the central and eastern US. Quoting: Ozark Woman The new report is based on new methods of studying what's beneath the ground. This report does not yet say whether scientists are upping the chances of a big quake. It says the new data lets them look back 500 million years rather than 4,500 years. Data will require "further study." [link to showme.net] The USGS does not seem to worried though. [link to www.usgs.gov] Huzzah! |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great read Quoting: No Dhimmi The Rift It starts with the dogs. They won't stop barking. And then the earth shrugs8.9 on the Richter scale. It's the world's biggest earthquake since Lisbon in 1755, and it doesn't hit California or Japan or Mexico, but New Madrid, Missouri, a sleepy town on the Mississippi River. Seismologists had predicted the scope of the disaster . . . but no one listened. For hundreds of miles around, dams burst, engulfing entire counties in tidal waves of mud and debris. Cities collapse into piles of brick and shards of glass. Hospitals and schools crumble. Bridges twist and snap, spilling rush-hour traffic into rivers already swollen with bodies. Within minutes, there is nothing but chaos and ruin from St. Louis to Vicksburg, from Kansas City to Louisville. Every bridge down, every highway torn, every house gone. America's heartland has fallen into the nightmare known as the Rifta fault line in the earth that wrenchingly exposes the fractures in American society itself. As a strange white mist smelling of sulfur rises from the crevassed ground, the real terror begins for the survivors, who will soon envy the dead, including: Jason Adams, a teenager separated from his mother; Nick Ruford, an African-American engineer searching for his estranged daughter; Noble Frankland, the TV preacher whose visions of hell have become all too real; Larry Hallock, a technician working frantically to prevent a nuclear meltdown at his power station; and Omar Paxton, a sheriff and Ku Klux Klansman who seeks racial vengeance in the turmoil of disaster. Walter J. Williams has created a modern American disaster saga, a story based on terrifying fact, filled with nonstop action, and peopled with characters who are heartbreakingly real. Witnessing authentic heroes surfacing in the unlikeliest places, you will share their horror, feel their despair, and triumph with them in their struggle to survive. One thing you will know for sure: It con happen here. And sooner or later, it will. A Disaster Waiting to Happen It was the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers who finally made the Swampeast habitable. Just south of Cape Girardeau the levee line began, to Continue 2,200 miles to the Gulf of Mexico. The levees kept the floodwaters Out. During the decades of prosperity, the farmers had forgotten the conditions under which they had prospered were artificial. Southeastern Missouri was as artificial as the Washington Monument, the St. Louis Gateway Arch, or the space shuttle, and like these, existed as a monument to the ingenuity of humankind. The land there had been manufactured. But that which is artificial occupies a precarious position in the world of nature. Its existence depends upon the maintenance of the conditions under which it was designed. The Mississippi River's levee system was built with the understanding that two things would remain constant: The flood waters would not rise much higher than they had in the past, and the land on which the levees were built would not move of its own accord. The first of these constants was violated regularly. The result was a greater commitment to reinforced levees. The second constant, the requirement that the earth not move, had not been tested. Though such a test, as history showed, was inevitable. [link to www.amazon.com] Amazon.com Review Rock & roll takes on new meaning in The Rift, Walter Jon Williams's huge book about a magnitude 8.9 earthquake centered under the southeastern United States. This is a major departure from the intricate science fiction tales Williams usually writes (City on Fire, Aristoi), but he applies the same thoroughness, complexity, and great character development to this disaster yarn. Some readers might balk at the book's size (it's a doorstopper), but consider the subject: the biggest earthquake in recorded history, a monstrous disaster that lays waste to entire cities from Chicago to New Orleans, flings one of the world's largest rivers out of its banks, and within 10 minutes obliterates countless lives. But the earthquake is only the beginning of this horror story--fire, flood, and chaos follow, and ordinary people are pushed to the limits of ability and sanity as they are transformed into survivors: Marcy thought the tremor was just another aftershock, but then she saw the flash brighten the shining steel of the Gateway Arch, and turned south to watch in awestruck horror as the bright fireball rose over south St. Louis. Bright arching trails of flame shot out of the fireball, like Fourth of July rockets, as debris rose and fell.... It is the Bomb, Marcy thought. It is the End.... The bubble of fire rose into the heavens, and its reflection turned the Mississippi to the color of blood. Williams follows the fates of nine people in the earthquake's aftermath. Among the most compelling, considering the racial and political tension characteristic of the American southeast, are the stories of sheriff Omar Paxton, a card-carrying KKK member from a small parish in Louisiana; the Reverend Noble Frankland, a fundamentalist preacher with well-stocked bunkers and fanatic followers; and General Jessica Frazetta of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the woman in charge of somehow repairing the damage. Each character's story would make a terrifying disaster novel on its own, and Williams handles them all deftly, weaving their threads through the apocalyptic postquake landscape. The Rift is a magnitude 9 novel--you'll walk gingerly on the quiet earth when you're done reading. --Therese Littleton I am going to have to get a copy of that! Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For non-fiction historical reading on the original 1811-12 New Madrid earthquakes, read : Quoting: goodmockingbird When the Mississippi Ran Backwards Available used, delivered to you for under $10.00 total [link to www.amazon.com] Very readable and full of first hand accounts, with much background on Indian leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa who dramatically predicted the quakes. YES! This is historically documented fact. A Shawnee Indian shaman -- brother of Tecumseh -- who was largely ridiculed and hated by almost all whites, and by many Indians as well, PREDICTED the quakes. The stories of Tenskwatawa are still known among native people here in central Oklahoma, but he is largely unknown and misunderstood anywhere else. Here's an attempt at a biography of the man who predicted the earthquakes: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A true mystery. He spent the first half of his life as a pathetic coward and drunkard. Then seemingly overnight developed shamanic powers. He died in oblivion, and remains a mystery to all. Shawnee people understand that what happened to him was simply a sort of natural occurence. And another ... thanks! Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A new USGS report of September 30, 2013 says the weak rocks under the Reelfoot Rift fault lines extend more than 100 miles down into the mantle, much farther than weak rocks found in other ancient rift zones in the central and eastern US. Quoting: Ozark Woman The new report is based on new methods of studying what's beneath the ground. This report does not yet say whether scientists are upping the chances of a big quake. It says the new data lets them look back 500 million years rather than 4,500 years. Data will require "further study." [link to showme.net] The USGS does not seem to worried though. [link to www.usgs.gov] And NASA did not know that ISON was a 400k year periodic ... oh I mean 500k> year (is that now current ...?) Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
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Gerlad The Magnificent User ID: 24473337 United States 11/26/2013 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the FEMA Zone 3 staging would make sense to help the people in this area... Quoting: ReadyInPa Why would FEMA Region 3 be staging? The New Madrid is in Region 5,6, and 7. [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] Huzzah! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49539391 United States 11/26/2013 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, btw, I just ordered The Rift through Better World Books -- which DONATES a bunch of books to worthwhile charities. (So far they have donated over 10 million books and over $15 MILLION DOLLARS to libraries, etc. Thanks for the recommendation!! Can anyone else recommend any other good disaster tomes? I liked Lucifer's Hammer VERY much and most of The Stand. Tried reading Swan Song, but couldn't get into it. Under the Dome started off good, but the ending was amateurish, imho, and I felt ripped off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50621768 United States 11/26/2013 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the FEMA Zone 3 staging would make sense to help the people in this area... Quoting: ReadyInPa Why would FEMA Region 3 be staging? The New Madrid is in Region 5,6, and 7. [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] There probably wont be a region 5,6, or 7 left once it blows so they will have to work from another region. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46813305 United States 11/26/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting in the wiki that man describes it as a fiery comet during the earthquake of 1811. I found many descriptions of same comet being very bright but white (yellowish in Russia). I can't find any other "fiery". Is it possible it electrically reacted with Earth over Missouri? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 498151 United States 11/26/2013 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMO, the BP Oil Spill was done with the specific purpose of destabilizing the sea floor in the Gulf that is adjacent to the mouth of the mighty Mississippi River in hopes that this would help to precipitate a new Great Quake in the New madras Seismic Zone (NMSZ). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50611528 What if they did this (the above) in a effort to decrease the pressure that has been building within the zone to reduce the damage from the inevitable quake that is coming? They can't stop it but perhaps some of the effects might be mitigated ... |
reader9 User ID: 22918479 United States 11/26/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For non-fiction historical reading on the original 1811-12 New Madrid earthquakes, read : Quoting: goodmockingbird When the Mississippi Ran Backwards Available used, delivered to you for under $10.00 total [link to www.amazon.com] Very readable and full of first hand accounts, with much background on Indian leaders Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa who dramatically predicted the quakes. YES! This is historically documented fact. A Shawnee Indian shaman -- brother of Tecumseh -- who was largely ridiculed and hated by almost all whites, and by many Indians as well, PREDICTED the quakes. The stories of Tenskwatawa are still known among native people here in central Oklahoma, but he is largely unknown and misunderstood anywhere else. Here's an attempt at a biography of the man who predicted the earthquakes: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A true mystery. He spent the first half of his life as a pathetic coward and drunkard. Then seemingly overnight developed shamanic powers. He died in oblivion, and remains a mystery to all. Shawnee people understand that what happened to him was simply a sort of natural occurence. Awesome. Thanks! reader |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50627304 United States 11/26/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMO, the BP Oil Spill was done with the specific purpose of destabilizing the sea floor in the Gulf that is adjacent to the mouth of the mighty Mississippi River in hopes that this would help to precipitate a new Great Quake in the New madras Seismic Zone (NMSZ). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50611528 What if they did this (the above) in a effort to decrease the pressure that has been building within the zone to reduce the damage from the inevitable quake that is coming? They can't stop it but perhaps some of the effects might be mitigated ... While I admire your benefit of the doubt, I think he may be somewhat correct, it's also worth mentioning what's eating the salt... if you read through the BERZERK thread, a lot of these pieces start fitting together... the sinkholes eating people in Florida may also be related to this salt eating chemical... I Pet Goat 2 also seems to show melting salt. |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting in the wiki that man describes it as a fiery comet during the earthquake of 1811. I found many descriptions of same comet being very bright but white (yellowish in Russia). I can't find any other "fiery". Is it possible it electrically reacted with Earth over Missouri? Quoting: ~~**lisa**~~ Telegraph was not around till two and a half decades later. So it would suffice to say that electrical was about that same time. So there could not have been an electrical interference ... HOWEVER ... "In the region under consideration during the continuous of so appalling a phenomenon, which commenced by distant rumbling sounds, succeeded by discharges as if a thousand pieces of artillery were suddenly exploded, the earth rocked to and fro, vast chasms opened from whence issued columns of water, sand and coal accompanied by hissing sounds, caused perhaps by the escape of pent-up steam, whilst ever and anon flashes of electricity gleamed through the troubled clouds of night rendering the darkness doubly horrible." [link to showme.net] ..."The fulminating of the mountains was accompanied with flashes of fire seen issuing from their sides. Each flash ended with a snap, or crack, like that which is heard on discharging an electric battery but so times as loud. This induced him to believe the Earthquake was caused by the electric fluid." [link to genealogytrails.com] I know that there are more accounts of 'lightening' accompanying the 1811 quake, just have not researched in a while. Last Edited by Ozark Granny on 11/26/2013 04:21 PM Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50627304 United States 11/26/2013 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the FEMA Zone 3 staging would make sense to help the people in this area... Quoting: ReadyInPa Why would FEMA Region 3 be staging? The New Madrid is in Region 5,6, and 7. [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] You would operate from Region 3 for a disaster in 5, 6, and 7. |
Gerlad The Magnificent User ID: 24473337 United States 11/26/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the FEMA Zone 3 staging would make sense to help the people in this area... Quoting: ReadyInPa Why would FEMA Region 3 be staging? The New Madrid is in Region 5,6, and 7. [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] You would operate from Region 3 for a disaster in 5, 6, and 7. Sure, makes perfect sense to setup your incident response in Philadelphia, some 1000 miles away. Incorrect, if there were to be a quake in the New Madrid seismic zone, the indecent response team would setup in either Kansas City, MO (region 7 HQ), or Chicago (Region 5 HQ). The mississippi would be used to ferry equipment and supplies via TnEMA ( [link to www.tnema.org)] out of Memphis. [link to www.fema.gov] But none of this actually matters since nothing is going to happen. Pretty lights in the sky are not the mark of impending doom like they were 200 years ago. Everything will be fine. Huzzah! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47820996 United States 11/26/2013 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was Tecumseh who predicted the earthquake. In my dream last night, where the new harbor was being built, there was also a powerful panther who passed by. I didn't mention it in my earlier post, since it didn't seem to fit in with the dream in any sensical way. Apparently it does fit in. I found this! [link to ratical.org] |
*<3sugar&spice<3* User ID: 50040730 United States 11/26/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I posted a thread last night about this but.....I'm in Vermont. Had some weird shaking last night - whole house shook. Only last a few seconds but it def. caught my attention. Not near New Madrid, but it was def. weird. Quoting: *<3sugar&spice<3* That reminds me of the Stephen King version of Kingdom Hospital. Are you familiar with it? The shaking up in Wisconsin last year was also fairly isolated too as I recall. I've heard of it happening in New England. Do you have a link to your thread btw? ty. Thread: Whole house just shook....northern VT, really weird. And no I don't think I've read that one, maybe but it doesn't sound familiar. I used to read a lot of Stephen King books when I was younger, but its been awhile =) "Live each day like it's your last, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one is watching." GO PATS!! :Go Patriots!: |
reader9 User ID: 22918479 United States 11/26/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was Tecumseh who predicted the earthquake. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47820996 In my dream last night, where the new harbor was being built, there was also a powerful panther who passed by. I didn't mention it in my earlier post, since it didn't seem to fit in with the dream in any sensical way. Apparently it does fit in. I found this! [link to ratical.org] reader |
Ozark Woman (OP) User ID: 31027866 United States 11/26/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the FEMA Zone 3 staging would make sense to help the people in this area... Quoting: ReadyInPa Why would FEMA Region 3 be staging? The New Madrid is in Region 5,6, and 7. [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] [link to www.fema.gov] You would operate from Region 3 for a disaster in 5, 6, and 7. Sure, makes perfect sense to setup your incident response in Philadelphia, some 1000 miles away. Incorrect, if there were to be a quake in the New Madrid seismic zone, the indecent response team would setup in either Kansas City, MO (region 7 HQ), or Chicago (Region 5 HQ). The mississippi would be used to ferry equipment and supplies via TnEMA ( [link to www.tnema.org)] out of Memphis. [link to www.fema.gov] But none of this actually matters since nothing is going to happen. Pretty lights in the sky are not the mark of impending doom like they were 200 years ago. Everything will be fine. Yes on K.C. and maybe on Chicago, if it was not effected. The response team will have to be from either side of the Mississippi as there will most likely be no standing bridges. Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21878772 United States 11/26/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great read Quoting: No Dhimmi The Rift It starts with the dogs. They won't stop barking. And then the earth shrugs8.9 on the Richter scale. It's the world's biggest earthquake since Lisbon in 1755, and it doesn't hit California or Japan or Mexico, but New Madrid, Missouri, a sleepy town on the Mississippi River. Seismologists had predicted the scope of the disaster . . . but no one listened. Funny, I have that book ... picked it up from the local library for $1 a few months back ... First Edition HB c1999 ... but haven't read it yet. Will definitely have to put it into my reading rotation right now. |