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NASA Livestreamed ISON Conference (Fire vs. ISON)

 
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WHY IS IT "THE COMET OF THE CENTURY???????????????
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The media said so.
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Nope...NASA actually said so
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never did. they dont know why it has been coined as such either. it is all just the media. playing you all for a few ratings.
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So you are the newest useful idiot?
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WHY IS IT "THE COMET OF THE CENTURY???????????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50463838


The media said so.
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Nope...NASA actually said so
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34909321


never did. they dont know why it has been coined as such either. it is all just the media. playing you all for a few ratings.
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Here is one for you too...

Released 1/18/13 media my ass...



Ouch what's title?
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The gas lighting was strong here for awhile. It seems to have dissipated except for a few AC's and an emerald lass who seems to light the fumes when the good physician arrives. Great job of putting out the gaslight in this thread.
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Q: What is the current est. size?
A: Upper limit of about 2km diameter. When comet passed Mars, camera was able to better estimate size at .6km-1.2km

Q: How do you know it's the first pass through solar system?
A: Mentions that it's a 1,000,000 period orbit. Never come through the solar system before and may never come again.


Am I wrong or is this totally contradictory to what they recently updated as far as a 500,000 year orbit?
 Quoting: armouredkitten


Again, stop taking the osculating elements to be fixed and a true indication of the actual "orbital period!" Clearly I should have done a video on this yesterday. Oh well, I'll do one tonight.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Lol, yeah, you are very believable. That's why you spend hours on a CONSPIRACY FORUM spouting mainstream ideologies, while actual people who ARE experts in the field are plotting NASA JPL orbitals.
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LOL! JPL "orbitals." Which YouTube ISONtard or Elenintard taught you that one? Plotting JPL orbitals, if you actually looked at what the JPL data shows using their HORIZONS system, you'd see that they agree with me.
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I have to say I am at least a little proud that I posted a thread that was pinned and consequently occupied by Astro and GG arguing with AC's and the like.

Makes me feel special.



Love you all.

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The media said so.
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Nope...NASA actually said so
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Actually NASA didn't, the media took the idea on.
 Quoting: Wispa


Really? Did they now? NASA VIDEO released January 18, 2013



Don't worry someone has to be wrong. Sucks it was you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34909321


I wasn't wrong.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
Some reporters have started calling ISON the "Comet of the Century," but Don Yeomans of NASA Near-Earth Object Program thinks that's premature.

Your video link is on that page too.
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I have to say I am at least a little proud that I posted a thread that was pinned and consequently occupied by Astro and GG arguing with AC's and the like.

Makes me feel special.



Love you all.

hf
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Yeah! Astro sure knows his stuff.

Great thread. hf
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Q: What is the current est. size?
A: Upper limit of about 2km diameter. When comet passed Mars, camera was able to better estimate size at .6km-1.2km

Q: How do you know it's the first pass through solar system?
A: Mentions that it's a 1,000,000 period orbit. Never come through the solar system before and may never come again.


Am I wrong or is this totally contradictory to what they recently updated as far as a 500,000 year orbit?
 Quoting: armouredkitten


Again, stop taking the osculating elements to be fixed and a true indication of the actual "orbital period!" Clearly I should have done a video on this yesterday. Oh well, I'll do one tonight.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Never mind this crap, someone ask NASA about the expected X-Ray output of ISON as it passes over the Earth!

This should be good!

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Q: What is the current est. size?
A: Upper limit of about 2km diameter. When comet passed Mars, camera was able to better estimate size at .6km-1.2km

Q: How do you know it's the first pass through solar system?
A: Mentions that it's a 1,000,000 period orbit. Never come through the solar system before and may never come again.


Am I wrong or is this totally contradictory to what they recently updated as far as a 500,000 year orbit?
 Quoting: armouredkitten


Again, stop taking the osculating elements to be fixed and a true indication of the actual "orbital period!" Clearly I should have done a video on this yesterday. Oh well, I'll do one tonight.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Never mind this crap, someone ask NASA about the expected X-Ray output of ISON as it passes over the Earth!

This should be good!

spock
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Holy Crap!

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Thanks for flying WildCatAirre`
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Astro is just a power hungry bitter fool. He constantly degraded and demoralizes people, by way of his "superior" knowledge and intellect, when in actuality he is merely projecting. Turn Down others to make yourself seem mighty. Classic projecting case. Astro has nothing to do but hang on conspiracy sites, spouting all this righteousness, yet he would be the first to discredit something since there is no proof. You cant prove love exist, yet everyone knows it exists. How do you explain that? Ego is a dangerous thing, and mister astro has one that is inflated far beyond his self-reflection capabilities. I feel compassion for you astro, and I hope all works out for you. Judging from each and every word of yours on this website, clearly you need some positive love your way, cause you seem miserable as hell, dude. Peace.
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Astro is just a power hungry bitter fool. He constantly degraded and demoralizes people, by way of his "superior" knowledge and intellect, when in actuality he is merely projecting. Turn Down others to make yourself seem mighty. Classic projecting case. Astro has nothing to do but hang on conspiracy sites, spouting all this righteousness, yet he would be the first to discredit something since there is no proof. You cant prove love exist, yet everyone knows it exists. How do you explain that? Ego is a dangerous thing, and mister astro has one that is inflated far beyond his self-reflection capabilities. I feel compassion for you astro, and I hope all works out for you. Judging from each and every word of yours on this website, clearly you need some positive love your way, cause you seem miserable as hell, dude. Peace.
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Amusing, but wrong.
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I have to say I am at least a little proud that I posted a thread that was pinned and consequently occupied by Astro and GG arguing with AC's and the like.

Makes me feel special.



Love you all.

hf
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can't tell if that was sarcasm or a dig at us....
if not, well, glad someone is happy to see me now and then around this forum, lol.
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How many of you were Elenin-tards? Just wondering...
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ISONtards make ELENINtards look like Morgan Freeman narrating a video about space.
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ISONtards, we ride!!!!!!


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currently talking about solar wind affecting the comet tail. what the fuck does this have to do with anything?
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????
omg all anyone has ever done is complain that nasa wasnt talking about ison. now nasa is talking about ison and you complain that you dont want to hear it? It is just a comet. aside from the fact that it is currently moving through the solar system there really isnt that much to talk about aside from the way it interacts with the solar winds. there just isnt all that much to say about it.
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"It's just a comet, lalalala. It's just a comet, lalalala" (Green Girl says while holding her ears and rocking back and forth).
It is NOT JUST a comet...sorry to have to break it to you dear, but it's not.
I'm not saying that it's a spacecraft or anything other than a comet - but it's not JUST A COMET.
It is a big, badass celestial EVENT - and it WILL, whether we like it or not, change everything.
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Karl just said that it took MILLIONS of years for Ison to get to the sun from the oort cloud. He said that, using his stretched rubber band analogy, that the largest amount of acceleration occurs when the comet whips around the sun, and then the velocity is mostly stable as it returns to the OORT cloud, slows and then accelerates out of the oort cloud back on its journey toward the sun.

He then said you have to imagine its reaching the OORT cloud as like when you throw ball up into the air, and that as the ball reaches its furthest point it begins to slow, and then rapidly accelerates as it beings to fall again, but reaches its maximum velocity quickly and levels out until it reaches the sun again.

I would like to know exactly what object is in the OORt cloud which exerts a similar gravitational energy as the sun that attracts comets that return to the OORt cloud and slingshots them back out of the OORT cloud, towards the sun.
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Nothing "slingshots it" back to the sun. In your screwed up view of orbital mechanics, what is "slingshotting" this Molniya satellite back to earth?
[link to heavens-above.com]
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how can something fall in space?
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Karl just said that it took MILLIONS of years for Ison to get to the sun from the oort cloud. He said that, using his stretched rubber band analogy, that the largest amount of acceleration occurs when the comet whips around the sun, and then the velocity is mostly stable as it returns to the OORT cloud, slows and then accelerates out of the oort cloud back on its journey toward the sun.

He then said you have to imagine its reaching the OORT cloud as like when you throw ball up into the air, and that as the ball reaches its furthest point it begins to slow, and then rapidly accelerates as it beings to fall again, but reaches its maximum velocity quickly and levels out until it reaches the sun again.

I would like to know exactly what object is in the OORt cloud which exerts a similar gravitational energy as the sun that attracts comets that return to the OORt cloud and slingshots them back out of the OORT cloud, towards the sun.
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Nothing "slingshots it" back to the sun. In your screwed up view of orbital mechanics, what is "slingshotting" this Molniya satellite back to earth?
[link to heavens-above.com]
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how can something fall in space?
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Gravity works. Space is not the absence of gravity.
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Can anyone answer this question, if a huge ball of ice took a direct hit into the sun, would it cool off the sun? If I throw a snowball into my woodstove it would cool off the fire a bit right? Wouldn't the same apply the to sun on a much larger scale? Or, would this just be like one ice cube on a bonfire?

Would this slight cooling affect the earth at all? Would we feel any change? Thanks ;) The size of this iceball is roughly the size of Manhattan right? So, would it do anything to the sun?
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Can anyone answer this question, if a huge ball of ice took a direct hit into the sun, would it cool off the sun? If I throw a snowball into my woodstove it would cool off the fire a bit right? Wouldn't the same apply the to sun on a much larger scale? Or, would this just be like one ice cube on a bonfire?

Would this slight cooling affect the earth at all? Would we feel any change? Thanks ;) The size of this iceball is roughly the size of Manhattan right? So, would it do anything to the sun?
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throw a snowflake into a volcano and you might have a better analogy, lol. wont make a wit of difference
in fact, i dont recall of a single comet ever actually striking the sun. they all are vapourized in the corona.

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what the fuck who let the shills out
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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what the fuck who let the shills out
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were you personally invited here??



no??


oh right - public forum, no invite necessary. carry on.
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Q: What is the current est. size?
A: Upper limit of about 2km diameter. When comet passed Mars, camera was able to better estimate size at .6km-1.2km

Q: How do you know it's the first pass through solar system?
A: Mentions that it's a 1,000,000 period orbit. Never come through the solar system before and may never come again.


Am I wrong or is this totally contradictory to what they recently updated as far as a 500,000 year orbit?
 Quoting: armouredkitten


Again, stop taking the osculating elements to be fixed and a true indication of the actual "orbital period!" Clearly I should have done a video on this yesterday. Oh well, I'll do one tonight.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Astro..what's with the pilgrim hat on your avatar?is it in celebration of something?
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Q: What is the current est. size?
A: Upper limit of about 2km diameter. When comet passed Mars, camera was able to better estimate size at .6km-1.2km

Q: How do you know it's the first pass through solar system?
A: Mentions that it's a 1,000,000 period orbit. Never come through the solar system before and may never come again.


Am I wrong or is this totally contradictory to what they recently updated as far as a 500,000 year orbit?
 Quoting: armouredkitten


Again, stop taking the osculating elements to be fixed and a true indication of the actual "orbital period!" Clearly I should have done a video on this yesterday. Oh well, I'll do one tonight.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Astro..what's with the pilgrim hat on your avatar?is it in celebration of something?
 Quoting: optimum judgment


It's Thanksgiving this week here in the states.
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Aside from the "wings" pictures and NASA changing the data tables every day, what exactly is so special about this comet from a conspiracy point of view?

Most of the discussion on this site seems to revolve around one group calling another group "shills"

Can someone succinctly explain why this comet is so unusual and what NASA and others may be covering up?
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I have to say I am at least a little proud that I posted a thread that was pinned and consequently occupied by Astro and GG arguing with AC's and the like.

Makes me feel special.



Love you all.

hf
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can't tell if that was sarcasm or a dig at us....
if not, well, glad someone is happy to see me now and then around this forum, lol.
 Quoting: green_girl


Not sarcasm at all. I genuinely appreciate both of you.
-Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

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Can anyone answer this question, if a huge ball of ice took a direct hit into the sun, would it cool off the sun? If I throw a snowball into my woodstove it would cool off the fire a bit right? Wouldn't the same apply the to sun on a much larger scale? Or, would this just be like one ice cube on a bonfire?

Would this slight cooling affect the earth at all? Would we feel any change? Thanks ;) The size of this iceball is roughly the size of Manhattan right? So, would it do anything to the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10303060


throw a snowflake into a volcano and you might have a better analogy, lol. wont make a wit of difference
in fact, i dont recall of a single comet ever actually striking the sun. they all are vapourized in the corona.
 Quoting: green_girl


Want a better example with explanation? I can give you one.
Its. Get yourself a HIV or other virus. We will see what gonna happen with your body, come on virus is so small so it can effect nothing in your body right? therefor people whos saying they are ill are only acting because virus cant do shit.

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Can anyone answer this question, if a huge ball of ice took a direct hit into the sun, would it cool off the sun? If I throw a snowball into my woodstove it would cool off the fire a bit right? Wouldn't the same apply the to sun on a much larger scale? Or, would this just be like one ice cube on a bonfire?

Would this slight cooling affect the earth at all? Would we feel any change? Thanks ;) The size of this iceball is roughly the size of Manhattan right? So, would it do anything to the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10303060


throw a snowflake into a volcano and you might have a better analogy, lol. wont make a wit of difference
in fact, i dont recall of a single comet ever actually striking the sun. they all are vapourized in the corona.
 Quoting: green_girl


Want a better example with explanation? I can give you one.
Its. Get yourself a HIV or other virus. We will see what gonna happen with your body, come on virus is so small so it can effect nothing in your body right? therefor people whos saying they are ill are only acting because virus cant do shit.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so you are telling me that ison is going to get inside the sun and replicate until it destroys the sun from the inside??
no, didnt think so.
my example was better.
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Can anyone answer this question, if a huge ball of ice took a direct hit into the sun, would it cool off the sun? If I throw a snowball into my woodstove it would cool off the fire a bit right? Wouldn't the same apply the to sun on a much larger scale? Or, would this just be like one ice cube on a bonfire?

Would this slight cooling affect the earth at all? Would we feel any change? Thanks ;) The size of this iceball is roughly the size of Manhattan right? So, would it do anything to the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10303060


throw a snowflake into a volcano and you might have a better analogy, lol. wont make a wit of difference
in fact, i dont recall of a single comet ever actually striking the sun. they all are vapourized in the corona.
 Quoting: green_girl


Want a better example with explanation? I can give you one.
Its. Get yourself a HIV or other virus. We will see what gonna happen with your body, come on virus is so small so it can effect nothing in your body right? therefor people whos saying they are ill are only acting because virus cant do shit.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so you are telling me that ison is going to get inside the sun and replicate until it destroys the sun from the inside??
no, didnt think so.
my example was better.
 Quoting: green_girl


I actually lol'd pretty hard at this exchange.
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I have to say I am at least a little proud that I posted a thread that was pinned and consequently occupied by Astro and GG arguing with AC's and the like.

Makes me feel special.



Love you all.

hf
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can't tell if that was sarcasm or a dig at us....
if not, well, glad someone is happy to see me now and then around this forum, lol.
 Quoting: green_girl


Not sarcasm at all. I genuinely appreciate both of you.
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Awww - you are the sweetest OP ever!

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It would be so nice to be able to read these posts without them being derailed all the time by the same people. Please let us who want to reach out converse in peace.





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