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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49377259 United States 11/28/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no irony that the Democrat party in the Old South made a point of keeping blacks uneducated as to more easily control them. In that respect, very little has changed in this country over the past 200 years. The Democrat Party still presides over failing schools, failing policies, failing communities and has stoked the social chaos that has led to the virtual evaporation of the black family. The yoke has just been transferred from the plantation slavemaster to the politician and the university academic, who now achieve the same sinister ends via pseudo-benevolent mechanisms such as Affirmative Action and the lowering of social and academic standards. The result is the same. A significant percentage of America's black population STILL finds itself shackled, wanting and indebted to those who are most responsible for the degradation of their condition. It is a disgrace. NOTHING will improve in the black community until their self-anointed "protectors" cast aside the soft racism of low expectations and begin to hold blacks accountable to the SAME social and academic standards as the rest of society. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49377259 American blacks cannot meet those standards, on the average, nearly as well as whites. Even as hispanics. Affirmative action is the only thing that keeps blacks around in school and in many jobs. Still they should not get this benefit just for being black. Plenty of whites have lower ability too, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. I agree, abolish affirmative action. I think you will hate the result, but it will be the right result: fairness to each individual. Affirmative Action is the textbook definition of racism: : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities And what you are saying about blacks not being able to meet certain standards is not true. Dr. Thomas Sowell has done extensive research and writing about the falacy of conventional wisdom assumptions about Affirmative Action. For instance, he points out that a far higher percentage of blacks rose out of poverty in the 30 years before Affirmative Action programs went into place than the 30 years after. He states that the decade of the 70's, the first Affirmative Action decade saw virtually NO change in the black poverty rate. End Affirmative Action and you would still get plenty of blacks and hispanics in colleges, just not in colleges where they can't meet the academic standards and eventually drop out. |
snowgoosebob User ID: 19657578 United States 11/28/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've not got the right words to describe how infantile this appears to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50390165 Same. They are seriously abusing the race card in every possible way. Maybe someone can make a GIF of Race Cards being pumped out of a printing press at 100 Race Cards per second! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39493222 United States 11/28/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't think of anything stupider to label racist. Quoting: Sunset Voulebard In fact, behind the scenes and with deadly purpose, language is enduring an all out assault. Just imagine language breaking down and civilization following suit. It has already been happening for quite some time. Most societies (term applied loosely) that make violent behavior an integral part of daily life are in the main, illiterate ones. Education is neither free nor encouraged except for the wealthy - or, as in the case of countries with a higher standard of living, the whole education system is simply degraded to the point where it's not turning out educated people anymore. When people don't know enough to articulate their feelings adequately, very often they just hit you instead! Today, even in America, people are murdering one another for annoyances that fifty years ago, might have made them want to break a dish or two at most. |
moses737 User ID: 13499346 United States 11/28/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank God for men like Val Rust!! He is a wonderful man in trying to have all types of Americans to speak properly and write properly and live according to the morals that God has set over us. But most blacks hate speaking good English. Most blacks (especially the males) hate getting educated and using proper English. To them, it means that you are selling out to the white establishment. And all most of them want to do is to be anti-social ignorant people with no jobs or positive directions in their lives. And this is why so many whites hate blacks. But living for God and Jesus Christ can even overcome that anti-social and negative racial denigration. |
Ms. Superduper User ID: 46155084 United States 11/28/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will the song, White Christmas, be racist too? Last Edited by Ms. Superduper on 11/28/2013 12:43 PM Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Kirk User ID: 49863729 United States 11/28/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A University of California Los Angeles professor recently came under fire from a number of students for what they described as racist behavior. According to professor emeritus Val Rust, the entire controversy arose from his effort to instill in his students a higher grammar proficiency. Quoting: Abyss Lady “I have attempted to be rather thorough on the papers and am particularly concerned that they do a good job with their bibliographies and citations,” he explained in a letter, noting “these students apparently don’t feel that is appropriate.” He claimed that some students accused him of “micro-aggression” for pointing out mistakes in grammar and punctuation. Rust noted that another complaint arose regarding a conversation about race that took place among a couple of students in one class. A number of demonstrators took part in the protest as some even occupied Rust’s classroom. Read more at [link to www.westernjournalism.com] tards are going to tard Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50553098 United States 11/28/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I taught college English for 17 years. What I know and you don't is that black students have to battle other blacks to speak and write standard English. They often feel insecure and can be easily intimidated by white professors. A black woman who felt secure in my class and wrote some very good papers for me regressed in her subsequent class with a white male. This white male lashed out at me and her previous teachers for passing her. I felt bitterly contemptuous of this authoritarian white male, who was not a scholar, not an author, and not even a Ph.D. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50710933 But he was right. |
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Mkguyver User ID: 49208029 United States 11/28/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just try submitting a scientific paper or proposal for grant funding with simply just one miss spelled word. Utter denial. If you can't put it on paper correctly you have a problem. Laughable. what would Bill Cosby say? Last Edited by Mkguyver on 11/28/2013 01:22 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330701 United States 11/28/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny. I find the Asians intelligent, polite and willing to work hard at anything, including speaking proper English. And they never play the race card. The "african americans" who feel entitled to everything, don't feel it is necessary to speak proper English, be polite or work, for anything. Forget about even attempting to act intelligent. And the race card is used on a daily basis. Fuck 'em. And they wonder why everyone hates them! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49377259 United States 11/28/2013 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny. I find the Asians intelligent, polite and willing to work hard at anything, including speaking proper English. And they never play the race card. The "african americans" who feel entitled to everything, don't feel it is necessary to speak proper English, be polite or work, for anything. Forget about even attempting to act intelligent. And the race card is used on a daily basis. Fuck 'em. And they wonder why everyone hates them! Notice that the black community is the only one which legitimizes self-anoited "leaders" who do nothing but stir tensions and divisions for their own enrichment. if / when American blacks start thinking as individuals instead of members of a group, they will be much better off. As long as they continue to consider themselves part of the herd, they will be at the mercy of the her's lowest common denominator. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50617876 Canada 11/28/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just try submitting a scientific paper or proposal for grant funding with simply just one miss spelled word. Quoting: Mkguyver Utter denial. If you can't put it on paper correctly you have a problem. Laughable. what would Bill Cosby say? What is really laughable is the 'spell check' feature, which is usually incorrect, since the computer's vocabulary is itself deficient. |
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beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 11/28/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grasp of language is a tool that sets the mind free. A good idea that can be easily communicated is more powerful than any bullet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50532730 Everybody makes grammar and spelling mistakes, but for people to not aspire to improve their grasp of language is insane. Its like these kind of people have never read 1984 and understood what newspeak was about and could lead to. ah, but many do not wish for a free mind. Just free stuff. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16987672 United States 11/28/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A University of California Los Angeles professor recently came under fire from a number of students for what they described as racist behavior. According to professor emeritus Val Rust, the entire controversy arose from his effort to instill in his students a higher grammar proficiency. Quoting: Abyss Lady “I have attempted to be rather thorough on the papers and am particularly concerned that they do a good job with their bibliographies and citations,” he explained in a letter, noting “these students apparently don’t feel that is appropriate.” He claimed that some students accused him of “micro-aggression” for pointing out mistakes in grammar and punctuation. Rust noted that another complaint arose regarding a conversation about race that took place among a couple of students in one class. A number of demonstrators took part in the protest as some even occupied Rust’s classroom. Read more at [link to www.westernjournalism.com] Rather interesting...or should I say shocking...that UCLA is teaching people who are unable to demonstrate rational thinking. I wonder how it is that such people have managed to occupy space in a learning institution. It's only logical that the larger one's vocabulary, the clearer one can express one's self. I guess at the root these persons really aren't interested in that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 11/28/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no irony that the Democrat party in the Old South made a point of keeping blacks uneducated as to more easily control them. In that respect, very little has changed in this country over the past 200 years. The Democrat Party still presides over failing schools, failing policies, failing communities and has stoked the social chaos that has led to the virtual evaporation of the black family. The yoke has just been transferred from the plantation slavemaster to the politician and the university academic, who now achieve the same sinister ends via pseudo-benevolent mechanisms such as Affirmative Action and the lowering of social and academic standards. The result is the same. A significant percentage of America's black population STILL finds itself shackled, wanting and indebted to those who are most responsible for the degradation of their condition. It is a disgrace. NOTHING will improve in the black community until their self-anointed "protectors" cast aside the soft racism of low expectations and begin to hold blacks accountable to the SAME social and academic standards as the rest of society. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49377259 American blacks cannot meet those standards, on the average, nearly as well as whites. Even as hispanics. Affirmative action is the only thing that keeps blacks around in school and in many jobs. Still they should not get this benefit just for being black. Plenty of whites have lower ability too, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. I agree, abolish affirmative action. I think you will hate the result, but it will be the right result: fairness to each individual. Affirmative Action is the textbook definition of racism: : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities And what you are saying about blacks not being able to meet certain standards is not true. Dr. Thomas Sowell has done extensive research and writing about the falacy of conventional wisdom assumptions about Affirmative Action. For instance, he points out that a far higher percentage of blacks rose out of poverty in the 30 years before Affirmative Action programs went into place than the 30 years after. He states that the decade of the 70's, the first Affirmative Action decade saw virtually NO change in the black poverty rate. End Affirmative Action and you would still get plenty of blacks and hispanics in colleges, just not in colleges where they can't meet the academic standards and eventually drop out. OK, deal. Whatever happens after, it will be the right thing. I think it would be great to have competent, qualified black students competing and succeeding on their merits in school and in the economy. If there were no affirmative action, I would not have the hesitation to hire a black or hispanic graduate. As it is now, I have to assume that he or she did not meet the same standards as a white or asian, and that he or she is therefore less qualified overall, and I would have to do extensive further testing myself to overcome that presumption. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 11/28/2013 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny. I find the Asians intelligent, polite and willing to work hard at anything, including speaking proper English. And they never play the race card. The "african americans" who feel entitled to everything, don't feel it is necessary to speak proper English, be polite or work, for anything. Forget about even attempting to act intelligent. And the race card is used on a daily basis. Fuck 'em. And they wonder why everyone hates them! Notice that the black community is the only one which legitimizes self-anoited "leaders" who do nothing but stir tensions and divisions for their own enrichment. if / when American blacks start thinking as individuals instead of members of a group, they will be much better off. As long as they continue to consider themselves part of the herd, they will be at the mercy of the her's lowest common denominator. Feminist leaders do the same thing. It sucks equally in both instances. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 11/28/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just try submitting a scientific paper or proposal for grant funding with simply just one miss spelled word. Quoting: Mkguyver Utter denial. If you can't put it on paper correctly you have a problem. Laughable. what would Bill Cosby say? Generally the problem in my experience is that the affirmative action candidates cannot specify a proposal that's both interesting and doable. That requires intellectual horsepower that they don't show. A misspelled word or two would probably not even be noticed. But if you capitalize "black" but don't capitalize "white", for example, I think you would justifiably piss off some grant reviewers. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 37755563 Spain 11/28/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43591318 I guess illiterate masses are easier to control? People that can read and write are dangerous to the overlords! And the scary thing is, that newspeak is absolute reality. It's just called "politically correct language". That's why the elites want a mongrel world to rule over. The primitive races always long to go back to their original state. Even those which are educated in the Western way and apt in it, deep inside have a longing to destroy all its progress. Only the white races in their original form have in them the unquenchable aspiration to rule over nature. This is undeniable as for thousands of years before meeting each other the primitive races rejoiced in nature unmolested while the whites struggled with an unstoppable will to rule over it. The mix of these races creates an inner conflict which results in entropy. Mongrel peoples while in a majority state and unsupervised by white administration inevitably degenerate into chaos. However with the right programming the primitive races and their mongrel derivations pose no threat to a well made control system and their elite creators. However what these elites don't take into consideration is that while these races won't give them as much competition for hegemony, they won't be able to maintain such a beautiful world for them to enjoy as they do now. I guess they're planning to remain in their own private countries and allow the mongrel slaves to keep their goods and services being produced. They aren't that smart. Cunning is not smart. The NWO will result in a dark age. I think so too, I am just trying to place myself on their minds and see what the hell do they actually expect. Maybe they have some hopes of ruling a world inhabited by mulatto automatons who won't threaten them in any manner. I think if this were to happen the mongrel races would actually destroy everything that holds civilization together and these "elites" would have to begin doing some actual work if they wanted their luxurious lives to be maintained. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Manu-Koelbren User ID: 37755563 Spain 11/28/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racism is a difficult charge to disprove, which explains why it is such a popular accusation among leftists. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Its a socialist construct, talmudic zionist 'masterplan'. J Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States 11/28/2013 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't think of anything stupider to label racist. Quoting: Sunset Voulebard In fact, behind the scenes and with deadly purpose, language is enduring an all out assault. Just imagine language breaking down and civilization following suit. Time to unveil the 12th edition of the New Speak dictionary... BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States 11/28/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've not got the right words to describe how infantile this appears to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50390165 Same. They are seriously abusing the race card in every possible way. Good. The sooner the race card is laughed out of every corner of American thought, the sooner we can start to civilize the savages. I'll drink to that... BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |