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Neptune Fabricator User ID: 15365559 United States 11/28/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As the tail decreased during perihelion. If ice, the tail would grow larger, faster, stronger at perihelion. Quoting: --Voltaic-- I suggest comets are over powered by the Sun's electric potential and the voltage discharge reverses. Thus, preventing tail formation. Watch, the tail will now explode due to capturing A LOT of energy from the Sun. As ISON begins departure. As the comet, being a massive capacitor in space, just got a full charge from the Sun. Now it has LOTS of electric potential. Just s refueling stop... ...Your Own Personal Jesus... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31036137 United States 11/28/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can a comet switch poles? if it has a bowshock, it must have some kind of megnetosphere I'm thinking more like high voltages. Here is a high voltage corona discharge. Look similar? [link to www.weatherscapes.com] Not so much an active magnet. No real current to create a magnetic field. Just a massively charged object leaking voltage as it heats up. The heat from the sun excites the energy and is the cause of corona development. As I theorize, anyways. The heat may reduce the maximum storage capacity of the material acting as the capacitor. Forcing corona discharge. Getting so close to the Sun, where the Suns voltage potential over powers the comet, the electrical energy flows inwards instead of outwards. I'm 99% on this. If the tail rapidly developed to a massive size then I am convinced. |
Jayceon User ID: 49795317 Norway 11/28/2013 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can a comet switch poles? if it has a bowshock, it must have some kind of megnetosphere I'm thinking more like high voltages. Here is a high voltage corona discharge. Look similar? [link to www.weatherscapes.com] Not so much an active magnet. No real current to create a magnetic field. Just a massively charged object leaking voltage as it heats up. The heat from the sun excites the energy and is the cause of corona development. As I theorize, anyways. The heat may reduce the maximum storage capacity of the material acting as the capacitor. Forcing corona discharge. Getting so close to the Sun, where the Suns voltage potential over powers the comet, the electrical energy flows inwards instead of outwards. I'm 99% on this. If the tail rapidly developed to a massive size then I am convinced. I'm with you on this one, sir! You're on to something. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9576563 United States 11/28/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you please explain like I'm five how the tail would grow longer if it were ice, instead of decreasing since heat typically melts ice? I would like to mention I'm not too aware of the electrical properties of comets so maybe that's what I'm missing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48330021 Well when the ice melts it releases the gases and dust trapped within the comet thus making the tail larger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48330021 United States 11/28/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you please explain like I'm five how the tail would grow longer if it were ice, instead of decreasing since heat typically melts ice? I would like to mention I'm not too aware of the electrical properties of comets so maybe that's what I'm missing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48330021 Well when the ice melts it releases the gases and dust trapped within the comet thus making the tail larger Thanks a ton, kind person! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31036137 United States 11/28/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you please explain like I'm five how the tail would grow longer if it were ice, instead of decreasing since heat typically melts ice? I would like to mention I'm not too aware of the electrical properties of comets so maybe that's what I'm missing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48330021 Classic Ice Model: Heat from Sun melts Ice and blown away by solar winds. Which creates the tail. Electric Theory: Heating the comet lowers total capacitance. Causing high voltages (millions of volts) to bleed out in a white/blue glow. Passing the Sun at perihelion Classic Ice Model: The comet should produce the largest tail at perihelion. As more ice is melted and faster, stronger solar winds. note* this did not happen. Electric Theory: The Sun has extreme voltages. At some point, there is a line crossed where the Suns voltage over powers the comets voltage. Causing the leeching of electrons to reverse direction back inside. Now the Sun is pushing electricity into the comet. Like a battery charger over powering the battery to charge it. While the Sun is over powering ISONs voltage, the tail ceases to exist completely. Shuts off, no more until the comet leaves that critical threshold. IF the comets tail grows very large after perihelion, considering the Ice model should have it melted away right now, proves it is electric. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9576563 United States 11/28/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you please explain like I'm five how the tail would grow longer if it were ice, instead of decreasing since heat typically melts ice? I would like to mention I'm not too aware of the electrical properties of comets so maybe that's what I'm missing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48330021 Well when the ice melts it releases the gases and dust trapped within the comet thus making the tail larger Thanks a ton, kind person! No problem man |
erchoz User ID: 34251105 Belgium 11/28/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not so fast. It's not because maybe 1 comet acted strange, that suddenly we should throw away the ice theory. It worked for other comets. Maybe this is just a weird comet or indeed: the core is gone and only some junk is left and so there is a trail, but no tail. Gives me more confidence than this electric theory. Last Edited by erchoz on 11/28/2013 05:07 PM erchoz |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9576563 United States 11/28/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you please explain like I'm five how the tail would grow longer if it were ice, instead of decreasing since heat typically melts ice? I would like to mention I'm not too aware of the electrical properties of comets so maybe that's what I'm missing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48330021 Similar to a contrail... Nothing to see here , move along please... And don't forget those chemtrails!!! Just because some extra shit is thrown into the mix doesn't mean the same science isn't being used! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46285887 United Kingdom 11/28/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love them sneaky "dirty snowballs". No doubt the "scientists" are and will continue to be baffled. Sadly I fear the only thing it will prove is the continuing contempt that established science has for the EU model. It may prove that we can't fix stupid, that's something at least. |
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Woot Woot User ID: 48063519 Canada 11/28/2013 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As the tail decreased during perihelion. If ice, the tail would grow larger, faster, stronger at perihelion. Quoting: --Voltaic-- I suggest comets are over powered by the Sun's electric potential and the voltage discharge reverses. Thus, preventing tail formation. Watch, the tail will now explode due to capturing A LOT of energy from the Sun. As ISON begins departure. As the comet, being a massive capacitor in space, just got a full charge from the Sun. Now it has LOTS of electric potential. I recall reading something suggesting the reverse during the Elenin approach ... long period comets traversing and picking up electrons such that they would be massively negatively charged on approach into inner solar system, and discharging that negative potential upon reaching critical distance to Sol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50172024 Thailand 11/28/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nytimes.com] New Answer Proposed for Tektites: a Comet By WALTER SULLIVAN Published: November 28, 1989 A SOVIET scientist has concluded that the small glassy tektites strewn across much of the Eastern Hemisphere fell far more recently than had been thought, throwing doubt on timing of the great catastrophe responsible for their deposition. The Soviet scientist, Emil P. Izokh a geologist at the Soviet Academy of Sciences in Novosibirsk, studied specimens collected at 120 sites throughout Vietnam. He has put the date of their arrival at about 10,000 years ago, whereas the popular view has been that the event occurred 700,000 years ago, at about the same time that the earth's magnetic field made a dramatic shift. ... For many years a group of Australian geologists has argued that the tektites there lay far too near the surface to have originated 700,000 years ago. They put the age at about 10,000 years. Dr. Brian Mason, emeritus curator of meteorites at the Smithsonian National Museum in Washington, said last week that studies that he and his colleagues had conducted indicated that they are about 5,000 years years old. [snip] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31036137 United States 11/28/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not so fast. Quoting: erchoz It's not because maybe 1 comet acted strange, that suddenly we should throw away the ice theory. It worked for other comets. Maybe this is just a weird comet or indeed: the core is gone and only some junk is left and so there is a trail, but no tail. Gives me more confidence than this electric theory. It worked because both models work on the basis of heat being the catalyst for the tail formation. BUT, the heat from the Sun is actually reducing the capacitance, causing the electrons that can't stick around to bleed out in a corona discharge. In this case, ISON crossed a line. It entered a zone of higher voltages so, as electricity has it, charges flow from higher voltages to lower voltages. Both models work on heat, which is why it worked for so many comets. BUT, this electric model works for those comets AND ison! |
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