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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/01/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People of the Earth can you hear me? Came a voice from the sky on that magical night And in the colors of a thousand sunsets They traveled through the world on a silvery light The people of the Earth stood waiting Watching as the ships came one by one Setting fire to the sky as they landed Carrying to the world Children Of The Sun... |
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forty seven User ID: 45770774 United Kingdom 12/01/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I....that which is me........dislike that which 'humans' allow that which 'you' have done....can as yet be repaired there is something within each part of you.......it is not much of a concern....and could be over looked but, for that infinitesimal spark.......I would stand for you as a race as individuals....you can stand for yourselves right or wrong.......you have the strength within to be better....and you should be allowed to proceed but should be put on notice that.......this world is not yours to destroy and responsibility cannot be given to another 100 years conditional discharge....daily visits necessary to confirm respect for 'home'. 47 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50545855 Switzerland 12/02/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this was your burning question xD Let me give you my take: As of today, humanity does not stand as one, alas there is not "one" representing it but many. If a common thread to humanity would arise, I still doubt we could come together, see Fukushima and/or natural disasters - Haiti, Katrina, Phailin, Deep Water Horizon etc. etc. The world does not stand as one in any of those occurences. There are thinly spread organisations dedicated to disaster-relief and governments will dispatch money to regions which have been hit. That is as far as it goes in most cases. Most times the countries in question are left on their own, not only by governments and organizations dedicated to specific disasters, but mostly by the vast majority of other humans, the lack of empathy regarding humans on the other side of the globe is one of the few things we as humans as a whole have in common. Luckily in case of hypothetical extraterrestrial threads from intelligent beings, there will be a weird phenomenon of mass-psychology triggering in the human brains. Same happend with germans rooting for hitler, it is the alienation of an enemy. The jews were portrayed as subhuman, therefore it was OK to kill them, they were not of the same species in the eye of the german - not only german, but a lot of humans in europe. What would happen if an unkown intelligence would visit us? If we can assume it is intelligent enough to travel through space, we should assume they would be intelligent enough to realize how social-structures work - that would be if they developed in a similiar way to humans. In which case they would probably pick up on current power-structures pretty quickly and would not be satisfied by any "representant" brought fourth through our own systems. If they were interested in real dialouge with a "representant" of humanity, they would likely pick one themselves based on objective standards measuring intelligence. If they would accept a single representant picked out by ourselves, it would probably be the leader of the self-proclaimed free world, the american president. If a conglomerate would be accepted it would likely be the G20 presidents. In case of a non-extraterrestrial disaster/threat, humanity is to divided to elect a single represantant who would actually represent the will of a majority of people. That is a systematic built in bug/feature of a democratic voting process though. The only way to force a single entity would be a vote where two candidates stand, and one will inevitably gather the absoloute majority of votes at 51%. There is no way though that all humans can come to a consensus as to what would qualify such a candidate and the traits associated with it. You would have to hold a vote where not two candidates are up to choosing but every single human on this planet is a candidate himself. Now it gets interesting, if everyone votes for himself we get some 7 billion representatives of earth. Since everyone "should" have his own desires and his own world view and what is best for it, that could be an satisfying answer. But in reality there are people who will sell their vote for pocket change, people who will be impressed by speeches and political ideas of others - leaving the though process leading up to those rather to others than to themselves and giving those people their votes. There are those that do not wish to vote, making the whole voting moot in itself, but than again, we can't force people to vote can we? xD Just wrote some of the stuff down that came to mind, I could probably go on for pages xD Have a nice day Angels! - BHZP |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/02/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I....that which is me........dislike that which 'humans' allow Quoting: forty seven that which 'you' have done....can as yet be repaired there is something within each part of you.......it is not much of a concern....and could be over looked but, for that infinitesimal spark.......I would stand for you as a race as individuals....you can stand for yourselves right or wrong.......you have the strength within to be better....and you should be allowed to proceed but should be put on notice that.......this world is not yours to destroy and responsibility cannot be given to another 100 years conditional discharge....daily visits necessary to confirm respect for 'home'. Hello 47 :) Thank you for the post...good to meet you! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/02/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this was your burning question xD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50545855 Let me give you my take: As of today, humanity does not stand as one, alas there is not "one" representing it but many. If a common thread to humanity would arise, I still doubt we could come together, see Fukushima and/or natural disasters - Haiti, Katrina, Phailin, Deep Water Horizon etc. etc. The world does not stand as one in any of those occurences. There are thinly spread organisations dedicated to disaster-relief and governments will dispatch money to regions which have been hit. That is as far as it goes in most cases. Most times the countries in question are left on their own, not only by governments and organizations dedicated to specific disasters, but mostly by the vast majority of other humans, the lack of empathy regarding humans on the other side of the globe is one of the few things we as humans as a whole have in common. Luckily in case of hypothetical extraterrestrial threads from intelligent beings, there will be a weird phenomenon of mass-psychology triggering in the human brains. Same happend with germans rooting for hitler, it is the alienation of an enemy. The jews were portrayed as subhuman, therefore it was OK to kill them, they were not of the same species in the eye of the german - not only german, but a lot of humans in europe. What would happen if an unkown intelligence would visit us? If we can assume it is intelligent enough to travel through space, we should assume they would be intelligent enough to realize how social-structures work - that would be if they developed in a similiar way to humans. In which case they would probably pick up on current power-structures pretty quickly and would not be satisfied by any "representant" brought fourth through our own systems. If they were interested in real dialouge with a "representant" of humanity, they would likely pick one themselves based on objective standards measuring intelligence. If they would accept a single representant picked out by ourselves, it would probably be the leader of the self-proclaimed free world, the american president. If a conglomerate would be accepted it would likely be the G20 presidents. In case of a non-extraterrestrial disaster/threat, humanity is to divided to elect a single represantant who would actually represent the will of a majority of people. That is a systematic built in bug/feature of a democratic voting process though. The only way to force a single entity would be a vote where two candidates stand, and one will inevitably gather the absoloute majority of votes at 51%. There is no way though that all humans can come to a consensus as to what would qualify such a candidate and the traits associated with it. You would have to hold a vote where not two candidates are up to choosing but every single human on this planet is a candidate himself. Now it gets interesting, if everyone votes for himself we get some 7 billion representatives of earth. Since everyone "should" have his own desires and his own world view and what is best for it, that could be an satisfying answer. But in reality there are people who will sell their vote for pocket change, people who will be impressed by speeches and political ideas of others - leaving the though process leading up to those rather to others than to themselves and giving those people their votes. There are those that do not wish to vote, making the whole voting moot in itself, but than again, we can't force people to vote can we? xD Just wrote some of the stuff down that came to mind, I could probably go on for pages xD Have a nice day Angels! - BHZP Yes it was BHZP :) and may I just say Holy Shit!! lol Awesome Post! You pointed out the main points and I Thank you very much! You have a great day as well honey :D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48667672 United States 12/02/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we would be the ones with the original suggestion of who should represent. It would be the other party that would initially suggest which human. Then, the suggestion would be discussed by humans as to why the choice of that particular individual. Most likely, in the beginning, humans would not understand why that person would be chosen over others. Eventually, it would become clear. But, it would seemingly be someone outside political agendas and militaristic mind sets. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/02/2013 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we would be the ones with the original suggestion of who should represent. Quoting: Spin Nips It would be the other party that would initially suggest which human. Then, the suggestion would be discussed by humans as to why the choice of that particular individual. Most likely, in the beginning, humans would not understand why that person would be chosen over others. Eventually, it would become clear. But, it would seemingly be someone outside political agendas and militaristic mind sets. You know SN I have to agree with you and BHZP said about the same...I appreciate you taking the time to stop by here and post your opinion. That feels absolutely right to me outside those agendas :) Also one other thing...I was just thinking about you...which is weird...that you just posted...got a question for ya...gonna send a PM your way. Hope you don't mind :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12102434 United States 12/02/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fire studied approximate black, himself, universe, me . . . near stopped hills, manifest process and portion to moreso scheme, currently times encase to repetitively for 'have' realm . . . remain of usually placing cling language . . . brainwash X-File, that's a thing . . . interesting . . . ripped . . . Quoting: Medium_Rare 48284563 what doesn't count . . . decisions inhabited from, I, new individual systems projection whilst female . . . Ive never seen a bigger obvious shill than this. must be some kind of mk ultra brainwashing code.. WE GOT A LIVE ONE |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/02/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Billy had a suggestion in this thread a few pages back...to ask my child what I thought. Well I did...I posted it in my other thread cause billy was there at the time and I wanted to get the response to him. Anyway at first he said a child...then he thought some more and said no because children do know as much as adults do...in the end he said it should be a mother :) I thought that was an excellent response... No one else has posted it but you know in the end...I have to agree with Spin and BHZP's responses :) Hope your having a good night Facts! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44140691 United States 12/02/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fire studied approximate black, himself, universe, me . . . near stopped hills, manifest process and portion to moreso scheme, currently times encase to repetitively for 'have' realm . . . remain of usually placing cling language . . . brainwash X-File, that's a thing . . . interesting . . . ripped . . . Quoting: Medium_Rare 48284563 what doesn't count . . . decisions inhabited from, I, new individual systems projection whilst female . . . Ive never seen a bigger obvious shill than this. must be some kind of mk ultra brainwashing code.. WE GOT A LIVE ONE Yo...he was all over the place...I don't know what it was...but whoever it was...knew what they were trying to do :P |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 941432 Canada 12/02/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Billy had a suggestion in this thread a few pages back...to ask my child what I thought. Well I did...I posted it in my other thread cause billy was there at the time and I wanted to get the response to him. Anyway at first he said a child...then he thought some more and said no because children do know as much as adults do...in the end he said it should be a mother :) I thought that was an excellent response... No one else has posted it but you know in the end...I have to agree with Spin and BHZP's responses :) Hope your having a good night Facts! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37073808 Switzerland 12/03/2013 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh god, this probably will sound insane and stupid but I've been pondering the question and it's implications for a few hours now. The only way to truthfully (s)elect a single person would be to hook up every human to the internet/the digital world and figure out a way to merge emotions and digital data somehow. I can't go into greater detail at the moment as I still do not understand the meaning of this and much less the consequences. One of the greatest things to publicly overcome/accept will be the darkness which is present in every human heart. How does this fit in one being? Ask yourself. To be honest this is my closet-dream, I haven't really disclosed this to anyone I know in "real-life"/the analog world, so I don't know to which degree it could be recognized as a feasible goal as a civilizational need in these times of systematic justice-denial. I honestly will volunteer for any digitalization-process though, even as it sounds blaspemous and crazy. But language as means of communication has long since reached it's limits as to how much information can be truthfully communicated/processed, as humans (even most adults) are still not able to express themselves through it. Fuck, becoming one is not something that will hapen over the course of a few years, it would take decades if not millenia if it would happen naturally and not be forced xD The question that lingers in my mind is this: Is digitalizing emotions the same thing as materializing emotions? Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhh we probably will not get an answer in our lifetime ;____; Sorry, just had to post this one, also, thanks for the praise my previous answer got, it was really only what was coming to mind at that time, just like this one. Besides the occasional occurances of roleplay in some nobody-threads (for shits and giggles) I truly have only one agenda, that being to broaden my horizon on the acceptance of some of the ideas and thoughts I have been keeping to myself for way to long due to the lack of any understanding opposition XD - BHZP |
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