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attila  User ID: 2215239  France12/04/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, in the US when serious stuff is transported near Livermore lab, they usually have it well protected with multiple armed escort vehicles. But I guess in Mexico they just load it on the back of a toyota pick up ok then explain our missing nukes they ain't missing, just went fizzling  |
| BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210  United States12/04/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, agreed - FF incoming. But please understand, "dirty bombs" are a weapon of mass deception much more than they are a weapon of mass destruction. In simplest terms, if you're far enough outside the blast radius that you don't breathe in any dust produced *by the bomb itself* then you incur no exposure, and thus no danger. Period. A biological attack, on the other hand, propagates at the speed of human activity, and can grow a substantial set of 'legs' during the latent period, before anyone is aware that the attack has even taken place. Yeah, I would be far more concerned about a biological attack than a dirty bomb attack... Now, if you want cause to evacuate everyone from an area for a few days ...---... say to secretly empty out a bank vault or something... but not really produce more than a few casualties, then a dirty bomb is perfect for the scenario. BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50358532  United Kingdom12/04/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll admit pure ignorance when it comes to nuclear waste. Anyone know how long it would take to use this material to create a dirty bomb and what the magnitude would be of said bomb? By the time someone broke this material down into a bomb would anyone remember this situation? Is this an overreaction in that a bomb made out of these materials would not be effective for the purpose? From my understanding there are still dirty bombs everywhere as a result of the break-down of the USSR that are already created and easy to come by so just doesn't make much sense that someone would go this route to create a dirty bomb that is less effective than one that could be purchase (or stolen) on the black market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 405769 all it would take is an explosive device even a fire work with enough yield to break the Radioactive capsules and there is your dirty bomb doesn't even have to be a big explosion if detonated in the right environment and there is your dirty bomb... Great. Just great. I know, nothing sophisticated and you have one hell of a world of hurt for a few people that's all it would take is one or two people with radioactive related injuries and the panic would be enough... |
| Bizarre Verewolf User ID: 29486623 United States12/04/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading a while back that there are mosques popping up in Mexico and Islam is rising a little, also heard whispers that Iranian sleepers were coming across the border through Mexico pretending to be from Mexico. My mother and I have also seen quite a few people around here who said they came from Mexico who acted a bit strange and overly friendly with accents that were off from others I've met from south of the border. I'm in a border town and have a lot of interaction with Mexicans/ south Americans etc. Could it be connected? Just my speculation. ~Deplorable Doom Husky~ DO NOT blame me for the actions of others :Bvglasses: Sharing is Caring! |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49178372 United States12/04/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading a while back that there are mosques popping up in Mexico and Islam is rising a little, also heard whispers that Iranian sleepers were coming across the border through Mexico pretending to be from Mexico. My mother and I have also seen quite a few people around here who said they came from Mexico who acted a bit strange and overly friendly with accents that were off from others I've met from south of the border. I'm in a border town and have a lot of interaction with Mexicans/ south Americans etc. Quoting: Bizarre Verewolf Could it be connected? Just my speculation. are you IDF, Kissinger or just trippin on salvia? you just recited the up coming official false flag cover up scenario a |
| BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States12/04/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same here! Strange that there'd be a theft like this in Mexico, considering the SECUREX2013 drill that was conducted at the Port of Houston back in September was specifically aimed toward a "dirty bomb" threat... [link to www.chron.com] Exactly.  BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same here! Strange that there'd be a theft like this in Mexico, considering the SECUREX2013 drill that was conducted at the Port of Houston back in September was specifically aimed toward a "dirty bomb" threat... [link to www.chron.com] Exactly. as weird as Israelis warning about dirtbomb terror act upcoming in a major US city due to Iran nuclear deal. so convenient to push up the agenda |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49980883  Canada12/04/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States12/04/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thieves may not even know what it is, and just steal anything and everything they can steal. Quoting: goodmockingbird The stuff is more likely to end up just abandoned somewhere. Some enterprising soul is likely to use its cobalt goodness to create some "miraculous" glow in the dark Virgin Mary statues. This is MEXICO, folks! Thievery is commonplace, information about hazardous material virtually nonexistent, and every scrap of vaguely reusable material eventually ends up in some flea market. It's partially decayed Cobalt... not fresh-from-the-oven hot, but still nasty stuff. Whoever removes that shit from it's mounting/capsule is going to have a very truncated lifespan, because 60-Co is both a hot beta and gamma emitter. Half-Life, on the other hand, is pretty damn short - about 5.25 years. So assuming this is "medical waste", then it has already completed at least one full H/L decay period, and probably a 2 or more H/Ls of decay. Meaning, it's not really hot enough to be the source of an "effective" dirty bomb... but it's hot enough that it can cause tons of panic. Se my previous posts about weapons of mass deception and their true value... BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49329178 United States12/04/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't radioactive materials be tracked by satellite? Quoting: synchro If the thieves know what they have, maybe they've shielded the material somehow to avoid detection?  Lead can be used... [link to en.wikipedia.org] Actually, Tungsten is more likely for shielding. [link to www.mi-techmetals.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12781064 United States12/04/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thieves may not even know what it is, and just steal anything and everything they can steal. Quoting: goodmockingbird The stuff is more likely to end up just abandoned somewhere. Some enterprising soul is likely to use its cobalt goodness to create some "miraculous" glow in the dark Virgin Mary statues. This is MEXICO, folks! Thievery is commonplace, information about hazardous material virtually nonexistent, and every scrap of vaguely reusable material eventually ends up in some flea market. It's partially decayed Cobalt... not fresh-from-the-oven hot, but still nasty stuff. Whoever removes that shit from it's mounting/capsule is going to have a very truncated lifespan, because 60-Co is both a hot beta and gamma emitter. Half-Life, on the other hand, is pretty damn short - about 5.25 years. So assuming this is "medical waste", then it has already completed at least one full H/L decay period, and probably a 2 or more H/Ls of decay. Meaning, it's not really hot enough to be the source of an "effective" dirty bomb... but it's hot enough that it can cause tons of panic. Se my previous posts about weapons of mass deception and their true value... you're right, it seems also like the start of a blockbuster movie: some obscure nuclear waste stolen in the dark suburbs of Mexico, development, blahblah, Iran, boom in the Us, panic fear, argument to launch an attack against Iran global nuclear threat. Operation northwood2.00 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50358532 United Kingdom12/04/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thieves may not even know what it is, and just steal anything and everything they can steal. Quoting: goodmockingbird The stuff is more likely to end up just abandoned somewhere. Some enterprising soul is likely to use its cobalt goodness to create some "miraculous" glow in the dark Virgin Mary statues. This is MEXICO, folks! Thievery is commonplace, information about hazardous material virtually nonexistent, and every scrap of vaguely reusable material eventually ends up in some flea market. It's partially decayed Cobalt... not fresh-from-the-oven hot, but still nasty stuff. Whoever removes that shit from it's mounting/capsule is going to have a very truncated lifespan, because 60-Co is both a hot beta and gamma emitter. Half-Life, on the other hand, is pretty damn short - about 5.25 years. So assuming this is "medical waste", then it has already completed at least one full H/L decay period, and probably a 2 or more H/Ls of decay. Meaning, it's not really hot enough to be the source of an "effective" dirty bomb... but it's hot enough that it can cause tons of panic. Se my previous posts about weapons of mass deception and their true value... Brilliant knowledge above ^^^^^^^ Green Heading your way buddy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21548336 United States12/04/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50323154  Mexico12/04/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so if it happened on monday, they must of waited awhile before releasing this to the public. Hoping that they could get it back within the golden 24 hr period Quoting: Durandal It was teported the day it happened, the questioanble ethics website that says nothing whilst knowing that pedophiles attack children on their premises you quoted, probably got the news after the fact. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50323154 Mexico12/04/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im guessign they just stole the truck Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49980883 the radioactive waste, is just that, waste, and if they open it they will get sick or die. HEY LETS CHECK WHATS IN THE CARGO juan ok padre Nope. The most likely probability, crimmies chancing upon a vehicle that contained something they no nothing about but which looked expensive enough to sell. They will prolly sell the vehicle and dump the contents now that it is known what is on board. At least police won't hav a problem finding them, just follow the green-yellow glowing people with their faces burning off... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50323154 Mexico12/04/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| goodmockingbird User ID: 41695598 United States12/04/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thieves may not even know what it is, and just steal anything and everything they can steal. Quoting: goodmockingbird The stuff is more likely to end up just abandoned somewhere. Some enterprising soul is likely to use its cobalt goodness to create some "miraculous" glow in the dark Virgin Mary statues. This is MEXICO, folks! Thievery is commonplace, information about hazardous material virtually nonexistent, and every scrap of vaguely reusable material eventually ends up in some flea market. It's partially decayed Cobalt... not fresh-from-the-oven hot, but still nasty stuff. Whoever removes that shit from it's mounting/capsule is going to have a very truncated lifespan, because 60-Co is both a hot beta and gamma emitter. Half-Life, on the other hand, is pretty damn short - about 5.25 years. So assuming this is "medical waste", then it has already completed at least one full H/L decay period, and probably a 2 or more H/Ls of decay. The thieves will probably puzzle over how to strip any usuble copper or tubing off of it, then -- dissappointed -- chunk the thing off in a bar ditch. Villagers will get curious and rummage around it some more, and pry it open. Some wide spot in the road village will have a spike in the cancer rate, many candles will be lighted to various saints. Local curanderas will rake in every available centavo for performing limpias and lighting more candles. Some constabulary, road crew boss, or prospector might eventually run across the thing and actually take a geiger counter reading, but by then then thing will have been rendered largely inert. Just another day in Meh-hee-co. The thing would be unlikely to enter the US through usual routes because of radiation testing at border crossings. Now if they could disguise it as just another stash of weed carried in by an illegal alien... it could easily end up anywhere. I Support Our First Responders |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46043901 United States12/04/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jon Williams @WilliamsJon 4m Quoting: z3rschmetterling IAEA warns obsolete radioactive medical equipment inside van stolen in Mexico. Fear is could make dirty bomb Don't worry though. They'll never get around to it. Everything's always mañana with those people. the false flag don't seem to procastinate much those times (9/11,......................../13) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033311 Mexico12/04/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  You people are too easily scared by fake news. Your government has you by the balls. Just give up your guns and don´t complain as you are rammed up your collective ass without vaseline. Relax, neighbors and get a government. Get rid of your warmonger criminals, for once.  |
| davvi User ID: 3677166 United States12/04/2013 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46043901 United States12/04/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are too easily scared by fake news. Your government has you by the balls. Just give up your guns and don´t complain as you are rammed up your collective ass without vaseline. Relax, neighbors and get a government. Get rid of your warmonger criminals, for once. Well, the democrats told us the wars were all Republicans' fault. So, we put a Democrat in. So, who do you want us to get rid of now? And as for fake news, maybe you haven't noticed that all of our governments' "drills" actually turn out to be "dress rehearsals". Houston had the latest dirty bomb drill. Vamos a ver... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45985387 United States12/04/2013 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| El Tiburon User ID: 28375544 United States12/04/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truck was carrying a decommissioned "Gamma Knife" used in the treatment of cancer. At best the unit could yield about 5 oz's of radioactive Cobalt. I am not sure if the 44,000lb shield becomes radioactive through the life of the machine? This 5 oz's = Approx 1.11 terabecquerel's If the machine was decommissioned, its payload was most likely past its 5 year half life. So it most likely contains 15 Curies or .06 terabecquerel's while still weighing 5oz's. Interestingly, Cobalt can be made radioactive by simply BLOWING IT UP... I am not sure if a dirty bomb could be made that would re-energize the cobalt back to it's original strength. ??? And yes, it is one of three "MOST LIKELY" to be used substances in a possible terrorist dirty bomb. Source: My head. |
| El Tiburon User ID: 28375544 United States12/04/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thieves may not even know what it is, and just steal anything and everything they can steal. Quoting: goodmockingbird The stuff is more likely to end up just abandoned somewhere. Some enterprising soul is likely to use its cobalt goodness to create some "miraculous" glow in the dark Virgin Mary statues. This is MEXICO, folks! Thievery is commonplace, information about hazardous material virtually nonexistent, and every scrap of vaguely reusable material eventually ends up in some flea market. It's partially decayed Cobalt... not fresh-from-the-oven hot, but still nasty stuff. Whoever removes that shit from it's mounting/capsule is going to have a very truncated lifespan, because 60-Co is both a hot beta and gamma emitter. Half-Life, on the other hand, is pretty damn short - about 5.25 years. So assuming this is "medical waste", then it has already completed at least one full H/L decay period, and probably a 2 or more H/Ls of decay. The thieves will probably puzzle over how to strip any usuble copper or tubing off of it, then -- dissappointed -- chunk the thing off in a bar ditch. Villagers will get curious and rummage around it some more, and pry it open. Some wide spot in the road village will have a spike in the cancer rate, many candles will be lighted to various saints. Local curanderas will rake in every available centavo for performing limpias and lighting more candles. Some constabulary, road crew boss, or prospector might eventually run across the thing and actually take a geiger counter reading, but by then then thing will have been rendered largely inert. Just another day in Meh-hee-co. The thing would be unlikely to enter the US through usual routes because of radiation testing at border crossings. Now if they could disguise it as just another stash of weed carried in by an illegal alien... it could easily end up anywhere. Has happened several times... [link to www.nucleonica.net] |
| attila User ID: 2215239 France12/04/2013 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
