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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens they must be using law/psychiatry in order to invoke this Accuracy of eyewitness memory for persons encountered during exposure to highly intense stress [link to www.nasams.org] How Our Brains Make Memories Surprising new research about the act of remembering may help people with post-traumatic stress disorder [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] Follow us: @SmithsonianMag on Twitter Flashbulb memory [link to en.wikipedia.org] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens police nationally have been under-going specialized 'psyche' training theyre also being trained in areas of aggressive response the "talk" is: the police - on a national scale - will eventually be nationalized under a one world police, governed by the united nations. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens here where im at....i have seen ppl arrested - and with no charges - they wait WEEKS....week dude.....for a specific charge. if a cop gives u a verbal day of...by the time ur arraigned the charges are diff. i dunno how the fuck theyre gettn away with this shit & circumventing rights. fkn attys are useless political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens yanno i have cousins NYPD and some retired/quit - they dont wanna be a part of this shit. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
TeamReaper User ID: 22030141 United States 12/05/2013 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens The Dallas Police Department can't seem to get its officers' statements on shootings to agree with recordings of the incidents. So, it's doing what any forward thinking law enforcement agency would do -- changing the rules. Quoting: Phennommennonn Any Dallas officer involved in a police shooting whether the officer fired a weapon or witnessed the gunfire will now have the right to remain silent for 72 hours under a new department policy. And even before they give a statement about the shooting, the officers can watch any available video before they give a statement. Very convenient. This policy change, which was ushered in under the cover of the Thanksgiving holiday, will help ensure that DPD officers don't find their statements directly contradicted by the inconveniently unblinking eye of the camera, as happened just recently. On October 14th, Dallas police officer Cardan Spencer shot a mentally ill man four times in the stomach. According to Spencer's partner, Christopher Watson (who wrote the report), the man (Bobby Gerald Bennett) moved "in a threatening manner" towards him and the other officer. Watson's statement even went so far as to say Bennett "lunged" at them. A statement released by the DPD a few hours after the shooting claimed the situation "escalated." A surveillance camera caught the entire confrontation on tape. Less than 20 seconds pass before Spencer opens fire. See if you can catch a glimpse of the "lunge" or the "escalation." [link to youtu.be] Bennett never lunges. He doesn't do anything more threatening than stand up from the chair he was sitting in. Four bullets later, Bennett is on the ground. Somehow, being shot four times by a DPD officer is "aggravated assault," a charge the DPD pressed (it was later dropped) while Bennett was still in critical condition. As a result of this, Spencer was fired and Watson suspended for making false statements. But this was only after Bennett's mother took the video to the media. Before she did this, DPD Chief David Brown watched the video and claimed his own officer's statement trumped his lying eyes. "The unfortunate thing here is that Officer Watson's statement really overrode what the video showed," Brown said. "We had not at that point determined if the video captured the entire incident, or if the video had not been altered in any way. We put a lot of credibility on officer's statements until we have other evidence to prove otherwise." Not so much anymore. Former DPD officer Cardan Spencer may be facing assault charges for shooting Bennett. Perhaps the saddest aspect of this whole debacle is the fact that Bennett's mother called the police because she was afraid her son (who has mental issues and was off his medication) might hurt himself. finish the article below [link to www.blacklistednews.com] State of Texas Penal Code does not have an attempted murder statute. Aggravated assault (22.02 b1) with a deadly weapon is a felony 1st degree. That's 5-99 years, plus it still could be moved to a capital felony. Just because it says "aggravated assault" doesn't mean you are not fucked. That said, new policy is BS. This is so wrong. In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when its there. -Major ******, U-2 Pilot/Instructor/Flight Commander |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51064034 Australia 12/05/2013 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens here where im at....i have seen ppl arrested - and with no charges - they wait WEEKS....week dude.....for a specific charge. if a cop gives u a verbal day of...by the time ur arraigned the charges are diff. i dunno how the fuck theyre gettn away with this shit & circumventing rights. fkn attys are useless yeah because arresting people, even just stopping/questioning them creates 'work' ie jobs, jailing them creates even more 'work' and more 'jobs'. With the shift of manufacturing to third world countries there isn't a lot of real 'work' in first world countries, so the shift is to criminalising life which creates 'work' for police/courts/jails' and to unnecessary and expensive 'education'. You have to go back to when the cops introduced the 'quota' system and those 'quota' fines became part of the revenue stream of the police (80's), that's when it all went bad. If you want to reverse it, get rid of the quota system. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens here where im at....i have seen ppl arrested - and with no charges - they wait WEEKS....week dude.....for a specific charge. if a cop gives u a verbal day of...by the time ur arraigned the charges are diff. i dunno how the fuck theyre gettn away with this shit & circumventing rights. fkn attys are useless yeah because arresting people, even just stopping/questioning them creates 'work' ie jobs, jailing them creates even more 'work' and more 'jobs'. With the shift of manufacturing to third world countries there isn't a lot of real 'work' in first world countries, so the shift is to criminalising life which creates 'work' for police/courts/jails' and to unnecessary and expensive 'education'. You have to go back to when the cops introduced the 'quota' system and those 'quota' fines became part of the revenue stream of the police (80's), that's when it all went bad. If you want to reverse it, get rid of the quota system. yea that aint gunna happen political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51064034 Australia 12/05/2013 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens ^ sorry bout the typos, hope the gist is clear, with the decline of work in first world countries, criminalising life becomes a generator of 'work' same with useless/expensive education, another generator of 'work' in first world countries. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens ^ sorry bout the typos, hope the gist is clear, with the decline of work in first world countries, criminalising life becomes a generator of 'work' same with useless/expensive education, another generator of 'work' in first world countries. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51064034 the popos where im at are fkn rogue - my towns police are cool tho - but elsewhere - these guys are hardcore - take a look at NY, i dont think its passed - but they wanted a law in NY "if you annoy a cop its a felony" how fkn vague is that?? [link to www.foxnews.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51064034 Australia 12/05/2013 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens here where im at....i have seen ppl arrested - and with no charges - they wait WEEKS....week dude.....for a specific charge. if a cop gives u a verbal day of...by the time ur arraigned the charges are diff. i dunno how the fuck theyre gettn away with this shit & circumventing rights. fkn attys are useless yeah because arresting people, even just stopping/questioning them creates 'work' ie jobs, jailing them creates even more 'work' and more 'jobs'. With the shift of manufacturing to third world countries there isn't a lot of real 'work' in first world countries, so the shift is to criminalising life which creates 'work' for police/courts/jails' and to unnecessary and expensive 'education'. You have to go back to when the cops introduced the 'quota' system and those 'quota' fines became part of the revenue stream of the police (80's), that's when it all went bad. If you want to reverse it, get rid of the quota system. yea that aint gunna happen Well then policing/criminalising existence becomes a prime source of 'work' in first world countries. I have asked a newly elected senator here to investigate how to wind it back, he'll get nowhere, I know that because it's a NWO platform that we are all criminals and should pay for existing (same as how the Brits made being poor a crime, then executed/or transported the poor here, in fear of a repeat of the French Revolution). |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens yanno, when the state police here started video cammin all police stops et al, (they use shoulder cams) and local popo's followed suit - if say a cop violates rights on film, and its clear that they did - the fkn defense attys dont even bother to utilize the tape to defend the client. they ignore the violation of rights completely. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Resister User ID: 1461638 United States 12/05/2013 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens How is this not criminal? "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24791913 United States 12/05/2013 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens police nationally have been under-going specialized 'psyche' training theyre also being trained in areas of aggressive response the "talk" is: the police - on a national scale - will eventually be nationalized under a one world police, governed by the united nations. Yes indeed. There will be a One World Police Force and here is some proof. International Association of Chiefs of Police [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to hound.s3.amazonaws.com] Notice that the logo has the same pyramid as all of the other New World Order logos, like this one [link to tinyrevolution.com] International Law Enforcement Academy [link to en.wikipedia.org] Notice that this organization is headed by the US State Dept.. US Law Enforcement is taught to the world so that everyone in police work will be interchangeable with everyone else around the world, just like the various militaries. What does your local police chief have to do with this? Why is he/she involved in an international group? The entire world is being altered right before your eyes and your local police chief is a part of it. |
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Kirk User ID: 49863729 United States 12/05/2013 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens If the cops shoot first and ask questions later this is really going to affect the reactions of people interacting with police. Need to hire some men that aren't cowards, That guy just stood there. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens police nationally have been under-going specialized 'psyche' training theyre also being trained in areas of aggressive response the "talk" is: the police - on a national scale - will eventually be nationalized under a one world police, governed by the united nations. Yes indeed. There will be a One World Police Force and here is some proof. International Association of Chiefs of Police [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to hound.s3.amazonaws.com] Notice that the logo has the same pyramid as all of the other New World Order logos, like this one [link to tinyrevolution.com] International Law Enforcement Academy [link to en.wikipedia.org] Notice that this organization is headed by the US State Dept.. US Law Enforcement is taught to the world so that everyone in police work will be interchangeable with everyone else around the world, just like the various militaries. What does your local police chief have to do with this? Why is he/she involved in an international group? The entire world is being altered right before your eyes and your local police chief is a part of it. we had sheriff mack on last night as a guest on the man cave show too political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens If the cops shoot first and ask questions later this is really going to affect the reactions of people interacting with police. Quoting: Kirk Need to hire some men that aren't cowards, That guy just stood there. A word to the wise Don't Talk to Police yanno thats always been a guinea thing? the italians were taught to avoid at all costs. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51064034 Australia 12/05/2013 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens There's a difference in common law between police men and women and policy enforcers, police men and women have and oath and if they're not under that oath they are impersonating police men and women. |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 41632673 United States 12/05/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens They need 72 hours to watch the video and make sure their story is not directly contradicted by the facts. Yea, that seems reasonable, doesn't it? Without this rule, they would have to amend their story later to match the facts. It sucks to be a cop in an age where everything is on video. Writing the fiction, known as a police report, is much harder now. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47754929 Germany 12/05/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens they must be using law/psychiatry in order to invoke this Quoting: Phennommennonn Accuracy of eyewitness memory for persons encountered during exposure to highly intense stress [link to www.nasams.org] How Our Brains Make Memories Surprising new research about the act of remembering may help people with post-traumatic stress disorder [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] Follow us: @SmithsonianMag on Twitter Flashbulb memory [link to en.wikipedia.org] It's really not that unusual. Goes back a long ways. Not familiar with Dallas. But ADA's are in no rush to speak to the shooter until the Department conducts an investigation. |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 41632673 United States 12/05/2013 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens they must be using law/psychiatry in order to invoke this Quoting: Phennommennonn Accuracy of eyewitness memory for persons encountered during exposure to highly intense stress [link to www.nasams.org] How Our Brains Make Memories Surprising new research about the act of remembering may help people with post-traumatic stress disorder [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] Follow us: @SmithsonianMag on Twitter Flashbulb memory [link to en.wikipedia.org] If you have ever been in court, you must have heard the term "trained observer". They are the pros. They see and remember every thing. The judge never even considers the idea that a cop could be wrong, or a liar. I took a cop's testimony apart in court, with a few facts and figures. When I was done, the judge ripped the cop a new ass hole. He told him "Never come in my court room poorly prepared like this again", and the case was thrown out. A couple buddies of mine paid their fines and never even tried to fight the injustice. That is what they are counting on. Fuck 'em! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/05/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dallas Police Rule Change Gives Officers 72 Hours To Get Their Stories Straight After Shooting Citizens they must be using law/psychiatry in order to invoke this Quoting: Phennommennonn Accuracy of eyewitness memory for persons encountered during exposure to highly intense stress [link to www.nasams.org] How Our Brains Make Memories Surprising new research about the act of remembering may help people with post-traumatic stress disorder [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] Follow us: @SmithsonianMag on Twitter Flashbulb memory [link to en.wikipedia.org] If you have ever been in court, you must have heard the term "trained observer". They are the pros. They see and remember every thing. The judge never even considers the idea that a cop could be wrong, or a liar. I took a cop's testimony apart in court, with a few facts and figures. When I was done, the judge ripped the cop a new ass hole. He told him "Never come in my court room poorly prepared like this again", and the case was thrown out. A couple buddies of mine paid their fines and never even tried to fight the injustice. That is what they are counting on. Fuck 'em! defacto political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |