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Game Changer: The Saudi's Seek To Re-Balance The Middle-East Against The U.S.

 
Saddletramp
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So how long before they dump the dollar? That's the real question...

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EILAT, Israel – Saudi Arabia is proposing a sweeping deal to Russia that solidifies Moscow’s position in the Middle East and Persian Gulf largely at the expense of the United States, according to informed Egyptian security officials.

The deal incorporates increased Russian involvement in Egypt, Syria and the Persian Gulf, and even involves a Saudi guarantee to aid against terror plots targeting the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

The Egyptian officials said the deal seeks to replace the U.S. with Russia as the major weapons dealer to Egypt.

However, the weapons sales to Cairo are only the tip of the potential re-balancing iceberg that follows a major fallout with the Saudis after President Obama’s outreach efforts to Iran.

The Saudis asked for the removal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad while Riyadh would help establish a permanent central Russian role in the future of Syria, with a military presence in the country, the officials said.

The Saudis offered to help clean out Syria of Islamic extremist elements while working with other countries, including Israel, to ensure the cooperation of the Free Syrian Army and moderate Alawite tribes in a post-Assad era...


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Saudi has trillions in US dollars, when the dollar is done so are they...
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No way the Russians give up Assad
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Dont worry Saudi will get their battle, the kings of the east are plotting and planning... it is coming.
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The Saudis better remember their place. They've been placed where they are by rich white men and if they don't play along they'll be bombed, burned, and blown all to hell like their cousins in neighboring countries by the same rich white men.
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No way the Russians give up Assad
 Quoting: TheGuidedOne


As I understand it, Russia wants Assad because of Syria. If the Saudis get their way in Syria while guaranteeing Russia's interests(the pipeline to Europe and naval base), Assad serves no purpose.
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No way the Russians give up Assad
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Russia doesn't care about Assad. They just don't want the US picking the next ruler for that country.
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Saudi has trillions in US dollars, when the dollar is done so are they...
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Saudi could begin the dump of Treasuries, they're still a big enough player to fuck us up in the Market...
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Saddle,I have a question for you.

I have read your posts on the advancing paradigm shift, and what is means to us in the United States as we lose the world reserve currency. I completely agree with you on the recommendations for beans/ammo, land, etc. Our nation is becoming a 3rd world nation with all the associated problems.

I'm a registered nurse in Ohio at a busy, urban hospital. I'm a patriot too, but I believe in non-violence. I'm buying ammo to protect myself and my family, not to
start a revolution against the establishment.

Do you have any recommendations as to what future jobs/careers? I am now learning to farm on a small scale, I have two acres, with the ability to lease 5 acres.

I believe the most obvious solution to our problems is at the local level, how to survive and thrive in the coming carnage.

Any insight?

Thank you for all of your info and advice on this forum!
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After reading my own question last night, I see that I have already answered it. (I was asleep, OK?)
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12/07/2013 10:14 AM

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I'm no expert, but this seems very bad to me. Basically a consolication of America's enemies into a nearly global coalition. And Little Barry has accomlished this in such a short time! He's done so much damage to the US both domestically and internationally that there is now no possible path to recovery in the foreseeable future, even if we were to elect pro-America canditdates to both houses of congress and the presidency. Which in itself is impossible, given the nature of the US elecctorate. There are some very dark clouds on the horizon, I'm afraid.
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Saddletramp (OP)
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12/07/2013 12:02 PM

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Saddle,I have a question for you.

I have read your posts on the advancing paradigm shift, and what is means to us in the United States as we lose the world reserve currency. I completely agree with you on the recommendations for beans/ammo, land, etc. Our nation is becoming a 3rd world nation with all the associated problems.

I'm a registered nurse in Ohio at a busy, urban hospital. I'm a patriot too, but I believe in non-violence. I'm buying ammo to protect myself and my family, not to
start a revolution against the establishment.

Do you have any recommendations as to what future jobs/careers? I am now learning to farm on a small scale, I have two acres, with the ability to lease 5 acres.

I believe the most obvious solution to our problems is at the local level, how to survive and thrive in the coming carnage.

Any insight?

Thank you for all of your info and advice on this forum!
 Quoting: Possum777


Sorry, I've been running here on the ranch with the cold weather, so I missed your question.

I think it's important to establish "community", whether that is just knowing who your neighbors are and what they are good at, or the community of your local church, etc...

No one has all the skills and resources available to survive all by themselves, especially not within a society like we have now where you are going to be living among other people no matter where you are.

Rural Communities will have more survivability because of just what I'm talking about. People in cities have no idea who their neighbors are or what they are good at.
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12/07/2013 01:17 PM
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Saudi Arabia is the creation of British Intelligence they will do as they are told!
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That's what you get when you're dealing with the devil.
Yeah, we didn't see that one coming. Like we didn't actually see those 4 jets filled to the brim with Saudi hijackers.

Hopefully they installed some kind of kill-switch in all those F-15's, F-16's, Apaches, tanks, RPG's, AAA's, ... the oil junkies sold them by the hundreds and thousands.

*OOPS*
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Thank you Saddle for the advice!
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Re: Game Changer: The Saudi's Seek To Re-Balance The Middle-East Against The U.S.
Saudi has trillions in US dollars, when the dollar is done so are they...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51044190


Saudi could begin the dump of Treasuries, they're still a big enough player to fuck us up in the Market...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Saudis+China, if we do not quit kicking sand in Chinas face.
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Saudi Arabia is the creation of British Intelligence they will do as they are told!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51022347


rofl

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