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You’re Too Old for MRI under Obama Care

 
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If your 45 or older:

Need a knee transplant? Here's a cane

Need a cornea transplant? Here's a cane

Need cancer treatment? Here's some morphine.

If your under 6 years old you're on your own.

Health care is only for current and future tax generating slaves that don't use health care according to the actuarial tables.

Health care expenses go to TPTB. That's 1/6 of the economy. I hope you fukin LibTards are happy.
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I hope all of them fucking die of a terrible, painful disease..... There really is no one and few things I hate worse.
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Would it interest any of you to know that my mom had both knees replaced at 60...my dad had radiation treatments for prostate cancer at 70...they both see their doctor regularly...and I'm on a short list for a minor procedure to fix a hole in my esophagus...and we never have to pay out of pocket...never have to fill out piles of ridiculous paperwork...never have to argue with insurance company reps...and never hear that we aren't eligible for a procedure.

In almost 50 years I've never once thought about, let alone stressed about, my health care needs (eye glasses and dentistry needs aside)

If I live to be 100 I'll never understand why so many Americans are opposed to a single payer system. It's cheaper, more efficient and doesn't force your grandparents to get jobs to pay their medical bills.

Just the lifetime's worth of headaches it alleviates from not having to deal with shopping for health care and dealing with insurance companies would be worth it, you'd think.

Here, each province handles their own healthcare system. The Fed just hands out cash...the provinces decide what to do with it. So you could have one province being managed less efficiently than another and having longer wait times for ex...but since we all pay into the same system we are more apt to be involved in how it's managed and demand changes.

It's not perfect...but it's sure less stressful...which alone equates to better health.
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How bout we ship you 30 million worthless africans
30 million illegal wetbacks
another 15 million anchor babies and families
14 million worthless unionized government employees at all levels
30 million junkies drunks and shitbags
6 million convicted criminals


and all of those pieces of human shit get better health care including dental and eye care than you do , While you get pushed too the way back of the line cause you are white working tax payers


then you will understand
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Not to mention that this government healthcare is not even being considered.

Obamacare doesn't provide one bandaid! It's all about INSURANCE and NOT actual healthcare.

This government doesn't own hospitals and clinics and medical equipment! It can't possibly supply a damned thing.

All it is doing is taking control of who does and to whom by choking the system to death via INSURANCE and payment for healthcare.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Well Pollyanna if you and people like you were running it, it might be a nice thing.

Unfortunately in America it's created and run by psychopaths
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Right. So take it from the psychopaths and turn it over to the people.

So please go in the corner and STFU mmmk? hf
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So yes, those who would do us the most harm will have the information needed to do it.


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Uh, no. I'm an American citizen. I am NOT going to sign up for this bullshit. I am NOT going to submit to an IRS taking my money. I will either LEAVE THE FUCKING HOMELAND or I will WAGE WAR ON THE OPPRESSORS. Mark my words.
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BE very careful what you say. They are watching everything. Trust only people you know VERY well.
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It will be worse than you expect. Even the people that Obamacare intends to help the most (muslims, commies and dancing boys) will suffer greatly. This is because doctors and nurses will run from their professions for fear of their own lives. You can only tell families of salvageable dying people to shove it and say goodbye so many times before a family member comes back to the hospital seeing red and packing heat. Hospitals will be abandoned by the doctors and nurses within a month of actual Obamacare implementation.
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It will be worse than you expect. Even the people that Obamacare intends to help the most (muslims, commies and dancing boys) will suffer greatly. This is because doctors and nurses will run from their professions for fear of their own lives. You can only tell families of salvageable dying people to shove it and say goodbye so many times before a family member comes back to the hospital seeing red and packing heat. Hospitals will be abandoned by the doctors and nurses within a month of actual Obamacare implementation.
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I am sure the sick minded fucking liberal diseases have thought to write a rule to make that all ok..... You know like gun free zones......
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too old, too sick, too disabled, too fat, too this or that- you're worthless to tptb ...they have 2 billion chinese and indian slaves....they only need the fertile ground many of your houses currently occupy.
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So yes, those who would do us the most harm will have the information needed to do it.


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Uh, no. I'm an American citizen. I am NOT going to sign up for this bullshit. I am NOT going to submit to an IRS taking my money. I will either LEAVE THE FUCKING HOMELAND or I will WAGE WAR ON THE OPPRESSORS. Mark my words.
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BE very careful what you say. They are watching everything. Trust only people you know VERY well.
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agent You can't run we know who and where you are.
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Well Pollyanna if you and people like you were running it, it might be a nice thing.

Unfortunately in America it's created and run by psychopaths
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Right. So take it from the psychopaths and turn it over to the people.

So please go in the corner and STFU mmmk? hf
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What's the matter? Don't like anything that conflicts with your world view?
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This is not about anybody's world view. And if we could take it from the psychopaths, don't you think we would????

They have us greatly outnumbered and don't play by any rules.

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One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Would it interest any of you to know that my mom had both knees replaced at 60...my dad had radiation treatments for prostate cancer at 70...they both see their doctor regularly...and I'm on a short list for a minor procedure to fix a hole in my esophagus...and we never have to pay out of pocket...never have to fill out piles of ridiculous paperwork...never have to argue with insurance company reps...and never hear that we aren't eligible for a procedure.

In almost 50 years I've never once thought about, let alone stressed about, my health care needs (eye glasses and dentistry needs aside)

If I live to be 100 I'll never understand why so many Americans are opposed to a single payer system. It's cheaper, more efficient and doesn't force your grandparents to get jobs to pay their medical bills.

Just the lifetime's worth of headaches it alleviates from not having to deal with shopping for health care and dealing with insurance companies would be worth it, you'd think.

Here, each province handles their own healthcare system. The Fed just hands out cash...the provinces decide what to do with it. So you could have one province being managed less efficiently than another and having longer wait times for ex...but since we all pay into the same system we are more apt to be involved in how it's managed and demand changes.

It's not perfect...but it's sure less stressful...which alone equates to better health.
 Quoting: swansong


How bout we ship you 30 million worthless africans
30 million illegal wetbacks
another 15 million anchor babies and families
14 million worthless unionized government employees at all levels
30 million junkies drunks and shitbags
6 million convicted criminals


and all of those pieces of human shit get better health care including dental and eye care than you do , While you get pushed too the way back of the line cause you are white working tax payers


then you will understand
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clappa
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It will be worse than you expect. Even the people that Obamacare intends to help the most (muslims, commies and dancing boys) will suffer greatly. This is because doctors and nurses will run from their professions for fear of their own lives. You can only tell families of salvageable dying people to shove it and say goodbye so many times before a family member comes back to the hospital seeing red and packing heat. Hospitals will be abandoned by the doctors and nurses within a month of actual Obamacare implementation.
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I am sure the sick minded fucking liberal diseases have thought to write a rule to make that all ok..... You know like gun free zones......
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Dangit! You're right! They've made laws saying that the scenario I've outlined would be illegal. Therefore, it would be impossible to ever play out that way. Dang liberals think of everything.
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"...If IPAB denies treatment, there is no appeal because IPAB is only accountable to President Obama. The courts or Congress cannot override that decision. At least under private health care insurance, if you are denied treatment, you have an appeal process in place to defend your ability to have treatment paid by your insurance plan..." - [link to libertyfirewall.com]
 Quoting: The Firewall


Death Panels?.....what Death Panels????

Sarah says....."told ya so"

gosarah
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Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann warned of these "Death Panels"....and they were ridiculed for it.

This video is from 2009....America didn't listen.


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Beck warned you too.

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Would it interest any of you to know that my mom had both knees replaced at 60...my dad had radiation treatments for prostate cancer at 70...they both see their doctor regularly...and I'm on a short list for a minor procedure to fix a hole in my esophagus...and we never have to pay out of pocket...never have to fill out piles of ridiculous paperwork...never have to argue with insurance company reps...and never hear that we aren't eligible for a procedure.

In almost 50 years I've never once thought about, let alone stressed about, my health care needs (eye glasses and dentistry needs aside)

If I live to be 100 I'll never understand why so many Americans are opposed to a single payer system. It's cheaper, more efficient and doesn't force your grandparents to get jobs to pay their medical bills.

Just the lifetime's worth of headaches it alleviates from not having to deal with shopping for health care and dealing with insurance companies would be worth it, you'd think.

Here, each province handles their own healthcare system. The Fed just hands out cash...the provinces decide what to do with it. So you could have one province being managed less efficiently than another and having longer wait times for ex...but since we all pay into the same system we are more apt to be involved in how it's managed and demand changes.

It's not perfect...but it's sure less stressful...which alone equates to better health.
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How bout we ship you 30 million worthless africans
30 million illegal wetbacks
another 15 million anchor babies and families
14 million worthless unionized government employees at all levels
30 million junkies drunks and shitbags
6 million convicted criminals


and all of those pieces of human shit get better health care including dental and eye care than you do , While you get pushed too the way back of the line cause you are white working tax payers


then you will understand
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hesrighthesright
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Well Pollyanna if you and people like you were running it, it might be a nice thing.

Unfortunately in America it's created and run by psychopaths
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Right. So take it from the psychopaths and turn it over to the people.

So please go in the corner and STFU mmmk? hf
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What's the matter? Don't like anything that conflicts with your world view?
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Ok Pollyanna, so how do we take it away from them when they own everything including the media?
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show some proof ass wipe.
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"...If IPAB denies treatment, there is no appeal because IPAB is only accountable to President Obama. The courts or Congress cannot override that decision. At least under private health care insurance, if you are denied treatment, you have an appeal process in place to defend your ability to have treatment paid by your insurance plan..." - [link to libertyfirewall.com]
 Quoting: The Firewall



But don't worry!!

All is not lost.

obamacare, in all it's wisdom, skipped to the chase and offered those who are over 30 yrs old a chance to retract from life and offer unto those who are more deserving....


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:Norman Thomas:
"The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty"
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So yes, those who would do us the most harm will have the information needed to do it.


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Uh, no. I'm an American citizen. I am NOT going to sign up for this bullshit. I am NOT going to submit to an IRS taking my money. I will either LEAVE THE FUCKING HOMELAND or I will WAGE WAR ON THE OPPRESSORS. Mark my words.
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So yes, those who would do us the most harm will have the information needed to do it.


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 Quoting: Bluebird



Uh, no. I'm an American citizen. I am NOT going to sign up for this bullshit. I am NOT going to submit to an IRS taking my money. I will either LEAVE THE FUCKING HOMELAND or I will WAGE WAR ON THE OPPRESSORS. Mark my words.
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^^^^^^. THIS ^^^^^^^^

Nice
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I just turned 39! Oh Shit
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"...If IPAB denies treatment, there is no appeal because IPAB is only accountable to President Obama. The courts or Congress cannot override that decision. At least under private health care insurance, if you are denied treatment, you have an appeal process in place to defend your ability to have treatment paid by your insurance plan..." - [link to libertyfirewall.com]
 Quoting: The Firewall


Death Panels?.....what Death Panels????

Sarah says....."told ya so"

gosarah
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann warned of these "Death Panels"....and they were ridiculed for it.

This video is from 2009....America didn't listen.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Beck warned you too.


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Death Panels were always part of Obamacare...from the beginning.

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New law does nothing to lower costs
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Ok Pollyanna, so how do we take it away from them when they own everything including the media?
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If you want to have a conversation, fine...but there's no need for the name calling.

I worked for a time doing telephone surveys one winter when I needed some cash. One of the surveys we did was in the states right after Obama announced his health care "plan".

We were calling Michigan one night and I was stunned. No one really knew what it was about...just that it was gov health care. "Communism", "socialism"..."No politician is going to control my health care", etc etc...

The survey didn't offer an option for a single payer system but people were overwhelmingly not in favor of the gov having anything to do with health care.

It's about changing attitudes first.

You have a system where there is a patient...and a doctor. The doctor wants to get paid and you want to get healthy. Simple...except that in between you 2 is a blood sucking parasite...the insurance company.

Now keep in mind this company doesn't really DO anything. They don't create medical advancements or medicines...they don't heal people...nothing. All they do is sit in the middle and take a cut for being the middle man.

It's not unlike drug dealing in the sense that the more middle men between you and the product the more it will cost.

Here in canada...there's a doctor...and a patient.

The Dr gets paid from the gov based on the number of patients he sees...plus they also have other financial incentives to do good work...like getting patients to quit smoking, etc...

He doesn't have to deal with a greedy insurance provider constantly trying to limit his patients care and neither do I. We are both much happier.

And to those that say we don't have minorities...it just goes to show how little you know about our country. We have a huge aboriginal population living on reserves...tax free. Natives are the fastest growing segment of the population. In a number of years they will no longer be the minority.

Granted we don't have mexicans pouring over the border...but that's because it's fucking cold...and we have to deal with that...so there.

Anyway...it won't be long before we do have people pouring over the border to work cheap and get health care...only it'll be Americans. Just make sure to bring a warm coat.

It's -27 + the wind chill right now...making it feel like -35. Instead of whining about our health care we whine about the weather. It's always something.
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and people wonder why we look forward to doom!!!
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If you are over 70 and require any related neurosurgical operation....you won't get it.
You will only get palliative care
(they dope you up and keep you mindless until you die).

Listen for yourself......

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Lots of Good articles on that page!

Great post.
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Other things you are too old for under Obamacare:

Cardiac stents. They are only for the elite now. The rest of us will likely get only the balloon surgery with no stent. I think that's standard in the EU so if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us the unwashed masses here.

There will be a whole plethora of procedures that are no longer available. That's why Obama took 500 billion from Medicare.

Ezekiel Emanuel's "complete Lives" theory treats only those 15-49 as they are the current working force. The very young and the elderly are not worth saving.


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Yep.

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Mmmm. Interesting.

My mother just had a few of those recently. She's 89.

I'm not looking forward to getting old for so many reasons. I will continue to pray and trust God.
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Yeah, there's a good plan.
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It's the best plan ever thought of.
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Mmmm. Interesting.

My mother just had a few of those recently. She's 89.

I'm not looking forward to getting old for so many reasons. I will continue to pray and trust God.
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Yeah, there's a good plan.
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It's the best plan ever thought of.
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So do nothing and pray is the best plan?


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So yes, those who would do us the most harm will have the information needed to do it.


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Uh, no. I'm an American citizen. I am NOT going to sign up for this bullshit. I am NOT going to submit to an IRS taking my money. I will either LEAVE THE FUCKING HOMELAND or I will WAGE WAR ON THE OPPRESSORS. Mark my words.
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BE very careful what you say. They are watching everything. Trust only people you know VERY well.
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agent You can't run we know who and where you are.
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Well then FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!!!! BRING IT FAG BAG!
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Shut up and enjoy watching the baby boomer die-off that they voted for themselves. We have front row seats to watching the most selfish generations see where this has lead them. Buh-bye





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