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Counterfeit Christianity. Christian TV Evangelists who have joined Illuminati ranks Then & Now. Look close and pay attention.

 
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
 Quoting: Salt


I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
 Quoting: bigD111


i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
 Quoting: Salt


sb1

Lots of phony belief systems out there. Pentacostal is one. I came out of the false RCC cult and was shocked by all the lies I'd been fed and what the TRUTH actually is.

Stay away from the Religions and let the Holy Spirit guide you OUT.
 Quoting: conspiracyorreality


I think we all agree with you and Salt on this, the other poster is actually speaking about something else that's private, not public
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i'm going nigh nigh now.
you guys keep this going as much as you want
i will see it in the morning

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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
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So, have you found anyone to translate what you're saying or are you just speaking gibberish? Speaking gibberish is not a gift from God. I can make fart noise with my armpit, is that of divine origin as well?
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the more organized a religion the more opportunity for corruption.

so with that in mind the word religion already reeks of corruption.

i have my spiritual beliefs. every now and then i will air them. they are my own.

like it or not everyone else is in the same boat. they just do not realize it. They think they are christian or jew or muslim or hindu... but these sub divide until you are left alone with your own unique set of beliefs that may in themselves be changing day to day, hour to hour, till the day you die.

i think most humans seek some kind of connection with God. but i think we are here to find it through our own lives in our own unique way.

Religions are the Devils details. The broad paths leading from the narrow.
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So many of you talk and yet say nothing. And yet forever on you talk, thinking you achieve what?

The key to eternal salvation? Is that what your religion offers?

Keep talking. talk until the end of time. you and the ants will have achieved the same, only you will feel superior.

how much value does god place in your talk?
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111


So, have you found anyone to translate what you're saying or are you just speaking gibberish? Speaking gibberish is not a gift from God. I can make fart noise with my armpit, is that of divine origin as well?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


It is language. I have not found an interpreter. Holy Spirit knows what I am saying. Obviously, time has borne this out. Don't mean to get you people riled up! It is a gift of the Spirit imho.
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this is going to sound twisted, but watch out for the big prosperity preachers doing lots of humanitarian work. its NOT what it seems. lots of illuminati are involved in humanitarian efforts - or so it seems. lot at brad and angelina, et al.
 Quoting: Salt


I think there may be truth to this. My observations is that a lot of the big corporation churches are all into going to Myanmmar. It seems like every big church around is going there. Made my alarm bell go off for some reason. Why is it ONLY Myanmar?
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Because Hillary went there and opened the door!
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the more organized a religion the more opportunity for corruption.

so with that in mind the word religion already reeks of corruption.

i have my spiritual beliefs. every now and then i will air them. they are my own.

like it or not everyone else is in the same boat. they just do not realize it. They think they are christian or jew or muslim or hindu... but these sub divide until you are left alone with your own unique set of beliefs that may in themselves be changing day to day, hour to hour, till the day you die.

i think most humans seek some kind of connection with God. but i think we are here to find it through our own lives in our own unique way.

Religions are the Devils details. The broad paths leading from the narrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51206245


So many of you talk and yet say nothing. And yet forever on you talk, thinking you achieve what?

The key to eternal salvation? Is that what your religion offers?

Keep talking. talk until the end of time. you and the ants will have achieved the same, only you will feel superior.

how much value does god place in your talk?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51206245


would it be outside of reasonable thought that the creator keeps in touch with that that He has created?

Who the fuck are you to get between them?
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Hey there, Salt.... Good thread.

I find it very difficult to accept ANY of the television evangelist as the genuine article. I believe most of them, if not all of them are money-grubbing scum.

Be aware of false idols.... This covers celebrities, sports figures, and televangelists.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


yep. when money and faith are mixed, the whole thing gets polluted and weird.
 Quoting: Salt


^this
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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My grandfather was a Mason. In 1967 we changed churches from Presbyterian to Baptist. I found out later in life why - the Masons are the ones that started the whole 'Moral Majority'. All controlled opposition. Fallwell, all of them.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


yep, i hear you. and what's worse is that most of the "southern" denominations have white supremists in the woodpile, ifyouknowhatimean.

look at dudes like shepherd's chapel arnold murray and the like... all kkk and supplying ji-normous amounts of money to that cause
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It's kind of ironic that you are a mod in this site and you speak against kkk and racism. Good for you. Don't know if I could work for admitted racists and be against racism. You have more temperament than me.
Now that I think of it, it's almost like being a preacher and allowing "Thriller" performances. I am NOT trolling. But do you see my point?
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
 Quoting: bigD111


unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


I have to respectfully disagree, Salt, the "GIFTS" are absolutely real...

We are also told NOT to despise the prophecies that accompany the gift of Tongues..

I am a witness of both....

Peacehf
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


I have to respectfully disagree, Salt, the "GIFTS" are absolutely real...

We are also told NOT to despise the prophecies that accompany the gift of Tongues..

I am a witness of both....

Peacehf
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no. sorry.
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This is the most important thread going bump 5 stars

Much to say on the topic and my most recent experience at a " church"

They have all become movie theaters or " entertainment centers"
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
 Quoting: bigD111


unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


I have to respectfully disagree, Salt, the "GIFTS" are absolutely real...

We are also told NOT to despise the prophecies that accompany the gift of Tongues..

I am a witness of both....

Peacehf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


no. sorry.
 Quoting: Salt



1 Thess. 5: 17-19

"17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit."
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This is the most important thread going bump 5 stars

Much to say on the topic and my most recent experience at a " church"

They have all become movie theaters or " entertainment centers"
 Quoting: GT500


do tell!

here's the thing...
when church becomes a franchise or a business, the priorities and interests get screwed up. the priority is to create an environment that assures butts in the seats. so you get feel-good messages and surround sound theatrics. what you don't get is real solid teaching or church fellowship environments that are serving any real purpose for God.

find me a small humble temple with about 15 ppl amidst self-sustaining gardens that are doing everything they can to pull resources to aid the community.

big mega churches are for faux-faith religiosity in the name of the self-serving egos of the dumbed down sheep who don't give a rats ass about serving God, serving others or walking the Christian life. they want a comfy place to sit for about 30 mins while they endure a message and compare themselves to the material possessions of their peers for judgmental sneers and snubs down the road.

dead mens' bones...

there is nothing new on this earth
Paul talked about the same attitude in the early church.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


I have to respectfully disagree, Salt, the "GIFTS" are absolutely real...

We are also told NOT to despise the prophecies that accompany the gift of Tongues..

I am a witness of both....

Peacehf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


no. sorry.
 Quoting: Salt



1 Thess. 5: 17-19

"17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit."
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


yes. and your point is?
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I have to respectfully disagree, Salt, the "GIFTS" are absolutely real...

We are also told NOT to despise the prophecies that accompany the gift of Tongues..

I am a witness of both....

Peacehf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


no. sorry.
 Quoting: Salt



1 Thess. 5: 17-19

"17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit."
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


yes. and your point is?
 Quoting: Salt


I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
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no. sorry.
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1 Thess. 5: 17-19

"17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit."
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


yes. and your point is?
 Quoting: Salt


I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


you are a fraud.
you are a witness to demonic activity.
you are involved in a cult called the pentacostal church.
i implore you to not lead another soul into this mess.

you won't listen tho.
you get a lot of ego stroke from your position, i'm sure.
sorry to be so harsh, but, it's the truth.
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find me a small humble temple with about 15 ppl amidst self-sustaining gardens that are doing everything they can to pull resources to aid the community.
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^^THIS^^
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1 Thess. 5: 17-19

"17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit."
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


yes. and your point is?
 Quoting: Salt


I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


you are a fraud.
you are a witness to demonic activity.
you are involved in a cult called the pentacostal church.
i implore you to not lead another soul into this mess.

you won't listen tho.
you get a lot of ego stroke from your position, i'm sure.
sorry to be so harsh, but, it's the truth.
 Quoting: Salt


Seriously???

As your avatar promotes smoking...should I trust your sincerity?

I am a Holy Spirit filled believer in Jesus Christ.

I promote Jesus Christ and the Word as Truth...

I suggest that you search any of my replies...I have NEVER promoted anything else.

Peacehf
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I went to a local Assembly of God and the people were warm and welcoming even though the sermon was a bit theatrical. During the service a woman behind me started "speaking in tongues" .. incoherent babbling and I was like WHAT.

After the service I was approached by another member and I related to him how I had grown up in a religious cult. His response to me? Many believe THIS church is a cult. I was like then why are you still here lol. But I believe God spoke through this man to me to say nope, this one isn't it.

So with some research I learned this was a Pentacostal denomination.

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yes. and your point is?
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I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


you are a fraud.
you are a witness to demonic activity.
you are involved in a cult called the pentacostal church.
i implore you to not lead another soul into this mess.

you won't listen tho.
you get a lot of ego stroke from your position, i'm sure.
sorry to be so harsh, but, it's the truth.
 Quoting: Salt


Seriously???

As your avatar promotes smoking...should I trust your sincerity?

I am a Holy Spirit filled believer in Jesus Christ.

I promote Jesus Christ and the Word as Truth...

I suggest that you search any of my replies...I have NEVER promoted anything else.

Peacehf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


smoking is not a salvation issue
if it were, half of the apostles and most of the saints would be condemned to hell
but you won't understand that because pentacostals still think that they can, at some point, achieve a sinless life and earn their own redemption.

i don't smoke, btw.
i used to. but not anymore.
the avatar has nothing to do with promoting smoking, lol. a what it does represent is probably over your head anyway.
but, pentacostals spend 99 percent of their time sitting in a judgment seat over other people. these are the ones who picture themselves on the edge of the pit rejoicing for those whom they believe deserve eternal damnation and hellfire, hoping they will burn, burn burn!!

you support glossolalia and satanic jibberish in the satanic pentacostal cult that teaches people heretic messages that keep them from communicating with God. the pentacostal tongue interpreter is nothing more than a sylvia browne medium for satan himself.

you may be Spirit-filled. but you are completely backslidden until you repent and get away from your cult practices.

i won't argue with you on this. it's pointless because you are completely brainwashed and love what you are doing. it makes you feel special and important.
pentacostal church is COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY.
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This is the most important thread going bump 5 stars

Much to say on the topic and my most recent experience at a " church"

They have all become movie theaters or " entertainment centers"
 Quoting: GT500


do tell!

here's the thing...
when church becomes a franchise or a business, the priorities and interests get screwed up. the priority is to create an environment that assures butts in the seats. so you get feel-good messages and surround sound theatrics. what you don't get is real solid teaching or church fellowship environments that are serving any real purpose for God.

find me a small humble temple with about 15 ppl amidst self-sustaining gardens that are doing everything they can to pull resources to aid the community.

big mega churches are for faux-faith religiosity in the name of the self-serving egos of the dumbed down sheep who don't give a rats ass about serving God, serving others or walking the Christian life. they want a comfy place to sit for about 30 mins while they endure a message and compare themselves to the material possessions of their peers for judgmental sneers and snubs down the road.

dead mens' bones...

there is nothing new on this earth
Paul talked about the same attitude in the early church.
 Quoting: Salt


Don't need to you have already perfectly said it , I don't watch Television church , I don't go to Church , I just read my bible and pray .....

Just like The Lord said in the end times " watch and pray"

I'm just coming back to the faith , there are many worm holes in this truth " game" but God can light our way ........

This thread is exposing one of the biggest issues our nation is facing " deception "

People are completely deceived and don't even know it..........
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Let's all get in our cars and go down to the local church and ask the leadership about 503-1c laws and why Americans are being lied to day in day out?

Please God help our Country wake up.......

The Church I went to a couple of weeks ago was like most " Mission Church " mean while ours sinks into the Ocean !

I get it , it's all part of the plan but very frustrating to watch .........
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Let's all get in our cars and go down to the local church and ask the leadership about 503-1c laws and why Americans are being lied to day in day out?

Please God help our Country wake up.......
 Quoting: GT500


I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Let's all get in our cars and go down to the local church and ask the leadership about 503-1c laws and why Americans are being lied to day in day out?

Please God help our Country wake up.......
 Quoting: GT500


I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
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Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
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Let's all get in our cars and go down to the local church and ask the leadership about 503-1c laws and why Americans are being lied to day in day out?

Please God help our Country wake up.......
 Quoting: GT500


I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
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I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
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