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Let's all get in our cars and go down to the local church and ask the leadership about 503-1c laws and why Americans are being lied to day in day out?

Please God help our Country wake up.......
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I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
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I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
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Your wording I'm not sure of but I've covered the topic on my threads before , my threads usually go all over the place , as spoken just going to hang back a bit .........

Side note : we have all been lied to , every single one of us........
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I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
 Quoting: GT500


I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Your wording I'm not sure of but I've covered the topic on my threads before , my threads usually go all over the place , as spoken just going to hang back a bit .........

Side note : we have all been lied to , every single one of us........
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since this conversation bears on the topic of this thread, please continue.
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I've love to hear what you think it is about which I am being lied to, as well as the relevancy of 503-1c to any of it.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
 Quoting: GT500


I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Your wording I'm not sure of but I've covered the topic on my threads before , my threads usually go all over the place , as spoken just going to hang back a bit .........

Side note : we have all been lied to , every single one of us........
 Quoting: GT500

My church never lied to me, the bible doesn't lie, and God cannot lie. Only Man lies, and constantly. That is why we pray for the gift of discernment
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Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
 Quoting: GT500


I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Your wording I'm not sure of but I've covered the topic on my threads before , my threads usually go all over the place , as spoken just going to hang back a bit .........

Side note : we have all been lied to , every single one of us........
 Quoting: GT500


since this conversation bears on the topic of this thread, please continue.
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Will do Salt , it's simple you have already covered all of it

The Church is completely infiltrated and derailed like a bad thread , it does not mean good little mom and pop churches don't exist " they do"

But the 95% is complete junk and lies and has been for a long time ....

Ok ? What now? I'm glad you asked ........

God is still on the thrown , still in control , and still in complete power ......

Our personal relationship with him is the power and the glory " not the church building " the devil trembles in fear over what God can do through one single man or woman ........don't ever forget that

The devil is a liar that's all he ever was and all he will ever be ..........

He is about to rise up and conquer the entire world and many will go after him receiving a mark on their foreheads or right hand .......

But..........when The Lord comes in his glory people will say " this is the man who ruled the world "?

The Lord has utterly destroyed him........
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Ok , do they ever talk about the Federal Reserve or our monetary system and how evil and corrupt it is? Do they ever talk about any of the evil our Government is doing? " no " they can't!

Thanks to those laws , if they do speak out they will loose there tax exempt status which " once again " the almighty buck rules the day ......

I don't want to derail Salts thread so I'm going to hang back a bit ........
 Quoting: GT500


I suggest you start your own thread about how my church has been lying to me. I'd be happy to join in.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Your wording I'm not sure of but I've covered the topic on my threads before , my threads usually go all over the place , as spoken just going to hang back a bit .........

Side note : we have all been lied to , every single one of us........
 Quoting: GT500

My church never lied to me, the bible doesn't lie, and God cannot lie. Only Man lies, and constantly. That is why we pray for the gift of discernment
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He who has an ear , let him hear..........
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Don't ever forget the power of praying and fasting , it is a great weapon to draw very near to God ............

I have never seen the Devil rise up and attack me like this past month , praying and fasting have been powerful weapons.........

The war is real , it's more real than anything we touch or feel ..........
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I'm just seeing this thread now. A lot of these individuals are obviously not preaching the word without some sort of agenda, money being one of them.

I watch in disbelief as thousands and thousands of people fork over money and sit like zombies and puppets listening to these snake oil salesmen.

My Aunt used to hand over almost all of her paycheck to Oral Roberts but wouldn't help my grandmother pay the bills (she was living with her.)

Oral promised a genuine key to heaven and she paid a lot of money for it. Some cheap key came in the mail, I wanted to slap some sense into her. At the time she was drinking heavily and being a general pain in the ass. I think in her mind God would look favorably on her if she gave that charlatan money and maybe forgive her for her sins. So sad she didn't believe God would forgive her if she just asked.
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I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
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you are a fraud.
you are a witness to demonic activity.
you are involved in a cult called the pentacostal church.
i implore you to not lead another soul into this mess.

you won't listen tho.
you get a lot of ego stroke from your position, i'm sure.
sorry to be so harsh, but, it's the truth.
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Seriously???

As your avatar promotes smoking...should I trust your sincerity?

I am a Holy Spirit filled believer in Jesus Christ.

I promote Jesus Christ and the Word as Truth...

I suggest that you search any of my replies...I have NEVER promoted anything else.

Peacehf
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smoking is not a salvation issue
if it were, half of the apostles and most of the saints would be condemned to hell
but you won't understand that because pentacostals still think that they can, at some point, achieve a sinless life and earn their own redemption.

i don't smoke, btw.
i used to. but not anymore.
the avatar has nothing to do with promoting smoking, lol. a what it does represent is probably over your head anyway.
but, pentacostals spend 99 percent of their time sitting in a judgment seat over other people. these are the ones who picture themselves on the edge of the pit rejoicing for those whom they believe deserve eternal damnation and hellfire, hoping they will burn, burn burn!!

you support glossolalia and satanic jibberish in the satanic pentacostal cult that teaches people heretic messages that keep them from communicating with God. the pentacostal tongue interpreter is nothing more than a sylvia browne medium for satan himself.

you may be Spirit-filled. but you are completely backslidden until you repent and get away from your cult practices.

i won't argue with you on this. it's pointless because you are completely brainwashed and love what you are doing. it makes you feel special and important.
pentacostal church is COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY.
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The ONLY important thing in MY life is Jesus Christ and the Gospel....if being bashed here on GLP is a way of 'feeling important' please enlighten me!

The pure gifts of the Spirit are NEVER revoked...pure is the key word here.So if they were given for edification and knowledge to the Apostles and early Church, who then revoked them?

I make NO money nor solicitation and would never promote the charlatans that do. But to call me demonic is demonic....



Having said that,

Peacehf

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Salt I want your thoughts and others regarding this man Neale Donald Walsh whom claims he talks to God in conversations with God -I watched afilm about him and have read 2 of his books -but am really wondering about this. Do you have any knowledge of him and his teachings?
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What is your opinion of John MacAuthur? I like him.

There is a passage somewhere in the bible that at the end of things, all gifts would pass away...but His words would never pass away. Something to that effect.

I believe until that time, all gifts are still around - including the gift of discernment. Especially in these times.

I believe in a literal hell...Jesus talked about it and discussed Lazarus in Abraham's bosom...that's why he came - to save us from that actual place.

I agree with all the false prophet assessments but do not agree with everything you say concerning other things.
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let me clarify something. i am not the go-to person for who's genuine and who's counterfeit. the Holy Spirit is who we go to to find out who the false teachers and prophets are. i would say that if you pray first and then put any teacher/preacher/prophet to the test and they either pass or fail the test, then you have your answer.
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let me clarify something. i am not the go-to person for who's genuine and who's counterfeit. the Holy Spirit is who we go to to find out who the false teachers and prophets are. i would say that if you pray first and then put any teacher/preacher/prophet to the test and they either pass or fail the test, then you have your answer.
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I understand I do believe in prayer but I was asking as I believe this is what this thread was about?
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let me clarify something. i am not the go-to person for who's genuine and who's counterfeit. the Holy Spirit is who we go to to find out who the false teachers and prophets are. i would say that if you pray first and then put any teacher/preacher/prophet to the test and they either pass or fail the test, then you have your answer.
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I understand I do believe in prayer but I was asking as I believe this is what this thread was about?
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i understand. put the one in question to the test. if you still have doubt, i am glad to take a look and share the discernment skills that God has given me this far. but more importantly, ask God direct to reveal anything false in these teachings. before any teaching with someone i'm not familiar with, i always lift it up to God first. even at the seminary I attend, before every reading assignment, i lift it up to God. there have been more than one textbooks that i felt were more than a little off. but, i am not educated enough yet to be able to discern for myself. turns out, God revealed everything I needed to see and even when I would click on a video, before one word was uttered, God would tell me "no!"

so...
with all that being said, there are many preachers/teachers out there that i am already familiar with as being false. this is what I share with all of you.
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I would like to know in how God tells you no? I mean is it intuition -a voice ? I have also wondered about this as well. Neale Donald walsh published books etc. claiming he can answer almost all questions regarding life -religion- almost everything as he has stated- he talks directly to God and God answers him-- I would pray and I would like to see if you or anyone else has or knows of this person's legit?? These are trying times and I am seeking good answers from you as you seem far more adept than me to have things maybe revealed to you?
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I would like to know in how God tells you no? I mean is it intuition -a voice ? I have also wondered about this as well. Neale Donald walsh published books etc. claiming he can answer almost all questions regarding life -religion- almost everything as he has stated- he talks directly to God and God answers him-- I would pray and I would like to see if you or anyone else has or knows of this person's legit?? These are trying times and I am seeking good answers from you as you seem far more adept than me to have things maybe revealed to you?
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well, i get a red flag right off the bat because he was showcased on Oprah. but let me go take a look and see what this dude is saying.
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I would like to know in how God tells you no? I mean is it intuition -a voice ? I have also wondered about this as well. Neale Donald walsh published books etc. claiming he can answer almost all questions regarding life -religion- almost everything as he has stated- he talks directly to God and God answers him-- I would pray and I would like to see if you or anyone else has or knows of this person's legit?? These are trying times and I am seeking good answers from you as you seem far more adept than me to have things maybe revealed to you?
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I would use three tests:

(1) To what extent is the person's teachings consistent with what the Gospel is?

(2) Does the person doing the teaching know what the Gospel is for?

(3) Does the person himself/herself live into the purpose of the Gospel?

As to Neale Donald Walsh, I read a couple of his books decades ago. I can't recall anything in them that would let me answer any of my questions with a yes.

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What is your opinion of John MacAuthur? I like him.

There is a passage somewhere in the bible that at the end of things, all gifts would pass away...but His words would never pass away. Something to that effect.

I believe until that time, all gifts are still around - including the gift of discernment. Especially in these times.

I believe in a literal hell...Jesus talked about it and discussed Lazarus in Abraham's bosom...that's why he came - to save us from that actual place.

I agree with all the false prophet assessments but do not agree with everything you say concerning other things.
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MacArthur is the real deal. He's not popular with anyone, has written books on tongues and other subjects that draw a lot of hate and criticism.
He believes that the gifts all ended at Pentecost, and I would agree for the most part. However, we can't limit God in any way.
He spends hours a day studying scripture thoroughly and he preaches the Word of God.
I haven't seen him on tv since Larry King left, so don't know what he's up to lately. Perhaps somebody that attends his church can tell us.
I have the large print MacArthur study bible, among others
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well, that didn't take long for him to fail the test miserably. he is a new age guy who based some of his teaching off Course in Miracles which is as demonic as can be.


from an article:
The key to understanding Neale Donald Walsch is to realize that he is part of the New Thought movement. His ideas are very similar to other writers in this movement such as Rhonda Byrne, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer and Terry Cole-Whittaker.

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Walsch says that either we keep religious fundamentalism or we have new spiritual revelations. (NR, p. 64) As religious fundamentalism is the root cause of our civilization’s crisis, he thinks we need a new spiritual revelation: his books, which he claims are channeled from God. He says that this new revelation in his books will expand the insights of religions; it will not reject their insights, but rejuvenate them. “The world must create a New Spirituality.

[link to www.spiritualcritiques.com]




this guy is bad news. badbadbad... he claims openly that he channels messages from God. wow...

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All the miracles and signs were to attest that God was with them.


Scripture was not written and made available until many years later.
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Even Paul lost the gift of healing.....and could not heal himself......but asked God 3 times to relieve the "thorn in the flesh."


God chose not to saying: "My grace is sufficient for you."
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I would like to know in how God tells you no? I mean is it intuition -a voice ? I have also wondered about this as well. Neale Donald walsh published books etc. claiming he can answer almost all questions regarding life -religion- almost everything as he has stated- he talks directly to God and God answers him-- I would pray and I would like to see if you or anyone else has or knows of this person's legit?? These are trying times and I am seeking good answers from you as you seem far more adept than me to have things maybe revealed to you?
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I would use three tests:

(1) To what extent is the person's teachings consistent with what the Gospel is?

(2) Does the person doing the teaching know what the Gospel is for?

(3) Does the person himself/herself live into the purpose of the Gospel?

As to Neale Donald Walsh, I read a couple of his books decades ago. I can't recall anything in them that would let me answer any of my questions with a yes.
 Quoting: Life and Love


I tend to agree with you I however am always seeking and it just amazes me how some can make these claims yet!
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this guy is so off it isn't even funny. anyone making us into God or equal with God is direct from satan himself

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my pups ate my sound cord, cant hear anything right now
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whoa, bummer
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well, that didn't take long for him to fail the test miserably. he is a new age guy who based some of his teaching off Course in Miracles which is as demonic as can be.


from an article:
The key to understanding Neale Donald Walsch is to realize that he is part of the New Thought movement. His ideas are very similar to other writers in this movement such as Rhonda Byrne, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer and Terry Cole-Whittaker.

snip
Walsch says that either we keep religious fundamentalism or we have new spiritual revelations. (NR, p. 64) As religious fundamentalism is the root cause of our civilization’s crisis, he thinks we need a new spiritual revelation: his books, which he claims are channeled from God. He says that this new revelation in his books will expand the insights of religions; it will not reject their insights, but rejuvenate them. “The world must create a New Spirituality.

[link to www.spiritualcritiques.com]




this guy is bad news. badbadbad... he claims openly that he channels messages from God. wow...

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Thank you much SALT this is what I was talking about the channeling from God part like wow-ya know?? Anyways you helped me with this one!
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my pups ate my sound cord, cant hear anything right now
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lol, good thing I like them pups

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