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Counterfeit Christianity. Christian TV Evangelists who have joined Illuminati ranks Then & Now. Look close and pay attention.

 
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 Quoting: Salt


I heard he was a 33rd degree mason but who knows .......

I always loved when he did the alter call and the choir would sing

" just as I am " hf
 Quoting: GT500


yeah...
i remember BG being a really good guy when i was growing up
then stuff changed somewhere along the line
probably when the enormous wealth set it
the last video i posted states that BG had full intention of creating a false one-world unified church (world council of churches) from the very beginning and that he fell into full apostacy around 1970...
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yes. and your point is?
 Quoting: Salt


I am a member of an Intercessory group with all the Gifts manifesting, as well as interpretation of the Language of the Holy Spirit as it gives utterance.....

So I am a witness....
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


you are a fraud.
you are a witness to demonic activity.
you are involved in a cult called the pentacostal church.
i implore you to not lead another soul into this mess.

you won't listen tho.
you get a lot of ego stroke from your position, i'm sure.
sorry to be so harsh, but, it's the truth.
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 Quoting: bigD111


make a point or i will throw the ban hammer down
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 Quoting: Salt


I heard he was a 33rd degree mason but who knows .......

I always loved when he did the alter call and the choir would sing

" just as I am " hf
 Quoting: GT500


yeah...
i remember BG being a really good guy when i was growing up
then stuff changed somewhere along the line
probably when the enormous wealth set it
the last video i posted states that BG had full intention of creating a false one-world unified church (world council of churches) from the very beginning and that he fell into full apostacy around 1970...
 Quoting: Salt


Agreed , the love of money is always the beginning of the end of a pure heart " myself included " ....

Man God has humbled me big time and I am so glad , thank you Salt for this thread and real look into true reality .....
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
 Quoting: Salt


I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
 Quoting: bigD111


i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
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it is NOT an unknown language
it might be an unknown piece of information
about an unknown situation
but it is NEVER an unknown language
 Quoting: Salt


but you have no way of knowing that. Your relationship with God may not be similar to some other one's.
Paul himself referred to tongues of angels, and there is no reason to think that Heaven is limited to the language of the earth.
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


Totally true, my Friend, the Spirit and the Words of God/language are ALIVE and eternal and irrevocable...the language of God is working in the world and universe...we would be presumptuous to think that His language would be earthly and limited...

Therefore the need for interpretation....

Peacehf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


yes, but as we see from the verse in Romans, we don't always know what or how, to pray effectively and so the HS, in us, takes over. Again, purely private, no need for any interpreters
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In a Church...(a small gathering of true believers is also a Church) the Holy Spirit can interpret the Tongues for the benefit of all gathered together...ultimately,it is all up to the Holy Spirit.

We are told to pray for the gift of interpretation.

Each circumstance is unique, but it does not negate the interpretation if one is given....
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I don't think anything I came up with would matter, so I am going to leave it at that.
 Quoting: bigD111


nope, not fair.
you are trying to tell me you are obeying God as His servant
to deny scriptures to make your point would be irresponsible and selfish.

i want to see scriptures that support your point
 Quoting: Salt

Hey, you are twisting my words once again. Not gonna play that game, you are good at it.
 Quoting: bigD111


you won't find any scripture that says servants of God need to speak unknown languages/syllables in our prayers. there aren't any. there is not one jot or tittle within scripture that states that the Holy Spirit gives us unknown syllables in our prayers to speak within our private prayers or prayers over others.


so, really, don't bother because there are none.
i'm not playing a game. i'm trying to save you from dancing with devils another day or teaching others to do the same.

i do NOT play games when it comes to this kind of stuff
never. God holds us all accountable.
 Quoting: Salt


IN JESUS'OWN WORDS....


Mark 16:17

King James Version (KJV)


17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
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IN JESUS'OWN WORDS....


Mark 16:17

King James Version (KJV)


17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


this was already discussed quite a bit and across several pages here.

the new tongues mentioned are real human known languages for the purpose of proving Christ's resurrection to the Jews, for spreading and teaching the gospel.

i refuse to backtrack.
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IN JESUS'OWN WORDS....


Mark 16:17

King James Version (KJV)


17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


this was already discussed quite a bit and across several pages here.

the new tongues mentioned are real human known languages for the purpose of proving Christ's resurrection to the Jews, for spreading and teaching the gospel.
i refuse to backtrack.
 Quoting: Salt


The Gospel is also furthered when an unbeliever is present at a gathering when a Tongue is given with a personal interpretation to confirm and convince someone of the reality of God working through the Holy Spirit...

I have seen this MANY times and am still in awe of the TRUTHS that can bring someone to the Lord....

He works through all types of scenarios...HE IS LIMITLESShf

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Salt I really like your style and wisdom --I am seriously about o bring my band together again and form a tremendous performance- I am against satan and more- I wish I could talk directlya
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I or can I reveal myself????f I am not scared at all when I can sing AMAZING GRACce and HOW GREAT THOU ART like Elvis and BJ Thomas please listen!
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Some P churches teach that you are not a Christian until you speak in tongues.

This is a huge error and in conflict with Scripture.


It is the duty of Satan to divide the body into many subgroups........and trip them up as much as possible. He is the master of half-truths.
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Some P churches teach that you are not a Christian until you speak in tongues.

This is a huge error and in conflict with Scripture.


It is the duty of Satan to divide the body into many subgroups........and trip them up as much as possible. He is the master of half-truths.
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as above, so below.
it's much more than a reflection on the pond.
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After reading through the thread - I am discouraged to see those who profess love for Christ - battling it out over "speaking in tongues"

Goodness! Does it not strike you that these kind of arguments are (yet another) battering ram the enemy uses to divide us?

I have been around the Charismatic "movement" as well as the more "fundamental" churches since the 80's - I can tell you that this battle has been dividing the body ever since. I can tell you that this is an issue that has the power to get sincere believers really angry with one another.

We can't afford to be divided. We need to be united - in order to pray. Our enemy has us all in his sights - and he ain't playin - according to Revelation 13:7

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Sobering.

It is arguments such as these that WILL wear us down - as prophesied in Daniel 7:25

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High . . .

I for one, am getting worn out. I am sickened by what I see going on in the world, and sickened even more by what I see in the body.

The love of many HAS INDEED grown cold . . .

Those of us that are "awake" - would be wise to steer clear from such senseless arguments.

We love one another - by respecting one another. We will never agree on ALL things - except that we are sinners, saved by Grace through the completed work of Christ on the cross - not a work of our own.

The ONLY way will can overcome IS TO STAND TOGETHER - like Jesus taught us in

John 13:34

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

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IN JESUS'OWN WORDS....


Mark 16:17

King James Version (KJV)


17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


this was already discussed quite a bit and across several pages here.

the new tongues mentioned are real human known languages for the purpose of proving Christ's resurrection to the Jews, for spreading and teaching the gospel.
i refuse to backtrack.
 Quoting: Salt


The Gospel is also furthered when an unbeliever is present at a gathering when a Tongue is given with a personal interpretation to confirm and convince someone of the reality of God working through the Holy Spirit...

I have seen this MANY times and am still in awe of the TRUTHS that can bring someone to the Lord....

He works through all types of scenarios...HE IS LIMITLESShf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


no.
you don't get it and you never will.
what you are describing is not tongues and interpretation.
what you describe is channelling and sylvia browne style medium work psychic network.
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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
 Quoting: GT500


the problem is, is this is what is taught in the counterfeit church. these people really believe that they need to accept this or they will burn in hell. they really can't grasp the divine simplicity of the sufficiency of God's word and of God to accomplish whatever it is He wants. they really think they have to practice these mumbo jumbo heebee jeebee things without any certainty or order to have God move in their lives.

When we get back to the simplicity and the sufficiency of what was already completed, we hear from God every minute of every day and there is no question, uncertainty, or hysteria involved.
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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
 Quoting: GT500


the problem is, is this is what is taught in the counterfeit church. these people really believe that they need to accept this or they will burn in hell. they really can't grasp the divine simplicity of the sufficiency of God's word and of God to accomplish whatever it is He wants. they really think they have to practice these mumbo jumbo heebee jeebee things without any certainty or order to have God move in their lives.

When we get back to the simplicity and the sufficiency of what was already completed, we hear from God every minute of every day and there is no question, uncertainty, or hysteria involved.
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I completely agree Salt , it really is that simple hf
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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
 Quoting: GT500


the problem is, is this is what is taught in the counterfeit church. these people really believe that they need to accept this or they will burn in hell. they really can't grasp the divine simplicity of the sufficiency of God's word and of God to accomplish whatever it is He wants. they really think they have to practice these mumbo jumbo heebee jeebee things without any certainty or order to have God move in their lives.

When we get back to the simplicity and the sufficiency of what was already completed, we hear from God every minute of every day and there is no question, uncertainty, or hysteria involved.
 Quoting: Salt


I completely agree Salt , it really is that simple hf
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Agreed, too. hf
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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
 Quoting: GT500


the problem is, is this is what is taught in the counterfeit church. these people really believe that they need to accept this or they will burn in hell. they really can't grasp the divine simplicity of the sufficiency of God's word and of God to accomplish whatever it is He wants. they really think they have to practice these mumbo jumbo heebee jeebee things without any certainty or order to have God move in their lives.

When we get back to the simplicity and the sufficiency of what was already completed, we hear from God every minute of every day and there is no question, uncertainty, or hysteria involved.
 Quoting: Salt


Dear Sister,

I totally understand that satan has attempted to counterfeit and marginalize the TRUE gifts of the Holy Spirit. The Word warns of the anti-Christ spirit that is already working in the world today. I agree that it is prevalent in many aspects of the modern organized Church.

However, there is a remnant .....I would ask that we not look upon the Gifts as something passé or powerless. That would be denying the power of Jesus Christ.

Speaking in tongues does NOT a believer make....it is one of the many gifts given. That is the discretion of the Holy Spirit. This happened to me when I prayed to be Baptized in the Holy Spirit. This was my personal experience...no gimmicks or pride...this is merely how it manifested for me.

I can never deny the power of the Holy Spirit...in ANY form. However if love is absent, it all means nothing.

We are ALL the Body of Christ...but, He alone is the head.

There is so much more to unite than to divide. I hope this helps to explain my circumstance and my reality.

Most importantly, we are urged to look at the 'fruits' of the believer....but only God can look upon our hearts.

I have witnessed the awesome power of Christ and eagerly await His coming...

As I know we all do, thank you for the opportunity to speak my mind.....

God Bless Youhf
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I heard he was a 33rd degree mason but who knows .......

I always loved when he did the alter call and the choir would sing

" just as I am " hf
 Quoting: GT500


yeah...
i remember BG being a really good guy when i was growing up
then stuff changed somewhere along the line
probably when the enormous wealth set it
the last video i posted states that BG had full intention of creating a false one-world unified church (world council of churches) from the very beginning and that he fell into full apostacy around 1970...
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From what I've researched, and as Salt mentions here, he is pulling the one world religion idea together... books I've read in the past show his support of the Pope and Catholicism.

I've witnessed him saying, in his own words, that Muslims will make it to Heaven. As Christians we know that unless a person accepts Jesus Christ that is not the case.

For those who are aware of Fritz Springmeier and his research, it's people like this, that the Illuminati uses

[link to www.whale.to]

[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]
TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION..

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We are living in a time when the simple truth just isn't good enough for people .........

Watch and pray , the great falling away approaches .........

The wise are in morning but the fool parties on........
 Quoting: GT500


the problem is, is this is what is taught in the counterfeit church. these people really believe that they need to accept this or they will burn in hell. they really can't grasp the divine simplicity of the sufficiency of God's word and of God to accomplish whatever it is He wants. they really think they have to practice these mumbo jumbo heebee jeebee things without any certainty or order to have God move in their lives.

When we get back to the simplicity and the sufficiency of what was already completed, we hear from God every minute of every day and there is no question, uncertainty, or hysteria involved.
 Quoting: Salt


It's funny how so many here have different backgrounds and beliefs, and we could all argue about the little things for thousands of pages. But when you start getting back to the basics and the simpleness of letting God be God, that's where you start seeing people agree and come back together. That has to be where the future of the 'final awakening' lies.

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Since the path is thin and I/we cannot trust what a church says, so, what are the guidepost?
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Since the path is thin and I/we cannot trust what a church says, so, what are the guidepost?
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Please don't throw out the baby with the bath water!

There are many fine churches, and I am confident that God will lead you to the one He wants you to associate with.

But I would stay away from media evangelists, YouTube channel people, and most religious internet sites. There are also a number of churches that promote excitement and arousal so that people get hooked on church and never quite figure out how to follow Jesus.
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The word of God and the Holy Spirit , Christ defeated Satan in the desert being tempted for 40 days and 40 nights with the word of God.......

We just have to believe........

Our very own personal relationship with God is the realest thing going in our lives ........we overcome by the blood of the lamb and by the " power " of our testimony .....
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Please don't throw out the baby with the bath water!

There are many fine churches, and I am confident that God will lead you to the one He wants you to associate with.

But I would stay away from media evangelists, YouTube channel people, and most religious internet sites. There are also a number of churches that promote excitement and arousal so that people get hooked on church and never quite figure out how to follow Jesus.
 Quoting: Life and Love



An analogy….

You take a group of people to a shooting range, some of whom have never handled a gun before. You show them the target, then blindfold them. You then spin them around in a circle and tell them to shoot the target. You haven't helped them at all, but have seriously endangered everyone around you. Even if you are verbally describing where the target is, you are still hindering their success (at best).

The church (as a historical entity) has blindfolded the population of the world. They describe what the target is, but you must have their direction and guidance to hit it. They have endangered the population as a whole much worse than if they weren't there at all. Sin, by definition, is a shooting term. It means to miss the target. The target is the Word of God. How can you expect people to not sin if they have blindfolds on and are unable to see a target? How can the church expect people to understand Scriptures if they spoon feed them everything through your own rules and doctrines?

You have all you need in front of you in Scriptures. Now take off the blindfold and understand it.


P.S. Not every church is like this, but the "religion of church," and adherence to doctrines of men embodies this behavior.

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Please don't throw out the baby with the bath water!

There are many fine churches, and I am confident that God will lead you to the one He wants you to associate with.

But I would stay away from media evangelists, YouTube channel people, and most religious internet sites. There are also a number of churches that promote excitement and arousal so that people get hooked on church and never quite figure out how to follow Jesus.
 Quoting: Life and Love



An analogy….

You take a group of people to a shooting range, some of whom have never handled a gun before. You show them the target, then blindfold them. You then spin them around in a circle and tell them to shoot the target. You haven't helped them at all, but have seriously endangered everyone around you. Even if you are verbally describing where the target is, you are still hindering their success (at best).

The church (as a historical entity) has blindfolded the population of the world. They describe what the target is, but you must have their direction and guidance to hit it. They have endangered the population as a whole much worse than if they weren't there at all. Sin, by definition, is a shooting term. It means to miss the target. The target is the Word of God. How can you expect people to not sin if they have blindfolds on and are unable to see a target? How can the church expect people to understand Scriptures if they spoon feed them everything through your own rules and doctrines?

You have all you need in front of you in Scriptures. Now take off the blindfold and understand it.


P.S. Not every church is like this, but the "religion of church," and adherence to doctrines of men embodies this behavior.
 Quoting: Zedakah


^^THIS^^ is frequently true for the institution of the church.

But the church that Jesus is building isn't an institution but the body of Christ. When we get our relationship with Jesus going, everything else begins to fall into place. But with out that relational component, nothing falls into place.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Re: Counterfeit Christianity. Christian TV Evangelists who have joined Illuminati ranks Then & Now. Look close and pay attention.
After reading through the thread - I am discouraged to see those who profess love for Christ - battling it out over "speaking in tongues"

Goodness! Does it not strike you that these kind of arguments are (yet another) battering ram the enemy uses to divide us?

I have been around the Charismatic "movement" as well as the more "fundamental" churches since the 80's - I can tell you that this battle has been dividing the body ever since. I can tell you that this is an issue that has the power to get sincere believers really angry with one another.

We can't afford to be divided. We need to be united - in order to pray. Our enemy has us all in his sights - and he ain't playin - according to Revelation 13:7

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Sobering.

It is arguments such as these that WILL wear us down - as prophesied in Daniel 7:25

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High . . .

I for one, am getting worn out. I am sickened by what I see going on in the world, and sickened even more by what I see in the body.

The love of many HAS INDEED grown cold . . .

Those of us that are "awake" - would be wise to steer clear from such senseless arguments.

We love one another - by respecting one another. We will never agree on ALL things - except that we are sinners, saved by Grace through the completed work of Christ on the cross - not a work of our own.

The ONLY way will can overcome IS TO STAND TOGETHER - like Jesus taught us in

John 13:34

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46820730

we are called to test the spirits, and as in the Toronto Blessing, with all the crying, dog barking, baaaing like goats, well that was not the Spirit of God, and Christians are to have nothing to do with such.
These types of movements hurt yours, personally I avoid all of it
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Sorry I had some replies that got thrown together as a result of talking on the phone and trying to respond and type -I didn't get to edit -itcame out haphazardly at best lol! still enoying this thread but got all into talking about ideas and music.

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