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I took my mom to a similar church that you have described years ago. She said she heard the preacher/visiting speaker say "since I've been in this business.....". She picked right up on that.
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We really must take care in these last days. If no discernment, we must pray for it.
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Thread: Tithing 10% of your income/earned money to the church is NOT scriptural.
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Joel Osteen was at a nearby mall a few years ago. There was some fallout after the events in the parking lot as someone was coming up to Joel to thank him one last time. His security team grabbed the person and beat him up before he could reach Joel. The security escort also nearly ran over another bystander on the way out.
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i have this image of joel osteen in my mind...
his saccharin sweet weasley face is a mask over top of a little red reptilian, scaly-assed imp from hell.
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the prosperity theme has intercepted many.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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I am not sure why so many fall into their pockets. I take one look at them and can see they are fake. They try to build worldly treasures behind that mask. I walked away from all that crap after i was invited to the house of a preacher from the church i attended. I was stunned when his house was on one of the most expensive streets in London. So when he started talking about giving my possessions to the neady I walked out and never went back. Ironic that i was walking around with holes in my shoes because i gave everything already and he living in a house with a gold plated toilet.
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but in your heart you know the difference. Take comfort in that.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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A friend of mine is a Kenneth Copeland junkie. She buys every book, watches the show religiously. You can't convince her that he's a shyster, and that what he teaches is wrong. She just won't let go of her worship of this man.

I mean, she reads her Bible...she should know better.

It makes me so sad for her.
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Charles Stanley is the only one I believe is a true Christian. He is a humble man, with a battered past and speaks through the spirit of love. He is one of my top 5 preachers. He always seems to say just what God wants me to hear...

The rest, as far as I am concerned, are total scumbag wolf's in sheep clothing...
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Charles Stanley is the only one I believe is a true Christian. He is a humble man, with a battered past and speaks through the spirit of love. He is one of my top 5 preachers. He always seems to say just what God wants me to hear...

The rest, as far as I am concerned, are total scumbag wolf's in sheep clothing...
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charles stanley is cool
excellent teacher and humble
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"So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver." (2 Cor 9: 7)


Tithing is an obligation. You are therefore compelled to give a certain amount each month. This is not in line with the verse above.

When a person gives themselves to Christ and is born again of the Spirit......they immediately go from being under the law to being under grace. We are warned not to return to the law.


Many preachers have plucked tithing out of the Old Testament to help pay the bills. By doing so.....they are forcing their followers to return to being under the law with respect to their giving. And the law can arouse sin (Romans 7: 5-6)


The books in the Old Testament that include tithing are addressed to Israel in the opening sections.


The law of tithing had many specific things which Israel had to adhere to. This included bring the firstfruits of crops, animals, etc......unblemished. Dirty money was never used for tithing by Israel.
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It's Laodicea-town, Jake...


Can YOU, forum reader, forum moderator/OP, HEAR and SEE The Gospel with your heart? Or is your heart "waxed gross" as Jesus Witnesses most are in Matt 13:15???

Blocked from Hearing and Seeing?

Got enough self-honesty that you can even be objective?


Stop, Look, and Listen!



These are The Final Moments. Might want to revisit Matthew 24 and See Jesus' Witness there; The Olivette Discourse. HIS Witness to HIS Disciples who ask, "What will be the signs of THY coming?"


Just as in the days of Noe....



All this "warrior" stuff. It sounds good and fine, like real WWJD stuff; yet, If you were Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, you would KNOW that Jesus Won HIS Father's Victory on calvary.

Think "warrioring" is going to mitigate the great tribulation?
It won't.
According to Christ Jesus, you are deceived and in delusion... Why? Because you ain't Born-Again (per Ezekiel 36:26-27), you haven't "elected/chosen" to surrender self Unto The Father. More to the point: Unless you ARE Born-Again, and thereby Enabled To Know and DO The Father's Will; Jesus Doesn't Know you... Matt 7:21-23


Only "the very elect" cannot be deceived, Witnesses Jesus. HE Says, all will be deceived in The Final moments even (were it possible), The Very Elect... Yet, Because They Abide In & With Christ and The Father, and The Holy Spirit Dwells In their hearts It Is NOT Possible to deceive a Born-Again.


The deal is: If you Love Christ Jesus and KNOW WHO HE IS, The Father Has Called your heart; HE Wants You To Come Unto HIM and Live In Fellowship and Accord.

YOU Have NOT Answered...


The Victory Has Been Won.
Surrender self Unto The Father and become A Partaker!



All this "warrioring" stuff smacks of self. It smacks of WWJD.

Jesus Does HIS Father's Will.
Were you Born-Again, you would also Do HIS Father's Will...
satan has lost the battle, but he can still do all he can to deny those who might Hear and See To God.

YOU Have To LOSE Your Life, (Unto The Father), To Gain Life With, In, and Through HIM!

"Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again!"
John 3:7 The only Directive Must Jesus Gives in all The Gospel...

From Ezekiel 36: The concise Witness of what The Born-Again Life is:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

From Matthew ch 7:
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
***but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.***
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Not Born-Again per Ezekiel 36:26-27?
Then you remain "a worker of iniquity", following self and self-will; not a part of God's Will...


It's Laodicea Jake...
Only The Very Elect are not lost in delusion...
ONLY God Can Deliver you from the carnal-heart that is the author of your delusion and deception.

You've chosen never to surrender Unto The Father, therefore you remain carnal, stony-hearted and are Not KNOWN BY HIM...


If you Love Christ and can Trust The Father Completely with your life; it is time to make your surrender...

Maranatha!!!
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Bastards!
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What a great bunch of information. THANK YOU Salt for posting these videos.

I'm 72 years of age, and I was SAVED at age 26. I have seen so very much in the CHURCHES that make my spirit, heart, and mind cringe. God Almighty delivered out of the Roman Catholic Church at age 26, and I have been in many different chuches since then. I'm presently a Born Again Holy Spirit Filled Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ my SAVIOR.

I've been a researcher and published author of two books, all of which I have given away to people at no cost. When Paul Crouch died a few days ago I went on an Internet search to see the financial status of TBN and the many Ministers who speak on TBN. WOW******

I'm so glad that I'm NOT the JUDGE . . only God is the JUDGE. But I agree with you that there is something very wrong with the MODERN DAY churches.

However, as we know the LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS WORD WILL NEVER CHANGE. Keep God's Word in your heart and mind everyone, as a great battle is coming when Satan will be allowed to attack. WE are the ARMY OF GOD and we will defend Gods TRUTH. The lies and the pretence will be exposed.

Glory to God

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Charles Stanley is the only one I believe is a true Christian. He is a humble man, with a battered past and speaks through the spirit of love. He is one of my top 5 preachers. He always seems to say just what God wants me to hear...

The rest, as far as I am concerned, are total scumbag wolf's in sheep clothing...
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Is he a 501(c)3 charitable(corporate) organization?
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It's Laodicea-town, Jake...


Can YOU, forum reader, forum moderator/OP, HEAR and SEE The Gospel with your heart? Or is your heart "waxed gross" as Jesus Witnesses most are in Matt 13:15???

Blocked from Hearing and Seeing?

Got enough self-honesty that you can even be objective?


Stop, Look, and Listen!



These are The Final Moments. Might want to revisit Matthew 24 and See Jesus' Witness there; The Olivette Discourse. HIS Witness to HIS Disciples who ask, "What will be the signs of THY coming?"


Just as in the days of Noe....



All this "warrior" stuff. It sounds good and fine, like real WWJD stuff; yet, If you were Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, you would KNOW that Jesus Won HIS Father's Victory on calvary.

Think "warrioring" is going to mitigate the great tribulation?
It won't.
According to Christ Jesus, you are deceived and in delusion... Why? Because you ain't Born-Again (per Ezekiel 36:26-27), you haven't "elected/chosen" to surrender self Unto The Father. More to the point: Unless you ARE Born-Again, and thereby Enabled To Know and DO The Father's Will; Jesus Doesn't Know you... Matt 7:21-23


Only "the very elect" cannot be deceived, Witnesses Jesus. HE Says, all will be deceived in The Final moments even (were it possible), The Very Elect... Yet, Because They Abide In & With Christ and The Father, and The Holy Spirit Dwells In their hearts It Is NOT Possible to deceive a Born-Again.


The deal is: If you Love Christ Jesus and KNOW WHO HE IS, The Father Has Called your heart; HE Wants You To Come Unto HIM and Live In Fellowship and Accord.

YOU Have NOT Answered...


The Victory Has Been Won.
Surrender self Unto The Father and become A Partaker!



All this "warrioring" stuff smacks of self. It smacks of WWJD.

Jesus Does HIS Father's Will.
Were you Born-Again, you would also Do HIS Father's Will...
satan has lost the battle, but he can still do all he can to deny those who might Hear and See To God.

YOU Have To LOSE Your Life, (Unto The Father), To Gain Life With, In, and Through HIM!

"Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again!"
John 3:7 The only Directive Must Jesus Gives in all The Gospel...

From Ezekiel 36: The concise Witness of what The Born-Again Life is:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

From Matthew ch 7:
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
***but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.***
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Not Born-Again per Ezekiel 36:26-27?
Then you remain "a worker of iniquity", following self and self-will; not a part of God's Will...


It's Laodicea Jake...
Only The Very Elect are not lost in delusion...
ONLY God Can Deliver you from the carnal-heart that is the author of your delusion and deception.

You've chosen never to surrender Unto The Father, therefore you remain carnal, stony-hearted and are Not KNOWN BY HIM...


If you Love Christ and can Trust The Father Completely with your life; it is time to make your surrender...

Maranatha!!!
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Do you observe the Saturday Sabbath, or are you one of the many that twist scripture in order to justify tradition that follows the RC Church?
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Do not be confused...

Yes, all your grievances are valid.
Martin Luther had 98 grievances against the organized religious system of his day, the one he was a priest/participant in.

Luther would have waived 97 of this Theses/Grievances, had the church only acknowledged that: "God Wants To Know us Directly and Personally and have us Live In Relationship With HIM". But had rome, the rcc of 1600 admitted that, they would have been out of power and their scheme of fraud and deception halted.

not what satan intended to allow; and satan does rule over earth, for a short while longer...



All that matters in the course of your life, if you Love God, and KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS, is Coming Unto The Father.

Have to Come Unto The Father to become an OverComer, to Be Delivered from your carnal/stony heart and Given A New Heart Of Father's Flesh...

Can't Trust God Fully and Completely with every aspect of your life? Then you will be on your own...



Love God enough to take action? To tell HIM you Love HIM and Trust HIM Fully and that you Know Jesus is your Saviour and Redeemer. Can you Admit and repent of your sins? Then take action; Claim your share of Father's Infinite Grace & Mercy... Give HIM your life, all of it; good & bad, seeking only to do and live in HIS Will. Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit To Guide you.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest...
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Do not be confused...

Yes, all your grievances are valid.
Martin Luther had 98 grievances against the organized religious system of his day, the one he was a priest/participant in.

Luther would have waived 97 of this Theses/Grievances, had the church only acknowledged that: "God Wants To Know us Directly and Personally and have us Live In Relationship With HIM". But had rome, the rcc of 1600 admitted that, they would have been out of power and their scheme of fraud and deception halted.

not what satan intended to allow; and satan does rule over earth, for a short while longer...



All that matters in the course of your life, if you Love God, and KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS, is Coming Unto The Father.

Have to Come Unto The Father to become an OverComer, to Be Delivered from your carnal/stony heart and Given A New Heart Of Father's Flesh...

Can't Trust God Fully and Completely with every aspect of your life? Then you will be on your own...



Love God enough to take action? To tell HIM you Love HIM and Trust HIM Fully and that you Know Jesus is your Saviour and Redeemer. Can you Admit and repent of your sins? Then take action; Claim your share of Father's Infinite Grace & Mercy... Give HIM your life, all of it; good & bad, seeking only to do and live in HIS Will. Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit To Guide you.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest...
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Lester..........re. Ezek 36: 26-27


Back up to verse 21........this passage is addressed to Israel.


In fact Chapters 34----Chapters 39 are for Israel. They should be read together.

At the very beginning of these six chapters:

"Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel......




When the 70 weeks of years are complete......the punishment for Israel will be over.......and God will no longer hide his face from Israel.


He will then put His Spirit inside the remnant of Israel who have survived the final seven years.


And David will be prince over Israel in Jerusalem (37: 24)......and Christ King of the world.......and beginning His 1,000 year reign.


People can be indwelt by the Holy Spirit right now.....when the put their complete faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.


For Israel......God will just flat out put His Spirit inside Israel at the end of Daniel's 70th week......pure grace......to defend His name and promise to Abraham... for his act of faith and obedience (Gen 22).
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Do you observe the Saturday Sabbath, or are you one of the many that twist scripture in order to justify tradition that follows the RC Church?
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Were you Abiding With God, you would KNOW who I am...

Nothing I have ever written "follows tradition of the rcc"...

Which I know and understand because I was a catholic, raised and educated, when I made my surrender. I was never Given any Witness to return to the rcc, so never did.


If my witness strikes a chord in your heart... If you feel there must be more, a Way to get Closer To God, then seek The Father in prayer and Ask HIM...

All the concerns of the carnal-hearted Christian are born out of fear and self-will. When Father Replaces your heart of stone with A New Heart Of HIS Flesh, your life will change and you will no longer know any fear.

Religion is all about man defining who and what he is willing to allow God to be...

When you Come Unto The Father, you break through all that and leave the bullshit of carnality behind.

Can you Trust HIM Fully with every aspect of your life?

I am not asking you to trust me; don't care if you do...
But can you Trust God Fully and Completely?

If so, NOW is the time to tell HIM and give HIM Control and Dominion over your life!

If you can't do that, then you will remain mired in-self and confused; on your own... Not a good place to be, even were the great tribulation not unfolding at breakneck pace.


The purpose of your life, if you Love Christ and KNOW WHO HE IS, is to Come Unto The Father and Abide In-HIM.

Can you subjugate your will to HIS, that is the lynchpin, the decision that can open your heart to everything that is HIM.

Maranatha!!!
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Charles Stanley is the only one I believe is a true Christian. He is a humble man, with a battered past and speaks through the spirit of love. He is one of my top 5 preachers. He always seems to say just what God wants me to hear...

The rest, as far as I am concerned, are total scumbag wolf's in sheep clothing...
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charles stanley is cool
excellent teacher and humble
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what do you think about Andrew Wommack.....been listening to him lately....seems legit, but it's really hard to tell these days.
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hey Lester
thanks for the bumps
but stop hijacking my thread
seriously
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Charles Stanley is the only one I believe is a true Christian. He is a humble man, with a battered past and speaks through the spirit of love. He is one of my top 5 preachers. He always seems to say just what God wants me to hear...

The rest, as far as I am concerned, are total scumbag wolf's in sheep clothing...
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charles stanley is cool
excellent teacher and humble
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what do you think about Andrew Wommack.....been listening to him lately....seems legit, but it's really hard to tell these days.
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put him to the test

is he ridiculously wealthy?
does he twist and modify scripture?
does he preach the prosperity message?
does he put humans above God?
does he ask for money in return for blessings?
is he a pentacostal or charismatic teacher?

etc etc etc
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Lester..........re. Ezek 36: 26-27


Back up to verse 21........this passage is addressed to Israel.


In fact Chapters 34----Chapters 39 are for Israel. They should be read together.

At the very beginning of these six chapters:

"Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel......




When the 70 weeks of years are complete......the punishment for Israel will be over.......and God will no longer hide his face from Israel.


He will then put His Spirit inside the remnant of Israel who have survived the final seven years.


And David will be prince over Israel in Jerusalem (37: 24)......and Christ King of the world.......and beginning His 1,000 year reign.


People can be indwelt by the Holy Spirit right now.....when the put their complete faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.


For Israel......God will just flat out put His Spirit inside Israel at the end of Daniel's 70th week......pure grace......to defend His name and promise to Abraham... for his act of faith and obedience (Gen 22).
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The current state of "Israel" is an abomination to God. It has fulfilled prophesy, but means nothing else. Oh, God's Two Witnesses will be killed on a street there. Undoubtedly by some staunch traditionalist jews...

Such is the denial and spurning that Israel has always shown God.


Yes, what I cite is part of A Witness God Gave those HE Would Have Had As HIS People... Yet, Israel spurned HIM and would not allow HIS Regeneration.

The Holy Spirit LED me to Ezekiel 36:26-27 when I was challenged by a Hebrews 12 Bastard on this forum over 9yrs ago to "show me that there is any reference to Born-Again in the Old Testament".

26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

The above Witnesses what I have Seen and Known since giving my life to The Father.


Christianity IS God's Banner To The World.

Don't tell me about Israel being HIS People. When rabbinical judaism emerged over 200 yrs after Christ, the last vestiges of Israel's submission to God were discarded by the jewish people.


Believe what you want, rabbi; I have no witness for you.

My witness is for Christians who Love and KNOW Christ Jesus To BE God The SON. The Strait Gate is closed. Your stubborn carnality has caused you to tarry too long and fail to manifest your heart Unto The Father...
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If I were you salt, I would not make my personal ministry to bash other christians. You see through the glass darkly as does everyone. The revelation, the revealing has begun for those who are watching. Your videos are for casting stones at people whom you are supposed to care for. Shame on you.
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144,000 of Israel will be preserved.....and that is clear in Revelations.


Not for anything good about Israel (Ezek Chps 34---39).......but because of the promise that God gave to Abraham for his act of faith and obedience (Gen 22).


God is Holy......and will defend His Holy name.....and His promise to Abraham.


He will not allow satan to completely wipe out Israel.
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Gonna "rate" the personalities?
Do you understand doing so confirms your own alienation from The Father?

What do these others matter?
Why make pretense that you are Of-God when so obviously you are confused and gravitating toward error?


Here is St. John's Witness from first epistle ch 2:

18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19. They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:
but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.



20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.


27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Born-Again? Then "you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things".

"...the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."


Trust God Fully,
Give HIM your life,
Be Brought Into HIS Accord

This is what matters.

You're either HIS, or you're not.
Can't or won't understand?

Fear not! The Holy Spirit Gave me to Know that "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart, even if only as a child, will not be lost or condemned".
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If I were you salt, I would not make my personal ministry to bash other christians. You see through the glass darkly as does everyone. The revelation, the revealing has begun for those who are watching. Your videos are for casting stones at people whom you are supposed to care for. Shame on you.
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those people aren't christians
they are luciferians posing as christians to condemn your soul

James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins
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Gonna "rate" the personalities?
Do you understand doing so confirms your own alienation from The Father?

What do these others matter?
Why make pretense that you are Of-God when so obviously you are confused and gravitating toward error?


Here is St. John's Witness from first epistle ch 2:

18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19. They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:
but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.



20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.


27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Born-Again? Then "you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things".

"...the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."


Trust God Fully,
Give HIM your life,
Be Brought Into HIS Accord

This is what matters.

You're either HIS, or you're not.
Can't or won't understand?

Fear not! The Holy Spirit Gave me to Know that "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart, even if only as a child, will not be lost or condemned".
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do i have to throw the ban hammer
get on topic or get out
its as simple as that
Life and Love

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Perfectly predicted in the Olivet Discourse: "...and they shall deceive the many." (not the few)
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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What a great bunch of information. THANK YOU Salt for posting these videos.

I'm 72 years of age, and I was SAVED at age 26. I have seen so very much in the CHURCHES that make my spirit, heart, and mind cringe. God Almighty delivered out of the Roman Catholic Church at age 26, and I have been in many different chuches since then. I'm presently a Born Again Holy Spirit Filled Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ my SAVIOR.

I've been a researcher and published author of two books, all of which I have given away to people at no cost. When Paul Crouch died a few days ago I went on an Internet search to see the financial status of TBN and the many Ministers who speak on TBN. WOW******

I'm so glad that I'm NOT the JUDGE . . only God is the JUDGE. But I agree with you that there is something very wrong with the MODERN DAY churches.

However, as we know the LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS WORD WILL NEVER CHANGE. Keep God's Word in your heart and mind everyone, as a great battle is coming when Satan will be allowed to attack. WE are the ARMY OF GOD and we will defend Gods TRUTH. The lies and the pretence will be exposed.

Glory to God

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