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Counterfeit Christianity. Christian TV Evangelists who have joined Illuminati ranks Then & Now. Look close and pay attention.

 
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What a great bunch of information. THANK YOU Salt for posting these videos.

I'm 72 years of age, and I was SAVED at age 26. I have seen so very much in the CHURCHES that make my spirit, heart, and mind cringe. God Almighty delivered out of the Roman Catholic Church at age 26, and I have been in many different chuches since then. I'm presently a Born Again Holy Spirit Filled Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ my SAVIOR.

I've been a researcher and published author of two books, all of which I have given away to people at no cost. When Paul Crouch died a few days ago I went on an Internet search to see the financial status of TBN and the many Ministers who speak on TBN. WOW******

I'm so glad that I'm NOT the JUDGE . . only God is the JUDGE. But I agree with you that there is something very wrong with the MODERN DAY churches.

However, as we know the LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS WORD WILL NEVER CHANGE. Keep God's Word in your heart and mind everyone, as a great battle is coming when Satan will be allowed to attack. WE are the ARMY OF GOD and we will defend Gods TRUTH. The lies and the pretence will be exposed.

Glory to God

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amen!!
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Satan is not only a murderer.....but a master at half truths.


He has naturally introduced many false doctrines......to trip up Christians......divide them into many groups.....and have them doing things that are not in line with Scripture.


This will all be corrected when our Lord returns.


Pray for wisdom and discernment (James Chp 1)
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What about the Swaggarts? Are they on the level?
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What about the Swaggarts? Are they on the level?
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that's a joke, right?
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What about the Swaggarts? Are they on the level?
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that's a joke, right?
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I don't know of a single high-visibility media 'evangelist' who is 'on the level.' And if it is the "many" who are deceived, then even moderate visibility and low visibility 'evangelists' need to be examined with discernment.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Brothers and Sisters, stop looking to men to help you draw closer to God. Read the bible yourself and pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Sorry, but we can not completely trust anyone out there at this point.

There will be no excuses. Salvation through Jesus Christ is a personal responsibility. I don't think being deceived by these wolves will be an adequate excuse on judgement day.

Again, don't be lazy. Be a good berean and study the bible. Don't rely on others to tell you what it say's. You can't be deceived if you put all your trust in God and God alone.

1 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Once you have a handle on what God's word says. Deceiving spirits become much easier to recognize. You will instantly have discernment and see them for what they are.

If you find it hard to read, there are excellent audio bibles out there. Some with music and sound effects that really bring the word to life. God bless.
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May God Bless you for your faith and your boldness to stand for truth.
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What about the Swaggarts? Are they on the level?
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that's a joke, right?
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I know Jimmy had troubles in the past, but Frances seems
to be a godly person.
I watch her show and have never heard any doctrinal
errors.
I never contribute any money, because I've heard they are
loaded. I would NEVER contribute to TBN or Pat Robertson
for the same reason.

But are they what they appear to be?
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May God Bless you for your faith and your boldness to stand for truth.
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hf
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thanks for the pin hf
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Counterfeit Christianity is somewhat of an oxymoron isn't it?
One and the same.
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Sorry OP but you are wrong.. I personally know some of these TV evangelist and worked among them for years. Man may not be perfect with the ability to always handle money but that is not reason to say they are now part of the cult/illuminati.

Are you aware that Jesus bore on the cross not only your sins and sickness but also your poverty. Many of these people are rich because God has blessed them.
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Salt you brought me out of the woodwork with this thread. It is encouraging to see this talked up on GLP. I stand here with a bailing bucket trying to scoop the evil tide out of the church. There is always a remnant company of God's people out there, but don't be presumptuous thinking we're in when we have a long way to go. We have to finish the race and our kingdom is not of this world. Everyone who calls Jesus Lord needs to be praying for their families, church bodies, communities, and country. The power is in prayer to deliver ourselves and those who are held captive by the devil, even those deceived siblings and pastors who are hells agents unwitting. Anybody can be turned if they give way to the deceit of sin and make excuses. If we have our eyes on Jesus the head and are able to receive his revealed truth and walk in it, then we have a foundation to stand on. I was in deception for years as I had spent all my time on researching doom and the abysmal plans of the fallen kingdom as they manifest. Fear is the substance and empowerment of the fallen kingdom. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Faith says what he has promised he is able to perform. And what he calls, he purposes and empowers to completion, but we have to answer this with abiding and enduring faith. I did not experience freedom until Christ was invited back onto the throne of my life, and this is the source of power we have to overcome.
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Sorry OP but you are wrong.. I personally know some of these TV evangelist and worked among them for years. Man may not be perfect with the ability to always handle money but that is not reason to say they are now part of the cult/illuminati.

Are you aware that Jesus bore on the cross not only your sins and sickness but also your poverty. Many of these people are rich because God has blessed them.
 Quoting: Red X Raider


Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is, let alone what the Gospel is for? And heaven forbid they actually live into the Gospel's purpose.

(And I have known several, too.)
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Salt you brought me out of the woodwork with this thread. It is encouraging to see this talked up on GLP. I stand here with a bailing bucket trying to scoop the evil tide out of the church. There is always a remnant company of God's people out there, but don't be presumptuous thinking we're in when we have a long way to go. We have to finish the race and our kingdom is not of this world. Everyone who calls Jesus Lord needs to be praying for their families, church bodies, communities, and country. The power is in prayer to deliver ourselves and those who are held captive by the devil, even those deceived siblings and pastors who are hells agents unwitting. Anybody can be turned if they give way to the deceit of sin and make excuses. If we have our eyes on Jesus the head and are able to receive his revealed truth and walk in it, then we have a foundation to stand on. I was in deception for years as I had spent all my time on researching doom and the abysmal plans of the fallen kingdom as they manifest. Fear is the substance and empowerment of the fallen kingdom. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Faith says what he has promised he is able to perform. And what he calls, he purposes and empowers to completion, but we have to answer this with abiding and enduring faith. I did not experience freedom until Christ was invited back onto the throne of my life, and this is the source of power we have to overcome.
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any person can be turned away with deceit. any one of us.
we need to keep each other accountable. daily.

connect with God at the start of each day
ask for His Holy Spirit to guide every step into all truth
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I don't go to any church any more I was caught up in Mormonism at an age in my early 20's I have denounced it for a very long time- but seriously don't know where to turn or go! I would like to know about being reborn and the Holy Spirit but where to go for this baptism whom to trust? I have had a lot of conflict regarding this!
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bump nice post

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Sorry OP but you are wrong.. I personally know some of these TV evangelist and worked among them for years. Man may not be perfect with the ability to always handle money but that is not reason to say they are now part of the cult/illuminati.

Are you aware that Jesus bore on the cross not only your sins and sickness but also your poverty. Many of these people are rich because God has blessed them.
 Quoting: Red X Raider


Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is, let alone what the Gospel is for? And heaven forbid they actually live into the Gospel's purpose.

(And I have known several, too.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


That is a bold assumption. "Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is?" Have you ever even listened to one of them for more than just a hit job by these youtube "prophets" who discredit anyone who teaches that Healing, Prosperity, Happiness comes from God? They do articulate what the Gospel is. Many of these ministries are extremely active internationally and fund many overseas missionaries. Rinehard Bonnke for example is funded by some of the largest and wealthiest ministries in America. The very ministries that this entire thread is discrediting.

Rinehard Bonnke is considered the Billy Graham of Africa and many other nations. Benny Hinn has led Millions to Christ as well in other countries.

But inform me please. What are they NOT articulating about the Gospel?
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I've found that anyone that is into those you named in the vids are too far gone anyway and can't be taken out of it.

slaphim
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

And as through your life you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
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Sorry OP but you are wrong.. I personally know some of these TV evangelist and worked among them for years. Man may not be perfect with the ability to always handle money but that is not reason to say they are now part of the cult/illuminati.

Are you aware that Jesus bore on the cross not only your sins and sickness but also your poverty. Many of these people are rich because God has blessed them.
 Quoting: Red X Raider


Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is, let alone what the Gospel is for? And heaven forbid they actually live into the Gospel's purpose.

(And I have known several, too.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


That is a bold assumption. "Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is?" Have you ever even listened to one of them for more than just a hit job by these youtube "prophets" who discredit anyone who teaches that Healing, Prosperity, Happiness comes from God? They do articulate what the Gospel is. Many of these ministries are extremely active internationally and fund many overseas missionaries. Rinehard Bonnke for example is funded by some of the largest and wealthiest ministries in America. The very ministries that this entire thread is discrediting.

Rinehard Bonnke is considered the Billy Graham of Africa and many other nations. Benny Hinn has led Millions to Christ as well in other countries.

But inform me please. What are they NOT articulating about the Gospel?
 Quoting: Red X Raider


A thread cannot discredit anyone. A post cannot discredit anyone. Only a person can discredit themselves.

In light of some of the things you have written, I stand by my original statement.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Sorry OP but you are wrong.. I personally know some of these TV evangelist and worked among them for years. Man may not be perfect with the ability to always handle money but that is not reason to say they are now part of the cult/illuminati.

Are you aware that Jesus bore on the cross not only your sins and sickness but also your poverty. Many of these people are rich because God has blessed them.
 Quoting: Red X Raider


Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is, let alone what the Gospel is for? And heaven forbid they actually live into the Gospel's purpose.

(And I have known several, too.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


That is a bold assumption. "Then why is it that they cannot articulate what the Gospel is?" Have you ever even listened to one of them for more than just a hit job by these youtube "prophets" who discredit anyone who teaches that Healing, Prosperity, Happiness comes from God? They do articulate what the Gospel is. Many of these ministries are extremely active internationally and fund many overseas missionaries. Rinehard Bonnke for example is funded by some of the largest and wealthiest ministries in America. The very ministries that this entire thread is discrediting.

Rinehard Bonnke is considered the Billy Graham of Africa and many other nations. Benny Hinn has led Millions to Christ as well in other countries.

But inform me please. What are they NOT articulating about the Gospel?
 Quoting: Red X Raider


A thread cannot discredit anyone. A post cannot discredit anyone. Only a person can discredit themselves.

In light of some of the things you have written, I stand by my original statement.
 Quoting: Life and Love


It's pointless with you people sometimes. You stand back and criticize these ministries but then you have no proof. you don't care one bit to come onto a thread to speak bad about them but when asked facts you say "a thread cannot discredit anyone"

Why did you even come to this thread in the first place if you wasn't convinced this thread spoke truth about them?
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I've found that anyone that is into those you named in the vids are too far gone anyway and can't be taken out of it.

slaphim
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i wouldn't say that. when i first got saved i got caught up in a humble church that grew really fast into a mega pentacostal church. when they started the speaking in tongues trip and had guests like Cerillo and Myles Monroe come speak, purposefully threw people down in the prayer line so they appeared to be slain in the spirit, i went running outta there so fast my britches could hardly keep up.
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I've found that anyone that is into those you named in the vids are too far gone anyway and can't be taken out of it.

slaphim
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i wouldn't say that. when i first got saved i got caught up in a humble church that grew really fast into a mega pentacostal church. when they started the speaking in tongues trip and had guests like Cerillo and Myles Monroe come speak, purposefully threw people down in the prayer line so they appeared to be slain in the spirit, i went running outta there so fast my britches could hardly keep up.
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Why? Is speaking in tongues not a Acts chapter 2 experience as well as other places in the New Testament? Laying on of hands when praying for people wrong? Did the light of Christ not physically knock Saul/Paul off the donkey?
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Coming out of the cult 101.

So what's new and different?


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