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you summed it up succinctly, "entertainment"
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It felt like being at a dance when you were a kid! A large group can generate it's own hysteria, and this is how it was. There were 2000 people there, and it was in a warehouse, and the place was rocking! He did 3 shows each Sunday!
People want to believe in God so badly, but they don't know how. They are susceptible to these buggers!
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It's such a shame too because that many people working together could do enough good to almost pull off miracles with the right focus.
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my friend, just a few sincere believers praying fervently perform miracles, I have seen it over and over
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Me too!
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If I were you salt, I would not make my personal ministry to bash other christians. You see through the glass darkly as does everyone. The revelation, the revealing has begun for those who are watching. Your videos are for casting stones at people whom you are supposed to care for. Shame on you.
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My understanding of this thread is that Salt is admonishing us to be discerning. The Christian religion is so filled with heresy, and professing Christians are so lacking in discernment and are not digging into the Bible to determine what it is that God is saying. What matters is "What does God say about this?" and Salt is rightfully pointing out that these false teachers are not adhering to God's Words.
The subject is needed---so many people who are supposed to be searching God's Words are not, and they are being duped.
The videos show what these heretics are doing.... and seem to be needed by those who are truly seeking truth and discernment.
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It felt like being at a dance when you were a kid! A large group can generate it's own hysteria, and this is how it was. There were 2000 people there, and it was in a warehouse, and the place was rocking! He did 3 shows each Sunday!
People want to believe in God so badly, but they don't know how. They are susceptible to these buggers!
 Quoting: bigD111


It's such a shame too because that many people working together could do enough good to almost pull off miracles with the right focus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29804770


my friend, just a few sincere believers praying fervently perform miracles, I have seen it over and over
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


Me too!
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When the 144,000 come, we will see entire cities healed all at once! They will have a major impact on mankind.
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
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After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
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My grandfather was a Mason. In 1967 we changed churches from Presbyterian to Baptist. I found out later in life why - the Masons are the ones that started the whole 'Moral Majority'. All controlled opposition. Fallwell, all of them.
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yep, i hear you. and what's worse is that most of the "southern" denominations have white supremists in the woodpile, ifyouknowhatimean.

look at dudes like shepherd's chapel arnold murray and the like... all kkk and supplying ji-normous amounts of money to that cause
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Can any of these claims be proven about the man with certainty?

Gossip and false witness is not something any of us who love The Lord want to mess around with. I'm just saying because I understand you love The Lord.
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I've found that anyone that is into those you named in the vids are too far gone anyway and can't be taken out of it.

slaphim
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i wouldn't say that. when i first got saved i got caught up in a humble church that grew really fast into a mega pentacostal church. when they started the speaking in tongues trip and had guests like Cerillo and Myles Monroe come speak, purposefully threw people down in the prayer line so they appeared to be slain in the spirit, i went running outta there so fast my britches could hardly keep up.
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Why? Is speaking in tongues not a Acts chapter 2 experience as well as other places in the New Testament? Laying on of hands when praying for people wrong? Did the light of Christ not physically knock Saul/Paul off the donkey?
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The people that heard the Holy Spirit speak did not understand because the message was about the end times. These very times, and they lacked the context to understand. What they heard was spoken down to the letter I each persons own dialect, not jibberish.
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111




When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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It really irks me when I hear of some preacher/healer that's come to town and is holding a conference,.. but you have to pay heaps of money to go see them.

Acts 8
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
18 Now when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money,
19 saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay my hands, he may receive the Holy Spirit.
20 But Peter said unto him, Thy silver perish with thee, because thou hast thought to obtain the gift of God with money.
21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right before God.


How much worse would it be in God's eyes for a preacher to be selling the gifts of God, rather than just having someone offer to buy them.

They make their money from people's gullibility.
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111




When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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In support.. Premeditating jibberish is still premeditating. Many don't understand it is a specific future time that God will speak through those He chooses.

Mark 13:11
But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
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After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111




When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38121568


In support.. Premeditating jibberish is still premeditating. Many don't understand it is a specific future time that God will speak through those He chooses.

Mark 13:11
But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
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yes, and why a pastor is to preach The Word, not his own meditations, and one phenomenon that I have witnessed over and over, is that when the Word is faithfully preached, each hearer hears a different sermon. It is the HS, not the pastor, speaking
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My grandfather was a Mason. In 1967 we changed churches from Presbyterian to Baptist. I found out later in life why - the Masons are the ones that started the whole 'Moral Majority'. All controlled opposition. Fallwell, all of them.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


yep, i hear you. and what's worse is that most of the "southern" denominations have white supremists in the woodpile, ifyouknowhatimean.

look at dudes like shepherd's chapel arnold murray and the like... all kkk and supplying ji-normous amounts of money to that cause
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Can any of these claims be proven about the man with certainty?

Gossip and false witness is not something any of us who love The Lord want to mess around with. I'm just saying because I understand you love The Lord.
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yes they are proven. multitudes of documentation to prove it. i would not throw stuff like that around unless it were verified.
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I would disagree since I have this gift, the gifts of the spirit are real.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
 Quoting: Salt


After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111




When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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I don't go to church, so no one has heard me speak. It's just me and God. The Spirit prays for me and knows what to pray for without my own bias interfering. It works as far as I can see.
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unless you are speaking foreign human natural languages, it isn't a gift.

be careful.
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After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
 Quoting: bigD111




When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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I don't go to church, so no one has heard me speak. It's just me and God. The Spirit prays for me and knows what to pray for without my own bias interfering. It works as far as I can see.
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well I often pray in the Spirit, and like you say it's just between me and God. of course it's mostly silent
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After 30 plus years, I have determined the origin. It is from God.lolsign
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When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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I don't go to church, so no one has heard me speak. It's just me and God. The Spirit prays for me and knows what to pray for without my own bias interfering. It works as far as I can see.
 Quoting: bigD111

well I often pray in the Spirit, and like you say it's just between me and God. of course it's mostly silent
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yeah, kinda comes natural these days!
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
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When you speak "in tongues" can anyone interpret what you are "saying"? Do you speak a language you don't know to people who are getting saved by your speaking in their language? Otherwise, I don't believe you. My daughter and some of her friends were in a pentecostal church (which I admonished here against---she finally had enough discernment to come out of it. They attended a 6-month class and before they could "graduate", had to "speak in tongues". I asked her to explain it to me. She said that she and her friends all faked "tongues" so they could "graduate." The pastor of her church did an obvious faking of it, also, in front of the congregation.
At Pentecost, the disciples who spoke in tongues were talking to people from many different dialects, or tongues, and the people who were hearing their language, which the disciples had not previously spoken, were able to hear their message.
I can understand the Holy Spirit using Christians to convey messages in languages that they have not previously used, when the Spirit wants to draw people, but most of the "tongues" noise is a lot of nonsense. You've determined the origin is from God.... but didn't explain how you would determine such a thing. Did anyone get saved as a result of your speaking gibberish?
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I don't go to church, so no one has heard me speak. It's just me and God. The Spirit prays for me and knows what to pray for without my own bias interfering. It works as far as I can see.
 Quoting: bigD111

well I often pray in the Spirit, and like you say it's just between me and God. of course it's mostly silent
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


yeah, kinda comes natural these days!
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But sometimes I'm out in the barn and no one is around so I just start talking to Him, out loud, it's all good
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The Coop telling it like it is!!
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Tiny Tim is looking good. whatever happened to miss vicki
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
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I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
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I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
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hmmm... maybe it's Hebrew.
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
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I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
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i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
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I don't go to church, so no one has heard me speak. It's just me and God. The Spirit prays for me and knows what to pray for without my own bias interfering. It works as far as I can see.
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well I often pray in the Spirit, and like you say it's just between me and God. of course it's mostly silent
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yeah, kinda comes natural these days!
 Quoting: bigD111

But sometimes I'm out in the barn and no one is around so I just start talking to Him, out loud, it's all good
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That is called having a relationship! Jesus loves this!
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this is going to sound twisted, but watch out for the big prosperity preachers doing lots of humanitarian work. its NOT what it seems. lots of illuminati are involved in humanitarian efforts - or so it seems. lot at brad and angelina, et al.
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I think there may be truth to this. My observations is that a lot of the big corporation churches are all into going to Myanmmar. It seems like every big church around is going there. Made my alarm bell go off for some reason. Why is it ONLY Myanmar?
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

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I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
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i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
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Do you feel the same about the other gifts of the Spirit? Prophecy? etc.
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

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 Quoting: Salt


I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
 Quoting: bigD111


i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
 Quoting: Salt


Do you feel the same about the other gifts of the Spirit? Prophecy? etc.
 Quoting: bigD111


no. there are many gifts but some have passed away.
you missed my link
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My grandfather was a Mason. In 1967 we changed churches from Presbyterian to Baptist. I found out later in life why - the Masons are the ones that started the whole 'Moral Majority'. All controlled opposition. Fallwell, all of them.
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yep, i hear you. and what's worse is that most of the "southern" denominations have white supremists in the woodpile, ifyouknowhatimean.

look at dudes like shepherd's chapel arnold murray and the like... all kkk and supplying ji-normous amounts of money to that cause
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Can any of these claims be proven about the man with certainty?

Gossip and false witness is not something any of us who love The Lord want to mess around with. I'm just saying because I understand you love The Lord.
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yes they are proven. multitudes of documentation to prove it. i would not throw stuff like that around unless it were verified.
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Mankind always seems to have a different idea than God about who should guide them. God chose a judge with a gimp right arm, a man with a goad, and also a woman who was one of the best judges. Men most likely would not have chosen these to guide by looking at first glance.

Identity churches alighn very loosely with with pastor Murray on one topic only. Gods Word is written in parables for a reason as many aren't supposed to understand in fullness. Father in His Word even shows us that covert means are to be used at times when bringing about His will.

Being real sure and not relying on others to do homework when it comes to witnessing is a prudent and wise approach. That's all that needs be said.
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I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
 Quoting: bigD111


i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
 Quoting: Salt


Do you feel the same about the other gifts of the Spirit? Prophecy? etc.
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no. there are many gifts but some have passed away.
you missed my link
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well prophecy has not passed away. All prophecy is of Christ. Therefore all who preach the Word and prophecy of Christ are prophets. It's a narrow definition, nothing to do with Nostradamus, modern day liars, et al
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there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for God to give man jibberish and glosalalia to edify or prophecy for the church. God is not a god of confusion. There is no secret divine language that makes people babble incoherently.

pentacostal tongue babble is satanic and part of the deeply satanic pentacostal movement. period.

nothing like engaging in borderline hysterical babbling in order to open the gates wide for demons to harass.

when the disciples were given the gifts of tongues, it was the ability to speak in foreign languages for the purpose of teaching the gospels and establishing the church.

tongues has passed away as there is no need for them anymore.
that is not to say that God would not give the gift of the ability to speak in a foreign language suddenly and miraculously for the purpose of ministering to someone.

even the scriptures describe that when the men left the room with their new gift that the people outside could hear them speak in their own languages.

it was human language. period end of sentence.

Thread: All you need is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE to live pleasing to God. 7 times it's repeated. Prophecy, tongues & words of knowledge have passed away
 Quoting: Salt


I don't babble, sounds like language to me. How many languages have been spoken by mankind since the beginning? To me it sounds like an asian language.
 Quoting: bigD111


i'm telling you, that is NOT from God
if God is not speaking to you in a clear human language that you can easily and quickly understand than it is NOT from God

i know you've been taught to accept it and worse, that letting it go is a major sin. that is pentacostal lies from the pit of hell.
i'm telling you, repent and put it behind you
it is only preventing you from hearing God correctly
i'm sure He would like to simply have a normal conversation with you

drop the jibberish
it isnt necessary and only hinders the real communication God wants to have with you
 Quoting: Salt


sb1

Lots of phony belief systems out there. Pentacostal is one. I came out of the false RCC cult and was shocked by all the lies I'd been fed and what the TRUTH actually is.

Stay away from the Religions and let the Holy Spirit guide you OUT.
TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION..

to be sure we are on the same "page" we must first be in the same BOOK

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. The gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14

Connect The Dots ... they will lead you to The Answer

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