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R.P. McMurphy
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Shame on you liberals...shame...
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In order to feel shame, one must possess both a sense of right and wrong, and a sense of empathy for fellow human beings.

Democrats have neither of these.
They are all high-functioning psychopaths.
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^this
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This guy breaks the Health Care System, rapes the coal industry and creates a strong racial tension across the nations youth.

Anyone think he should get voted WORST president ever?!


All I can say is, I didn't vote for the goon!
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Some months ago, I posted on here how we are never going to see obamacare fully enacted.

I still stand by that prediction.
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This fucking guy is ASKING for a revolution..

Unbelievable..
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I think that's the whole point, someone or something is itching to goad the american people into a civil conflict.
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There is no legal mechanism in the text of the Obamacare law that provides a mechanism for collection of or enforcement of the tax other than withholding all or part of an individual's tax refund. Any attempted enforcement through intimidation or coercion is a crime unto itself with legal recourse, including enlisting the services of your County Sheriff to demand that federal agents cease and desist subject to arrest. If you intend not to comply, it is IMPERATIVE that you stand with others who refuse to comply. We cannot allow our neighbors to be separated from the herd and picked off one by one. As the Founders said, "Either we all hang together or we will surely hang separately". Be strong and draw your line in the sand.

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You haven't been watching the news lately have you? Obama now changes Obamacare law constantly without any approval from anyone simply by decree.
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Like I said, NO LEGAL mechanism.
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Don't we really mean Val?
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This guy breaks the Health Care System, rapes the coal industry and creates a strong racial tension across the nations youth.

Anyone think he should get voted WORST president ever?!


All I can say is, I didn't vote for the goon!
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Apparently, most Americans now do. Check out the poll numbers...

[link to reagancoalition.com]
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Don't worry, there will be free health care in camp F.E.M.A., and once you are there, all your troubles will soon go away!!!

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As if I give a shit about a Kenyan village idiot and his threats, along with his autonomous District of Columbia non-state federal corporate entity that only applies to "United States citizens". I'm a Florida Citizen and a United States of America National. I am not a DC federal citizen. Bring it on, Obamy.
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I really don't see no other way out but to arrest everyone in congress. Revolution time. Collect all the Yankees too.
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I wonder if this is the line in the sand for many people who have had it with unconstitutional laws and being forced to do things against their will. If millions of people stand steadfast and do not engage in this program, will they fight back when the police come to arrest them?
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad

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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


Says the guy who wants $15 an hour for flipping burgers... or did you already get fired from that job? chuckle
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


$15 should be around minimum wage. You go flip burgers and enjoy getting all the grease in your face for less than $15 an hour. I am underpaid at $19.34 with full benefits to sort boxes and wouldn't have the benefits or even minimum wage without the union. I have been at my job 8 years. I've filed over 200 grievances and they hate me, that's how corrupt these companies are and need to been kept in check by the unions.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


The top 1% should pay about 80% in taxes while the top .1% should be paying upwards of 90% if you look at reality. Sales tax should be eliminated as it hurts the poor and middle class.

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Some months ago, I posted on here how we are never going to see obamacare fully enacted.

I still stand by that prediction.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


It was never meant to be fully implemented. Obamacare has two purposes, to destroy America's health care system, and to control the people. They figured out long ago that the only way to bring in socialized medicine, was to destroy what we have now.

Look at the stats now. 90% of everyone who's being enrolled in Obamacare, are being put onto Medicaid. Which is a system that is already overburdened and ready to collapse.

They have plans for us, plans which they dare not speak in public because we are cattle and not people to them.

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Some months ago, I posted on here how we are never going to see obamacare fully enacted.

I still stand by that prediction.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


It was never meant to be fully implemented. Obamacare has two purposes, to destroy America's health care system, and to control the people. They figured out long ago that the only way to bring in socialized medicine, was to destroy what we have now.

Look at the stats now. 90% of everyone who's being enrolled in Obamacare, are being put onto Medicaid. Which is a system that is already overburdened and ready to collapse.

They have plans for us, plans which they dare not speak in public because we are cattle and not people to them.
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You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for.

Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part.
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Now you can force them. The rules have changed, you're in denial. Not saying it's right but it our new country, change.
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I'm not changing shit. Not buying no overpriced insurance and not paying no fucking fine.
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I will join you in telling these tyrants to go eat a bag of dicks. No signing shit; no buying shit; no paying any fines. Fuck with me and I will begin to seriously misbehave.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


Says the guy who wants $15 an hour for flipping burgers... or did you already get fired from that job? chuckle
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


$15 should be around minimum wage. You go flip burgers and enjoy getting all the grease in your face for less than $15 an hour. I am underpaid at $19.34 with full benefits to sort boxes and wouldn't have the benefits or even minimum wage without the union. I have been at my job 8 years. I've filed over 200 grievances and they hate me, that's how corrupt these companies are and need to been kept in check by the unions.
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Why don't you learn another skill.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


The top 1% should pay about 80% in taxes while the top .1% should be paying upwards of 90% if you look at reality. Sales tax should be eliminated as it hurts the poor and middle class.
 Quoting: krosty


No, they should eliminate income tax, and tax people on their purchases. Here in Washington State there is no tax on food. People who consume a lot, pay more.

Sales tax doesn't hurt us a lot because we are not spendthrifts.
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and finished it in the middle of the summer."
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


Right...because every damn democrat tells people what they want to hear, that the rich are rich because they steal money from the poor. Teaching and preaching resentment and envy has worked well for the democrap politician who champions the "poor" while being extremely rich himself. And isn't it odd that rich dems always demand more money from the middle class to give to the "poor" while they have all kinds of tax exempt loop holes for themselves?
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You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for.

Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291


The Supreme Court said it was which is the reason this should be called ObamaRobert'scare. Supreme Court Justice Robert's is as culpable as Obama and every damned democrap.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


Says the guy who wants $15 an hour for flipping burgers... or did you already get fired from that job? chuckle
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


$15 should be around minimum wage. You go flip burgers and enjoy getting all the grease in your face for less than $15 an hour. I am underpaid at $19.34 with full benefits to sort boxes and wouldn't have the benefits or even minimum wage without the union. I have been at my job 8 years. I've filed over 200 grievances and they hate me, that's how corrupt these companies are and need to been kept in check by the unions.
 Quoting: krosty


Why don't you learn another skill.
 Quoting: waterlily


I have lots of skills. Why should I put my skills to use for anything other than organized labor? Join the writers guild?

Labor is a skill. One you are probably not capable of; dealing with the daily mental and physical toils. We all go insane or become drug addicts, mostly both. We have some of the shortest life expectancy's. Your main occupation hazard is hemorrhoids. Where is our piece of the pie?
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So........................anyone have any inside information what O & Co plan to call their new country?

There was much talk of the North American Union in prior years, but I doubt even Canada would want anything to do with the US any longer - not that I could blame them - and O & Co are even too far outside the ball park for Mexico.

People need to come to the realization that we are truly, truly alone.
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Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then.
 Quoting: krosty


The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


The top 1% should pay about 80% in taxes while the top .1% should be paying upwards of 90% if you look at reality. Sales tax should be eliminated as it hurts the poor and middle class.
 Quoting: krosty


No, they should eliminate income tax, and tax people on their purchases. Here in Washington State there is no tax on food. People who consume a lot, pay more.

Sales tax doesn't hurt us a lot because we are not spendthrifts.
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Yes I agree there should be a luxury tax for the rich. Ideally, you'd be taxed on your purchases based upon your income.
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You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for.

Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291


The Supreme Court said it was which is the reason this should be called ObamaRobert'scare. Supreme Court Justice Robert's is as culpable as Obama and every damned democrap.
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Word.
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How long will the program last till its completely bankrupt? 6 months? then what?
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They will raise taxes on the producers...as they always do.
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It's not a tax. Remember?

The IRS will enforce Obamacare, but it's not a tax, it was challenged in the supreme court and despite being unconstitutional it was upheld as law.

By design millions of Americans will be forced our of affordable coverage plans and group/employer plans because these plans cannot meet the minimum requirements of the ACA LAW, they will be forced into higher cost plans by design, forced by the LAW.

The administration and architects of Obamacare are counting on those hundreds of millions to fund the subsidies for the poor and for the free care for the very poor. They need the participation of MILLIONS of young healthy Americans.

The only way it will fail is if everyone refuses to sign up.

Problem is, that will leave millions without any health coverage at all, people need to realize that if they have not yet been cancelled from existing coverage plans they will eventually, the plans they have now will be illegal under the full implementation of the ACA.

It all comes down to having NO other choice ultimately.
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Exactly my ex who has great insurance now and stage four renal cancer has been told his work insurance is being cancelled and he can't afford obamacare.. Wtf? How does this help?
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I am so sorry and wish I your ex all best wishes and good luck. What a horrible thing to have happen, but I fear it will be a scenario repeated over and over again.
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You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for.

Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291



Obamacare has been ruled a TAX by the SCOTUS. The force of the government can be used to come down on people who refuse to pay taxes. We see it time and time again. People are in jail now for tax evasion. Eventually, you will pay...one way or another. So much for living in a free nation, right?
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The rich already pay 60-65 percent in some case. Even more when you figure in sales taxes...

How much is enough?

Who cares, right?

Just as long as you get taken care of....

sad
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


The top 1% should pay about 80% in taxes while the top .1% should be paying upwards of 90% if you look at reality. Sales tax should be eliminated as it hurts the poor and middle class.
 Quoting: krosty


No, they should eliminate income tax, and tax people on their purchases. Here in Washington State there is no tax on food. People who consume a lot, pay more.

Sales tax doesn't hurt us a lot because we are not spendthrifts.
 Quoting: waterlily


Yes I agree there should be a luxury tax for the rich. Ideally, you'd be taxed on your purchases based upon your income.
 Quoting: krosty


A luxury tax? Oh good God straight out of commie 101. You do NOT punish the rich and expect to increase revenue.

A flat tax where every one pays 5 per cent is the only way to go. If you make 10,000 dollar you pay 5 per cent of the 10. If you make 1 million you pay 5 per cent by taxing everyone at the same rate the rich will automatically pay more...

Last Edited by davvi on 12/08/2013 06:47 PM
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You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for.

Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291



Obamacare has been ruled a TAX by the SCOTUS. The force of the government can be used to come down on people who refuse to pay taxes. We see it time and time again. People are in jail now for tax evasion. Eventually, you will pay...one way or another. So much for living in a free nation, right?
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