NBC - Obama refuses to rule out jail time for those who refuse to buy insurance | |
missy4tane User ID: 49260691 United States 12/08/2013 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This means that all the current people milking the system as of now, will go to jail for, purposely being a burden to all of society. Quoting: Anonymous 20575401 This is the message I got out of what he said!!! No matter what race you are!! That's what he said! Hmmmm... "Work will set you free" over the gate of a prison camp. Where have we seen this before? AND Obamacare isn't a burden?? I had insurance until this. What about the burden to me and my family now uninsured. Happy Fucken New Year!!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46648385 United States 12/08/2013 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire notion that there are somehow millions of people out there smoking cigars and eating caviar that could afford health insurance but don't buy it because they are just too greedy as absolute bull shit. If you have any assets and you show up at a hospital without insurance the hospital will turn you over to a collection agency and they will file liens on you, and fuck up your credit. People that can afford insurance already HAVE insurance. They have insurance because they have something to lose and they don't want to lose it when the hospital sues them. The people that don't have insurance don't have it because they can't afford it. These are the people Obama wants to force to buy insurance. What does he expect them to do, go out and steal to get the money? |
missy4tane User ID: 49260691 United States 12/08/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire notion that there are somehow millions of people out there smoking cigars and eating caviar that could afford health insurance but don't buy it because they are just too greedy as absolute bull shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46648385 If you have any assets and you show up at a hospital without insurance the hospital will turn you over to a collection agency and they will file liens on you, and fuck up your credit. People that can afford insurance already HAVE insurance. They have insurance because they have something to lose and they don't want to lose it when the hospital sues them. The people that don't have insurance don't have it because they can't afford it. These are the people Obama wants to force to buy insurance. What does he expect them to do, go out and steal to get the money? |
ThePaleRider77 User ID: 47376011 United States 12/08/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly don't you think the whole damn thing is gonna be trashed when we elect the great dismantler of this program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36655290 So much arrogance right now - but he won't hold office forever. you will be shocked then,because the next one in office works for the same people that barry works for..hint not the people of the usa |
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Nikola Tesla User ID: 48326183 United States 12/08/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If people who can afford insurance don't buy it and choose to be a burden on the rest of society... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46648385 Yeah right, what about people who could get a job that just get welfare instead that are a burden on the rest of society! Since when does a free society lock people up for not purchasing a product?!?! Completely unacceptable! Wait, your a burden to society if you refuse to purchase a specific product? Why not let others open their own health plans? That would remove the "burden" but do you see that happening? Fuck this shit, I am a patriot and I will not stand for that! "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/08/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is nothing affordable about this. Its designed to crash the economy and hand most people's income over to them. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn One person discovered that their 14 000 a year income meant they had to pay over 40% for premiums, but if they typed in over 50 000, they only had to pay 2%, and if they typed in 15 000, they paid a few thousand less too. Something really really screwy going on. No one in their right mind is going to buy the insurance. They should try that expiment putting in different races. Do blacks have to pay as much as whites, other things being equal? What about asians? white hispanics? |
MisterHouston User ID: 12820979 United States 12/08/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If people who can afford insurance don't buy it and choose to be a burden on the rest of society... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46648385 Yeah right, what about people who could get a job that just get welfare instead that are a burden on the rest of society! Since when does a free society lock people up for not purchasing a product?!?! Completely unacceptable! Wait, your a burden to society if you refuse to purchase a specific product? Why not let others open their own health plans? That would remove the "burden" but do you see that happening? Fuck this shit, I am a patriot and I will not stand for that! Texans are arrogant Texans; but you would be too if you were correct all the damn time! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51148809 United States 12/08/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone say prohibition boys and girls? A short lesson in history. Prohibition was once the law of the land. All the good boys and girls followed the law, because it was the law. But all the free people decided to say fuck the law. They drank illegal booze, parties sprung up, underground bootlegging, and a free market took over and replaced the once legal one. Soon the government realized they had made a mistake, that for all of their best laid plans had backfired on them. They were shown to be idiots, and eventually prohibition was repealed. Would you like another history lesson boys and girls. It was called slavery, once upon a time in the home of the brave and the land of the free there were these people, they lived in bondage. They had to wake up every morning and work 1/3 of their lives so that the rest of the nation could walk around and get a bunch of free shit, the rich could get richer, and the poor could get poorer. Then one day the money became worthless. All the jackboot thugs that were supposed to enforce the slavery of the working class, were no longer getting paid to do so. They reached too far, the entire system collapsed, and once again like the ancient times of the exodus, men were set free of their bondage. The end. |
MisterHouston User ID: 12820979 United States 12/08/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone say prohibition boys and girls? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51148809 A short lesson in history. Prohibition was once the law of the land. All the good boys and girls followed the law, because it was the law. But all the free people decided to say fuck the law. They drank illegal booze, parties sprung up, underground bootlegging, and a free market took over and replaced the once legal one. Soon the government realized they had made a mistake, that for all of their best laid plans had backfired on them. They were shown to be idiots, and eventually prohibition was repealed. Would you like another history lesson boys and girls. It was called slavery, once upon a time in the home of the brave and the land of the free there were these people, they lived in bondage. They had to wake up every morning and work 1/3 of their lives so that the rest of the nation could walk around and get a bunch of free shit, the rich could get richer, and the poor could get poorer. Then one day the money became worthless. All the jackboot thugs that were supposed to enforce the slavery of the working class, were no longer getting paid to do so. They reached too far, the entire system collapsed, and once again like the ancient times of the exodus, men were set free of their bondage. The end. Thank you daddy; I like true stories, better than fairy tales! Texans are arrogant Texans; but you would be too if you were correct all the damn time! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51148809 United States 12/08/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly don't you think the whole damn thing is gonna be trashed when we elect the great dismantler of this program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36655290 So much arrogance right now - but he won't hold office forever. you will be shocked then,because the next one in office works for the same people that barry works for..hint not the people of the usa He hasn't figured out why everything went electronic, and why there is no longer a paper trail of who voted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33509203 Canada 12/08/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consistent with general worldview of American government. More prisoners per capita than even the most corrupt totalitarian regimes in the world. The for-profit prison industry in the US combines all the repression of societ-style gulags with the entrepreneurial spirit of American capitalism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44520687 United States 12/08/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Got to spread the wealth around" One way or another they have to FORCE those who can pay, to pay and pay more in order to subsidize those who can't and provide it free to those with no ability to pay. It is the only way Obamacare can work. If they see massive numbers of their most desired demographic NOT signing up, they will turn op the heat until they comply. How far will they go ultimately to enforce this? Do you really want to find out? |
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/08/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Jack Wrightnsee Exactly...you don't have to be a Muslim, but if you're not, you have to pay the tax... It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay that tax. Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/08/2013 12:36 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49523005 United States 12/08/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you hear the freudian slip ?? @ 1:15 Quoting: Phennommennonn where even after the subsidies are provided its still very hard for ppl to afford - UHHHH to get the health ins that they need wow...what a rat's ass no, he's a flea's ass on a rats ass no, he's an amoeba's ass on a flea's ass on a rat's ass it is not only obvious that he is systematically destroying the citizens of this country but also that he has no fuckin clue on what it's like to survive as a middle class worker in this country in this economy. he has had people washin his drawers and cutting his steak all his mutherfricken life impeach! |
Nikola Tesla User ID: 48326183 United States 12/08/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consistent with general worldview of American government. More prisoners per capita than even the most corrupt totalitarian regimes in the world. The for-profit prison industry in the US combines all the repression of societ-style gulags with the entrepreneurial spirit of American capitalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33509203 ^^ Yes! "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
dawnie User ID: 17485571 United States 12/08/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you would rather imprison them at a cost to taxpayers of thousands of dollars a year, and put their families on welfare, all because they refuse to be forced to buy something they either don't want or can't afford? Yeah, that'll lesson the burden on society. Quoting: Revbo™ Bite me, you Kenyan commie bastard. Excellent point. A flag flown upside down is a symbol of a country in distress. As a result of the many traitors and enemies inside our own government and the many unconstitutional acts, legislation and atrocities passed and/or committed against our lives, liberty and property, as well as a reckless foreign policy meant to enrich and empower an already wealthy group of 'elites' while wreaking havoc around the globe and committing atrocities against large numbers of innocent peoples in the name of 'spreading democracy', the United States is no longer a free country and the lives of its citizens as well as the lives of our brothers and sisters around the globe, are in dire danger and distress. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/08/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every member of the House and Senate who voted for Obamacare is responsible for this. Now they're saying "we never intended it to get like this!" They voted for a bill without knowing what was in it. They voted for a bill without knowing what was NOT in it, what was left undefined that could be "clarified" with later regulations solely under Obama's control. They voted for a bill that created a bureaucracy under Obama's control and trashed the stability of the status quo, thereby granting Obama the PRACTICAL power to break other laws and rules with impunity. This too was their responsibility to prevent, their "check and balance" on the executive.; |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13927506 United States 12/08/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Jack Wrightnsee Exactly...you don't have to be a Muslim, but if you're not, you have to pay the tax... It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay that tax. :this one: Glad someone else gets it. |
waterlily User ID: 48755735 United States 12/08/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consistent with general worldview of American government. More prisoners per capita than even the most corrupt totalitarian regimes in the world. The for-profit prison industry in the US combines all the repression of societ-style gulags with the entrepreneurial spirit of American capitalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33509203 ^^ Yes! Potent mixture, eh? We also have a surveillance state that is neck and neck with China, and are building on it. While we are all watching NSA, the gov is installing surveillance grid equipment under our noses. NSA is a diversion for what is really going on ... and that is even increased data collection capabilities. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
waterlily User ID: 48755735 United States 12/08/2013 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every member of the House and Senate who voted for Obamacare is responsible for this. Now they're saying "we never intended it to get like this!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50558796 They voted for a bill without knowing what was in it. They voted for a bill without knowing what was NOT in it, what was left undefined that could be "clarified" with later regulations solely under Obama's control. They voted for a bill that created a bureaucracy under Obama's control and trashed the stability of the status quo, thereby granting Obama the PRACTICAL power to break other laws and rules with impunity. This too was their responsibility to prevent, their "check and balance" on the executive.; They don need no steenkin checks and balances! *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50400259 United States 12/08/2013 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/08/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Jack Wrightnsee Exactly...you don't have to be a Muslim, but if you're not, you have to pay the tax... It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay that tax. So what happens if you say you're a Muslim? That's not a way out I guess because they they have a whole bunch of expectations or else you get killed? |
Instant Karma User ID: 30388691 United States 12/08/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The penalties in the ACA are taken out of people's tax refunds. No jail time, just smaller tax refunds. [link to www.usatoday.com] Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 12/08/2013 12:51 PM Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51248181 Netherlands 12/08/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consistent with general worldview of American government. More prisoners per capita than even the most corrupt totalitarian regimes in the world. The for-profit prison industry in the US combines all the repression of societ-style gulags with the entrepreneurial spirit of American capitalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33509203 And there is a rise in Canadians masturbating in public so what's your point? |
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/08/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Jack Wrightnsee Exactly...you don't have to be a Muslim, but if you're not, you have to pay the tax... It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay that tax. So what happens if you say you're a Muslim? That's not a way out I guess because they they have a whole bunch of expectations or else you get killed? Well if you're a Muslim you're exempt from Obamacare, the rest of that shit they hung around their own neck... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/08/2013 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The penalties in the ACA are taken out of people's tax refunds. Quoting: Instant Karma No jail time, just smaller tax refunds. [link to www.usatoday.com] That's what we used to think. Guess it's another instance of the news media sweet talking this thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/08/2013 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly...you don't have to be a Muslim, but if you're not, you have to pay the tax... It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay that tax. So what happens if you say you're a Muslim? That's not a way out I guess because they they have a whole bunch of expectations or else you get killed? Well if you're a Muslim you're exempt from Obamacare, the rest of that shit they hung around their own neck... You're not following me, I am suggesting "we" become "they". If we declared ourselves to be Muslim ... so what? Could we then go on with our lives the way we want? Muslim is just a word. "There is no God but God." is a pretty generic statement that anyone who believes in a "God" can make. |
Kirk User ID: 49863729 United States 12/08/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The penalties in the ACA are taken out of people's tax refunds. Quoting: Instant Karma No jail time, just smaller tax refunds. [link to www.usatoday.com] That's what we used to think. Guess it's another instance of the news media sweet talking this thing. you gotta be an idiot letting them hold your money interest free. I never have a refund. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |