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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45904723 United States 12/08/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... Fuck you, you ignorant dolt! There are subsidies for those with low income, children, etc. So being part of the "working poor" is no excuse for not buying insurance. The poor can also apply for Medicaid. No excuse for anyone to not have health insurance. |
waterlily User ID: 48755735 United States 12/08/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a burden on society is an opinion. Quoting: --Voltaic-- They need to prove, every penny, where the person in question committed any crime or theft. Not purchasing an item or service is not a crime. What if a person never goes to the doctors or the hospitals and doesn't buy insurance? They certainly are not a burden. So many loop holes it isn't funny. I trust Mother Nature, Karma and social powers will remove Obammy from office soon. Propaganda bubble will burst soon. When people become immune to the rhetoric from those in power. What if you're a billionaire who pays cash for all medical expenses. When you check into the hospital you give them your American Express Black Card and they just charge it all to that. Why the fuck would a rich person need health insurance? Rich people have loopholes and exemptions and friends in hi places *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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waterlily User ID: 48755735 United States 12/08/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... Fuck you, you ignorant dolt! There are subsidies for those with low income, children, etc. So being part of the "working poor" is no excuse for not buying insurance. The poor can also apply for Medicaid. No excuse for anyone to not have health insurance. That is BS. A poor person is poor, That means that even with a subsidy he will be hard put to pay for it. Even a reduced premium does not fit into a starvation budget. You guys just don't get it. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/08/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOBODY has their health care subsidized by other people. THE GOVERNMENT does that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32910795 other people are your tax base fool. Bet you voted for O. They're convinced that somehow all the money and material benefits they get from the Government are "Free". What can be better for a slave master than a slave that refuses to acknowledge he or she is a slave... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51248181 Netherlands 12/08/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a burden on society is an opinion. Quoting: --Voltaic-- They need to prove, every penny, where the person in question committed any crime or theft. Not purchasing an item or service is not a crime. What if a person never goes to the doctors or the hospitals and doesn't buy insurance? They certainly are not a burden. So many loop holes it isn't funny. I trust Mother Nature, Karma and social powers will remove Obammy from office soon. Propaganda bubble will burst soon. When people become immune to the rhetoric from those in power. What if you're a billionaire who pays cash for all medical expenses. When you check into the hospital you give them your American Express Black Card and they just charge it all to that. Why the fuck would a rich person need health insurance? Rich people have loopholes and exemptions and friends in hi places That's what welfare recipients think you have as an average citizen. |
waterlily User ID: 48755735 United States 12/08/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our local police departments are buying tanks and armored cars, they already have swat teams...even if everyone of us had a hand gun and rifle, we are no match for the heavy armor the police have. Quoting: davvi You're thinking in defensive terms. Don't. There is no defense against something like the Knockout Game, only using handguns instead of fists. There was a time when I thought the next election will straighten this all out...after the last election I gave up on that. I don't trust most of our government agencies to do the right thing anymore...hell if my local librarian was laying in the street needing help I would spit on her as I stepped over her... Those are harsh words, Davvi... *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 48439413 United States 12/08/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, if I refuse to go to jail, does that mean they are willing to shoot me over not buying into obamacare? Quoting: R.P. McMurphy DHS bought a billion rounds enough said. Well... it's been fun. Lets Rock 'n Roll! "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51241571 United States 12/08/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I think should happen is this: If someone is over the age of 18 and and cannot pay for medical treatment either through insurance s/he has bought and/or one's own private funds (self, spouse, immediate family member, employer, or anyone else who chooses to voluntarily pay for the treatment), then medical treatment should simply be denied. However, possible exceptions to this could be made for people who truly cannot work or afford to buy insurance through no fault of their own, such as by having a severe and "real" (provable) disability of some kind. If any adult knows that s/he might have to, for example, live with the misery of an untreated broken leg because they did not plan ahead for an unforeseen health problem, then, in my view, they deserve that misery -- although, I would hope that emergency "free clinics" would continue for REAL emergencies such as the aforementioned broken leg! -- and that these clinics would be funded by medical personnel doing pro bono work, charitable organizations, and individual benefactors. Either that, or there could be emergency funds available through such organizations as The United Way for (to repeat) TRUE emergencies. I am simply sick of my taxes being used to support lazy, lifelong "welfare trash" who do nothing but abuse substances, watch TV, and/or have baby after baby who grow up to be just like their parents. I do not WANT to pay for those people getting treatment at hospital ER's for runny noses and low fevers -- OR to pay for more expensive treatments for them, which can run into tens of thousands of dollars. And, btw, I am EQUALLY against paying for medical treatment for those who CAN afford insurance and/or to pay for their medical treatment, but refuse to do so out of "principle". What kind of principles do these people have when they are content to let others support them when they are perfectly capable of supporting themselves?! (Btw, I am also against government assistance of any kind to those people. Maybe if people KNEW that the government, "courtesy" of those responsible adults who work and DO pay taxes, people would not be so eager to be on the dole -- or at least not be so complacent about it!) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44520687 United States 12/08/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is going to mandate the jail time? Congress? No, so it would have to be Ovomit by executive order. Quoting: Hardwired The IRS has "discretionary" enforcement directives. It is likely they will wait until 2015 to really begin to aggressively enforce Obamacare. They don't need any new legislation, or executive orders, all the power they will ever need is cleverly worded in the thousands of pages of the ACA which is LAW now. |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 48439413 United States 12/08/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... The only words I have for this shitbag will get me banned. Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 12/08/2013 02:12 PM "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Hardwired User ID: 49839943 United States 12/08/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all would appear to have a double standard when it comes to being forced to buy a product. How long have you been being forced to buy car insurance, or forefit the right to travel. So now you are being forced to buy health insurance or face fines and or jail time. Quoting: talkstory The constitution guarantees you the right to travel in your personal vehicle absent registration or insurance. Now I'll just wait for the hate posts. Of two minds much. lol You are not required to by "car insurance" per se. If you operate a motor vehicle, you must carry "liability insurance" which protects others from damages or injuries you might cause with your vehicle. You can purchase "car insurance"--comprehensive or collision coverage which insures your vehicle against theft or damage--but that is up to you. |
Sobriquet User ID: 42032529 United States 12/08/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hungarians stormed parliament, burned some of the rooms and rioted when one of our former prime ministers was caught lying. Quoting: Zugzwang 51081487 Who are these American pussies? What have these people done to you to make you such cowards? Waiting it out? Seeing what happens? Maybe God will swoop in and save your country? haha. Maybe that's it. So many religious fools think God will save them, thus they do NOTHING. Sad sad sad So. As I suspected he is pushing us into a Civil War on purpose. Martial Law, camps, EOs and bam, he remains President/Dictator. I'm wondering the same thing myself! They castrated our men. It is likely the fact they've poisoned us to stupidity with chemtrails among other things. Most are truly unaware of the brain damage we are being handed. You seem to forget they took God out of our country almost literally. Few of our youth are religious. I state right here that I refuse to be forced into this government disaster. I reckon here is where they break out the camps. So be it. And btw Obama whatever your real name is: God does exist and He is coming with great wrath to settle up with you. You are nearly out of time. Your bunker is not deep enough. I agree with every word Lisa. I say bring it already. See you in the camps if I live that long. (prison for not paying for health insurance, you can't make this shit up!). Hungary is a tiny nation with very limited resources. You can't compare Hungary with the USA. Organizing any kind of uprising would be very difficult here in the USA. The CIA, FBI, Homeland Security and the other blood sucking, demonically controlled agencies will never allow you to gather long enough to overthrow them. Guns are useless against them. They know everything they need to know about you and you know absolutely nothing about them. They have indeed brainwashed the masses for decades through our public school systems, academia, corporate ladder climbing, "greed is good" mantra, subliminal messaging, misdirection, propaganda, Hollywood, etc...... They have poisoned us and indoctrinated us to accept that life is the way they say it is. If you want to keep your job, benefits, pensions and lifestyle you better sit down and shut up. When you rock the boat you will likely end up dead or worse where you are no help to anyone. It's like they are raping our children and forcing us to watch while saying they will kill you and your family if you "try anything stupid". In effect they are forcing us to "watch" this play out knowing full well that they have everything covered and we can do little besides take out a tiny article on the 3rd page of the local paper or have a say in a "Letter to the Editor" that few will read and fewer will care about. Their time is short so they are accelerating the process while we just stand on the side of the road and watch them parade in front of us. And I'm talking about us here on GLP and a few other sites that even have a clue. The rest of the sheep are too busy staring at their phones or "chasing the dream" not knowing the nightmare to come. They don't even know there's a parade going on. I've had a few well meaning folks here call me a pussy for this type of comment. But just what are we going to do? Grab a gun or two and run out the door screaming and shooting? Have a group of us storm the local government offices and start making demands? How about we all arm ourselves and head off to Washington? Think about it. Even if we were meeting behind closed doors and planning our moves they would easily find out because they monitor everything just like Santa Claus. Where's the funding for this revolution going to come from? Drones and weapons yet to be revealed are at their disposal. We have pea shooters. You cannot defeat evil. You can only pray to be delivered from it. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 12/08/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... Fuck you, you ignorant dolt! There are subsidies for those with low income, children, etc. So being part of the "working poor" is no excuse for not buying insurance. The poor can also apply for Medicaid. No excuse for anyone to not have health insurance. Except this used to be a FREE country where having "insurance" was a choice (don't even bother mentioning car insurance). But now our "choices" have become mandatory and just another source of tax revenue for this out of control government... |
Sobriquet User ID: 42032529 United States 12/08/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, if I refuse to go to jail, does that mean they are willing to shoot me over not buying into obamacare? Quoting: R.P. McMurphy Yes. You will then become a domestic terrorist with ZERO rights. That gives them the right to shoot you on the spot or send you away indefinitely. This is not your fathers USA. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
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Hardwired User ID: 49839943 United States 12/08/2013 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consistent with general worldview of American government. More prisoners per capita than even the most corrupt totalitarian regimes in the world. The for-profit prison industry in the US combines all the repression of societ-style gulags with the entrepreneurial spirit of American capitalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33509203 True that. The Amurkin Empire has more citizens per capita in prison, probation, jail than the USSR did in the time of Stalin. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 12/08/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our local police departments are buying tanks and armored cars, they already have swat teams...even if everyone of us had a hand gun and rifle, we are no match for the heavy armor the police have. Quoting: davvi You're thinking in defensive terms. Don't. There is no defense against something like the Knockout Game, only using handguns instead of fists. There was a time when I thought the next election will straighten this all out...after the last election I gave up on that. I don't trust most of our government agencies to do the right thing anymore...hell if my local librarian was laying in the street needing help I would spit on her as I stepped over her... Those are harsh words, Davvi... It's early, and I haven't even gotten cranked up yet... :813 Wink cat: |
roadkyll User ID: 41674082 United States 12/08/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What idiots.the interview was before anything passed.if your poor your subsidized.if you don't buy your fined it you don't pay that you will owe right out of your tax rebate if not that you owe .no jail you paranoid pussies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51248181 Netherlands 12/08/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What idiots.the interview was before anything passed.if your poor your subsidized.if you don't buy your fined it you don't pay that you will owe right out of your tax rebate if not that you owe .no jail you paranoid pussies. Quoting: roadkyll 41674082 So you read the whole bill, something which Congress didn't? That makes you the smartest, sagging pants, low information voter there is. |
Sobriquet User ID: 42032529 United States 12/08/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... There will be people who will hunt people like you down when SHTF and put a bullet in your head on general principle. Don't be too hard on him. He's most likely been drinking a lot of water from the tap. It's not his fault. he's been drugged and brainwashed. Unfortunately he is typical of those who are Ocare tards. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 12/08/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What idiots.the interview was before anything passed.if your poor your subsidized.if you don't buy your fined it you don't pay that you will owe right out of your tax rebate if not that you owe .no jail you paranoid pussies. Quoting: roadkyll 41674082 If it is that simple then why couldn't he say so? What happens if you don't pay your taxes? You go to jail and if you think that jail isn't somewhere down the line as part of democrapcare then you don't know anything about our Federal out control government... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32161701 United States 12/08/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... What a warm piece of dung you are |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51248181 Netherlands 12/08/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... There will be people who will hunt people like you down when SHTF and put a bullet in your head on general principle. Don't be too hard on him. He's most likely been drinking a lot of water from the tap. It's not his fault. he's been drugged and brainwashed. Unfortunately he is typical of those who are Ocare tards. I forget how susceptible the lesser of the species are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34104390 United States 12/08/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they better get busy building new prisons. how much will that cost? lets see, 3 meals a day, room service, full medical benefits. sounds good to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49649437 Actually, when everyone is down and out in this country and the malls start closing by the hundreds, they will use those. And the Big Box stores too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45904723 United States 12/08/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... There will be people who will hunt people like you down when SHTF and put a bullet in your head on general principle. |
BunBun User ID: 47029633 United States 12/08/2013 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FREE RIDE THE SYSTEM??? Fuck you Obama, the systems been free riding on the backs of all the hard working Americans since 1913. Give me the fruits of my labor back (income tax) and I will be able to afford any doctors bills I incur Death to the insurance companies!!!! That's how they are going to try to shame people into buying their bullshit insurance. They are going to claim you are riding for free when you are in fact, paying cash for your medical care. Christard and Lover of God |