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InTheHood User ID: 29587186 United States 12/08/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some months ago, I posted on here how we are never going to see obamacare fully enacted. Quoting: R.P. McMurphy I still stand by that prediction. It was never meant to be fully implemented. Obamacare has two purposes, to destroy America's health care system, and to control the people. They figured out long ago that the only way to bring in socialized medicine, was to destroy what we have now. Look at the stats now. 90% of everyone who's being enrolled in Obamacare, are being put onto Medicaid. Which is a system that is already overburdened and ready to collapse. They have plans for us, plans which they dare not speak in public because we are cattle and not people to them. ***This*** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/08/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If people who can afford insurance don't buy it and choose to be a burden on the rest of society... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46648385 Yeah right, what about people who could get a job that just get welfare instead that are a burden on the rest of society! There are A LOT of working people on welfare right now. It is impossible to make ends meet. Add obamacare on top of this, and it is going to send most people down the shitter. There is no way for this to work, I don't care what subsidies they get, it won't be enough. |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 48439413 United States 12/08/2013 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not force healthcare into a 100% free system through taxing the fuck out of the rich? No one goes to jail then. Quoting: krosty Says the guy who wants $15 an hour for flipping burgers... or did you already get fired from that job? $15 should be around minimum wage. You go flip burgers and enjoy getting all the grease in your face for less than $15 an hour. I am underpaid at $19.34 with full benefits to sort boxes and wouldn't have the benefits or even minimum wage without the union. I have been at my job 8 years. I've filed over 200 grievances and they hate me, that's how corrupt these companies are and need to been kept in check by the unions. Something tells me that's not the only place... Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 12/08/2013 07:52 PM "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 48439413 United States 12/08/2013 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awww... I hurt poor little krosty's feelings.. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/08/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All your bitching and whining on the internet is for nothing. When the time comes, you'll line up like the rest of the sheeple, grumble under your breath and pay the money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51111968 No, actually I won't. I don't have the money. I haven't even so much as opened up the marketplace site. I'm going on about my life, working my under the table pay job, not paying taxes. They will have a difficult time tracking me. When I lost my job last year thanks to obamcare, I decided to fight back by going under the radar. I get to keep my money now, and I don't have to deal with the bullshit. |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 48439413 United States 12/08/2013 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All your bitching and whining on the internet is for nothing. When the time comes, you'll line up like the rest of the sheeple, grumble under your breath and pay the money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51111968 No, actually I won't. I don't have the money. I haven't even so much as opened up the marketplace site. I'm going on about my life, working my under the table pay job, not paying taxes. They will have a difficult time tracking me. When I lost my job last year thanks to obamcare, I decided to fight back by going under the radar. I get to keep my money now, and I don't have to deal with the bullshit. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1207243 United States 12/08/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291 Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part. Obamacare has been ruled a TAX by the SCOTUS. The force of the government can be used to come down on people who refuse to pay taxes. We see it time and time again. People are in jail now for tax evasion. Eventually, you will pay...one way or another. So much for living in a free nation, right? How can you tax something that you do not purchase. If you tax income i can still not work and then I pay no tax. But this is like taxing people who don't work to force them to work which is just slavery if you think about it. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 12/08/2013 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All your bitching and whining on the internet is for nothing. When the time comes, you'll line up like the rest of the sheeple, grumble under your breath and pay the money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51111968 No, actually I won't. I don't have the money. I haven't even so much as opened up the marketplace site. I'm going on about my life, working my under the table pay job, not paying taxes. They will have a difficult time tracking me. When I lost my job last year thanks to obamcare, I decided to fight back by going under the radar. I get to keep my money now, and I don't have to deal with the bullshit. I called this many moons ago. Huge black market in "under the table" pay will open up. You cannot FORCE people to pay for something they don't want, or penalize them for not buying it. People will BY NECESSITY find ways around this government fascism. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 12/08/2013 08:38 PM |
missy4tane User ID: 49260691 United States 12/08/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... Fuck you, you ignorant dolt! There are subsidies for those with low income, children, etc. So being part of the "working poor" is no excuse for not buying insurance. The poor can also apply for Medicaid. No excuse for anyone to not have health insurance. I may be working poor but that is not why I refuse to sign up. I will not sign up because I will not be part of this socialist designed government program. I will not give them my bank account number. My father fought to keep this country for the free. I will be damned if I sign up for something that is the downfall to the freedoms that I hold dear. I applaud our service men and women. I cry at our National Anthem. I bleed red, white, and blue. FUCK OBAMA!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/08/2013 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there's free health care in prison, along with the free room and board. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46285418 "A growing prison population has increased Justice Department spending on the federal prison system from just over $5 billion in fiscal year 2008 to nearly $7 billion today." "The current budget of $6.9 billion allots $2.5 billion for inmate programs, including $65.7 million for “psychology services,” $115.5 million for drug treatment, and $435 million for food services." [link to freebeacon.com] Each state will have to build more prisons to house all of the health care law breakers. As it is, most all prisons are over crowded, at least the ones in California are. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/08/2013 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've called several insurance companies to get health insurance and every time I get denied because I'm on a doctor-prescribed narcotic pain medicine. I have no health insurance and I can't get any. In order to get coverage they say I have to be off my medicine for 12 months. I have and bone disease that REQUIRES pain medication in order to function day to day. I can't go off of it for a year. Quoting: Oodem Get them on the internet. Bypass all that bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/09/2013 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Obama's new sales pitch to young adults. Trying to tell them the cost of health insurance is the same as their data plan for the cell phone or their monthly internet expenses and they should buy it to be responsible and its cheap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1456476 This reminds me of those and/or commercials. These young adults don't have enough to have their phones/internet AND the health insurance. They have enough for phones/internet OR health insurance. Guess which one they will choose. He's not going to be able to get all of the young and healthy to sign up for a plan, so he will do the next best thing, implement jail time in order to bully them into it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50344056 United States 12/09/2013 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait...so he says people who pay for their insurance shouldn't have to pay for those who hose to take advantage and free ride on those who do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51146193 What about all the millns of parasites taking a free ride (food stamps. welfare, etc) on those who work? He mentions taking responsibility for ourselves. But never does he mention taking responsibility for ourselves when discussing welfare, or all his own personal scandals They are already talking about cutting SNAP benefits back again after the new year. They are going to keep cutting until it's gone. Obama hates the poor. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 12/09/2013 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Obama's new sales pitch to young adults. Trying to tell them the cost of health insurance is the same as their data plan for the cell phone or their monthly internet expenses and they should buy it to be responsible and its cheap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1456476 This reminds me of those and/or commercials. These young adults don't have enough to have their phones/internet AND the health insurance. They have enough for phones/internet OR health insurance. Guess which one they will choose. He's not going to be able to get all of the young and healthy to sign up for a plan, so he will do the next best thing, implement jail time in order to bully them into it. Good luck putting 80-90% of USA in jail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46602739 United States 12/09/2013 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait...so he says people who pay for their insurance shouldn't have to pay for those who hose to take advantage and free ride on those who do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51146193 What about all the millns of parasites taking a free ride (food stamps. welfare, etc) on those who work? He mentions taking responsibility for ourselves. But never does he mention taking responsibility for ourselves when discussing welfare, or all his own personal scandals They are already talking about cutting SNAP benefits back again after the new year. They are going to keep cutting until it's gone. Obama hates the poor. They declined my SNAP benefits in Florida because they said I made too much money. I make $9000 a year working part time. I have been sick and could not get disability so I found a part time job and they asked for my last 2 pay stubs. Declined within 2 days. I work 25 hours a week for $11 an hour. In obamaworld, he makes it easier for people NOT to work. Everything is upside down in his world.. I was shocked when this happened. Imagine what happens when the Wal-Mart crowd gets cut off. Riots? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/09/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50558796 So what happens if you say you're a Muslim? That's not a way out I guess because they they have a whole bunch of expectations or else you get killed? Well if you're a Muslim you're exempt from Obamacare, the rest of that shit they hung around their own neck... You're not following me, I am suggesting "we" become "they". If we declared ourselves to be Muslim ... so what? Could we then go on with our lives the way we want? Muslim is just a word. "There is no God but God." is a pretty generic statement that anyone who believes in a "God" can make. ^^^ Prime example of no balls. I hope you are the first one into the camp. How dare you tell us to conform to this dictatorship by becoming a Muslim? As I said, as far as I know, I wouldn't have to conform to anything. If I have to pray 5 times a day toward Mecca and follow Sharia law or else something happens to me, then it's no deal. I do have balls. But I also have brains. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/09/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Well if you're a Muslim you're exempt from Obamacare, the rest of that shit they hung around their own neck... You're not following me, I am suggesting "we" become "they". If we declared ourselves to be Muslim ... so what? Could we then go on with our lives the way we want? Muslim is just a word. "There is no God but God." is a pretty generic statement that anyone who believes in a "God" can make. ^^^ Prime example of no balls. I hope you are the first one into the camp. How dare you tell us to conform to this dictatorship by becoming a Muslim? As I said, as far as I know, I wouldn't have to conform to anything. If I have to pray 5 times a day toward Mecca and follow Sharia law or else something happens to me, then it's no deal. I do have balls. But I also have brains. By the way, if your name is Lisa, you have no balls! If you're going to be vulgar, at least be appropriate, dear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/09/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would be a real problem, incarcerating healthy intelligent men and women who aren't even addicted to drugs. These people have no weaknesses and they are smart. Generally jails are for the people stupid enough to get caught. Even those guys with big muscles you see in the penitentiary (it's sort of scary driving past the prison at Florence AZ, they look like all body builders) don't escape because they aren't clever enough. If you start throwing lots of 25 year old engineers in jail, they will work out how to get out. |
Ms. Superduper User ID: 46155084 United States 12/09/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait...so he says people who pay for their insurance shouldn't have to pay for those who hose to take advantage and free ride on those who do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51146193 What about all the millns of parasites taking a free ride (food stamps. welfare, etc) on those who work? He mentions taking responsibility for ourselves. But never does he mention taking responsibility for ourselves when discussing welfare, or all his own personal scandals They are already talking about cutting SNAP benefits back again after the new year. They are going to keep cutting until it's gone. Obama hates the poor. ...hates the poor... hates everyone... probably hates himself, and in moments of possible lucidity, wonders how he got himself into this illuminati slavery (and no, that was not meant as pity for him). Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~ User ID: 29333438 United States 12/09/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you would rather imprison them at a cost to taxpayers of thousands of dollars a year, and put their families on welfare, all because they refuse to be forced to buy something they either don't want or can't afford? Yeah, that'll lesson the burden on society. Quoting: Revbo™ Bite me, you Kenyan commie bastard. THIS^^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50558796 United States 12/09/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would be a real problem, incarcerating healthy intelligent men and women who aren't even addicted to drugs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50558796 These people have no weaknesses and they are smart. Generally jails are for the people stupid enough to get caught. Even those guys with big muscles you see in the penitentiary (it's sort of scary driving past the prison at Florence AZ, they look like all body builders) don't escape because they aren't clever enough. If you start throwing lots of 25 year old engineers in jail, they will work out how to get out. bump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51298159 United States 12/09/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with imprisoning those who do not buy health insurance. They are being selfish and being a burden on the rest of us who are trying to be responsible and do what's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45904723 You can do the right thing and buy health insurance in the ACA marketplace, or you can go to prison and have healthcare provided for you there. I think most smart people would just buy the insurance ... Fuck you, you ignorant dolt! There are subsidies for those with low income, children, etc. So being part of the "working poor" is no excuse for not buying insurance. The poor can also apply for Medicaid. No excuse for anyone to not have health insurance. Those subsidies are for the illegals not for legal US citizens and how do I know this I own a small business that doesn't make much at all. Was curious one day and filled out a welfare form with medicaid, came back rejected because I own a business no matter how much I make a year the fact remained I own a business that can't afford insurance and I'm legal...Oh yes I pay taxes!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46648385 United States 12/09/2013 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can not force someone to buy a product if they don't want to. This goes against every thing a free society stands for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51109291 Obamacare is not constitutional on many grounds and I will not take part. Obamacare has been ruled a TAX by the SCOTUS. The force of the government can be used to come down on people who refuse to pay taxes. We see it time and time again. People are in jail now for tax evasion. Eventually, you will pay...one way or another. So much for living in a free nation, right? You can call a turd a donut but it doesn't make it so. |