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MINISTERS MISS Obamas end of year deadline For TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP "TPP" internet killing trade agreement..TALKS TO RESUME NEXT MONTH

 
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MINISTERS MISS Obamas end of year deadline For TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP "TPP" internet killing trade agreement..TALKS TO RESUME NEXT MONTH
Talks on forming a huge US-led Pacific free trade area will resume next month after the 12 prospective members gave up on meeting Washington's year-end deadline for a deal.

US Trade Representative Michael Froman and his counterparts said they made "substantial progress" after four days of talks in Singapore on the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) but failed to resolve all issues.

"We have decided to continue our intensive work in the coming weeks toward such an agreement," Froman said, reading a joint statement by the trade ministers.

"Following additional work by negotiators, we intend to meet again next month," said the statement, which capped secretive talks denounced by activists as a US attempt to railroad a deal.

The TPP is being negotiated by Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States and Vietnam.

They make up 40 percent of the global economy and other countries may join the pact later.

The ministers had arrived in Singapore from the just-concluded World Trade Organisation talks on the Indonesian island of Bali.

President Barack Obama has hailed the TPP as a centrepiece of renewed US engagement in Asia, saying it contains market-opening commitments that go well beyond those in other free-trade accords.

The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

But the complexity of the issues already caused negotiators to miss the original 2012 deadline set by Obama to reach a deal.

They have been divided on a number of issues, including opening up Japan's auto and farm markets, government procurement and limiting the role of state-owned enterprises - said by some countries to distort competition.

Patent issues - in par [link to www.abc.net.au]
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Nothing to see here, move along...

We'll pass it during the Superbowl.
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Nothing to see here, move along...

We'll pass it during the Superbowl.
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Maybe but this is a trade agreement' since the leaders from other countries have not come to an agreement yet their is no agreement for the US to sign...or THEY DO AND THIS ARTICLE IS A SMOKE SCREEN


either way 1 month is no reprieve ..
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On the Japanese (English Version)news at noon .....they were interviewing a guy who said that there is a big problem for the Us...because they wanted a 10 year extension on intellectual property aka the drug companies and the emerging markets of eastern countries said no..so the reporter there in Thialand said that the momentum would mostly be gone by the time they are to talk in Jan.again... in simple terms. the eastern countries are not interested in this thing with the US..they were to arrogant with their demands....no one wants the fed monies.
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On the Japanese (English Version)news at noon .....they were interviewing a guy who said that there is a big problem for the Us...because they wanted a 10 year extension on intellectual property aka the drug companies and the emerging markets of eastern countries said no..so the reporter there in Thialand said that the momentum would mostly be gone by the time they are to talk in Jan.again... in simple terms. the eastern countries are not interested in this thing with the US..they were to arrogant with their demands....no one wants the fed monies.
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You mean Obamadollaz?
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@ssange leaked the tpp progress chart yesterday, showing exactly where the countries currently stand. i threaded it yesterday but im not allowed to link directly to wiki and we all know if there isnt a youtube video, or a provocative title nobody cares. thread was tpp leak round 2 if anyone wants to see the charts url
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Thread: tpp leak round 2
@ssange leaked the tpp progress chart yesterday, showing exactly where the countries currently stand. i threaded it yesterday but im not allowed to link directly to wiki and we all know if there isnt a youtube video, or a provocative title nobody cares. thread was tpp leak round 2 if anyone wants to see the charts url
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Awww, I sure hate that for our Usurper-in-chief...

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The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

If this thing passes China is going to move factories here and pollute us to death. Under the TPP they are exempt from our environmental laws.
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The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

If this thing passes China is going to move factories here and pollute us to death. Under the TPP they are exempt from our environmental laws.
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then it most likely falls in place with what this guy is saying.
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The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

If this thing passes China is going to move factories here and pollute us to death. Under the TPP they are exempt from our environmental laws.
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then it most likely falls in place with what this guy is saying.
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Thread: Global Currency Reset In the NEXT 90 DAYS???????...what do you think
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Lol I think Lindsey's been saying that since 1544 AD. :D
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The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

If this thing passes China is going to move factories here and pollute us to death. Under the TPP they are exempt from our environmental laws.
 Quoting: calx


then it most likely falls in place with what this guy is saying.
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Thread: Global Currency Reset In the NEXT 90 DAYS???????...what do you think
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Lol I think Lindsey's been saying that since 1544 AD. :D
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while his time lines have been off since his original contact died, there are many things i have learned from him since and another thing is he IS SWORN to only release some info, so sometimes he has his hands tied just to make sure he doesnt sever the tie forever, BUT..BUT ...BUT he does give clues as to what he really means without breaking that confidentiality of authenticity..

i still do trust him after 4 years of listening despite recent timeline shifts
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The TPP talks also cover areas not included in other pacts, such as the environment and labour standards.

If this thing passes China is going to move factories here and pollute us to death. Under the TPP they are exempt from our environmental laws.
 Quoting: calx


then it most likely falls in place with what this guy is saying.
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Thread: Global Currency Reset In the NEXT 90 DAYS???????...what do you think
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Lol I think Lindsey's been saying that since 1544 AD. :D
 Quoting: calx


while his time lines have been off since his original contact died, there are many things i have learned from him since and another thing is he IS SWORN to only release some info, so sometimes he has his hands tied just to make sure he doesnt sever the tie forever, BUT..BUT ...BUT he does give clues as to what he really means without breaking that confidentiality of authenticity..

i still do trust him after 4 years of listening despite recent timeline shifts
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Oh I definitely believe what he says. No one can make predictions though you're right. DOW 16,000 and PMs monkey-hammered for months and months? Watta fuck?! The dollar is gonna collapse it's inevitable.

But I'm still not going to buy his DVDs!! :D
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then it most likely falls in place with what this guy is saying.
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Thread: Global Currency Reset In the NEXT 90 DAYS???????...what do you think
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Lol I think Lindsey's been saying that since 1544 AD. :D
 Quoting: calx


while his time lines have been off since his original contact died, there are many things i have learned from him since and another thing is he IS SWORN to only release some info, so sometimes he has his hands tied just to make sure he doesnt sever the tie forever, BUT..BUT ...BUT he does give clues as to what he really means without breaking that confidentiality of authenticity..

i still do trust him after 4 years of listening despite recent timeline shifts
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Oh I definitely believe what he says. No one can make predictions though you're right. DOW 16,000 and PMs monkey-hammered for months and months? Watta fuck?! The dollar is gonna collapse it's inevitable.

But I'm still not going to buy his DVDs!! :D
 Quoting: calx


cruise ..,me neither
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Has Australia caved in on the Trans-Pacific Partnership?

There was mixed news from Singapore yesterday evening as the current negotiations over the Trans-Pacific Partnership broke up without agreement -- spoiling US hopes that a deal could be done before the end of 2013.

So far, so good, for what amounts to a remarkable attempt by the US government to impose draconian restrictions on intellectual property and the capacity of other governments to change policy, to suit US companies. But there are also reports that the Australian negotiating team, led by Trade and Investment Minister Andrew Robb, has caved in to US demands on intellectual property. Yesterday the US industry publication Washington Trade Daily told its subscribers, citing "participants familiar with proceedings", that:
"Australia, New Zealand and Canada, among others, dropped their objections to the high-standard disciplines in intellectual property and came on board by agreeing to the modified text. Effectively, there is consensus on the intellectual property dossier except for one developing country ..."

In fact the key debate on intellectual property, according to WTD, is no longer about resisting the demands of the US copyright cartel, but the transitional period for developing countries for the new requirements, with debate about how exactly the transition period will be measured for developing countries. "A final pact can be concluded after another two or three rounds," WTD reported.

If Australia and other key players have acceded to US demands on IP, this represents a potential nightmarish imposition of new restrictions on copyright and pharmaceuticals. The US is demanding an extension of the already absurd 70 years copyright protection (basically designed to protect Mickey Mouse) and the criminalisation of filesharing and the requirement for ISPs to surveil their customers to enforce copyright, as well as extending protections for pharmaceutical companies to prevent the use of generic versions of medicines.

The report contrasts with evidence earlier this week via leaks to WikiLeaks and Huffington Post that Australia was holding the line on a number of the more draconian US copyright demands. "Australia in particular is standing firm," Forbes reported based on the leaked document.

Yesterday ministers reported "substantial progress" after four days of negotiations in Singapore that "identified potential 'landing zones' for the majority of key outstanding issues in the text", but there was no agreement. They will meet again in January. The US had been hoping for a treaty to be finalised by the end of this year. Any agricultural concessions the US makes (which are said to be driving Australia's willingness to accede to US copyright demands) will be sensitive the closer we get to US congressional elections in November.

The US has demanded that participating countries keep the draft text secret while providing US corporations and industry groups like the copyright cartel have been given full access to the text, much more so than US senators. Those requirements have been slavishly followed by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which has even excluded journalists from its pro forma "consultation" on the proposals. The government this week ruled out allowing the public, rather than corporations, to see the text before Andrew Robb signed up to it, meaning we may not know that Robb and DFAT have caved in on intellectual property until we've already signed on.

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I read the document as it stands now.....geeeeez, there are literally hundreds of provisions whose status is "under review"" or subject to change. If they bum-rush this thing through Congress as is, it will be grounds for impeachment and/or criminal prosecutions.
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hmmm, ok that gives us a little time

that's quite the name there, just who do you think you are?
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THATS WHY ITS NOT GONN AHAPPEN
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"@AnonOttawaawake: #StopFastTrackTPP will destroy many countries #TPP
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"@AnonOttawaawake: #StopFastTrackTPP analysis of WikiLeaks leaked #TPP text [link to t.co] #StopTheTPP
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