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COMET ISON is halfway between the Sun and Earth

 
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COMET ISON is halfway between the Sun and Earth

Don't do simple math of 12 days since Perihelion so 12 more days it will be here. ISON did a slingshot around the sun at a speed of 425,000 mph (684,000 kph). It is going far slower now, 124,000 mph (199,600k kph), so it's journey to just north of the Earth will take longer than the preceding 12 days. Comet ISON was traveling at 65,000 mph when it passed by Mars.


Comet ISON is still a comet. ISON is a mass of debris. ISON completely evaporated.

We've heard all of these put forth. Whatever is left of ISON is being tracked and it is halfway between the Sun and Earth.

SPEED AND DISTANCE OF ISON
[link to www.cometison2013.co.uk]



"Comet ISON was discovered on September 21st 2012 by Vitali Nevski and Artyom Novichonok, two Russian Astronomers of the ‘International Scientific Optical Network’. At the time of
discovery, ISON was over 584 million miles (6.29 AU) from the Sun."

"The discovery was made using the 0.4-meter (16 in) reflector of the International Scientific Optical Network (ISON) near Kislovodsk, Russia. Data processing was carried out by automated asteroid-discovery program CoLiTec. Precovery images by the Mount Lemmon Survey from 28 December 2011 and by Pan-STARRS from 28 January 2012 were quickly located. [This means images already taken BEFORE it was known to be a comet were located.] Follow-up observations were made on 22 September by a team from Remanzacco Observatory in Italy using the iTelescope network. The discovery was announced by the Minor Planet Center on 24 September. Observations by Swift in January 2013 suggested that Comet ISON's nucleus was around 5 kilometers (3 mi) in diameter. Later estimates were that the nucleus was only about 2 kilometers (1 mi) in diameter."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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"Looking towards the constellation of Triangulum (The Triangle), in the northern sky we see two very similar galaxies, named PGC 9074 and PGC 9071 located about 490 million light years from Earth."
[link to spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov]
NASA can see THIS and they can't see exactly what is left of ISON. Yes, lie to me more please.

OR THIS:

Image of Earth and Moon taken by NASA's Cassini spacecraft which is at Saturn.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
[link to www.nasa.gov]


NASA's HUBBLE Space Telescope
"The Hubble Space Telescope was deployed from the Space shuttle Discovery during STS-31 on April 25, 1990. Since then, there have been 5 servicing missions that continued to upgrade the telescope's scientific instruments and operational systems. Hubble reached a major milestone, its 20th anniversary in orbit, on April 24, 2010."

Images from Hubble:

"This Hubble photo is of a small portion of one of the largest-seen star-birth regions in the galaxy, the Carina Nebula. Towers of cool hydrogen laced with dust rise from the wall of the nebula. The pillar is also being pushed apart from within, as infant stars buried inside it fire off jets of gas that can be seen."Carina Nebula "lies at an estimated distance between 6,500 and 10,000 light years from Earth."
[link to asd.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to asd.gsfc.nasa.gov]

"This image of a pair of interacting galaxies called Arp 273 was released to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the launch of the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope. Arp 273 is a group of interacting galaxies, lying 300 million light years away in the constellation Andromeda."
[link to www.spacetelescope.org]

"Arp 148 is the staggering aftermath of an encounter between two galaxies, resulting in a ring-shaped galaxy and a long-tailed companion. The collision between the two parent galaxies produced a shockwave effect that first drew matter into the center and then caused it to propagate outwards in a ring. The elongated companion perpendicular to the ring suggests that Arp 148 is a unique snapshot of an ongoing
collision. Infrared observations reveal a strong obscuration region that appears as a dark dust lane across the nucleus in optical light. Arp 148 is nicknamed Mayall s object and is located in the constellation of Ursa Major, the Great Bear, approximately 500 million light-years away. This interacting pair of galaxies is included in Arp's catalog of peculiar galaxies as number 148. This image is part of a
large collection of 59 images of merging galaxies taken by the Hubble Space Telescope and released on the occasion of its 18th anniversary on 24th April 2008."
[link to commons.wikimedia.org]

BUT THEY CAN'T FIND ISON!!!!!!!



FUN FACTS:

Problem 2 – Suppose that Comet ISON continues to lose dust mass at the rate of 51,000 kg/minute as it travels to the orbit of Earth (93 million miles from the sun) at a speed of 13 miles/sec. How much mass will it lose, and what percentage of its total mass is this?


Problem 2 – Suppose that Comet ISON continues to lose dust mass at the rate of 51,000 kg/minute as it travels to the orbit of Earth (93 million miles from the sun) at a
speed of 13 miles/sec. How much mass will it lose, and what percentage of its total mass is this?

Answer: It travels from 460 million miles to 93 million miles covering a total of 460-93 = 367 million miles.

At a speed of 13 miles/sec, this takes 367,000,000/13 = 28 million seconds or 470,000 minutes.

At a rate of 51,000 kg/minute, it will loose M = 51,000 x 470,000 = 2.4x1010 kg.

This represents P = 100% x (2.4x1010/1.1x1016) = 0.0004% of the total mass!


[link to spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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The famous shot of ISON and Encke with Mercury and Earth on
November 20, 2013 is a FAKE or THAT IS NOT ISON!!!!



Notice carefully: Encke passed Earth TO the Sun Oct 17-Nov 21. ISON passed the Sun TO the Earth Nov 28-Dec 26. Encke reached Perihelion ONE WEEK before ISON.
[link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com]
[link to www.universetoday.com]

OK IF Encke went around the Sun 1 week before ISON, how the hell is this Encke in this vid at 3:00?

[link to www.youtube.com]


I'm not trying to debunk you Thor. That Stereo vid is wrong!! It's all over the web but it's impossible that is ISON with Encke.
At 3:00 is the famous ISON & Encke on Stereo on 11/20/2013. ISON passes up Encke. How is this possible if Encke goes around the Sun THE NEXT DAY?????? And ISON does not for another week??? Also, Encke has already passed the Earth on 10/17.

These are in order of perihelion.

.................. ORBIT........PERIHELION......EARTH
Comet Nevski UNKNOWN 10/29/2013<<<<12/18/2013
C/2013 V3 Nevski


Comet Encke 3.30 YEARS 11/21/2013<<<<10/17/2013
2P Encke
SIZE: 2.98 miles (4.8 km)


Comet ISON 582,000 Years 11/28/2013>>>>12/26/2013
C/2012 S1 ISON

Comet Panstarrs UNKNOWN 12/22/2013<<<<<12/2/2013
C/2012 A1 PanSTARRS


Comet Lovejoy 7,000 YEARS 12/22/2013<<<<11/19/2013
C/2013 R1 Lovejoy


Notice carefully above: Encke passed Earth TO the Sun Oct 17-Nov 21. ISON passed the Sun TO the Earth Nov 28-Dec 26.
ISON is the ONLY comet going >>> to the Sun.

"The MESSENGER spacecraft in orbit around Mercury has spotted the well-known short-period comet Encke as well as the much-anticipated comet ISON. Both comets will reach perihelion later this month within a week of each other, Encke will reach its perihelion on Nov. 21; ISON on Nov. 28."
[link to www.universetoday.com]


"Last chance to spot Comet Encke (2P/Encke) before it reaches perihelion....until it peaks at about magnitude +7.1 just before perihelion (Nov. 21st)."
[link to freestarcharts.com]


Novemeber 20 to November 28, 2013
Looky here what I found!! Comet ISON in Stereo Ahead HI1A. Someone explain how Encke is in this when it is supposed to be AT THE SUN FOR PERIHELION ON NOV 21!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



I originally found it here: [link to www.planetary.org]

Last Edited by ~~**lisa**~~ on 12/11/2013 12:05 PM
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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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Anyone have clear enough skies in the past few days?
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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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Why are they still tracking it? There are several other threads, one shows ISON going through Lovejoy's tail.

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Wow! Thanks OP! I knew it was 55 M. miles away, but I didn't realize until you pointed it out that it's such a big fraction of the total distance!

Something HUGE is coming!

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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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No. Just cloaked.

Or they are just lying to us.

Why else did NASA and all those other websites and cameras etc. close down?
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Wow! Thanks OP! I knew it was 55 M. miles away, but I didn't realize until you pointed it out that it's such a big fraction of the total distance!

Something HUGE is coming!

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thanks from me too OP.
Now is the time.
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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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Why are they still tracking it? There are several other threads, one shows ISON going through Lovejoy's tail.
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Indeed if its not there, why are they still looking for it? Or more appropriately, why are they giving us the impression that they are still looking for it?

Is it for plausible deniability? Is it to keep the matter open-ended? Is it to cover their backs if/when something shows up in our skies soon? And they will say "ha, that is the remnants of ISON".

5 stars and a karma for your images and thought provocation.

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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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Why are they still tracking it? There are several other threads, one shows ISON going through Lovejoy's tail.
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Indeed if its not there, why are they still looking for it? Or more appropriately, why are they giving us the impression that they are still looking for it?

Is it for plausible deniability? Is it to keep the matter open-ended? Is it to cover their backs if/when something shows up in our skies soon? And they will say "ha, that is the remnants of ISON".

5 stars and a karma for your images and thought provocation.
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Good data...thanks...
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Nice thread, five stars.
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The images are interesting to me, especially when you take into account that Comet ISON was 2 1/2 times further away from that particular satellite when the images were captured.

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They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON
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Anyone have clear enough skies in the past few days?
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Let me remind you of one thing: Soooo close to the Sun!
Ison got roasted and sunburned and as everything that is grilled that heavy Ison is black as coal now. Does not reflect Sun light and that is why we cannot see Ison.
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This guy took a picture where ISON should be, but with no luck...


[link to spaceweathergallery.com]
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SkyLive is still tracking it also and says it is the same distance from earth as NASA. Who owns this?

[link to theskylive.com]


This also says ISON's brightness is 5.03 Magnitude and decreasing.


They are still tracking it here also:

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]


Data for December 3, 2013:

0.430597325537957 AU = 64,416,443 kilometers = 40,026,521 miles

Last Edited by ~~**lisa**~~ on 12/11/2013 10:15 AM
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This guy took a picture where ISON should be, but with no luck...


[link to spaceweathergallery.com]
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Because it's changed orbit has it speeding through a completely different area of space.
Time to depart this earthly vehicle...
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Ignacio Ferrin is hinting that Comet ISON's orbit has changed -

"Hi all:
At perihelion this comet experience large non-gravitational forces
that may have change the orbit slightly. So maybe the reason why
the comet is not being found is that that is not the correct orbit. I
would advice to make a wide angle seach aound the predicted
position. Fast systems will be favoured."

Ignacio
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Nothing will happen ISON-TARDS!!

Remember Elenin or NIbiru???

Waste your time with government funded distractions if you like..

Meanwhile in the real world............
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Current tracking:

[link to theskylive.com]



5.03 Magnitude


As you see, many sites are still tracking ISON. They give it an orbit, speed, distance from Earth and a Magnitude. This is all current data. I'm having a very hard time putting ISON in a grave with the dead like some are reporting it to be.

Last Edited by ~~**lisa**~~ on 12/11/2013 10:30 AM
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This one is still up and running as well -


Comet 2012 S1 (ISON) Geocentric Distance


Real-time Distance Calculator


Local Time:

Thu Dec 12 2013 02:34:46 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)

Universal Time:

Wed Dec 11 15:34:46 UTC 2013


Julian Day:

2456638.14914


Earth-Comet Distance:

0.5362 AU
49,845,082 miles



Sun-Comet Distance:

0.5919 AU
55,020,356 miles



Comet Velocity:

33.95 miles/second

Light Time:
4.46 minutes


[link to www.physics.emory.edu]
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This guy took a picture where ISON should be, but with no luck...


[link to spaceweathergallery.com]
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Because it's changed orbit has it speeding through a completely different area of space.
 Quoting: The Lost~Soul


ohyeahapplause2

Things are going to be interesting. Now to go research some information on Comet ISON'S inbound leg of its journey. Do you know when it is closest to Venus on the post perihelion, outbound path?
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It won't be close to Venus. When Venus is lined up with Earth and the Sun, ISON will be nearby over Earth.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]



Video by Wal Thornhill of the Electric Comet theory specifically about Comet ISON since perihelion dated 12/8.


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Last Edited by ~~**lisa**~~ on 12/11/2013 10:54 AM
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This one is still up and running as well -


Comet 2012 S1 (ISON) Geocentric Distance


Real-time Distance Calculator


Local Time:

Thu Dec 12 2013 02:34:46 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)

Universal Time:

Wed Dec 11 15:34:46 UTC 2013


Julian Day:

2456638.14914


Earth-Comet Distance:

0.5362 AU
49,845,082 miles



Sun-Comet Distance:

0.5919 AU
55,020,356 miles



Comet Velocity:

33.95 miles/second

Light Time:
4.46 minutes


[link to www.physics.emory.edu]
 Quoting: The Lost~Soul


If, IF, the speed is correct & if it remains at that speed(I'd have to look up what it's inbound speed was, before it sped up & into its transit) then Comet ISON will travel, approx 36.7 million miles. We know that the orbital diagrams they provided are wrong, now we just need to figure out where it REALLY is, figure out its trajectory & when it will be closest to Venus, then...hmmm...was it the Moon & then Earth?, can't recall at the moment.
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