COMET ISON is halfway between the Sun and Earth | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46813305 United States 12/10/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The famous shot of ISON and Encke with Mercury and Earth on November 20, 2013 is a FAKE or THAT IS NOT ISON!!!! Notice carefully: Encke passed Earth TO the Sun Oct 17-Nov 21. ISON passed the Sun TO the Earth Nov 28-Dec 26. Encke reached Perihelion ONE WEEK before ISON. [link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com] [link to www.universetoday.com] OK IF Encke went around the Sun 1 week before ISON, how the hell is this Encke in this vid at 3:00? [link to www.youtube.com] I'm not trying to debunk you Thor. That Stereo vid is wrong!! It's all over the web but it's impossible that is ISON with Encke. At 3:00 is the famous ISON & Encke on Stereo on 11/20/2013. ISON passes up Encke. How is this possible if Encke goes around the Sun THE NEXT DAY?????? And ISON does not for another week??? Also, Encke has already passed the Earth on 10/17. These are in order of perihelion. .................. ORBIT........PERIHELION......EARTH Comet Nevski UNKNOWN 10/29/2013<<<<12/18/2013 C/2013 V3 Nevski Comet Encke 3.30 YEARS 11/21/2013<<<<10/17/2013 2P Encke SIZE: 2.98 miles (4.8 km) Comet ISON 582,000 Years 11/28/2013>>>>12/26/2013 C/2012 S1 ISON Comet Panstarrs UNKNOWN 12/22/2013<<<<<12/2/2013 C/2012 A1 PanSTARRS Comet Lovejoy 7,000 YEARS 12/22/2013<<<<11/19/2013 C/2013 R1 Lovejoy Notice carefully above: Encke passed Earth TO the Sun Oct 17-Nov 21. ISON passed the Sun TO the Earth Nov 28-Dec 26. ISON is the ONLY comet going >>> to the Sun. "The MESSENGER spacecraft in orbit around Mercury has spotted the well-known short-period comet Encke as well as the much-anticipated comet ISON. Both comets will reach perihelion later this month within a week of each other, Encke will reach its perihelion on Nov. 21; ISON on Nov. 28." [link to www.universetoday.com] "Last chance to spot Comet Encke (2P/Encke) before it reaches perihelion....until it peaks at about magnitude +7.1 just before perihelion (Nov. 21st)." [link to freestarcharts.com] Novemeber 20 to November 28, 2013 Looky here what I found!! Comet ISON in Stereo Ahead HI1A. Someone explain how Encke is in this when it is supposed to be AT THE SUN FOR PERIHELION ON NOV 21!!!!! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I originally found it here: [link to www.planetary.org] |
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Ohwell User ID: 48752980 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51367808 Why are they still tracking it? There are several other threads, one shows ISON going through Lovejoy's tail. Indeed if its not there, why are they still looking for it? Or more appropriately, why are they giving us the impression that they are still looking for it? Is it for plausible deniability? Is it to keep the matter open-ended? Is it to cover their backs if/when something shows up in our skies soon? And they will say "ha, that is the remnants of ISON". 5 stars and a karma for your images and thought provocation. Last Edited by Ohwell on 12/10/2013 10:25 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46813305 United States 12/10/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51367808 Why are they still tracking it? There are several other threads, one shows ISON going through Lovejoy's tail. Indeed if its not there, why are they still looking for it? Or more appropriately, why are they giving us the impression that they are still looking for it? Is it for plausible deniability? Is it to keep the matter open-ended? Is it to cover their backs if/when something shows up in our skies soon? And they will say "ha, that is the remnants of ISON". 5 stars and a karma for your images and thought provocation. Thanks! :Big Smile Smiley: |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 12/10/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice thread, five stars. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/11/2013 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The images are interesting to me, especially when you take into account that Comet ISON was 2 1/2 times further away from that particular satellite when the images were captured. [link to www.universetoday.com] I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51386875 Germany 12/11/2013 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can't find ISON because ISON evaporated, and there is no more ISON Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51367808 Anyone have clear enough skies in the past few days? Let me remind you of one thing: Soooo close to the Sun! Ison got roasted and sunburned and as everything that is grilled that heavy Ison is black as coal now. Does not reflect Sun light and that is why we cannot see Ison. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46813305 United States 12/11/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to theskylive.com] This also says ISON's brightness is 5.03 Magnitude and decreasing. They are still tracking it here also: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Data for December 3, 2013: 0.430597325537957 AU = 64,416,443 kilometers = 40,026,521 miles |
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The Lost~Soul User ID: 51385218 Australia 12/11/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignacio Ferrin is hinting that Comet ISON's orbit has changed - "Hi all: At perihelion this comet experience large non-gravitational forces that may have change the orbit slightly. So maybe the reason why the comet is not being found is that that is not the correct orbit. I would advice to make a wide angle seach aound the predicted position. Fast systems will be favoured." Ignacio ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [link to groups.yahoo.com] Time to depart this earthly vehicle... :Comet Lovejoy: |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46813305 United States 12/11/2013 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to theskylive.com] 5.03 Magnitude As you see, many sites are still tracking ISON. They give it an orbit, speed, distance from Earth and a Magnitude. This is all current data. I'm having a very hard time putting ISON in a grave with the dead like some are reporting it to be. |
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The Lost~Soul User ID: 51385218 Australia 12/11/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This one is still up and running as well - Comet 2012 S1 (ISON) Geocentric Distance Real-time Distance Calculator Local Time: Thu Dec 12 2013 02:34:46 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) Universal Time: Wed Dec 11 15:34:46 UTC 2013 Julian Day: 2456638.14914 Earth-Comet Distance: 0.5362 AU 49,845,082 miles Sun-Comet Distance: 0.5919 AU 55,020,356 miles Comet Velocity: 33.95 miles/second Light Time: 4.46 minutes [link to www.physics.emory.edu] Time to depart this earthly vehicle... :Comet Lovejoy: |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/11/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's changed orbit has it speeding through a completely different area of space. Things are going to be interesting. Now to go research some information on Comet ISON'S inbound leg of its journey. Do you know when it is closest to Venus on the post perihelion, outbound path? I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46813305 United States 12/11/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It won't be close to Venus. When Venus is lined up with Earth and the Sun, ISON will be nearby over Earth. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Video by Wal Thornhill of the Electric Comet theory specifically about Comet ISON since perihelion dated 12/8. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/11/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This one is still up and running as well - Quoting: The Lost~Soul Comet 2012 S1 (ISON) Geocentric Distance Real-time Distance Calculator Local Time: Thu Dec 12 2013 02:34:46 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) Universal Time: Wed Dec 11 15:34:46 UTC 2013 Julian Day: 2456638.14914 Earth-Comet Distance: 0.5362 AU 49,845,082 miles Sun-Comet Distance: 0.5919 AU 55,020,356 miles Comet Velocity: 33.95 miles/second Light Time: 4.46 minutes [link to www.physics.emory.edu] If, IF, the speed is correct & if it remains at that speed(I'd have to look up what it's inbound speed was, before it sped up & into its transit) then Comet ISON will travel, approx 36.7 million miles. We know that the orbital diagrams they provided are wrong, now we just need to figure out where it REALLY is, figure out its trajectory & when it will be closest to Venus, then...hmmm...was it the Moon & then Earth?, can't recall at the moment. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |