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How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"

 
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How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Listen to the end of Call 7; the s*** is hitting the fan; shots fired, cops running around, Rick having to keep calling back, and all the while more and more 911 calls coming into Nute's office.

The end of call 7 is at approximately 9:48 a.m. It will be more than three minutes before a shooter response team, made up of NPD officer Chapman, CSP officer Cario, and others burst into Room 10 firing at least two shots, which Penna hears.

All this time, 911 is ringing off the hook. But we are lied to and told "there were only seven calls." And of course, there weren't even seven--only six. Calls 1 and 2 are the same call (Call 2 having the gunshot audio conveniently reduced).

AP, if you're reading this, you're being lied to. There is no way there were only six 911 calls from Sandy Hook school that day. We know damn well cell calls were at that point being routinely routed to Newtown; many of those calls in the background of Call 7 were likely calls routed from CSP.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Listen to the end of Call 7; the s*** is hitting the fan; shots fired, cops running around, Rick having to keep calling back, and all the while more and more 911 calls coming into Nute's office.

The end of call 7 is at approximately 9:48 a.m. It will be more than three minutes before a shooter response team, made up of NPD officer Chapman, CSP officer Cario, and others burst into Room 10 firing at least two shots, which Penna hears.

All this time, 911 is ringing off the hook. But we are lied to and told "there were only seven calls." And of course, there weren't even seven--only six. Calls 1 and 2 are the same call (Call 2 having the gunshot audio conveniently reduced).

AP, if you're reading this, you're being lied to. There is no way there were only six 911 calls from Sandy Hook school that day. We know damn well cell calls were at that point being routinely routed to Newtown; many of those calls in the background of Call 7 were likely calls routed from CSP.
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"How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of 'call 7?'"

Good question!
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
You want another good question?

Nothing about the released 7 calls were damaging or chilling. 911 call like this and worse are release everyday. A judge found these to be acceptable for release.

Why would a group of people exhaust many hours and resources to suppress something that did not need suppressing? Either there are more calls than this or these are not the calls at all.

Regardless, someone needs to be put up for competency review for thinking laws needed to be erected for just these calls.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
From the speech reversals i have personally done imo some have been chopped and maybe some put in later, the word error, recap etc comes up regular,The guy ringing in is scared I hear him say I know too much, the other guy says bury error. I hear the word prison and then a bit later the word Northbridge, looked it up and there is a prison in Massachusetts by that name, reversals deal in metaphors and i also hear something about reveal the caskets(metaphor)

i think this could be a scared witness but it is just my opinion and reversals are not an exact science oh and i also think some bodies were airlifted out. Children at least one abused imo A woman dead too
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Listen to the end of Call 7; the s*** is hitting the fan; shots fired, cops running around, Rick having to keep calling back, and all the while more and more 911 calls coming into Nute's office.

The end of call 7 is at approximately 9:48 a.m. It will be more than three minutes before a shooter response team, made up of NPD officer Chapman, CSP officer Cario, and others burst into Room 10 firing at least two shots, which Penna hears.

All this time, 911 is ringing off the hook. But we are lied to and told "there were only seven calls." And of course, there weren't even seven--only six. Calls 1 and 2 are the same call (Call 2 having the gunshot audio conveniently reduced).

AP, if you're reading this, you're being lied to. There is no way there were only six 911 calls from Sandy Hook school that day. We know damn well cell calls were at that point being routinely routed to Newtown; many of those calls in the background of Call 7 were likely calls routed from CSP.
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Why the angst? These calls ( actually they are not "calls" they are recordings ) are just like the brief report summary. They prove to me it was just a drill. I found the edits and the bleeds in these calls. I have pointed them out and I don't think people know what to do about them or they are just ignoring them so they can keep hyperventilating about this.
The recordings are doctored and squeezed to fit the narrative. Why complain about how many "calls" now because what we have is a fabrication anyway?

Where is Barbara Sibley in this conversation? Oh yea she does not seem to matter anymore huh?

Your call out to AP also proves this is much larger than you think. Remember this vid


[link to vimeo.com]


This reporter is claiming that this conglomeration of footage is his own. Every single piece of this vid is used as clearing house material. This is his own description of the vid

"I shot this news video outside Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, just after the shooting on Dec. 14"

Seems this includes " emotion corner" at the end.

Hopefully everyone can find the sound issue with emotion corner because that is the biggest tell besides the obvious video issues.

My point in all this? It's a drill. Calling out to AP for some sort of justice is silly since they seem to be providing much of the footage that we know is not quite right as well.

Take a breath and realize it. It was a drill and everything that seems wrong well is.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Then they should have edited out the extra gunshots, and the voices of the dispatcher and police responding immediately to those gunshots ("Is that the shooter?!" ... "Did you hear shooting?!"

Why leave all that in?
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Then they should have edited out the extra gunshots, and the voices of the dispatcher and police responding immediately to those gunshots ("Is that the shooter?!" ... "Did you hear shooting?!"

Why leave all that in?
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If they edited the recordings to fit the narrative why do you care what they left in or out? The fact is they are edited shouldn't that be enough?
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Then they should have edited out the extra gunshots, and the voices of the dispatcher and police responding immediately to those gunshots ("Is that the shooter?!" ... "Did you hear shooting?!"

Why leave all that in?
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If they edited the recordings to fit the narrative why do you care what they left in or out? The fact is they are edited shouldn't that be enough?
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I don't believe they're edited. And logic would dictate that if they were edited, they wouldn't leave all those gunshots hanging out to dry.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, Dudeashane. I totally support your effort to work on the edited aspect.

I want to know where the 911 calls are that came in after 9:47. Because those phones are ringing like crazy at the end of Call 7.

I sure hope there's some movement, soon, on AP's request for the cell calls.
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Also, I believe upon examination of all the current calls, we'll be able to hear Barocsi/Nute taking some in the background of each others' calls that are NOT on the released tapes.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
I don't know why we continue to call them tapes ;) Dating ourselves, I guess.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Then they should have edited out the extra gunshots, and the voices of the dispatcher and police responding immediately to those gunshots ("Is that the shooter?!" ... "Did you hear shooting?!"

Why leave all that in?
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If they edited the recordings to fit the narrative why do you care what they left in or out? The fact is they are edited shouldn't that be enough?
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I don't believe they're edited. And logic would dictate that if they were edited, they wouldn't leave all those gunshots hanging out to dry.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, Dudeashane. I totally support your effort to work on the edited aspect.

I want to know where the 911 calls are that came in after 9:47. Because those phones are ringing like crazy at the end of Call 7.

I sure hope there's some movement, soon, on AP's request for the cell calls.
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Heh. Don't hold your breath.

In all your research and time put into this what is the main question you are trying to answer?

Well it is " what are they hiding?"

So from that aspect how can you take any of what they tell you as fact? You say they release limited amounts of recordings but are still hiding something.

I find the edits and blends and can PROVE IT which shows me what? That they are trying to hide something.

We have the same point of view don't we.

Do you believe the official story?
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
All the weird things surrounding this event could be on purpose. Saying "This is too sloppy to be staged" and keep people guessing.

Anyone ever see the movie "The Joneses"? They are a family created out of a corporation to sell their products. They "move" into a community. They make friends and show off their fancy stuff.

You think the CIA (or anyone else will money and connections) couldn't/ wouldn't create fake families out of agents or government employees for "drills".
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All the weird things surrounding this event could be on purpose. Saying "This is too sloppy to be staged" and keep people guessing.

Anyone ever see the movie "The Joneses"? They are a family created out of a corporation to sell their products. They "move" into a community. They make friends and show off their fancy stuff.

You think the CIA (or anyone else will money and connections) couldn't/ wouldn't create fake families out of agents or government employees for "drills".
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Yep - very true. "So sloppy it must be planned." Total possibility.

The good news it that the truth will be arrived at by studying the evidence at hand--whether that evidence if fake, or genuine. It's the nature of scientific inquiry.

So Dude studies the audio, believing it's edited, and I study the audio, (currently) not believing it's edited. Either way, we're studying the audio, and that's what matters.

In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories. The nature of truth is like a diamond encrusted in mud; you keep hammering away at it, and the mud falls away but the diamond remains intact.
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In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories.
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Referring here to JFK.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
Just like to add that i also hear someone instruct them 'do not mention the kids' i hear this in the background of where emergency calls are taken (in reverse)
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Just like to add that i also hear someone instruct them 'do not mention the kids' i hear this in the background of where emergency calls are taken (in reverse)
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Sorry do not mention any kids
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
All the weird things surrounding this event could be on purpose. Saying "This is too sloppy to be staged" and keep people guessing.

Anyone ever see the movie "The Joneses"? They are a family created out of a corporation to sell their products. They "move" into a community. They make friends and show off their fancy stuff.

You think the CIA (or anyone else will money and connections) couldn't/ wouldn't create fake families out of agents or government employees for "drills".
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Yep - very true. "So sloppy it must be planned." Total possibility.

The good news it that the truth will be arrived at by studying the evidence at hand--whether that evidence if fake, or genuine. It's the nature of scientific inquiry.

So Dude studies the audio, believing it's edited, and I study the audio, (currently) not believing it's edited. Either way, we're studying the audio, and that's what matters.

In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories. The nature of truth is like a diamond encrusted in mud; you keep hammering away at it, and the mud falls away but the diamond remains intact.
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Why isn't it a big deal that if the first call was Lauren R and 911 operator tell her to go lock her door? What if she sent her to her death?

Of course I think it's a drill and can prove the edits as long as Zephyr does not try to explain overdubs and background stepping as mic clipping or cutout lol

Don't we care about the first call? She obviously called from a desk phone and has it on speaker. When 911 answers she picks it up off the base and proceeds. It is like she believes she is participating in a drill.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
All the weird things surrounding this event could be on purpose. Saying "This is too sloppy to be staged" and keep people guessing.

Anyone ever see the movie "The Joneses"? They are a family created out of a corporation to sell their products. They "move" into a community. They make friends and show off their fancy stuff.

You think the CIA (or anyone else will money and connections) couldn't/ wouldn't create fake families out of agents or government employees for "drills".
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Yep - very true. "So sloppy it must be planned." Total possibility.

The good news it that the truth will be arrived at by studying the evidence at hand--whether that evidence if fake, or genuine. It's the nature of scientific inquiry.

So Dude studies the audio, believing it's edited, and I study the audio, (currently) not believing it's edited. Either way, we're studying the audio, and that's what matters.

In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories. The nature of truth is like a diamond encrusted in mud; you keep hammering away at it, and the mud falls away but the diamond remains intact.
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Why isn't it a big deal that if the first call was Lauren R and 911 operator tell her to go lock her door? What if she sent her to her death?

Of course I think it's a drill and can prove the edits as long as Zephyr does not try to explain overdubs and background stepping as mic clipping or cutout lol

Don't we care about the first call? She obviously called from a desk phone and has it on speaker. When 911 answers she picks it up off the base and proceeds. It is like she believes she is participating in a drill.
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I've been listening to NPD regularly since 12/14, including this morning; those same cutaways are present. I don't mean to be a pain, but that's just a natural characteristic of that call center, from what I can tell.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
I've wondered who the teacher in Call 4 is (I think you'd have it as Tape 3?) - her accent is the same as B. Murphys (the "I saw a guy handcuffed" kid, as well as the kid standing by Ms. Mattioli at the Superbowl). So in other words, I wonder if Ms. Roussea, being from Canada, would have such a strong CT accent.

Courant originally said it was Roig and then retracted their statement - making me think it was probably Roig ;)
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However she DID get the address wrong, so it might be a sub, or a fake call, or just nerves.
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All the weird things surrounding this event could be on purpose. Saying "This is too sloppy to be staged" and keep people guessing.

Anyone ever see the movie "The Joneses"? They are a family created out of a corporation to sell their products. They "move" into a community. They make friends and show off their fancy stuff.

You think the CIA (or anyone else will money and connections) couldn't/ wouldn't create fake families out of agents or government employees for "drills".
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Yep - very true. "So sloppy it must be planned." Total possibility.

The good news it that the truth will be arrived at by studying the evidence at hand--whether that evidence if fake, or genuine. It's the nature of scientific inquiry.

So Dude studies the audio, believing it's edited, and I study the audio, (currently) not believing it's edited. Either way, we're studying the audio, and that's what matters.

In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories. The nature of truth is like a diamond encrusted in mud; you keep hammering away at it, and the mud falls away but the diamond remains intact.
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Why isn't it a big deal that if the first call was Lauren R and 911 operator tell her to go lock her door? What if she sent her to her death?

Of course I think it's a drill and can prove the edits as long as Zephyr does not try to explain overdubs and background stepping as mic clipping or cutout lol

Don't we care about the first call? She obviously called from a desk phone and has it on speaker. When 911 answers she picks it up off the base and proceeds. It is like she believes she is participating in a drill.
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I've been listening to NPD regularly since 12/14, including this morning; those same cutaways are present. I don't mean to be a pain, but that's just a natural characteristic of that call center, from what I can tell.
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I thought you have a long time radio experience. Listen to 22-26 seconds into Rick's first conversation with Nute. Listen for the word " alright" and how many times he says it
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At 3:58 in Call 7 you can clearly hear Jen beginning to take another, never-mentioned 911 call.

Just at the point that A2 can be heard in the background with this long-familiar transmission, "Male: “A2, Newtown, might we possibly need a second medic," Call 7 cuts off.

Call 7, it is claimed, represents the last landline 911 calls to Bob Nute.

However, it is also clear that some cellphone calls were treated as landline calls, if CSP transferred them to Newtown. They're even labeled "Newtown 911 Call."

Are we really to believe not a single, additional 911 call was take by, or transferred to, Bob Nute and Jen Barocsi that day?
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Yep - very true. "So sloppy it must be planned." Total possibility.

The good news it that the truth will be arrived at by studying the evidence at hand--whether that evidence if fake, or genuine. It's the nature of scientific inquiry.

So Dude studies the audio, believing it's edited, and I study the audio, (currently) not believing it's edited. Either way, we're studying the audio, and that's what matters.

In large part, it was by scrutinizing the official story that researchers were able to work through to more truthful theories. The nature of truth is like a diamond encrusted in mud; you keep hammering away at it, and the mud falls away but the diamond remains intact.
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Why isn't it a big deal that if the first call was Lauren R and 911 operator tell her to go lock her door? What if she sent her to her death?

Of course I think it's a drill and can prove the edits as long as Zephyr does not try to explain overdubs and background stepping as mic clipping or cutout lol

Don't we care about the first call? She obviously called from a desk phone and has it on speaker. When 911 answers she picks it up off the base and proceeds. It is like she believes she is participating in a drill.
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I've been listening to NPD regularly since 12/14, including this morning; those same cutaways are present. I don't mean to be a pain, but that's just a natural characteristic of that call center, from what I can tell.
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I thought you have a long time radio experience. Listen to 22-26 seconds into Rick's first conversation with Nute. Listen for the word " alright" and how many times he says it
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What's the question?
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I reckon beneficiaries of positive discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation planned the sandy hook op and got it sooo wrong.
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Why isn't it a big deal that if the first call was Lauren R and 911 operator tell her to go lock her door? What if she sent her to her death?

Of course I think it's a drill and can prove the edits as long as Zephyr does not try to explain overdubs and background stepping as mic clipping or cutout lol

Don't we care about the first call? She obviously called from a desk phone and has it on speaker. When 911 answers she picks it up off the base and proceeds. It is like she believes she is participating in a drill.
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I've been listening to NPD regularly since 12/14, including this morning; those same cutaways are present. I don't mean to be a pain, but that's just a natural characteristic of that call center, from what I can tell.
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I thought you have a long time radio experience. Listen to 22-26 seconds into Rick's first conversation with Nute. Listen for the word " alright" and how many times he says it
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What's the question?
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I am assuming the questions is can you hear the edit? I can
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At 3:58 in Call 7 you can clearly hear Jen beginning to take another, never-mentioned 911 call.

Just at the point that A2 can be heard in the background with this long-familiar transmission, "Male: “A2, Newtown, might we possibly need a second medic," Call 7 cuts off.

Call 7, it is claimed, represents the last landline 911 calls to Bob Nute.

However, it is also clear that some cellphone calls were treated as landline calls, if CSP transferred them to Newtown. They're even labeled "Newtown 911 Call."

Are we really to believe not a single, additional 911 call was take by, or transferred to, Bob Nute and Jen Barocsi that day?
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Not to mention the phones ringing off the hook in all the OTHER calls.

I hope AP gets those cell calls soon. There is a lot more to be told from that day.
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You know what is really odd?

If there were all these other calls going to CSP and Nute or Jen were suppose to be dispatching on all these other supposed calls that we just don't have..

How come we don't here Nute or Jen take these calls? How come they are never interrupted? Like say BS or Holden calling in. If they truly did and Nute dispatched from them or Jen did how come we don't here CSP transfer that call?

You cannot use the excuse that they came later
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You know what is really odd?

If there were all these other calls going to CSP and Nute or Jen were suppose to be dispatching on all these other supposed calls that we just don't have..

How come we don't here Nute or Jen take these calls? How come they are never interrupted? Like say BS or Holden calling in. If they truly did and Nute dispatched from them or Jen did how come we don't here CSP transfer that call?

You cannot use the excuse that they came later
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Hmmmm.

I wonder when they pieced together Rick's call if they forgot to get Nute to take a couple CSP calls to dispatch from so they could validate the "cell" calls.
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You know what is really odd?

If there were all these other calls going to CSP and Nute or Jen were suppose to be dispatching on all these other supposed calls that we just don't have..

How come we don't here Nute or Jen take these calls? How come they are never interrupted? Like say BS or Holden calling in. If they truly did and Nute dispatched from them or Jen did how come we don't here CSP transfer that call?

You cannot use the excuse that they came later
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They may never have been transferred. They may never have been answered in the first place.

Listen to how many times Jen has to call CSP before someone finally answers.
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You know what is really odd?

If there were all these other calls going to CSP and Nute or Jen were suppose to be dispatching on all these other supposed calls that we just don't have..

How come we don't here Nute or Jen take these calls? How come they are never interrupted? Like say BS or Holden calling in. If they truly did and Nute dispatched from them or Jen did how come we don't here CSP transfer that call?

You cannot use the excuse that they came later
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They may never have been transferred. They may never have been answered in the first place.

Listen to how many times Jen has to call CSP before someone finally answers.
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Well you can't have it both ways. You can't argue that BS/Holden call was used to dispatch from Nute then say well their call might not have gone through when there is no evidence they called.

Everyone who uses the BS/Holden call as actually existing says Nute dispatched off it. Well he didn't. I don't care if they called and got CSP or not. Nute never dispatched off their call. End of story.
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Re: How can there be only 7 Sandy Hook 911 calls, yet phones ringing off hook at end of "call 7?"
You know what is really odd?

If there were all these other calls going to CSP and Nute or Jen were suppose to be dispatching on all these other supposed calls that we just don't have..

How come we don't here Nute or Jen take these calls? How come they are never interrupted? Like say BS or Holden calling in. If they truly did and Nute dispatched from them or Jen did how come we don't here CSP transfer that call?

You cannot use the excuse that they came later
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They may never have been transferred. They may never have been answered in the first place.

Listen to how many times Jen has to call CSP before someone finally answers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51636646


Well you can't have it both ways. You can't argue that BS/Holden call was used to dispatch from Nute then say well their call might not have gone through when there is no evidence they called.

Everyone who uses the BS/Holden call as actually existing says Nute dispatched off it. Well he didn't. I don't care if they called and got CSP or not. Nute never dispatched off their call. End of story.
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How do we know Rick's call hasn't been fabricated to cover up theirs?

It's all just theory, bro. When I argue strongly on a certain theory, it's to see how far it will go. If it runs into an obstacle, or into new evidence, that's fine - I don't have any personal stake in a theory. One shouldn't (hopefully) have an emotional/pride stake in any theory, at least not if truly interested in the facts.

If it was indeed Rick's call that generated Nute's first dispatch, I have no problem with that.

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