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Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/12/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hubble Space Telescope's wide-field camera will attempt to recover fragments of ISON on 19 December 2013, just a heads up incase nobody knew. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16622571 "NASA regrets to inform that Hubble will be having technical difficulties during the 3 hour window for photographing ISON on Dec. 19, 2013." I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
LadyK74 User ID: 19330420 United States 12/12/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so taking data, making a postulation based on that data and the outcome predicted from that data comes true -- no one actually knew what was going on? that's awfully illogical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50347529 Nasa: Equipmet failure/cameras pointed wrong Nasa: Comet Ison is dead Nasa: Comet Ison lives Nasa cuts feed when asked about size and orbit Nasa: Comet Ison didn't behave as expected.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51202006 France 12/12/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a second tracker: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50999973 85 million km 50 km/s. Although it does not say lat and long from a geocentric view still ISON is not dead obviously. [link to theskylive.com] sky live is not real data. it is just information pulled form the jpl data, made months ago. it is not current. Hi GG, what they are saying is true. I also went to the site at the beginning of the thread and there it was. It also showed a Comet over Africa (not a sat.). I have done the Cache thing with Bing but it shows a Sat. with the line where is has been and where it is going. This line was NOT in the link when it was showing ISON...simply the picture of a comet on Africa. Didn't think anything of it then until I came back to this thread and saw that it has changed to ISS? Did everyone simply ignore this post? Comet OVER AFRICA what? Bump!!!! |
zacksavage User ID: 51460077 United States 12/12/2013 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so taking data, making a postulation based on that data and the outcome predicted from that data comes true -- no one actually knew what was going on? that's awfully illogical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50347529 Nasa: Equipmet failure/cameras pointed wrong Nasa: Comet Ison is dead Nasa: Comet Ison lives Nasa cuts feed when asked about size and orbit Nasa: Comet Ison didn't behave as expected.. Co-inky-Dink. Not. Z Last Edited by zacksavage on 12/12/2013 06:03 PM Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50999973 Germany 12/12/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This site does not only track satelites. [link to www.satflare.com] This is Asteroid 1998 QE2 just for example. ISON was there and it disapeared 1 hr after the post. No worries since i know the data from that link i also know where it is. Well track that with own equip qnd own eyes. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States 12/12/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This site does not only track satelites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50999973 [link to www.satflare.com] This is Asteroid 1998 QE2 just for example. And what it's telling you there is absolute gibberish. The asteroid's real distance right now is 361,357,500 km. The real RA and Dec right now are 22hr 06m 00.52s +00d 58' 44.6". Etc. Now all of that is for my location of course, topocentric data, but the data it's supposedly giving there is for my location and it's completely wrong. It's not even close. I wouldn't trust this site for more than just satellite info, and even then it's second rate at best. |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/12/2013 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51438234 Well said. I'm just saying it seems like everyone's accusing Astro of being a shill when he's using the best facts available to him. These are 'facts' that can be cross-checked and put to rest if someone has better data. I don't believe he has an agenda beyond seeing a science he reveres put down by people with nothing more than a factless video or someone's assertion. That was my only point. I think that's pretty much what I said. He's working on information that's 'available' to him. You mean? Please quote me in full - thanks. So everyone can plainly see how much of what you say & how many questions you ask that go completely ignored? I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/12/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.flickr.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16622571 this image shows that the satellite was there and over cropped it with iss instead. Did anyone happen to click the "5 reports" link before the page was scrubbed/altered/whatever? i did and they were based off of iss and not ison. Ok, cool, Thank You for the information. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46813305 United States 12/12/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | based on the speed and altitude it should be around 25m miles away on the 28th, but we cant track the speed now so things can def change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16622571 25 million miles? Damn. If that is correct that is half the original projected distance of passage. Shit. And the plot thickens... Venus is 25 million miles from Earth at its closest. Are you worried about it hitting Earth? Hell no. Think with your brain if you have one. Venus takes 224.7 Earth days to travel around the sun. It makes its closest approach to Earth about once every 584 days, when the planets catch up to one another. On average, it is 25 million miles (40 million km) away at this point, though it can reach as close as 24 million miles (38 million km). [link to www.space.com] In this case, Venus will be very near Earth and whatever they are still tracking called ISON will be north. The 3 will be in a somewhat near-triangle pattern. Interactive Earth, Venus, ISON [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Thread: COMET ISON is halfway between the Sun and Earth This lists many sites still tracking ISON ^^^^ISON has a speed, distance from Earth, distance from Sun, Orbit AND a magnitude. Current data on many sites. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46813305 United States 12/12/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hubble Space Telescope's wide-field camera will attempt to recover fragments of ISON on 19 December 2013, just a heads up incase nobody knew. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16622571 "NASA regrets to inform that Hubble will be having technical difficulties during the 3 hour window for photographing ISON on Dec. 19, 2013." I totally expect this :Smiley ROFL: |
Meh User ID: 51466008 Germany 12/12/2013 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are going to ensure the moon will take most of the impacts. They have been adjusting it bit by bit over many years so that at the right moment it would be in the right place. Weird weather and geological phenomena anyony???? The result will no doubt be that the moon will get pushed into a new position, some ocean shores will be swept clean(of life) and some tectonic events will occur. Not long now. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States 12/12/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | based on the speed and altitude it should be around 25m miles away on the 28th, but we cant track the speed now so things can def change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16622571 25 million miles? Damn. If that is correct that is half the original projected distance of passage. Shit. And the plot thickens... Venus is 25 million miles from Earth at its closest. Are you worried about it hitting Earth? Hell no. Think with your brain if you have one. Venus takes 224.7 Earth days to travel around the sun. It makes its closest approach to Earth about once every 584 days, when the planets catch up to one another. On average, it is 25 million miles (40 million km) away at this point, though it can reach as close as 24 million miles (38 million km). [link to www.space.com] In this case, Venus will be very near Earth and whatever they are still tracking called ISON will be north. The 3 will be in a somewhat near-triangle pattern. Interactive Earth, Venus, ISON [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Thread: COMET ISON is halfway between the Sun and Earth This lists many sites still tracking ISON ^^^^ISON has a speed, distance from Earth, distance from Sun, Orbit AND a magnitude. Current data on many sites. last obs. used 2013-11-22 |
Hydra User ID: 51434856 Germany 12/12/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I see some proof of the .5 to 1.5 mile nucleus? Quoting: NewThor Astro, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? Can I see some proof that ISON's Nucleus is BIGGER than Earth? NewTard, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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MEH User ID: 51466008 Germany 12/12/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I see some proof of the .5 to 1.5 mile nucleus? Quoting: NewThor Astro, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? Can I see some proof that ISON's Nucleus is BIGGER than Earth? NewTard, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? . Can you show us your brain is larger than a grain of sand. Hydra, can you deaw me a picture of a dot?? Did'nt think so, as one requires more than half an IQ in order to manage that. Tard. |
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Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/13/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Snipped from the cached page: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51442932 (I hope I am doing this right) [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] Very cool! Thank You for having the presence of mind to grab screenshots & for making the time to share them with us. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Solar Guardian User ID: 51038688 Malaysia 12/13/2013 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are going to ensure the moon will take most of the impacts. Quoting: Meh 51466008 They have been adjusting it bit by bit over many years so that at the right moment it would be in the right place. Weird weather and geological phenomena anyony???? The result will no doubt be that the moon will get pushed into a new position, some ocean shores will be swept clean(of life) and some tectonic events will occur. Not long now. |
Hydra User ID: 51482717 Germany 12/13/2013 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I see some proof of the .5 to 1.5 mile nucleus? Quoting: NewThor Astro, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? Can I see some proof that ISON's Nucleus is BIGGER than Earth? NewTard, can you draw me a picture of the nucleus? . Can you show us your brain is larger than a grain of sand. Hydra, can you deaw me a picture of a dot?? Did'nt think so, as one requires more than half an IQ in order to manage that. Tard. I see - no arguments left, thus resort to ad hominem. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/13/2013 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it strange that they showed ISON, but within an hour they replaced it with ISS. I have no clue regarding the data. Quoting: LadyK74 I really hope that nothing will hit us, but after what has transpired with NASA, and all the other odd coincidences I'm not really sure what the hell is going on. Nothing is wrong with sleuthing and independent research as long as people don't claim to know something 100%. As always, from all the info presented, take what you want and leave the rest. I noticed extreme derailing of threads regarding ISON, on threads with regular research, no crazy claims. We're on a conspiracy forum after all. While Astro doesn't attack personally, he doesn't even consider other points that people represent. It was stated that people look for truth on youtube etc., when youtube is just a tool to do a presentation of ones research, just like Astro does it himself. When I posted NiklasTeslasGhost video, I thought he made some very good points. It's just sharing information, and there is nothing wrong with that. The Video uploader even stated "Don't go by my opinion, cause my opinion doesn't mean shit, just look at the data, do your own research and come to your own conclusion" Yet, the shills came and trolled. They wanted me to admit in January that I WAS WRONG, yet I haven't claimed anything ROFL... Too many strange things surrounding ISON for me to call it dead, or whatever there is left of it to pose no danger. With that said, I really hope nothing will happen. But I will definitely not kiss anybody's ASS and say hey you were right all along, as NOBODY can really know for sure what is going to happen. Not the Ison "tards" and not Dr. Astro. Eat fish. You consume the meat & throw out the skin & bones, the useless portion. It's determining which is the "meat" & which is the "skin & bones" that can be the tricky part ;-) I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/13/2013 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it strange that they showed ISON, but within an hour they replaced it with ISS. I have no clue regarding the data. Quoting: LadyK74 I really hope that nothing will hit us, but after what has transpired with NASA, and all the other odd coincidences I'm not really sure what the hell is going on. Nothing is wrong with sleuthing and independent research as long as people don't claim to know something 100%. As always, from all the info presented, take what you want and leave the rest. I noticed extreme derailing of threads regarding ISON, on threads with regular research, no crazy claims. We're on a conspiracy forum after all. While Astro doesn't attack personally, he doesn't even consider other points that people represent. It was stated that people look for truth on youtube etc., when youtube is just a tool to do a presentation of ones research, just like Astro does it himself. When I posted NiklasTeslasGhost video, I thought he made some very good points. It's just sharing information, and there is nothing wrong with that. The Video uploader even stated "Don't go by my opinion, cause my opinion doesn't mean shit, just look at the data, do your own research and come to your own conclusion" Yet, the shills came and trolled. They wanted me to admit in January that I WAS WRONG, yet I haven't claimed anything ROFL... Too many strange things surrounding ISON for me to call it dead, or whatever there is left of it to pose no danger. With that said, I really hope nothing will happen. But I will definitely not kiss anybody's ASS and say hey you were right all along, as NOBODY can really know for sure what is going to happen. Not the Ison "tards" and not Dr. Astro. Forgot to mention that I agree with the vast majority of what you said here :-) I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/13/2013 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Reinvigorated Being That anyone could look at how Never A Straight Answer has handled Comet ISON, from the start until today, & still view them as a reliable source of anything but lies, obfuscation, contradictions, half truths, misdirection & a near comical string of "oops! mea culpa.".... still, after ALL of that....it's simply laughable. what is your timetable to determine if ISON actually causes anything or not? March? June? next December? I'd like to know, because after that time has come and gone, I'd be interested in how you spin the story Way to not address what I said. astute observation. I deliberately neglected entering into discussion with out in regards to what you wrote because you've supplied no evidence to support your claims. I've also noticed your responses enough to know that you will not accept any data that is contrary to your opinion. because of this, I asked you a question in an effort to identify the point in time where you personally will be satisfied with results of this ISON situation as being final. congratulations on doing exactly what you accused me of doing. Why on Earth would/should I answer a question which bore no relevance to the quoted comment? I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4948678 United States 12/13/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has any reputable Astronomer (I.E. "non youtube trailer dweller")Stated categorically it IS going to impact earth? I think not; Which is why I don't post here anymore. This is all hyped up b.s.by people who couldn't find the right classroom for orbital mechanics 588 never mind knowing which end of the telescope to peer through. Don't bother answering. For all you Ranting doomsayers:"bringing out important information": Ask yourself: What difference does it make? It reminds me of the scene in the pub in "the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy": "There's a Vogon demolition crew on its way and your planet is going to be destroyed..." "Well, shouldn't we put paper bags on our heads or something?" " you can if you'd like; but it won't make any difference." Say we are definitely,100% going to be impacted by a large Asteroid. What can you do to stop it or prepare for the planetary wide destruction? Nothing. Build a bunker and stuff it with food and water? On the ranting advice of some trailer park lunatic who scours pixellated you tube videos created by 12 year olds for "evidence"? and couldn't plot an orbit any more than he can balance his checkbook.?Get a grip people. SEE! this is where you're wrong. For decades this has been known about. Many thought the travelers who gave us the pyramids, machu pichu, stonehendge etc. would come back to shuttle us off to safety. But the world governments(controlled by the dark forces of this world) would not allow their intervention to take place. In 1984 the travelers sent 64 men and women known as the 64 Pillars! They inhabited our world to prepare for the coming threat. Before the impact would take place these 64 Pillars would position themselves around our earth to create field in-penetrable by any material object. At that time all humans in existence will become aware of what is taking place through our conscious link with this field. And on that day, we will all celebrate together as one point of existence! And on that day, we ALL become kings!! |
Rising Son User ID: 50840634 United States 12/14/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50999973 Germany 12/14/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Quoting: Rising Son Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? They also have a new codename for it. Undisclosed...of course. |
Rising Son User ID: 50840634 United States 12/14/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Quoting: Rising Son Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? They also have a new codename for it. Undisclosed...of course. That makes sense - it is easier to pretend it is something else and rename it than to admit you were wrong about it to begin with. Some of the so-called experts here on GLP are prime examples of this type of arrogance and stupidity. I'll be the first to admit that I have no clue where ISON is or what it will do, but with the number of stories emerging stating that ISON is not only still intact but is a danger to Earth - it makes you wonder if these "experts" simply got it wrong, or are deliberately trying to deceive. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States 12/15/2013 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Quoting: Rising Son Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? Actually it looks exactly like a cloud of dust, no central condensation, not an intact comet. |
Shadow Beam User ID: 51577216 New Zealand 12/15/2013 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Quoting: Rising Son Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? Actually it looks exactly like a cloud of dust, no central condensation, not an intact comet. yeah a 1km comets worth of dust ay astro.... |
Solar Guardian User ID: 17034890 Malaysia 12/15/2013 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: ISON - after Perihelion - PICTURES - strong and INTACT Quoting: Rising Son Looks like it is more than "a cloud of dust flouting out of the solar system" now doesn't it? Actually it looks exactly like a cloud of dust, no central condensation, not an intact comet. yeah a 1km comets worth of dust ay astro.... |