Farm Bill "Compromise" Deadline Friday 12/13/2013 Will FoodStamps Get Cut? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41702499 United States 12/12/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if your child gets two free meals a day at school, that should be deducted from food stamp benefits . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41702499 dont hold ur breath - not with th libs runnin the show... :GOM-wishcrap: the "libs" and "cons" are simply the pet names for the hands used too fistfuck you with. both hands are attached to the same puppet masters |
bigD111 User ID: 39191150 United States 12/12/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Phennommennonn have you tasted the milk of late? its nasty - theyre was talk of the plants adding aspartame to it - but i dont buy it i get it from the amish farms It tastes bad because of the government involvement. If the gov were to let the dairy industry regulate prices using the open market, then then milk would taste better. Let me explain. The taste of milk is heavily dependent on what the cow who produces the milk eats. Cows who are out on grass pasture make better tasting milk. But cows who are eating corn silage and grain inside, make more milk. The farmer with the best tasting milk isn't paid anymore than the farmer with the worst tasting milk. They are all blended together by the government mandated co-op, and bottled up and sent to the store. If the government left farmers alone, then farmers wouldn't have to sell to the co-ops. The farms with the best tasting milk would sell more, and the farms with the garbage milk would sell less. In a short amount of time, milk would be better tasting and cows would be happier. But that can't happen as long as the government controls where the farmer sells his milk to and how much he gets paid. btw - Let's stop calling it the farm bill and start calling it the welfare bill. If 80 plus percent of the bill is about welfare, then it should be labeled welfare. There is a lot more to it than that. It is usually an economic decision that dictates what the cows eat. High quality alfalfa is fed in our dairies, but the price is exorbitant. So, they look for substitutes. The milk quality suffers. It is all very complicated. If the farmer sets his own price, then he(or she) could charge 20 cents more per gallon and sell a superior product. I'd gladly pay a little more for better tasting milk. In the free market, that's allowed. In a government controlled market place, that's against the law. I know! Is it me or does everything hinge on money these days. It sucks, and we the people will suffer. I think when a lot of gmo foods hit the market we will be eating poison. deplorably republican |
AnOldYoungMan User ID: 47876927 United States 12/12/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why food stamps will not be meaningfully reduced or cut... [link to www.g-a-i.org] For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? |
DIRTFARMER User ID: 33159260 United States 12/12/2013 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | word is folks....that CONgress is tryn to pass a 5 yr 'compromise deal' & but the problems cuttn the foodstamp program - house GOP wants a 40bil cut but senate wants 4bil cut - the dem housetards wanna propose just a trimmer to match senate proposal...not enuff boehner says. the two sides're supposed to have a final compromise bill on the house floor by tomorrow/dec 13 but the deadline could be pushed into next year as its already + a year behind schedule. ***summa the dems have been considering voting against any compromise farm bill in order to kill the bill. if that happens, FS would continue to be funded at current benefit. and boehner could very well play the "haserts card" on any 'rejected compromise'. Quoting: Phennommennonn BLOATED FARM SUBSIDIES WILL THE 2013 FARM BILL REALLY CUT THE FAT? [link to mercatus.org] House Speaker Boehner blames Democrats for tardy U.S. farm bill U.S. House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday accused Senate Democrats of blocking the path to a new U.S. farm bill that would cut food stamp benefits for the poor and boost crop insurance coverage for farmers. [link to www.cnbc.com] Published: December 11, 2013 WASHINGTON — Prospects for passage of a new farm bill before the end of the year appear dim, with just a week left before Congress adjourns for the holidays, although lawmakers insisted they were close to a deal. The current measure expires at the end of the month. Members of the House and Senate have been meeting to reconcile their different versions of a new bill, and they agree on many things, including expanding crop insurance for farmers. But they remain far apart on issues like cuts to the food stamp program. A House proposal would cut about $40 billion from the program, while a Senate version would trim roughly $4.5 billion, mainly by making administrative changes. more here [link to www.nytimes.com] Published: December 10, 2013 Political Fight on Farm Aid and Food Stamps Hits Home in the Delta BELZONI, Miss. — Thomas Bond, a cotton grower whose onetime 8,500-acre partnership of farms received $4 million in federal subsidies in the last seven years, thinks that many residents in the surrounding Mississippi Delta need food stamps. But he says the program is too big and rife with fraud. “There are a lot of people on food stamps who shouldn’t be,” Mr. Bond said in a recent interview at the Yazoo Country Club. “They could be working, but don’t.” more here [link to www.nytimes.com] Published: December 3, 2013 WASHINGTON — Congress could enact a new U.S. farm law that cuts food stamps for the poor and expands federally subsidized crop insurance in January if negotiators soon break a deadlock, the lawmaker overseeing the negotiations said on Tuesday. Cuts in food stamps are the paramount issue for the farm bill, which is more than a year overdue. Conservative Republicans want the largest cuts in a generation, $40 billion over 10 years. House Democrats solidly oppose any cuts. The sides continue to struggle for a compromise. The food stamp fight has repeatedly slowed work on the five-year, $500 billion bill, which has also endured the first-ever defeat of a farm bill in the House of Representatives. Deep divisions also remain over crop subsidies and dairy reform, other lines of dispute that must be resolved. With time running out in 2013, Frank Lucas of Oklahoma, who chairs the House-Senate negotiations, admitted for the first time that the farm bill may not be ready for a vote before year-end, even though a broad framework might be hammered out this month. more here [link to www.nytimes.com] Farm Bill 2013 Senate Conferees [link to frac.org] My opinion as a real farmer. Dump farm bill 100%. It is high time for farmers to grow a pair, and stand on their own two feet. With that happening, there would be plenty of money to fund food stamps, and savings to the budget along with that. There is not a business in America that enjoys more subsidization than farming, and currently farming is in a boom time. Stop the insanity, and stop running up debt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44673203 United States 12/12/2013 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only does it cut food stamps if its not passed it will cut several programs Quoting: YaRight Link [link to globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com] From the link "Unless a farm bill passes by the end of the year, the crop subsidy program will revert to 1949 policies and the government would be required to stockpile milk until it reached $37.20 per hundred pounds. The current price is about $19.00. Read more at [link to globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com] Milk DOOM Not just milk doom but I would assume all dairy and meat products as well. Imagine paying $5 for a dozen eggs??? I may get rich if my chickens start laying more often lol. I might want to expand my layer flock if this happens...... I hear milk could go up as high as $9.00 a gallon if nothing passes by the end of the year. I do not drink that much milk. Hey, I bet yogurt and ice cream would also go sky high if milk does... have you tasted the milk of late? its nasty - theyre was talk of the plants adding aspartame to it - but i dont buy it i get it from the amish farms lol...i guess when the cities go empty, the hordes will be headed out to your neck of the woods:) |
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waterlily User ID: 51323695 United States 12/12/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'BLOATED FARM SUBSIDIES'...perfect description for the SNAP Card holders I see shopping! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51260390 Food stamps, SNAP, however they do it, it should be on its own legs, not part of the farm bill. The way it is now, it is a political football, the Democrats can blame the greedy Republicans, ya da da, ya da da... The voters need to know how much goes to food stamps, how much goes to subsidies. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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waterlily User ID: 51323695 United States 12/12/2013 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | word is folks....that CONgress is tryn to pass a 5 yr 'compromise deal' & but the problems cuttn the foodstamp program - house GOP wants a 40bil cut but senate wants 4bil cut - the dem housetards wanna propose just a trimmer to match senate proposal...not enuff boehner says. the two sides're supposed to have a final compromise bill on the house floor by tomorrow/dec 13 but the deadline could be pushed into next year as its already + a year behind schedule. ***summa the dems have been considering voting against any compromise farm bill in order to kill the bill. if that happens, FS would continue to be funded at current benefit. and boehner could very well play the "haserts card" on any 'rejected compromise'. Quoting: Phennommennonn BLOATED FARM SUBSIDIES WILL THE 2013 FARM BILL REALLY CUT THE FAT? [link to mercatus.org] House Speaker Boehner blames Democrats for tardy U.S. farm bill U.S. House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday accused Senate Democrats of blocking the path to a new U.S. farm bill that would cut food stamp benefits for the poor and boost crop insurance coverage for farmers. [link to www.cnbc.com] ---snip--- [link to www.nytimes.com] Farm Bill 2013 Senate Conferees [link to frac.org] My opinion as a real farmer. Dump farm bill 100%. It is high time for farmers to grow a pair, and stand on their own two feet. With that happening, there would be plenty of money to fund food stamps, and savings to the budget along with that. There is not a business in America that enjoys more subsidization than farming, and currently farming is in a boom time. Stop the insanity, and stop running up debt. 100% in total agreement with that. Farmers really do not to be propped up, this is not the dust bowl, etc etc. We have farm land, rented out, and the farmers that are harvesting off our modest acreage are doing fine. They aren't driving Hummers but they are prosperous. Midwest farmers might not be doing so well, but I suppose the govt could step in for emergency situations if they wanted. Crop insurance is available too. This would be an ideal time to drop the farm bill. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/12/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | watch n see how this all plays out we have of late - reports predicting the collapse by march/april 2014. all the entitlement programs will be front center. starting with tomorrow - then the impending january 13 or 15th shutdown of govt feb - is D-day march or april - our financial infrastructures to humpty-dumpty political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/12/2013 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "they" will never stop feeding the herd. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51170733 at least not as long as they still need their votes. ahhhh yes the 2014 promise /sarcasm political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
pmb1 User ID: 50410975 United States 12/12/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remove the illegals and send them back and instantly you will see applicants drop!. 22 million illegals X $3-700.00 a month! do the math!. Plus you will have jobs for americans to go back to work instead of being on foodstamps. This is the problem that no one wants to talk about that is the root cause of the foodstamps explosion!. Quoting: SoulR3ap3rs Not again??? You have to be a US citizen to get food stamps, believe me they do their checking to make sure. They even check real citizens. They do background checks and everything on people. |
conspiracyorreality User ID: 50463630 United States 12/12/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only does it cut food stamps if its not passed it will cut several programs Quoting: YaRight Link [link to globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com] From the link "Unless a farm bill passes by the end of the year, the crop subsidy program will revert to 1949 policies and the government would be required to stockpile milk until it reached $37.20 per hundred pounds. The current price is about $19.00. Read more at [link to globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com] Milk DOOM Not just milk doom but I would assume all dairy and meat products as well. Imagine paying $5 for a dozen eggs??? I may get rich if my chickens start laying more often lol. I might want to expand my layer flock if this happens...... I hear milk could go up as high as $9.00 a gallon if nothing passes by the end of the year. I do not drink that much milk. Hey, I bet yogurt and ice cream would also go sky high if milk does... have you tasted the milk of late? its nasty - theyre was talk of the plants adding aspartame to it - but i dont buy it i get it from the amish farms yeah.. stay away from most of the milk in stores.. we are able to get one that's about twice the price of the other but it's natural and also buy the amish butter without the "additives" TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION.. to be sure we are on the same "page" we must first be in the same BOOK “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. The gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14 Connect The Dots ... they will lead you to The Answer |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 12/12/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cut foods stamps by 100%! The soup kitchens did a lot better job of actually feeding people, and they did it for a small fraction of the cost. The problem is that it's gonna' be so hard to turn a bowl of soup into your next drug fix. We could easily feed everybody in America for a lot less than the snap program costs. Farm subsidies could be cut dramatically too. A lot of farmers are keeping fields fallow, and collecting government money for growing nothing. Most of the farm subsidies are out-dated and should be cut. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51206043 United States 12/12/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you know how much food is thrown out every day in the usa? why even have food stamps. get the extra food to them. it would save the usa money if they just gave out free leftover food instead of using tax money. a lot of people take advantage of the system. mothers who don't work and are getting child support spend their child support money on jewelry and makeup and then use food stamps for food for the kids. big cities can feed all of their poor. in a place like nyc with how many resturants and catering places there are who throw out good food in the end of the day. if they can give that to the poor they would feed every single poor or homeless person there with more food than food stamps |
waterlily User ID: 51323695 United States 12/12/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cut foods stamps by 100%! The soup kitchens did a lot better job of actually feeding people, and they did it for a small fraction of the cost. The problem is that it's gonna' be so hard to turn a bowl of soup into your next drug fix. We could easily feed everybody in America for a lot less than the snap program costs. Farm subsidies could be cut dramatically too. A lot of farmers are keeping fields fallow, and collecting government money for growing nothing. Most of the farm subsidies are out-dated and should be cut. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy We can lease our acreage for about $100 an acre. We can put it in CRP for $100 acre, my brother says. The Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) is a land conservation program administered by the Farm Service Agency (FSA). In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat. USDA You can ignore that environmentally sensitive bit, as that means crop land in their secret language. We would have to do some maintenance farming if we took the CRP, so it would not be $100 clear. A lot of farmers are putting in trees, which don't need much after a couple of years. Hybrid popular grows very fast and can be cut for pulp in about 5 years I'm told. These are some facts about crop farming today. We no longer have grain reserves sitting in barges outside New York, for in case of famine. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States 12/12/2013 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teeing this up to be a big fight in January... After all, it will serve as a good distraction from the budget and debt-ceiling issues, both scheduled to rise from the grave of public awareness in the second half of January. Anyone else see a pattern, here? Everything seems to be scheduled to pop between January 14th and Feb. 10th... that couldn't be a purposeful thing, now could it? BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
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BattlesightZero User ID: 50716210 United States 12/12/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have yet to see an epidemic of skinny in this country, which tells me SNAP should be cut. Quoting: Copperhead BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
Vision Thing User ID: 51014514 United States 12/12/2013 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of all the things that could be cut food will be the last. Quoting: jones city 50214297 Hunger will cause an overthrow of the system , and the people in charge know this. But some people think the situation will be used to further an agenda, such as suspension of the US Constitution (not that it isn't suspended already - just an example). |
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Hawkesbay User ID: 42869654 United States 12/12/2013 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then there's Boehner, out whining about how conservative groups have lost all credibility because they want to trim deficits and shrink government. As long as he's part of the negotiations, we can expect more bloat, and more free stuff for the takers. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 12/12/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this'll for sure toss a wrench in the 15hr mcnasty wages bc if snap gets cut no one'll be swipin for MCpinkslime burgers political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Uncle Fuck Stick User ID: 49511454 United States 12/12/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this'll for sure toss a wrench in the 15hr mcnasty wages bc if snap gets cut no one'll be swipin for MCpinkslime burgers Quoting: Phennommennonn :racist wtermelon: Last Edited by Uncle Fuck Stick on 12/12/2013 04:33 PM :4hlick: |
waterlily User ID: 51323695 United States 12/12/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then there's Boehner, out whining about how conservative groups have lost all credibility because they want to trim deficits and shrink government. As long as he's part of the negotiations, we can expect more bloat, and more free stuff for the takers. Quoting: Hawkesbay He is the walking embodiment of the pink slime burger. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |