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Do Jehovah's Witnesses knock .....because they need something or have something to share?

 
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During the 1,000 year reign of Christ, when God gives back the land, no man will work for another or pay rent, all will build and own their own homes.
"And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage. 22 They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. 23 They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. 24 And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear.
25 “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said." Isa65;21

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Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
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During the 1,000 year reign of Christ, when God gives back the land, no man will work for another or pay rent, all will build and own their own homes.
"And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage. 22 They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. 23 They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. 24 And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear.
25 “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said." Isa65;21
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This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth.
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They think they have something to share and they think they need to share it. It is sad that they work so hard to spread so much silliness.
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Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
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Jesus didn't dispatch his disciples to try to end poverty, noble as that futile effort would be, it would only be a band aid, not the solution.
"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19



'For YOU always have the poor with YOU, but YOU will not always have me' Mt26;11
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threarened and driven.


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They think they have something to share and they think they need to share it. It is sad that they work so hard to spread so much silliness.
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Here's what's closing in this violent world, and here's the only escape. Do you have another solution?
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21:25
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My wifes family belong to this organization. They are genuinely brainwashed. Great people, very nice to be around but they are robots spewing ideals of a religion that they cannot question or fact check.
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U have to invite a vampire into your home
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My wifes family belong to this organization. They are genuinely brainwashed. Great people, very nice to be around but they are robots spewing ideals of a religion that they cannot question or fact check.
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So how about you explain the divine solution to Satan's reign of terror to me, ... this is a fact check. Just to be fair here's your hint. Rv14:1
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My wifes family belong to this organization. They are genuinely brainwashed. Great people, very nice to be around but they are robots spewing ideals of a religion that they cannot question or fact check.
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For example?
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My wifes family belong to this organization. They are genuinely brainwashed. Great people, very nice to be around but they are robots spewing ideals of a religion that they cannot question or fact check.
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Here is a question that you will NEVER get an answer to.

Who EXACTLY sits on the board of directors for the Watchtower CORP.?

Here is another one.

Can you show where all the money goes?

It is a know fact that the legal department at the Brooklyn headquarters is the LARGEST department there with the HIGHEST security.

How do I know? I am a former 3rd generation JW Elder that resigned when I learned the real TRUTH regarding many wrong teachings.

Unless a JW is willing to risk being disfellowshiped, there is NO WAY to really question anything that doesn't make sense regarding the teachings.

Read Ray Franz book, In Search Of Christian Freedom" for an in-depth yet loving honest look at the teachings of the JW's.

Ray Franz is/was the ONLY member of the JW governing body to be disfellowshiped.

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All religions or cults want only 2 things - your money and control over you.
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All religions or cults want only 2 things - your money and control over you.
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1. " And who is adequately qualified for these things? 17 [We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." 2Cor2:16
2. "These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one. 20 Certainly if, after having escaped from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, the final conditions have become worse for them than the first." 2Pe2;16
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Another thing is the logical mind trap that you are in as a JW.

Primary teaching:

Jehovah is god. Jesus is his son.

Secondly:

The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (JW's) IS
Jehovah's earthly organization to which he reveals his "food at the proper time".

So, if you question or disagree with anything in number 1, SEE RULE 2.

So, round you go on the merryground of circular reasoning. This point is THE HOOK that anyone leaving this group needs to loose in order to be free.

GOD does NOT work through any ONE person, group, or CORPORATION, PERIOD.

It's all about centralized control of the people. No thinking for yourself, or asking to many HARD questions.

Like most Christian religions, the JW's teachings are really Paul based, NOT Jesus based.

peace
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Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51396043


Jesus closing words to his disciples was to preach about the long lasting solution, God's Kingdom, and not to set up charities, though Jehovah's Witnesses perform charitable acts of kindness in personal ways and on global scale, such as in disaster areas



"And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.'- Matthew 28:18-20
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I don't have anything bad to say about the witnesses but I will say that after being a member of the congregation for over four years then being disfellowshipped I have no intentions of going back. I remember the day I was disfellowshipped like it was yesterday. It was as of I lost every friend I had in the world. Took me three years to get over it. I would wake up at night scared out of my wits thinking Armageddon was about to happen and I would be eternally destroyed because I was no longer a member of the Christian congregation.

My crime? I began suffering from depression and took up smoking again.
At my judicial hearing one of the elders asked if my depression was doing better. I told him my doctor said I was. They disfellowshipped me because they said I was doing better with my depression but was still smoking.

Wow. Just wow.
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They believe in works for salvation, how much is needed, they can't say.
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I don't have anything bad to say about the witnesses but I will say that after being a member of the congregation for over four years then being disfellowshipped I have no intentions of going back. I remember the day I was disfellowshipped like it was yesterday. It was as of I lost every friend I had in the world. Took me three years to get over it. I would wake up at night scared out of my wits thinking Armageddon was about to happen and I would be eternally destroyed because I was no longer a member of the Christian congregation.

My crime? I began suffering from depression and took up smoking again.
At my judicial hearing one of the elders asked if my depression was doing better. I told him my doctor said I was. They disfellowshipped me because they said I was doing better with my depression but was still smoking.

Wow. Just wow.
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heartbreak
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They believe in works for salvation, how much is needed, they can't say.
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REALLY??????? can you prove that?
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Re: Do Jehovah's Witnesses knock .....because they need something or have something to share?
Another thing is the logical mind trap that you are in as a JW.

Primary teaching:

Jehovah is god. Jesus is his son.

Secondly:

The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (JW's) IS
Jehovah's earthly organization to which he reveals his "food at the proper time".

So, if you question or disagree with anything in number 1, SEE RULE 2.

So, round you go on the merryground of circular reasoning. This point is THE HOOK that anyone leaving this group needs to loose in order to be free.

GOD does NOT work through any ONE person, group, or CORPORATION, PERIOD.

It's all about centralized control of the people. No thinking for yourself, or asking to many HARD questions.

Like most Christian religions, the JW's teachings are really Paul based, NOT Jesus based.

peace
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"Always be rejoicing. 17 Pray incessantly. 18 In connection with everything give thanks. For this is the will of God in union with Christ Jesus respecting YOU. 19 Do not put out the fire of the spirit. 20 Do not treat prophesyings with contempt. 21 Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 22 Abstain from every form of wickedness." 1thes 5:16
This is why qualifying for baptism requires a minimum one year of home bible study and a 100 question test of knowledge to determine if the student gets the sense of God's requirements.
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They think they have something to share and they think they need to share it. It is sad that they work so hard to spread so much silliness.
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Actually, their "work", as you call it.....is a joy to them

if you can even comprehend that
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They think they have something to share and they think they need to share it. It is sad that they work so hard to spread so much silliness.
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Actually, their "work", as you call it.....is a joy to them

if you can even comprehend that
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QUOTE:......"It's all about centralized control of the people. No thinking for yourself, or asking to many HARD questions."

" While I am coming, continue applying yourself to public reading, to exhortation, to teaching. 14 Do not be neglecting the gift in you that was given you through a prediction and when the body of older men laid their hands upon you. 15 Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, that your advancement may be manifest to all [persons]. 16 Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Stay by these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you." 1Ti4;13
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During the 1,000 year reign of Christ, when God gives back the land, no man will work for another or pay rent, all will build and own their own homes.
"And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage. 22 They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. 23 They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. 24 And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear.
25 “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said." Isa65;21
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They believe in works for salvation, how much is needed, they can't say.
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None of the works salvationists can, they just "hope" they done enough. So tarded.

The elites of the organizations though all know it's a scam.
I mean how many false prophecies are you allowed to make before the membership leaves.

But these people WANTS to be deceived, that's why they are still in it, they want to be deceived, and then they use their fantasy and think that God will reward them for all these works.

It's ridiculous, like their gnostic translation of the Bible, with that muppet that started the cult that lied about knowing hebrew and greek and was found out IN COURT that he could not and admitted he's a liar.

I can't feel sorry for people that wants to be deceived, like the OP, OP has been shown hundreds of errors of his cult but OP refuses because OP wants to be deceived because of the lies of a man that burns in hell as we speak now (but that they of course deny as well, they don't want to believe in hell because they know deep down they are going there but instead of repenting of this idiocy they just push it away and go burn in the end holding fast to the fantasy till the end).
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They believe in works for salvation, how much is needed, they can't say.
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None of the works salvationists can, they just "hope" they done enough. So tarded.

The elites of the organizations though all know it's a scam.
I mean how many false prophecies are you allowed to make before the membership leaves.

But these people WANTS to be deceived, that's why they are still in it, they want to be deceived, and then they use their fantasy and think that God will reward them for all these works.

It's ridiculous, like their gnostic translation of the Bible, with that muppet that started the cult that lied about knowing hebrew and greek and was found out IN COURT that he could not and admitted he's a liar.

I can't feel sorry for people that wants to be deceived, like the OP, OP has been shown hundreds of errors of his cult but OP refuses because OP wants to be deceived because of the lies of a man that burns in hell as we speak now (but that they of course deny as well, they don't want to believe in hell because they know deep down they are going there but instead of repenting of this idiocy they just push it away and go burn in the end holding fast to the fantasy till the end).
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"Salvationist's"- that's a new one to me-
(So what is YOUR hope for the future?- do tell)


" but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved"- Matthew 10:22
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All religions or cults want only 2 things - your money and control over you.
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1. " And who is adequately qualified for these things? 17 [We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." 2Cor2:16
2. "These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one. 20 Certainly if, after having escaped from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, the final conditions have become worse for them than the first." 2Pe2;16
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I'm not a religi-tard though, so you need to give me a different source or link.
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All religions or cults want only 2 things - your money and control over you.
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1. " And who is adequately qualified for these things? 17 [We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." 2Cor2:16
2. "These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one. 20 Certainly if, after having escaped from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, the final conditions have become worse for them than the first." 2Pe2;16
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I'm not a religi-tard though, so you need to give me a different source or link.
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Clergymen market cheap everlasting life policies according to market demand, and adjust accordingly, you're right about 'religious capitalism'. The reason I quoted the scripture to reveal God's instruction regarding his truths, "The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ 8 Cure sick people, raise up dead persons, make lepers clean, expel demons. YOU received free, give free." Mt3:6
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Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51396043

Jesus didn't dispatch his disciples to try to end poverty, noble as that futile effort would be, it would only be a band aid, not the solution.
"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19



'For YOU always have the poor with YOU, but YOU will not always have me' Mt26;11
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Mathew 25: 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
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Re: Do Jehovah's Witnesses knock .....because they need something or have something to share?
Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51396043

20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU.

'For YOU always have the poor with YOU, but YOU will not always have me' Mt26;11
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So what are some things Jesus commanded?

Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.

Regarding Mathew 26:11, you're right, they will not always have Jesus. This then lets us know, he meant, when he left them physically.

And likewise, since Jesus isn't here physically, that means we do not have him here. So, we do have the poor here still. And since the poor are here, how should they be treated?


In that same chapter, we get a clue:

“This perfume could have been sold at a high price and the money given to the poor.”

This of course is align with multiple verses that stress the importance of helping the poor and needy.
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Why don't Jehovah's witness, put any or much emphasis, on feeding and clothing the poor?

I realize, it's important to share the good news, but much emphasis, in both the old and new testament, is put on helping the needy (e.g. orphans, widows, etc).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51396043

Jesus didn't dispatch his disciples to try to end poverty, noble as that futile effort would be, it would only be a band aid, not the solution.
"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19



'For YOU always have the poor with YOU, but YOU will not always have me' Mt26;11
 Quoting: DGN


Mathew 25: 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51546984


Jesus did not instruct his disciples to organize finical social services, collect tithes, to assist the poor, however such is expected of governments with authority to collect taxes to fund it. He meant for his disciples to assist fellow servants of God in times of need,remembering however "For each one will carry his own load." Gal6:5
Christ's disciples offer spiritual help to anyone desiring "godly devotion along with self-sufficiency" Ga6:6 by teaching them this solution;
"Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these [other] things will be added to YOU. 34 So, never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Sufficient for each day is its own badness." Mt6:33

Last Edited by DGN on 12/15/2013 12:16 PM

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