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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Quoting: christian Matthew 16:18 So being a good protestant, I can just create my own private church and the devil will automatically not prevail against it. You have to be stupid to actually believe that. Do you believe the scripture or not??? Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51494304 Germany 12/13/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51494304 Which one of the countless protestant denominations do I need to follow to not go to hell? You have been told, you are arguing with yourself. Follow the Bible and Jesus Christ. Denominations are nto a creation of God but of man. If you ask again, we will all know that you are being willfully ignorant. You have that choice. The answer was that everyone has to follow his own church. So that what I do. I follow the catholic church. But you hate that. I hate it? Why would you think that? And the Catholic church is provably wrong on Christian doctrin and full of false teaching, that is based on the BIBLE, I am not making anything up. You are accusing me of hate because I think, from what you have posted so far, that you are smart enough to KNOW what the RCC really is, but that you were raised or converted into it, and it may be tough for you to hear the truth of it. I know several ex-Catholics, that is who you need to talk to...born again Christians who came out of the RCC and who have been where you are. I don't hate you, I am just telling you the truth. And the truth isn't universalism or embracing all religions and being popular....it is Christ and the Bible, that's it. I am talking to you and you can't even answer my simple question. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm Catholic and the Church took a little bit of a hit for me when they last the previous Pope quit. We are taught that the Holy Spirit guides the selection of the Pope, so why would they have been guided to choose someone that was not going to be able to finish the job. Also, we are taught all things are possible with God and put your trust in the Lord - yet the selected a new Pope which showed they had no trust in the guidance the Lord provided on the previous Pope. Something like that anyway ... probably did not explain it right clearly ... anyway, I still go to Church and believe in doing what is right - but the institution took a hit for me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45287451 Because *You* are the church not the building that holds Mass... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51494304 Germany 12/13/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Quoting: christian Matthew 16:18 So being a good protestant, I can just create my own private church and the devil will automatically not prevail against it. You have to be stupid to actually believe that. Do you believe the scripture or not??? Of course. The church is the rock. I am just showing you the stupidity of the protestant interpretation of that passage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33006343 United States 12/13/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not that they like him because of taking 'selfies.' They like him in spite of that. There are many famous people who take 'selfies' that don't garner near the same reaction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50136252 Pope Francis is loved because of his love. Here we have a leader not only preaching God's will but actively living it. He doesn't just say help the poor, he goes out and helps the poor. He articulates judge the sin not the sinner, it is not our place. Here we have a man showing what a humble following of Christ can be like in a world so devoid of examples. All the while pointing to Christ, not himself. I'm not going to say some don't idolize him because people are prone to idolization. However I don't believe this is the case for the vast majority. He's a role model, an example of what following Christ should look like. So when people see him and his actions they see the work of God and turn to God. They see what a follower of Christ is like and so they begin to follow Christ. I second this thought! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51494304 Germany 12/13/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm Catholic and the Church took a little bit of a hit for me when they last the previous Pope quit. We are taught that the Holy Spirit guides the selection of the Pope, so why would they have been guided to choose someone that was not going to be able to finish the job. Also, we are taught all things are possible with God and put your trust in the Lord - yet the selected a new Pope which showed they had no trust in the guidance the Lord provided on the previous Pope. Something like that anyway ... probably did not explain it right clearly ... anyway, I still go to Church and believe in doing what is right - but the institution took a hit for me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45287451 Because *You* are the church not the building that holds Mass... To say that MAN is the church. That MAN makes the rules is purely satanic. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3763337 You have been told, you are arguing with yourself. Follow the Bible and Jesus Christ. Denominations are nto a creation of God but of man. If you ask again, we will all know that you are being willfully ignorant. You have that choice. The answer was that everyone has to follow his own church. So that what I do. I follow the catholic church. But you hate that. I hate it? Why would you think that? And the Catholic church is provably wrong on Christian doctrin and full of false teaching, that is based on the BIBLE, I am not making anything up. You are accusing me of hate because I think, from what you have posted so far, that you are smart enough to KNOW what the RCC really is, but that you were raised or converted into it, and it may be tough for you to hear the truth of it. I know several ex-Catholics, that is who you need to talk to...born again Christians who came out of the RCC and who have been where you are. I don't hate you, I am just telling you the truth. And the truth isn't universalism or embracing all religions and being popular....it is Christ and the Bible, that's it. I am talking to you and you can't even answer my simple question. I attend a Non-Denominational Christian Church, most of the parishoners are Ex-Catholics, Lutherans..I was baptized in the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church... Of course many like myself miss the worship that was the Catholic and Lutheran Church like the weekly Eucharist, the Lord's prayer the music, but it has changed the institution and that is why many have left... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3763337 United States 12/13/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the RCC is a pagan organization full of false doctrine and false beliefs. They are a works based organization and they embrace humanism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3763337 PLEASE research. So then why does the letter of James say WE ARe NOT saved by faith alone? James wrote in order to warn those who thought that they were getting a get out of jail free card by accepting Christ...basically false conversions. he never taught that any amount of works would get you into heaven...what he taught was that, IF you have been truly converted, works would be the fruit. Which is true....BUT you cannot judge any man off of his walk with Christ. Sanctification takes a life time and we will NEVER be without sin until we go to be with the Lord and we are done with these fleshly bodies. Let me ask you...where is the nun, the pope, confessions to save your soul, praying to Mary and other saints (idolatry) ...where is any of that at in the Bible? It's not. The Catholic Church enveloped pagan deity's and called them saints. It has elevated Mary to perfection, when the Bible tells us no one ever lived a perfect life apart from Christ. Works based religion is the central focus of ALL false religion....every religion EXCEPT for Christianity. That with enough work, and enough sacrifice, YOU can do it YOURSELF. New age, Eastern religion, the Catholic Church, Buddhism...funny, can you see the threads for the coming WORLD religion? The Bible teaches that Christ's sacrifice was sufficient, His grace is what saves us. Do you not see that it is bl;asphemy to believe that anything you do adds to Christ's death? Nothing you can do can change your sin nature. CHirst and Christ alone changes us. It is so obvious, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49614305 United States 12/13/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51494304 Of course you don't understand because you are led astray from the truth. I asked you which church saves me from hell. And you answered: the church to which I WANT to belong to. DO YOU KNOW WHO THE CHURCH IS? The catholic church of course. Nope... What did Jesus tell the Apostle Peter?? He spoke Aramaic, so he said, You are Kepha and upon this kepha I will build my church. Greek has feminine, masculine names for rock so in translation had to use the masculine(Petros) when referring to peter. Did I just blow your world up? |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm Catholic and the Church took a little bit of a hit for me when they last the previous Pope quit. We are taught that the Holy Spirit guides the selection of the Pope, so why would they have been guided to choose someone that was not going to be able to finish the job. Also, we are taught all things are possible with God and put your trust in the Lord - yet the selected a new Pope which showed they had no trust in the guidance the Lord provided on the previous Pope. Something like that anyway ... probably did not explain it right clearly ... anyway, I still go to Church and believe in doing what is right - but the institution took a hit for me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45287451 Because *You* are the church not the building that holds Mass... To say that MAN is the church. That MAN makes the rules is purely satanic. The Church is the Bride of the Bridegroom.. The Church of CHRIST... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50136252 United States 12/13/2013 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's not forget that we are a church of sinners. It is not the church that changes us, it is God's divine mercy that lifts us up. As for changing the church let us not forget the many 'reformations' that undoubtedly had their changes. But let's not go there. What is important is this grand experiment of God's. It did not end with the fall of man. It did not end with Abraham or Issac or David. It did not end with Moses. It did not end with Jesus either. God is still alive in the world and his revelation continues to unfold to this day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50136252 As for the Vatican's wealth that is a tricky one. The Vatican is also a country. I'm willing to bet if you did a little research you would see the worth of the Vatican is much less than many cites and even many institutions. It is also dependent on how you define wealth. Are we counting centuries old paintings and sculptures as dollars? What about real estate? What about the money and real estate of the churches across the world? It gets messy pretty quick. Although I will point out that Pope Francis has ordered an audit of the finances of the Vatican. Wealth is defined as the Christ defines it, it is simple. It is only those whom oppose him That love, and love to make a lie that make it complex. And the RCC is very complex. Give to feed the poor. Denounce pedofilia & all manner of sexual abuse. Veneration of anything but the Lord. The witchcraft of ceremony. And the pope is a mere man, a nose picker. Average even among men, like the last one who retired, as the one before him & so on. Simple really... No? Yea I was responding to an earlier mention of Vatican wealth. Prolly should have used the quote feature xD Anywho... Complexity. Sure the Catholic Church is complex. So is the winding historical narrative of the bible. So is everything we see in the universe. If God's creation is complex and his revelation of his divine plan is complex it shouldn't surprise you that the Church would be complex as well. Give to the poor feed, denounce pedophilia. Do you believe the Catholic Church doesn't do these things? It has always shocked me how many Christians hate Catholics and are content in hating them without taking the time to do research or talk to a Catholic about what they actually believe. The rates of sexual abuse in the catholic church are, although any positive figure is unacceptable, the same as rates of sexual abuse in the protestant denominations. Naturally the pope is just a man. Just like Jesus choose just men to follow him. He appointed Peter, also just a man who even denied him 3 times, to lead the church, the first pope. This brings us to Apostolic Succession. After Peter another man was selected. We believe and ask for the Holy Spirit's guidance when selecting a Pope because alas, we are left with just men to lead as Jesus is not here right now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3763337 United States 12/13/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3763337 You have been told, you are arguing with yourself. Follow the Bible and Jesus Christ. Denominations are nto a creation of God but of man. If you ask again, we will all know that you are being willfully ignorant. You have that choice. The answer was that everyone has to follow his own church. So that what I do. I follow the catholic church. But you hate that. I hate it? Why would you think that? And the Catholic church is provably wrong on Christian doctrin and full of false teaching, that is based on the BIBLE, I am not making anything up. You are accusing me of hate because I think, from what you have posted so far, that you are smart enough to KNOW what the RCC really is, but that you were raised or converted into it, and it may be tough for you to hear the truth of it. I know several ex-Catholics, that is who you need to talk to...born again Christians who came out of the RCC and who have been where you are. I don't hate you, I am just telling you the truth. And the truth isn't universalism or embracing all religions and being popular....it is Christ and the Bible, that's it. I am talking to you and you can't even answer my simple question. This is called willful ignorance....winning an argument by willfully ignoring the truth. |
webbyBird User ID: 39844352 United States 12/13/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to 25.media.tumblr.com] little nicky pope , haha. great post OP. well well done Last Edited by webbyBird on 12/13/2013 01:55 PM ______________ wing wing |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6:28-29 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
True man of God User ID: 50767214 United States 12/13/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pope is a pedophile who used to be one of Hitler's Youth corp. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1500407 Actually most catholic priests are pedophiles, as poven over and over again during the years. I dare you to google search it You are a liar. Prove with hard evidence THIS pope belonged to any hitler youth camp and is a pedophile. You can't and because you can't yet you discredit this man of God YOU become the bad guy. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pope hugged and kissed a man with tumors all over his face and body? How many of you God fearing Christians here would do Quoting: True man of God 50767214 that? This pope has my respect . He is a good man. I love him. He did it in Public.... That is why you give him Adoration.... GOD sees what people do in private with no public adoration... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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True man of God User ID: 50767214 United States 12/13/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6:28-29 Quoting: christian 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Hhhhhmmmm and nothing else? Seems very wrong. Love and believe in Jesus. But hate and mistrust virtually every mortal on the planet. Seems wrong. I don't believe God wanted that. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6:28-29 Quoting: christian 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Hhhhhmmmm and nothing else? Seems very wrong. Love and believe in Jesus. But hate and mistrust virtually every mortal on the planet. Seems wrong. I don't believe God wanted that. Do you believe the Holy Scriptures or not? That is what you have to ask yourself, and who you trust.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
True Man of God User ID: 50767214 United States 12/13/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pope hugged and kissed a man with tumors all over his face and body? How many of you God fearing Christians here would do Quoting: True man of God 50767214 that? This pope has my respect . He is a good man. I love him. He did it in Public.... That is why you give him Adoration.... GOD sees what people do in private with no public adoration... He did it to set an example. Good for him. Good for humanity. We need such examples. So more will have the love and faith to do such things. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pope hugged and kissed a man with tumors all over his face and body? How many of you God fearing Christians here would do Quoting: True man of God 50767214 that? This pope has my respect . He is a good man. I love him. He did it in Public.... That is why you give him Adoration.... GOD sees what people do in private with no public adoration... He did it to set an example. Good for him. Good for humanity. We need such examples. So more will have the love and faith to do such things. JESUS IS OUR EXAMPLE... He does not need help.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 643103 Canada 12/13/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: christian He spoke Aramaic, so he said, You are Kepha and upon this kepha I will build my church. Greek has feminine, masculine names for rock so in translation had to use the masculine(Petros) when referring to peter. Did I just blow your world up? Not quite that simple: [link to www.catholic.com] |
True man of God User ID: 50767214 United States 12/13/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6:28-29 Quoting: christian 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Hhhhhmmmm and nothing else? Seems very wrong. Love and believe in Jesus. But hate and mistrust virtually every mortal on the planet. Seems wrong. I don't believe God wanted that. Do you believe the Holy Scriptures or not? That is what you have to ask yourself, and who you trust.... The problem is ...anyone can see Jesus anyway they want. From war lord to king if peace. Any type of person can fit Him into any catagory they want. To me Jesus is love and peace and life. He wanted us all to live in peace and love and to not let any worldly things interfere with that. To others he is a war lord who wants everyone to get as rich and be as selfish and bigoted as they want to be. |
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True man of God User ID: 50767214 United States 12/13/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pope hugged and kissed a man with tumors all over his face and body? How many of you God fearing Christians here would do Quoting: True man of God 50767214 that? This pope has my respect . He is a good man. I love him. He did it in Public.... That is why you give him Adoration.... GOD sees what people do in private with no public adoration... He did it to set an example. Good for him. Good for humanity. We need such examples. So more will have the love and faith to do such things. JESUS IS OUR EXAMPLE... He does not need help.... I disagree we need to see great examples of love from MORTALS. To believe only an omnipotent God Man can set such great examples and no one else is not good. Jesus wants us to be as much like him as possible. |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 44720951 United States 12/13/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6:28-29 Quoting: christian 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Hhhhhmmmm and nothing else? Seems very wrong. Love and believe in Jesus. But hate and mistrust virtually every mortal on the planet. Seems wrong. I don't believe God wanted that. Do you believe the Holy Scriptures or not? That is what you have to ask yourself, and who you trust.... The problem is ...anyone can see Jesus anyway they want. From war lord to king if peace. Any type of person can fit Him into any catagory they want. To me Jesus is love and peace and life. He wanted us all to live in peace and love and to not let any worldly things interfere with that. To others he is a war lord who wants everyone to get as rich and be as selfish and bigoted as they want to be. To me Jesus is love and peace and life..AND HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT WHEN SATAN IS ALLOWED TO ROAM THE EARTH UNTIL JESUS RETURNS? Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |