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Egyptian Intelligence Exposed Obama’s Administration Espionage Case With Muslim Brotherhood

 
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A little Christmas gift from Egypt to all the freedom loving and patriotic people of the US, UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Israel, quatar and turkey you traitors may you .... whatever.

This is a long read guys but I made threads before about Obama being involved with the MB, but now we have some intelligence reports published. You want your mind blown and read more details, here it is, in 6 Parts all stages are explained. I will post a summary of each part and you can read all on the link. Enjoy!



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Off Service Magazine published classified documents from the black box of the late former Intelligence Chief, Omar Suleiman written by Dr. Hisham Mahmoud Youness.

Introduction

The documents contain secrets about events which took place since Obama‘s first and last visit to Egypt on 4/6/2009. Mubarak knew that it wasn’t a normal visit, but it was a message from the United States addressed to Mubarak regime to leave, and this was the start of the removal scenario. (Mubarak former president stepped down after the 25th of Jan events).

These classified documents published by off service magazine, sparked in my mind the Egyptian National Officer Mohamed Mabrouk‘s investigations report, who was the main eyewitness on the espionage case of Former President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood Organization with foreign Intelligence during the same period events stated in Omar Suleiman’s papers, but Suleiman papers contained more terrifying details.

Mabrouk reported many calls and meetings inside and outside Egypt Between Morsi and Brotherhood with different foreign Intelligence elements. Mabrouk was assassinated by terrorists elements hired by Muslim Brotherhood to do their dirty work. Like Omar Suleiman confirmed in his papers, Muslim Brotherhood Organization doesn’t do the confrontation on the real ground by themselves, but they use other Militants and Jihadist in violence, terror attacks and assassinations missions.

Before Obama’s visit to Egypt, Omar Suleiman provided a classified detailed report file to Mubarak revealed the big conspiracy threads against Egypt. After Obama’s visit to Egypt, Mubarak has totally given up on The idea of his son’s inheritance of power in Egypt, and he also made a full perception of his retirement idea. In addition, he decided to assign Omar Suleiman as his deputy because at this stage he had a full trust and confidence in Suleiman, specially after he has put in his hands the threads of the big conspiracy against Egypt.
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Since I know half of you or more than half won't even click on the link to read the full parts, I will post the passages I think are most important, rest you can find at link.

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Part 1 Mubarak knew that it was time to leave after Obama’s visit to Egypt

The 4th of June 2009 was a milestone point in the Egyptian History. At this day, Mubarak realized that Omar Suleiman’s previous warnings and his alerts to Mubarak in paying a serious attention to the development of the United States strategy in dealing with Egypt, was absolutely right and accurate.

Omar Suleiman warned Mubarak after Obama won the presidency post, that this event is a milestone point. Suleiman explained that a specific current in the States achieved victory and will direct the US to a certain direction.

Suleiman saw Obama as the black man who was placed by the American Solid Heart as the head of the States, in order to execute the black scenario in the whole Middle East area.

Suleiman believed that Barack Hussein Obama was representing the Solid Heart in America (Suleiman’s definition to the word “Solid Heart”, it’s the league who is ruling the United States which consist of Intelligence, Pentagon, that are not at all effected every time comes a new US president ). Suleiman added that Barack Hussein Obama was the right opportunity for this US administration, this is why there were great efforts to make Obama wins the Presidency. This is what his opponent candidate timidly declared during the presidential elections, without any further details. But Omar Suleiman had further details than this declaration.

Before Obama reached power in the US, America had gone through crucial period which was more than the US could handle, but for the US administration it was very necessary. But this crucial period has totally gone when Barack Hussein Obama reached power.

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Obama realized that he was actually in Egypt as a man who was declaring a war on Egypt from inside the Egyptian Territory and at the presence of the legitimate State’s President, but Obama was acting out of the president of a country ruling the world who got so bored and fed up from these small entities which getting US AID from the United States of America, while they are not showing obedience nor accepting orders, but they were objecting the US orders and not acting according to what is required from them.

Specifically, Obama whispered in Hilary’s ears that this is going to be the last visit of an American President to Egypt. Because Egypt is not going to exist for long.


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Part 2 The details of Muslim Brotherhood Organization agreement with the American CIA on Brotherhood taking over the power in Egypt, just few months before the 25th of January 2011

Omar Suleiman was not just a military Officer who turned by coincidence to an Intelligence man, but he was one of those who practiced their work exclusively, and due to this and after things became more clearer to him, he decided to move The Egyptian Intelligence Gravity Center to Turkey. This was not understood at this time even from the cadres who did exactly what they were told based on the new destination of Omar Suleiman.

Omar Suleiman decided to take this step of moving the Intelligence gravity center to Turkey, because he was after something he realized but he was unable to see, and he felt it but he couldn’t hold it or catch it, and for this, he put many new programs from the red words for Internet communications. The red words in the concept of Intelligence men, are the words that if get pronounced, or written, then the eavesdropping devices start to record everything till there is a need for it or a need to get back to it.

On the opposite to what may anyone think, these programs were not including security agreements between Egypt and the States, but a group of Egyptian experts worked on the development of these devices.

Suleiman did not trust much to deal with USA in an open agreed way and he used to say that Israel deal with the USA in a different way than what the world actually see. And he was right about this because despite that Israel had and still have very strong relations with the CIA, but Israel doesn’t mind to take precautions against the States and practice some espionage acts and anti espionage in the American territory.

It was also the same inside the Egyptian Intelligence System, but after 2009 things started to be more severe. The American security bodies sent back the semesters envoys to Egypt, and they tightened control and monitor the Egyptian Embassy correspondences and also the diplomats meetings in The States.

The fruitful results that the Egyptian Intelligence gained form the intensive work on the Turkish territories was really a surprise even to Omar Suleiman himself. During 2010 and specifically in February, the Egyptian surveillance elements spotted constant meetings for 3 days in one of the secured houses in Ankara. The elements who attended these meeting were from the US Intelligence CIA, three brotherhood leaders who reached Ankara a day earlier before the first day of the meeting.

The first meeting was a closed one and included only the three Brotherhood leaders and two US intelligence elements from the CIA, then in the evening a Turkish Intelligent Officer joined them and the meeting lasted till the the first hours of the next day.

In the second day, another meeting was held and included The leader of the Qatari Intelligence and security body who left to Doha at the end of the day and was accompanied by one of the US Intelligence elements.

In the third day, a meeting was held included all the previous mentioned parties including The leader of the Qatari Intelligence and security body and also the US Intelligence element who left with him to Doha the previous night. In the evening, Brotherhood leaders left to Doha, then two days later they went to Ankara after they have met with one of the Turkish President Assistants before they finally went to Egypt through Doha in the next day.

The Egyptian Intelligence knew all what have been discussed in these 3 days meeting.

In brief, The three Brotherhood elements first reached Ankara through Doha, they entered under cover of working among the special Medical team in medical support field of Gaza Strip, under an Islamic sign. And then in Doha, they were given Qatari Passports which they used to leave Doha headed to Ankara. Then after the meetings were over, the Brotherhood elements after they traveled from Turkey to Doha, they used their Egyptian Passports in their way back to Egypt.

Recordings of Meetings between the three Brotherhood elements and the CIA Intelligence elements, they discussed the Scenario of after Mubarak leaves his post. The US Intelligence elements were insisting that Muslim Brotherhood leaders to provide them with information about their sleeping cells elements in the Egyptian Military. But the Brotherhood insisted that this was out of the question and can’t be revealed even to their friends in Washington. But they confirmed to CIA elements that their sleeping cells inside the Egyptian Army do exist and they are very effective and capable of making a difference when it is necessary and needed.

After Brotherhood left the meeting, The US Intelligence elements estimated that Muslim Brotherhood were exaggerating about their real power and they evaluated their elements power more than what it is in reality. Whether by ignorance or because of their desire to offer themselves as the right safe replacement of Mubarak Regime.

The attendance of the Turkish Intelligence in the meetings was the representation of the Middle East cell in the Turkish Intelligence, which started to be active couple of years earlier and Turkey’s participation in forming the new Middle East map.The Turkish CIA element presence in the meetings was more to a communications Officer with the Turkish Political Leadership than any other thing.

In the meetings they also discussed the form of movement during the next period and the type of support and finance and the possibility that Qatar provides a safe haven to the Brotherhood Organization, in case the arrangements and the plan fail. One of the Brotherhood leaders said in one of the meetings, that Muslim Brotherhood Organization are not willing to go through this stage again, like the stage of Nasser. (Muslim Brotherhood failed attempt to assassinate Nasser Late President of Egypt)

The Qatari Chief of Intelligence and security adopted particular amounts of money to finance all movements on the real ground during the next stage, and Qatar contributed with 3 Billion Dollars cash and the transfer was outside the scope of the banking system.

At this stage, Omar Suleiman had in hands all the conspiracy threads proofs which involved many parties from the inside and the outside. Suleiman informed Mubarak of all what he had in hands, but Mubarak’s comment was surprising to Suleiman. Mubarak confirmed to Suleiman that Qatar doesn’t know how to operate in Egypt. This was the exact words of Mubarak.

Suleiman explained to Mubarak that there is only to ways to get out of this swamp, either to get Muslim Brotherhood Organization involved in the political life and put their organization under the microscope then explode the whole case. Or, Omar Suleiman to provide the Egyptian Concerned Authorities with all the documentations and proofs of this conspiracy and he insisted that the civil Judiciary to handle the whole case and not the Military Judiciary.

Suleiman was against that Military Judiciary handle the case against Brotherhood, because his point of view was that the procedures of Civil Judiciary takes a long time and this is suitable for this specific case of MB because it will put the Muslim Brotherhood Organization under the microscope and reveal their reality in front of the Egyptian People.

But Mubarak had another point of view which was totally different than what Suleiman suggested. Mubarak said to Suleiman:” Do you want Egypt to admit that we violated the sovereignty of three friendly countries? United States of America, Qatar and Turkey and to admit that we practiced intelligence acts on the territories of these countries? If we do as you suggested, the Americans will go crazy and at this moment, they might do something in this regard.” Mubarak didn’t mention what was this something that the US may do to Egypt.

After what Mubarak said to Suleiman, Suleiman had his hands tied up. Mubarak asked Suleiman to keep him up to date about all information that may occurs in the future in this regard.

But despite that Omar Suleiman had his hands tied up, he continued working without a presidential Authorization and turned his Intelligence missions and Operations to an International hunting across Europe. And not only across Europe, but the International hunting was extended and spread by mid 2010 to England and from England to the rest of the European countries, where Suleiman monitored meetings which took place between Muslim Brotherhood Representatives and Israeli Representatives.

These meetings between Brotherhood representatives and Israeli representatives were eight long meetings during the rest of mid summer in the following countries with the same order: England, Belgium, France, Holland, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, then Australia.

Omar Suleiman most worries and fears concentrated on The Israeli Mossad’s special interest by the end of the year, towards Khaled Said case. (Khaled Said case was the young man who died before 25th of Jan 2011, he was arrested by two informers, suspected to have drugs while walking in the street. The minute he saw the informers, he swallowed the drugs and the two informers dealt with him in a brutal way. The final verdict of the court case number 15438 for year 2010, was 7 years jail sentence to both informers and the verdict put into consideration the friends of the victim testimonies who confirmed that he was a drug addict and he was practicing thugs acts and he had previous criminal records of thugs charges and drugs possession prior to his death. Also the court based its verdict on the autopsy report that stated the victim died from swallowing the drugs which got stuck in his throat).

Omar Suleiman monitored The activity of the Israeli Mossad through some of the Israeli diplomats elements inside Egypt who were sending reports to Israel about the possibility of developing the Egyptian Middle Class Sector’s capabilities on overthrowing Mubarak Regime according to intensive incitement.

Omar Suleiman had then a clear vision of what the Israeli Mossad was participating in. At this specific stage, Omar Suleiman had confirmed information that the Israeli Mossad presented an Intelligence report to the Israeli Ministers council warning Israel from making any commercial or trading contracts with Mubarak Regime during the next period, and to consider accurate confirmed information that Mubarak Regime will be taken down before the end of 2011.

Beside the Israeli Mossad report, an Israeli element of the Mossad explained verbally to the Israeli Minsters Council in addition to their report, that Mubarak is not that smart, and if Mubarak’s reaction to what is happening in Egypt is based on that he counts and depend mainly on the non-active huge Egyptian Middle Class who fear everything and anything that may happen and they prefer to keep things as they are because they fear what it is Unknown to them; Then Mubarak is mistaken.

Because according to the Israeli Intelligence elements, the wheel has already moved and nothing else really matters, specially that Israel got definite confirmations from inside the Muslim Brotherhood Organization, that what the Mossad is confirming match with Brotherhood confirmations, after they both (Mossad and Brotherhood) had intensive communications during the previous days before the Mossad issued their report. In addition, the Israeli Intelligence element referred to other previous communications with Rabbi Marc Schneier.
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Part 3 The Americans refused that Khairat Alshater (Brotherhood chief’s deputy) or Mohamed Abu Elfotuh (Ex Brotherhood leader who was a jihadi fighting with Al-Qaeda and was giving them religious lectures) to take over the Presidency post. Instead, USA imposed on Brotherhood Organization and insisted that Mohamed Morsi takes over the Presidency post in Egypt.

The Israeli Mossad was not a magical solution and the man who realized this very well, was Omar Suleiman. Suleiman had many rounds with the Mossad. But Suleiman realized also that what distinguishes the Israeli Mossad is the competency. Despite that Israel is interested in other parts of the world, but their major case was the countries located on their borders and the most important Country with further extensions was Egypt.

The Americans did n’t want that Egypt becomes another new Iran that they don’t recognize. There, all parties involved in the conspiracy against Egypt had to reveal their cards so they will be known to the brains which were running both Intelligence bodies. (Americans and Israelis).

After many rounds and conversations between Americans and Israelis Intelligence which were sponsored and followed up by both countries administrations, they both agreed to let the Mossad handles the big part of Egypt’s issue and to continue the coordination. Specially that Israel at this stage explained that they were moving on the real ground on the Egyptian Scene and they had many tools and the secret name of these tools was: Marc Schneier or Rabbi Marc Schneier.

Marc Schneier or Rabbi Marc Schneier is the man who made Israel owns just one year prior to 2011 events, a direct relation between Israel and the Muslim Brotherhood Organization. The surprise was that Rabbi Schneier prepared, invited and supervised the 8 meetings between Muslim Brotherhood and the Israelis under the cover of the Jews Muslim Conference before year 2011.

Mubarak knew about these 8 meetings which were held between Israel and Brotherhood, after Omar Suleiman informed him of the details of these meetings.
But Mubarak decided to deal with the issue that now that he knew about it, it didn’t mean anything, specially that he confirmed to Suleiman that he got confirmations from His Minister Of Interior that the Interior Ministry was having a full control on the Muslim Brotherhood Organization!

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more of Part 3 because this is important!


The Muslim Brotherhood refrain from appearing as a ruling authority during the very difficult years which will follow the 25th of Jan 2011 Revolution

Muslim Brotherhood must agree on the above mentioned scenario in order to stay away and prevent facing very hard and difficult confrontations that the Americans and the Israelis were expecting to take place in Egypt.


The big difficulties that the next president and the next Regime are going to face won’t give them any space or any chance to finish their ruling period, and this is why Muslim Brotherhood must have their hands totally clean when they climb to the governance platform.

When the right moment comes for Brotherhood to take over the power in Egypt, only then financial supports will start appearing so people would link these financial supports and the Egyptian economy refreshing to the Muslim Brotherhood regime. This economy improvement will be followed by a remarkable security stability in the whole country. And only then, the picture would seem like Muslim Brotherhood have reached power in Egypt by the people’s will and general acceptance. It will be very hard on Brotherhood’s opponents who are in the meantime very hostile to the United States, to overthrow the Muslim Brotherhood from power.

This closed tight circle who held the above mentioned meeting, excluded many Muslim Brotherhood names from inside the organization and also excluded Mohamed Abu Elfotuh’s name.

It is not correct nor accurate what some thought about Abu Elfotuh‘s resignation from the Muslim Brotherhood Organization on March 2011. Many thought and even believed that Abu Elfotuh resigned from MB organization because some kind of conspiracy or whatever. The truth is, It was mainly because his name was not suggested in this meeting and he was not included in this closed tight circle.

But as it is known about Muslim Brotherhood, they never commit to any promises or agreements all over their history.
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Omar Suleiman Knew a lot of information regarding Mohamed Morsi

Suleiman knew a lot about Mohamed Morsi even when he was studying in the United States. During Mashhour’s visit to the US, he was in contact with some elements of the Islamic Center in the States. He also got in contact with some FBI and CIA officers who led him to Mohamed Morsi, the smart student who was kind to his brothers and he was a friend to many good Americans.

At that period Mohamed Morsi was suffering in his studies in the States because of his poor English language. This part was really weird. Morsi was so weak in English but despite that fact, he never failed in his studies! the reasons remain a mystery.

Morsi was coming from a very poor family and was obliged to join the university’s city during studying in order to be able to save expenses. Despite his poverty he managed to host Mashour in his home which was no difference than the American Middle Class homes.

During that time, Mashhour informed Morsi that he was working on a list to revive the Private and the International Muslim Brotherhood Organization. Before Mashhour finished his list, Morsi actually became a member in the Brotherhood Organization.

After Morsi returned to Egypt, He climbed so fast and in no time and became all of a sudden the political department responsible of Brotherhood Organization in Sharqia City. Then he was pushed in the 2000 elections and he became mysteriously the Chief of the Brotherhood members in the Egyptian Parliament and also a member of the Brotherhood Headquarter Organization.

While year 2000 has witnessed the arrest of many Brotherhood leaders and members and they were put on trials, Mohamed Morsi was never arrested or caught in that period. Omar Suleiman knew that Alshater asked Morsi many times, how come he was not caught or got arrested like the other Brotherhood leaders and members?!

The case of Alazar University and Muslim Brotherhood Militias in 2006, the majority of Brotherhood leaders got arrested including Alshater, but Morsi was the only Brotherhood leader who was never been arrested or put on trials. Morsi was always coming up with excuses every time the Muslim Brotherhood were going to have secret regulatory meetings. He only got arrested in the events of Judges movement and was jailed for 7 months in Tora prison but he didn’t stay in prison as an ordinary prisoner, he stayed in the prison farm and during the 7 month jail he seemed like someone who was taking a vacation.

In 2005, Mohamed Morsi supported Gamal Mubarak to inherit the presidency from Mubarak the father. Mohamed Morsi had a meeting in the presidential palace with Zakaria Azmy, the Chief of Presidential Cabinet at that period in order to make a plan for the Muslim Brotherhood Organization to support Gamal Mubarak for the presidency. And In return, Brotherhood to get Parliament seats and a number of Ministerial Posts.

But an element inside the Presidential Palace leaked the details of the meeting to one of the Kuwaitis Newspaper. Since then, the distance diverged between Brotherhood and the presidential palace.

Hilary Clinton Threatened Marshal Tantawy before the Final announcement of the Presidential Elections

At the end, it was Mohamed Morsi and not anyone else that USA wanted and supported to become the President of Egypt. US support to Mohamed Morsi was not normal, but it was to the extent that Hilary Clinton personally came specially to Egypt and had a meeting with Marshal Tantawy, Former Minister of Defense just to discuss one matter.

Hilary warned Marshal Tantawy of the serious and bad consequences if any of the other candidates for the presidency won this elections. Hilary confirmed to Tantawy that the United States of America are not ready and won’t accept to deal with symbols from the old regime.
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Part 4 Obama gave the Green Light for the operation ” The Egyptian Swamp ” after his last visit to Israel

In his last visit to the region, Obama visited Israel, Palestinian Authority and Jordan. Omar Suleiman not only predicted the purpose behind this visit, but he also confirmed it. He just died before living the events he expected to happen.

Omar Suleiman said that this visit of Obama to Israel wont be for the purpose of discussing security development or the capabilities of The Israelis Army or whatever, this visit as Suleiman confirmed is going to be the green light for the operation “Egyptian Swamp”

The innocents from the Egyptian people who believed in the 25th of Jan 2011 and that it was a revolution for social justice, freedom and decent life, were the ones who paid their lives for nothing but the US strategy and new policy for the new Middle East map. It was from the first minute a deliberate pushing to a totally different direction than these innocents thought.

The Egyptian Swamp was the executive form which contained:

Names, individuals, Groups and logistic facilities.

Economy part consist of: specific inflation rate, the amount of deficit in the provisions of basic services.

Real tests conducted by specific trained individuals to test the speed of security bodies response to different stimuli and the time of response according to the status of roads and traffic, etc…

Incitement of hatred among people against the regime to the extent that a cooperation with the representatives of the regime is totally excluded.

Preparations and readiness of the people to practice violence against the local security forces.

Realizing the capability of getting away from punishment according to the various and multiple Militias supporting an individual or a group or certain currents.

The Egyptian Military in the middle of all these events was not able to interfere, otherwise the Military would be accused of a military coup and turning against the Regime legitimacy and would be the direct cause of applying international punishments on Egypt by the United Nations.

Omar Suleiman reached the conclusion that Egypt is going to be dragged into the swamp and it will be just a matter of time before a foreign power interferes in word and deed inside the Egyptian territories.
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Part 5 US AFRICOM Task to attack Egypt under the banner and the cover of ” Protected Areas “.

USACOM OR AFRICOM is related to the 6th US leadership which is specialized in observing Africa. In 2003, 26 countries had a meeting in Istanbul under the frame of the Middle East conversation development. The US had at the beginning an American based called “Ashton” which was established among the Moroccan Borders. This base was not a US Military one, but it was just a communications base and it had a major role in directing, administrating and jamming communications signals during the events of Jan 25, 2011 in Egypt.

On 7/2/2007 a major development happened to the AFRICOM. George Bush Junior declared the Official formation of the 6th US military leadership AFRICOM or the United Military Leadership in Africa. Bush Junior confirmed that the purpose of this leadership formation was to develop the Military cooperation with the African countries and to conduct Military Operations when it is necessary and needed. Bush added that these military operations will be authorized by the United States Government. ( Bush did not mention by the United Nations, he said the United States). He also mentioned that the military operations will target the capability of Armed Extremists against innocents and civilians who get killed by Extremists.

Here we must ask a very important question: what is the definition of Armed Extremists? And what is the definition of Innocents Civilians? And if the concept of Bush Junior will be applied on the Egyptian status, would Egypt then need a declaration from anybody out there for the interference of AFRICOM Power inside the Egyptian Borders or even that Egypt will be forced to cooperate with this US power in the first place?

AFRICOM is much bigger than being an operations Base, that’s what the following figures confirm:

- The annual Budget of AFRICOM started by about 90 Million USD.

- The annual spending on AFRICOM is 392 Million USD for the leadership center which is composed of 500 experts in Intelligence, communications, analysis and reports. Experts from foreign affairs, financial, security, commerce, energy, agriculture and FBI Department.

- The numbers of permanent employees are 1300 employee.

- The leadership in AFRICOM is not only limited on the military side, but it also include structures, civil employees from the American agency for the International cooperation “USAID” and the Relief Institutions, Humanitarian work and Non-Governmental Organizations.

Based on all the above figures, AFRICOM can cover any military presence under the cover of Humanitarian work, like Minorities Protection or Relief works…etc. And the most important factor is that it possess strong communications with the Civil Community Organizations inside Egypt.

According to last updating that Omar Suleiman had in this regard during the events of the 25th of Jan 2011, the training operations conducted by AFRICOM in the African continent, makes it capable of mobilizing 45 thousands soldiers from different Africans nationalities, were previously trained under AFRICOM leadership and led by 3200 African Officers leaders.

All these forces can be mobilized and moved during max one week from the date of orders issuance, wherever their final destination is located. Even if this huge force is obliged to go through hostile deserts to reach its final destination, which became an existing factor, specifically after the fall of Libya.
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Truth can start a war but the people deserve to know.
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Part 6 The Last Chance for the Survival Of The Egyptian State.

What Omar Suleiman left behind was not unknown or mysterious, it was facts, proofs and evidences, meetings and recordings which were not at all based on Conspiracy theory like they always claim that Egyptians are living and drowning in their own imaginary Conspiracy theory!

Egypt was actually occupied by a secret armed terrorist International Organization supported and financed by the United States of America and their allies, and Egypt had to be saved from this swamp which was the introduction to a new form of colonial nations occupation.

There was a historical disagreement between Omar Suleiman and Marshal Tantawy (former defense minister). It was not a conflict but just two different schools.

Marshal Tantawy didn’t listen to other military leaders in the Military council. It is not a secret to mention that Tantawy had a very organized and disciplined Army under any circumstances, but many in the Egyptian Military did not want Marshal Tantawy to continue in his post and neither they wanted the Chief of Staff at that period Samy Anan to continue in his post.

Many inside the Military Councils tried to assure and convince Marshal Tantawy not to pay attention and to totally disregard Obama’s administration direct threatens. The US made it clear that they won’t allow any candidate from Mubarak Regime to win this presidential elections. And they made it clear that they want and accept Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohamed Morsi to become the next President of Egypt.

Leaders inside the Military council in this period assured Marshal Tantawy that the Egyptian Military is capable of protecting Egypt against any National Security threatens. Muslim Brotherhood on the other hands threatened publicly that they will burn the whole country if Mohamed Morsi Brotherhood candidate doesn’t win the presidential elections.

The US and the Muslim Brotherhood threatens exceeded all red lines and limits to the extent that Muslim Brotherhood have terrorized the elections committee and put them under severe pressures to announce the presidential results by declaring Mohamed Morsi’s name is the next president of Egypt. And they did n’t allow any investigations on all the presidential elections violations.

Just a few hours before the declarations of the elections results, someone swarmed the elections result with the correct figures of voting to Ahmed Shafik the competitor of the Brotherhood candidate. Then the elections committee were more than 3 hours late in declaring the result and without any given reasons for this big delay or any explanation.

During the last hours before declaring the result, there were hard attempts from many whether from inside the military council or outside the council who knew about all the US and Muslim Brotherhood serious threatens and pressures, tried to convince Marshal Tantawy not to surrender to inside or outside threatens. But it was in vain, Marshal Tantawy gave himself up to fears circle and these circles were not based on emptiness; these fears were based on real serious threatens.

A previous conversation between Hilary Clinton and Marshal Tantawy, who was at this period representing the American National Security Body and the interests of Arms companies and what is beyond and deeper than this. What enhanced Hilary’s abilities on putting pressures on Marshal Tantawy, that she made it clear to him that Obama decided to leave the whole file to her, and whatever decisions she will make, Obama is not going to have any comments on it.

The documents Omar Suleiman left behind, as much as they contained serious and terrifying information and details which explained and answered many questions, in a part of these same documents Suleiman indicated the weakest points in the whole conspiracy swamp plan, in order to show us the safe way out of it, which are as follows:

- The swamp plan need many elements which were mentioned previously. There are already fears from the plan failure which will be based on unexpected changes.

- Fears that Israel in a recklessness moment may invade Sinai, or start small operations on the borders. Israel wants to get rid of the bigger neighbor that they fear even in their weakest moments.

- Fears that Mohamed Morsi will step down. But he is not going to step down because he will realize that stepping down means the signal to start many operations that won’t be neither in favor of his Organization nor in favor of Brotherhood supporters. Morsi will hold strongly to the authority after he will commit a lot of bloodshed even until the end of the state itself.

- Fears that the Oppositions will manage to adopt popular situations and practice the same pressures that Islamist were already practicing against them. But this possibility have vaporized on the real ground because the Egyptian opposition is nothing but a jarred entity against each other and it doesn’t really care for anything except its own safety.

- Fears that Egypt will get big amounts of funding and financing which will contribute in calming down the situations before they explode. These funding won’t be from Qatar nor loans from IMF and not even businessmen reconciliations money, but it will be funding that the normal man in the street may feel. This amount of money is going to be equal to Egypt’s deficit budget. But maybe it won’t happen at all!

- Fears that the Egyptian Military move in the suitable moment. They feared this moment that the military move because this move will cause the collapse of the whole conspiracy.

This move moment will only come right before the collapse of the Egyptian State and it will be enough for the Military to save the country.

But this moment will never come unless the great majority of the Egyptian people have their own desire and own will to remove the Muslim Brotherhood Regime and their Brotherhood President.

This moment if it comes, Egyptians will need to see justice taking place, because not only Muslim Brotherhood and their president will face fair trials for all the crimes they have committed in Egypt, but also for more crimes which they will commit against the people.

That was Omar Suleiman way out and safety before the collapse of Egypt, he realized that only the military can save the country but at the right moment and based only on the Egyptians will and desire.


Omar Suleiman had accurate visualization based on the reality of concerned operations rooms to all the proceedings of the 25th of Jan 2011, minute by minute, with full names, specific locations and places and specific timing. Omar Suleiman was planning to use this base of visualize reality if he would reach the presidency or to cooperate with the one who should have been the legitimate President, so Suleiman would present all what he owned of evidences and documentations to the Egyptian Judiciary and to the Egyptian people. Suleiman was certain that once the Egyptian people will learn the truth, they are the only ones who would correct the track which went sidetrack.

Omar Suleiman decided to leave Egypt before he faces the destiny that someone like him possessed this kind of black box would definitely face.

Omar Suleiman died on 19/7/2012 in Cleveland Hospital in the States after he suffered in his last days from lung and heart problems and he died of a heart attack while he was having medical tests!

God bless his soul.



But the day did come - even more than before do I realize that we really had no other choice!
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Truth can start a war but the people deserve to know.
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They were going to start a war by deception - but if you read all, you will know why that didn't work. It's not easy to go against so many of us. And as the author said rightly - the US was caught spying so much in the last months, especially listening in on other world leaders - did anything happen to them?
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The original source which translated this version - here their first article explaining, you can translate in google.

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Now it makes sense why they tried to assassinate Omar Suleiman during and shortly after Jan 25. I know of 2 attempts that failed, but some said there were 3. We also know now who was behind the killings or responsible for the escalation from Jan25-now.
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This is one of the last things he said and kept warning about until he died of a heart attack in the US in a clinic!!! And this is exactly what we started seeing with all the attacks that happened on the borders!

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

Egyptian presidential candidate Omar Suleiman addressed the relations between Egypt and Israel for the first time since he announced his candidacy earlier this month.


In an interview with Egyptian daily al-Youm al-Saba'a, Suleiman analyzed relations between the two neighboring countries in the wake of the Arab Spring and the ongoing terrorist activity originating from the Sinai Peninsula. "I'm fearful of the price Egypt will have to pay if Israel decides to reoccupy Sinai," he said.

Asked whether he plans to reoccupy Sinai, Suleiman replied: "It's possible that Israel will confront us and use its national security as an excuse to do so. Israelis are experts at presenting such excuses to the world."



He further said that he is fearful of misleading signals that could lead to unwanted confrontations. "If the Israelis reenter Sinai, they won't be quick to leave it again. Egypt could pay a heavy price if such an event occurred," he said.
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This is one of the last things he said and kept warning about until he died of a heart attack in the US in a clinic!!! And this is exactly what we started seeing with all the attacks that happened on the borders!

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

Egyptian presidential candidate Omar Suleiman addressed the relations between Egypt and Israel for the first time since he announced his candidacy earlier this month.


In an interview with Egyptian daily al-Youm al-Saba'a, Suleiman analyzed relations between the two neighboring countries in the wake of the Arab Spring and the ongoing terrorist activity originating from the Sinai Peninsula. "I'm fearful of the price Egypt will have to pay if Israel decides to reoccupy Sinai," he said.

Asked whether he plans to reoccupy Sinai, Suleiman replied: "It's possible that Israel will confront us and use its national security as an excuse to do so. Israelis are experts at presenting such excuses to the world."



He further said that he is fearful of misleading signals that could lead to unwanted confrontations. "If the Israelis reenter Sinai, they won't be quick to leave it again. Egypt could pay a heavy price if such an event occurred," he said.
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This was in April 2013, reading the comments of some readers of this article is very eye opening!!
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You I don't expect to see the larger picture - by your meme's. If you read everything you would have noticed how Israel and MB and US are in the same bed. Top of the Pyramid are all the same!!! Look at your Israel loyalists in position of power in your Government as well. The whole thing was about destroying Egypt, redrawing the maps and Israel getting the big chunk of it.
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Do you cover the role of the NGOs in all this?
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Do you cover the role of the NGOs in all this?
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Read Part 5 - they mention NGO's amongst others. But it doesn't go into details - but that explains the raids and the US citizens that were shipped out after being charged. The whole thing is a mystery to me still how and who let them go. If I remember correctly it was in December 2011 and early 2012, mostly Freedom House.

Now we focus on those groups here that have ties to them and have been trained by US NGO's, like April 6 Movement.
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So what happens next?
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The names listed on the Qatar document match several names mentioned in the Almesryoon article, including Mohamed Beltagy, listed as the last name in the Qatari document as being paid an annual “gift”/bribe of $850,000 annually in U.S. dollars.

The document above lists “gifts” which amount to bribes being paid to the Mursi government members in annual payments of between $750,000 and $850,000 in U.S. dollars each. The sums amount to tens of millions of dollars in bribes. The nature or purpose for these payments is unknown but is definitely marked as “gifts”.

Here is a direct translation from the newspaper:

“A judicial source stated that the Attorney General Hisham Barakat received a number of filed complaints over the past few days. These complaints accuse leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood and leaders of the centrist party of receiving bribes thinly disguised as ‘gifts’, paid through the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

Almesryoon reports that both the U.S. and Qatar paid bribes to Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood leaders. The document above serves as very strong evidence that Qatar did in fact do just that.

The signatures seen in Figure 1 means the document will be used as evidence in the upcoming trials set to begin on the 25th.
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Document at link - I will post some things from the past I posted here that has been in the press or on tv here.
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So what happens next?
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They are all on trial, but everytime they go into the court room, they cause commotion, being unruly, shouting they are not recognizing the court and judiciary, shouting slogans, refusing everything, 2 trials have been stopped so far.

I wonder what would happen in America in this case? Would you just do the trial without them present? They're trying everything in their power to stop the trials to continue.
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Speaking yesterday on Bitna al-Kibir, a live TV show, Tahani al-Gebali, Vice President of the Supreme Constitutional Court in Egypt, said the time was nearing when all the conspiracies against Egypt would be exposed—conspiracies explaining why the Obama administration is so vehemently supportive of the Muslim Brotherhood, whose terrorism has, among other atrocities, caused the destruction of some 80 Christian churches in less than one week.

Al-Gebali referred to “documents and proofs” which Egypt’s intelligence agencies possess and how “the time for them to come out into the open has come.” In the course of her discussion on how these documents record massive financial exchanges between international bodies and the Muslim Brotherhood, she said: “Obama’s brother is one of the architects of investment for the international organization of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Here the confused host stopped her, asking her to repeat what she just said, which she did, with complete confidence, adding “If the matter requires it, then we must inform our people”—apparently a reference to Obama’s support for the Brotherhood against the state of Egypt, which is causing the latter to call all bets off, that is, causing Egyptian officials to spill the beans as to the true nature of the relationship between the U.S., the Brotherhood, and Egypt.

She did not mention which of the U.S president’s brother’s she was referring to, but earlier it was revealed that Obama’s brother, Malik Obama, was running an African nonprofit closely linked to the Brotherhood as well as the genocidal terrorist of Sudan, Omar al-Bashir.
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This ties in a bit... not all politicians are corrupt. He talks about countries supporting the Muslim brotherhood and how different countries are supporting them.
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link in 2nd post is good to read

Thread: >>> BREAKING <<< Egyptian Official Ties Barack Obama’s Brother Malik Obama to muslim Brotherhood
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My original take on this back then was that we were knee deep in this which made no sense at all. It was clear from the git go that assuming ther were supposedly free elections THE ONLY POSSIBLE WINNER was the MB period. They were the only organized political faction left at the time. Note the word ORGANIZED it is important to the outcome. Then these crazies took power and the people realized that this group of cuckoos were as oppressive as or more so than the previous regime leading to the overthrow of Morsi and his fundamentalist cadre. Most would think that the provisional Gov prior to elections was the one the MB was warned against joining because it would not endure long. But what if the real FIRST Gov was the FIRST ELECTED GOV and the only ones who could win were the MB. In that event they would quickly become transparent and driven fromoffice one way or another and completely discredited not only in Egypt but rather throughout the Arab world. In otherwords the whole intent from the begining was just that.
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This ties in a bit... not all politicians are corrupt. He talks about countries supporting the Muslim brotherhood and how different countries are supporting them.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks for that - yes of course, in my original post I named the countries involved in our conspiracy to destroy Egypt, not just collapse the Regime, but for the benefit of Israel for land and the others who knows what they were trying to get.

What stuck out was "A President that will run the Middle East like his own shop" - yeah...they tried and it didn't work. MB is set up in a way that sometimes shocked us, their GLOBAL network and support from powerful rich people including Politicians and Leaders. They claim to be moderate and don't practice violence, but in my original post in the link it explains what they do. They are basically the grassroots, the organizers etc...and they have close ties to all foreign intelligence agencies and influential figures in Israel (Rabbi Schneier), Qatar, US, UK (MB HQ there conducting all their media propaganda since we kicked them out), Germany and France and who knows which other countries. Oh yeah forgot the Traitor to Egypt and Syria - Turkey!
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This ties in a bit... not all politicians are corrupt. He talks about countries supporting the Muslim brotherhood and how different countries are supporting them.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks for that - yes of course, in my original post I named the countries involved in our conspiracy to destroy Egypt, not just collapse the Regime, but for the benefit of Israel for land and the others who knows what they were trying to get.

What stuck out was "A President that will run the Middle East like his own shop" - yeah...they tried and it didn't work. MB is set up in a way that sometimes shocked us, their GLOBAL network and support from powerful rich people including Politicians and Leaders. They claim to be moderate and don't practice violence, but in my original post in the link it explains what they do. They are basically the grassroots, the organizers etc...and they have close ties to all foreign intelligence agencies and influential figures in Israel (Rabbi Schneier), Qatar, US, UK (MB HQ there conducting all their media propaganda since we kicked them out), Germany and France and who knows which other countries. Oh yeah forgot the Traitor to Egypt and Syria - Turkey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51495028


PS: With all those ties, I forgot to add, they are the one's who organize the jihadis, terrorists - and they used them against us and then claimed to be innocent. I guess this should make it clear now what "Terrorism" and a "Jihadi" is and who funds them for what purpose.
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My original take on this back then was that we were knee deep in this which made no sense at all. It was clear from the git go that assuming ther were supposedly free elections THE ONLY POSSIBLE WINNER was the MB period. They were the only organized political faction left at the time. Note the word ORGANIZED it is important to the outcome. Then these crazies took power and the people realized that this group of cuckoos were as oppressive as or more so than the previous regime leading to the overthrow of Morsi and his fundamentalist cadre. Most would think that the provisional Gov prior to elections was the one the MB was warned against joining because it would not endure long. But what if the real FIRST Gov was the FIRST ELECTED GOV and the only ones who could win were the MB. In that event they would quickly become transparent and driven fromoffice one way or another and completely discredited not only in Egypt but rather throughout the Arab world. In otherwords the whole intent from the begining was just that.
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 49606517


You make a good point because I think this may have been a very good plan - last year before the whole election result announcement, which was like chaos for over 3 days til they announced it. People said the Military is making a deal with the MB. I think it was more like the Military knew what was up, and they had threatened way before there will be blood in the streets of Egypt should Morsi not win. Also in this article original post it states that Hillary threatened Tantawy to let Morsi take power.

They knew if they forced their will and let Shafiq win, the Islamists were ready, you could literally feel the fear and the static in the air. We were all holed up at home with supplies, banks and shops closed early, we were terrified. They would have unleashed their snipers and jihadis on us and the population wasn't ready to support the Military and many Revolutionaries would have seen this as an attempt for the old Regime to take over again.

It took less than a year for us to see what was happening and we were being choked by so many bad things til we exploded June 30th. They fucked up and they didn't know what hit them, they didn't think with the support their had from outside, especially the US and Israeli Mossad etc...that they would ever be back in prison. But now they are and I hope they will soon be found guilty for treason and espionage and hang.

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